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(IGN)   "Instead of 1-2 shiatty DC superhero movies per year, you're going to be treated to 3-4 buckets of diarrhea and a bottles of spillover for HBO Max annually. And we shall call it Elseworlds- er, The Multiverse" (WW1984 spoiler warning)   (ign.com) divider line
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2020-12-28 10:14:45 PM  
complete reboot set in a separate universe from the DCEU

hey that's something that Marvel's Avengers: Endgame should have thought of.
 
2020-12-28 11:05:31 PM  
Look what DC has done with Wonder Woman :|
 
2020-12-29 3:29:27 AM  
Anyone else think WW:1984 has some SERIOUS ethical issues with the way they brought back Steve? Why not just conjure him a body out of thin air? Why did he need to take over someone else's life? Like, did that guy cheat on his girlfriend by having sex with Diana? Did his family and friends worry about him while he was missing? Did he lose his job because he didn't show up for his shift? Is he in legal jeopardy for stealing that plane and all the other stuff Steve did (gatecrashing the WHITE HOUSE and beating up a bunch of Secret Service agents!) while he possessed him? What did he think happened when he got his body back?
 
2020-12-29 4:07:44 AM  
I hope the entire superhero genre crashes and burns then goes away for 10 years or so.
 
2020-12-29 4:18:46 AM  

fusillade762: Anyone else think WW:1984 has some SERIOUS ethical issues with the way they brought back Steve? Why not just conjure him a body out of thin air? Why did he need to take over someone else's life? Like, did that guy cheat on his girlfriend by having sex with Diana? Did his family and friends worry about him while he was missing? Did he lose his job because he didn't show up for his shift? Is he in legal jeopardy for stealing that plane and all the other stuff Steve did (gatecrashing the WHITE HOUSE and beating up a bunch of Secret Service agents!) while he possessed him? What did he think happened when he got his body back?


It's like Quantum Leap where Sam is just a dick.
 
2020-12-29 4:24:11 AM  

Snapper Carr: fusillade762: Anyone else think WW:1984 has some SERIOUS ethical issues with the way they brought back Steve? Why not just conjure him a body out of thin air? Why did he need to take over someone else's life? Like, did that guy cheat on his girlfriend by having sex with Diana? Did his family and friends worry about him while he was missing? Did he lose his job because he didn't show up for his shift? Is he in legal jeopardy for stealing that plane and all the other stuff Steve did (gatecrashing the WHITE HOUSE and beating up a bunch of Secret Service agents!) while he possessed him? What did he think happened when he got his body back?

It's like Quantum Leap where Sam is just a dick.


Oh boy
 
2020-12-29 4:24:51 AM  
Anybody else watch "Raised by Wolves"?  I'm almost done and I have no idea what's going on.
 
2020-12-29 4:30:38 AM  

mcnguyen: I hope the entire superhero genre crashes and burns then goes away for 10 years or so.


somewhere around 2006-2007 the genre really went to shiat. superman returns, ghost rider, fantastic four 2, x-men 3, spider-man 3.
i don't think we're there yet, but things really started to improve right after the dip.
 
2020-12-29 4:36:04 AM  
Seriously just let timm and dinn take care of the dc movies. Just don't let timm let his obsession with shipping batman and batgirl get into a live action movie
 
2020-12-29 5:05:14 AM  
"I don't think anyone else has ever attempted this," Hamada said. "But audiences are sophisticated enough to understand it. If we make good movies, they will go with it."

Bolded because DC execs are generally too stupid to actually follow through with this.

Make. Good. Films. Dumbfarks...
 
2020-12-29 5:32:34 AM  

moothemagiccow: mcnguyen: I hope the entire superhero genre crashes and burns then goes away for 10 years or so.

somewhere around 2006-2007 the genre really went to shiat. superman returns, ghost rider, fantastic four 2, x-men 3, spider-man 3.
i don't think we're there yet, but things really started to improve right after the dip.


Iron Man was released in 2008.
 
2020-12-29 5:44:19 AM  

fusillade762: Anyone else think WW:1984 has some SERIOUS ethical issues with the way they brought back Steve? Why not just conjure him a body out of thin air? Why did he need to take over someone else's life? Like, did that guy cheat on his girlfriend by having sex with Diana? Did his family and friends worry about him while he was missing? Did he lose his job because he didn't show up for his shift? Is he in legal jeopardy for stealing that plane and all the other stuff Steve did (gatecrashing the WHITE HOUSE and beating up a bunch of Secret Service agents!) while he possessed him? What did he think happened when he got his body back?


I read an article that said WW84 is a body horror movie for those reasons I think that's a bit of an extreme term, but also... when he gets his body back, does he have amnesia for the time Steve was in his body, or does he have Steve's memories and think he is going insane, what with remembering his time doing things like flying an invisible plane. That he stole. I kind of lean toward that since he put on one of Steve's weird clothing choices.

So basically, the has probably gone insane in some respects.
 
2020-12-29 6:01:53 AM  
If i didnt know better, id think that a lot of racist sexist asshats are terrified of female or non white heroes, which is why they are so pathetically desperate to make thinks like WW84 seem like failures
 
2020-12-29 6:04:32 AM  
DC has consistently been making better movies than Marvel. All of Zack Snyder's movies are way above the rest.  I think my list of top 10 supermovies would only include Spiderverse, Anman/Wasp, Ragnarok and Deadpool in the top 10.
 
2020-12-29 6:08:40 AM  

batlock666: moothemagiccow: mcnguyen: I hope the entire superhero genre crashes and burns then goes away for 10 years or so.

somewhere around 2006-2007 the genre really went to shiat. superman returns, ghost rider, fantastic four 2, x-men 3, spider-man 3.
i don't think we're there yet, but things really started to improve right after the dip.

Iron Man was released in 2008.


i don't think so, i googled it and i don't see that here
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maybe you are thinking of burn-e?
 
2020-12-29 6:41:00 AM  

serpent_sky: fusillade762: Anyone else think WW:1984 has some SERIOUS ethical issues with the way they brought back Steve? Why not just conjure him a body out of thin air? Why did he need to take over someone else's life? Like, did that guy cheat on his girlfriend by having sex with Diana? Did his family and friends worry about him while he was missing? Did he lose his job because he didn't show up for his shift? Is he in legal jeopardy for stealing that plane and all the other stuff Steve did (gatecrashing the WHITE HOUSE and beating up a bunch of Secret Service agents!) while he possessed him? What did he think happened when he got his body back?

I read an article that said WW84 is a body horror movie for those reasons I think that's a bit of an extreme term, but also... when he gets his body back, does he have amnesia for the time Steve was in his body, or does he have Steve's memories and think he is going insane, what with remembering his time doing things like flying an invisible plane. That he stole. I kind of lean toward that since he put on one of Steve's weird clothing choices.

So basically, the has probably gone insane in some respects.


He seems just fine at the end. Smiling talking about his friends busting his chops about his wardrobe.
 
2020-12-29 6:52:03 AM  

bikkurikun: DC has consistently been making better movies than Marvel. All of Zack Snyder's movies are way above the rest.  I think my list of top 10 supermovies would only include Spiderverse, Anman/Wasp, Ragnarok and Deadpool in the top 10.


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2020-12-29 7:18:09 AM  
Did DC f*ck Drew's mom or something?
 
2020-12-29 7:37:43 AM  
I think DC is going that Pittsburgh Pirates route of profit chasing. Out of 18 losing seasons in a row they were profitable i think  14 of those seasons and although they could invest more money into winning games but it would cut into profits and unless they made a deep playoff run it wouldn't be worth it.

So I am guessing DC is like we don't have the money to invest in a 20 movie story but we can do just enough to get DC fans and enough casuals to watch whatever we put out and make enough to still afford hookers and blow for the company Christmas party.

Its that sweet middle area between Sony crapping out another Fantastic 4 just  to hold onto the rights and your average Marvel movie.
 
2020-12-29 7:39:08 AM  

alechemist: Seriously just let timm and dinn take care of the dc movies. Just don't let timm let his obsession with shipping batman and batgirl get into a live action movie


Lately he's been getting bad and I can't tell if it reflects current DC crappiness or he is trying to tank so hard they think he's a good fit for directing DC live action
 
2020-12-29 7:42:52 AM  

alechemist: Seriously just let timm and dinn take care of the dc movies. Just don't let timm let his obsession with shipping batman and batgirl get into a live action movie


Isn't batgirl supposed to be batman's cousin or something?
 
2020-12-29 7:44:30 AM  
WWI was decent. WWII was godawful. And don't even get me started on any of the Superman/Justice League crap. Why can't DC make consistently good movies like Marvel?

My theory is, their heroes (save Batman - though he has god-level money) are essentially gods or aliens with godlike powers, which makes it hard to identify with them or care for them. Marvel heroes, which were created in the 60s as a counter to this very issue, are generally regular people who have had their powers thrust upon them via accident or mutation (save Thor, though he is kind of a beer-drinking bro with a roommate).

Plus, Marvel doesn't take itself too seriously. Their best movies are directed by guys like Taika Waititi, who are hilarious.
 
2020-12-29 7:45:05 AM  

Klyukva: alechemist: Seriously just let timm and dinn take care of the dc movies. Just don't let timm let his obsession with shipping batman and batgirl get into a live action movie

Isn't batgirl supposed to be batman's cousin or something?


Batwoman is Bruce Wayne's cousin.  Batgirl is Commissioner Gordon's daughter.
 
2020-12-29 7:57:31 AM  

fusillade762: Anybody else watch "Raised by Wolves"?  I'm almost done and I have no idea what's going on.


Spoilers: nothing interesting, they're just jerking off. It becomes real evident by the end that this is never going to be a thing that gives satisfying answers.
 
2020-12-29 8:11:42 AM  

FlashHarry: Why can't DC make consistently good movies like Marvel?


There are a pile of reasons, from the general view WB has of their superhero properties, to handing the reins to Zack Snyder to kick things off. You'll note that Marvel didn't start handing movies to people like Waititi until they had a very clear, very strong, and very polished "house style". They knew that they could take a director like Waititi and make him conform to the style, with enough freedom to create something that feels unique but still feels like Marvel. That's the product of years of brand management and a ruthless approach to executive meddling.

The problem with Snyder is that he is a very stylized director, and that is always going to limit his public reception. You can say a lot of things about Marvel movies, but "stylized" is not really one of them- the style is desaturated palettes, flat lighting, and wide shots for action sequences so you can see all the toys they want you to buy in the frame.

But more than that, DCEU has been shooting to have Marvel success without doing the Marvel process. Iron Man was a mid-tier hero in the comics, never super popular, but juuuuust recognizable enough to be distinctively Marvel. DC says to themselves, "Hey, if they could launch with a nobody like that, when we launch a franchise with Batman or Superman, we can hit a home run on our first try!" And then they end up blowing half their movie trying to set up all the franchise tie-ins they know are coming from this launch, and then get shocked when nobody likes what they did.

Weirdly, they're consistently doing quality on TV. From the low-budget CW stuff (which hey, is hit or miss, but is consistently profitable), to the hyper-stylized stuff like Doom Patrol, they've done exactly the same stuff Marvel did, but on the small screen. CW, especially, started with taking a mid-tier hero, built a grounded world, and then slowly made it weirder to add room for more comics wackiness. They did Crisis on Infinite Earths! It was... goofy, but honestly better than the comic!
 
2020-12-29 8:19:38 AM  

fusillade762: Anybody else watch "Raised by Wolves"?  I'm almost done and I have no idea what's going on.


no one did. big snake
 
2020-12-29 8:26:56 AM  

FlashHarry: My theory is, their heroes (save Batman - though he has god-level money) are essentially gods or aliens with godlike powers, which makes it hard to identify with them or care for them. Marvel heroes, which were created in the 60s as a counter to this very issue, are generally regular people who have had their powers thrust upon them via accident or mutation (save Thor, though he is kind of a beer-drinking bro with a roommate).


I've always thought the issue with DC movies is aside from Batman, they just really don't have very good villains. (Probably acceptable  but horrendously mis-cast: Lex Luthor)
 
2020-12-29 8:27:53 AM  
They should do an alternate-universe Superman where a young Clark Kent callously lets Pa Kent die and Superman murders his enemies.
 
2020-12-29 8:48:15 AM  
Batwoman on CW sucks. I enjoyed Gotham, but I got maybe 5 episodes into Batwoman before I gave up.  Even with as hot as Ruby Rose is.
 
2020-12-29 8:54:09 AM  
Even my wife, who endured BvS just to see the WW scene didn't like WW84.  I bailed on both for the same reason, painfully lame villains.
 
2020-12-29 9:00:48 AM  

fusillade762: Anyone else think WW:1984 has some SERIOUS ethical issues with the way they brought back Steve? Why not just conjure him a body out of thin air? Why did he need to take over someone else's life? Like, did that guy cheat on his girlfriend by having sex with Diana? Did his family and friends worry about him while he was missing? Did he lose his job because he didn't show up for his shift? Is he in legal jeopardy for stealing that plane and all the other stuff Steve did (gatecrashing the WHITE HOUSE and beating up a bunch of Secret Service agents!) while he possessed him? What did he think happened when he got his body back?


My real concern was that it was a farking horrible movie.
 
2020-12-29 9:10:44 AM  

fusillade762: Anybody else watch "Raised by Wolves"?  I'm almost done and I have no idea what's going on.


It's hot farking trash. Like about 99% of everything out there nowadays, the ending was obvious and simple and they couldn't stick it. It would have been perfectly serviceable, even if it had been predictable.

If you don't watch the last episode, you won't miss anything. Just stupid wankery that went so far off the rails it's in an adjacent galaxy.

If I see anything nowadays that has Ridley Scott's name attached to it in any way (and I think he was just a producer or something on this) I know ahead of time it's going to suck.
 
2020-12-29 9:20:03 AM  
So basically they're in their own separate universes unless they're in the same movie together. I can work with that, it dodges some of the issues the marvel movies have, even if it raises a few other questions.

/I guess Wonder Woman was holding back the powers she got in this latest movie by the time of BvS and Justice League to make things a bit more fun?
 
2020-12-29 9:20:07 AM  

t3knomanser: You'll note that Marvel didn't start handing movies to people like Waititi until they had a very clear, very strong, and very polished "house style"


In 2006, Marvel gave Ant-Man to Edgar Wright. I can't think of someone more stylized. Then they kicked the can down the road for years and fired Wright at the last minute.

shiat they gave Thor to Kenneth Branagh, does he not have a style?

//what are you even talking about
//thor 3 was boring
 
2020-12-29 9:54:47 AM  

Colour_out_of_Space: They should do an alternate-universe Superman where a young Clark Kent callously lets Pa Kent die and Superman murders his enemies.


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2020-12-29 9:56:23 AM  

moothemagiccow: Then they kicked the can down the road for years and fired Wright at the last minute.


That's sorta the point I'm making though, isn't it? They didn't like the direction Wright was taking things, kicked him out, and hammered Ant-Man into the formula. You can still see hints of the Wright touch- that final action sequence hints at the vision he had for the whole thing.

moothemagiccow: shiat they gave Thor to Kenneth Branagh, does he not have a style?


I mean, aside from the set design, does any of Branagh's sensibility actually come through in the movie? I mean, they made Anthony Hopkins spouting faux-Shakesperian dialogue boring, and it was a super-generic entry into the franchise, notable only for some of the art direction around Asgard (which within the film is basically an afterthought).

It wasn't really until Guardians that the MCU started experimenting stylistically (and even then, they've been quite careful about making sure the script beats hit the same patterns and structures).
 
2020-12-29 10:01:40 AM  

mcnguyen: I hope the entire superhero genre crashes and burns then goes away for 10 years or so.


I hope you have greater problems in life than this, and realize your complete prat-itude.

Why in the absolute and complete f*ck can't you useless asswipes stay out of threads that don't interest you instead of thread-shiatting your 'life' away?
 
2020-12-29 10:07:03 AM  

t3knomanser: moothemagiccow: Then they kicked the can down the road for years and fired Wright at the last minute.

That's sorta the point I'm making though, isn't it? They didn't like the direction Wright was taking things, kicked him out, and hammered Ant-Man into the formula. You can still see hints of the Wright touch- that final action sequence hints at the vision he had for the whole thing.

moothemagiccow: shiat they gave Thor to Kenneth Branagh, does he not have a style?

I mean, aside from the set design, does any of Branagh's sensibility actually come through in the movie? I mean, they made Anthony Hopkins spouting faux-Shakesperian dialogue boring, and it was a super-generic entry into the franchise, notable only for some of the art direction around Asgard (which within the film is basically an afterthought).

It wasn't really until Guardians that the MCU started experimenting stylistically (and even then, they've been quite careful about making sure the script beats hit the same patterns and structures).


I was gonna say it but you beat me to it. I didnt realize Branagh had a style unless boring as cardboard qualifies.
 
2020-12-29 10:07:50 AM  

t3knomanser: FlashHarry: Why can't DC make consistently good movies like Marvel?

There are a pile of reasons, from the general view WB has of their superhero properties, to handing the reins to Zack Snyder to kick things off. You'll note that Marvel didn't start handing movies to people like Waititi until they had a very clear, very strong, and very polished "house style". They knew that they could take a director like Waititi and make him conform to the style, with enough freedom to create something that feels unique but still feels like Marvel. That's the product of years of brand management and a ruthless approach to executive meddling.

The problem with Snyder is that he is a very stylized director, and that is always going to limit his public reception. You can say a lot of things about Marvel movies, but "stylized" is not really one of them- the style is desaturated palettes, flat lighting, and wide shots for action sequences so you can see all the toys they want you to buy in the frame.

But more than that, DCEU has been shooting to have Marvel success without doing the Marvel process. Iron Man was a mid-tier hero in the comics, never super popular, but juuuuust recognizable enough to be distinctively Marvel. DC says to themselves, "Hey, if they could launch with a nobody like that, when we launch a franchise with Batman or Superman, we can hit a home run on our first try!" And then they end up blowing half their movie trying to set up all the franchise tie-ins they know are coming from this launch, and then get shocked when nobody likes what they did.

Weirdly, they're consistently doing quality on TV. From the low-budget CW stuff (which hey, is hit or miss, but is consistently profitable), to the hyper-stylized stuff like Doom Patrol, they've done exactly the same stuff Marvel did, but on the small screen. CW, especially, started with taking a mid-tier hero, built a grounded world, and then slowly made it weirder to add room for more comics wackiness. They did Crisis on Infinite Earths! It was... goofy, but honestly better than the comic!


What the complete hell is up with that last sentence?  Do we need to send an ambulance for your obvious ongoing stroke?
 
2020-12-29 10:12:41 AM  

AdrienVeidt: mcnguyen: I hope the entire superhero genre crashes and burns then goes away for 10 years or so.

I hope you have greater problems in life than this, and realize your complete prat-itude.

Why in the absolute and complete f*ck can't you useless asswipes stay out of threads that don't interest you instead of thread-shiatting your 'life' away?


The headline of the article uses the terms "shiatty DC superhero movies" and "buckets of diarrhea".

I think the real question is why can't *you* stay out of these threads.
 
2020-12-29 10:15:56 AM  

AdrienVeidt: Do we need to send an ambulance for your obvious ongoing stroke?


The Crisis on Infinite Earths comic arc is trash. Boring, insider baseball that exists to just service continuity. The Crisis on Infinite Earths TV specials were stupid and goofy fun.
 
2020-12-29 10:17:25 AM  

FlashHarry: My theory is, their heroes (save Batman - though he has god-level money) are essentially gods or aliens with godlike powers, which makes it hard to identify with them or care for them. Marvel heroes, which were created in the 60s as a counter to this very issue, are generally regular people who have had their powers thrust upon them via accident or mutation (save Thor, though he is kind of a beer-drinking bro with a roommate).


Hey, that's my theory too. Easier to related to an alcoholic in a super suit, than a super suit dealing with alcoholics.

Why doesn't DC just turn their animation team loose on a few theater releases?
 
2020-12-29 10:24:16 AM  

bikkurikun: DC has consistently been making better movies than Marvel. All of Zack Snyder's movies are way above the rest.  I think my list of top 10 supermovies would only include Spiderverse, Anman/Wasp, Ragnarok and Deadpool in the top 10.


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2020-12-29 10:26:50 AM  

t3knomanser: AdrienVeidt: Do we need to send an ambulance for your obvious ongoing stroke?

The Crisis on Infinite Earths comic arc is trash. Boring, insider baseball that exists to just service continuity. The Crisis on Infinite Earths TV specials were stupid and goofy fun.


I wholeheartedly agree. Anyone who tries to reread the original Crisis now will probably be lost if they don't also read all the tie ins and know their pre Crisis history really well. It's not a bad series at all, and some of the iconic moments are iconic for a reason. But it's a product of its time.

Granted, so is this current Crisis mini series, but they did exactly what they needed to do in order to make it accessible for everyone while also having plenty of cameos and shout outs. It had live action Kevin Conroy, the television Flash meeting the movie Flash, Lucifer's cameo, and many other great moments. As a fan of DC and all these television properties, I was very entertained.
 
2020-12-29 10:30:42 AM  

AdrienVeidt: mcnguyen: I hope the entire superhero genre crashes and burns then goes away for 10 years or so.

I hope you have greater problems in life than this, and realize your complete prat-itude.

Why in the absolute and complete f*ck can't you useless asswipes stay out of threads that don't interest you instead of thread-shiatting your 'life' away?


there's nothing else to do
 
2020-12-29 10:51:16 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Colour_out_of_Space: They should do an alternate-universe Superman where a young Clark Kent callously lets Pa Kent die and Superman murders his enemies.

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2020-12-29 11:11:35 AM  

t3knomanser: FlashHarry: Why can't DC make consistently good movies like Marvel?

There are a pile of reasons, from the general view WB has of their superhero properties, to handing the reins to Zack Snyder to kick things off. You'll note that Marvel didn't start handing movies to people like Waititi until they had a very clear, very strong, and very polished "house style". They knew that they could take a director like Waititi and make him conform to the style, with enough freedom to create something that feels unique but still feels like Marvel. That's the product of years of brand management and a ruthless approach to executive meddling.

The problem with Snyder is that he is a very stylized director, and that is always going to limit his public reception. You can say a lot of things about Marvel movies, but "stylized" is not really one of them- the style is desaturated palettes, flat lighting, and wide shots for action sequences so you can see all the toys they want you to buy in the frame.

But more than that, DCEU has been shooting to have Marvel success without doing the Marvel process. Iron Man was a mid-tier hero in the comics, never super popular, but juuuuust recognizable enough to be distinctively Marvel. DC says to themselves, "Hey, if they could launch with a nobody like that, when we launch a franchise with Batman or Superman, we can hit a home run on our first try!" And then they end up blowing half their movie trying to set up all the franchise tie-ins they know are coming from this launch, and then get shocked when nobody likes what they did.

Weirdly, they're consistently doing quality on TV. From the low-budget CW stuff (which hey, is hit or miss, but is consistently profitable), to the hyper-stylized stuff like Doom Patrol, they've done exactly the same stuff Marvel did, but on the small screen. CW, especially, started with taking a mid-tier hero, built a grounded world, and then slowly made it weirder to add room for more comics wackiness. They did Crisis o ...


Thats because tv has the time to get the story told the right way. Doesnt matter if it was Static Shock, Batman Beyond, Teen Titans, or anything else, there was ALWAYS the time needed to tell the story

The movies give it like 5 seconds or just assume you know everything already
 
2020-12-29 11:27:53 AM  

AdrienVeidt: mcnguyen: I hope the entire superhero genre crashes and burns then goes away for 10 years or so.

I hope you have greater problems in life than this, and realize your complete prat-itude.

Why in the absolute and complete f*ck can't you useless asswipes stay out of threads that don't interest you instead of thread-shiatting your 'life' away?


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2020-12-29 11:35:33 AM  
The difference between DC and Marvel is night and day. Literally. DCs entire universe takes place at night, or in gloom, especially their premier set piece sequences, compared to Marvels typical brightly colored daylight smash ups. Most of Batman (the only one it makes sense for), too much of Superman/JL and even the climactic battles of both WW films and Shazam are at night. Aquaman is underwater, but the first tsunami scene is at night, and the rest of the film takes place underwater. I'm confused at to why that is, because again, with the exception of Batman, who is a nighttime vigilante, all the DC comics were garishly drawn daylight adventures. The writing matches the scenes, just their whole brand is off, everything trying to match Batman, tonally, when it needs to harken back to its roots. DC films should have Studio Ghibli do the color palette for the next slate of films, and then get a director like Peter Jackson who can work in that palette.
 
2020-12-29 11:36:29 AM  

fusillade762: Anybody else watch "Raised by Wolves"?  I'm almost done and I have no idea what's going on.


When you watch a Ridley Scott production, you either get on-point Ridley or up-his-own-ass Ridley. I'd heard this one was the latter.

/I'll still probably try to watch it
 
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