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2020-12-20 12:15:20 PM  
There are too many of these reports too fast for my liking.
Of course, everyone always talks about the shiatty restaurant they went to, and never the nice one.
 
2020-12-20 12:25:41 PM  

cretinbob: There are too many of these reports too fast for my liking.
Of course, everyone always talks about the shiatty restaurant they went to, and never the nice one.


Out of how many total doses?  Has causality been shown in these cases?

The moderate/notable adverse effect rate was only slightly higher in the vaccine groups than the placebo groups during the Phase 3 trials.
 
2020-12-20 12:27:18 PM  
Elevated heart rate and tingling? Yeah, a bit alarming when it's going on, but it's no 'oily discharge.'
 
2020-12-20 12:27:31 PM  
Their symptoms included tingling and elevated heartrates, the hospital said in a statement.

Some people pay extra for that...
 
2020-12-20 12:30:33 PM  
Tingling and elevated heartrate?  Sounds like this shiat is psychosomatic more than anything else.
 
2020-12-20 12:34:42 PM  

Dork Gently: cretinbob: There are too many of these reports too fast for my liking.
Of course, everyone always talks about the shiatty restaurant they went to, and never the nice one.

Out of how many total doses?  Has causality been shown in these cases?

The moderate/notable adverse effect rate was only slightly higher in the vaccine groups than the placebo groups during the Phase 3 trials.


And now they are having to put out emergency directives because many people are going into anaphylaxis.

You have to understand how they determine side effects. They count things whether they are related to the medication or not. That's why headache, nausea and diarrhea are side effects of everything. Someone in that group on any given day is going to have one of those for some reason.

That's also why I put the last sentence there.
Reading is hard. It's much better to argue.
 
2020-12-20 12:35:21 PM  
The medical community has a few not quite skeletons in the closet.
There is this concept called efficacy.   This means that the medicine helps more people than it hurts.   Because EVERY medicine has side effects, and someone somewhere has a bad reaction to it.

Aspirin, Tylenol, anything.
 
2020-12-20 12:36:33 PM  

Nurglitch: Elevated heart rate and tingling? Yeah, a bit alarming when it's going on, but it's no 'oily discharge.'


I see you've met my ex. She didn't wear underwear and there was many a jam stain on her jeans.
 
2020-12-20 12:37:12 PM  

cretinbob: Dork Gently: cretinbob: There are too many of these reports too fast for my liking.
Of course, everyone always talks about the shiatty restaurant they went to, and never the nice one.

Out of how many total doses?  Has causality been shown in these cases?

The moderate/notable adverse effect rate was only slightly higher in the vaccine groups than the placebo groups during the Phase 3 trials.

And now they are having to put out emergency directives because many people are going into anaphylaxis.


Cite?
 
2020-12-20 12:37:36 PM  
Yeah, that's anxiety attack.
 
2020-12-20 12:38:08 PM  
And the reaction rate is STILL much lower than expected for any vaccine...but the pro-plague crowd will still scream about this.
 
2020-12-20 12:38:31 PM  
Was the 5G chip set to vibrate? That would cause a tingling sensation.
 
2020-12-20 12:40:46 PM  
If I remember the literature released on the vaccination card, there's something on the order of 10-15% flu like symptom side effects for 24-48 hours after inoculation.  Every vaccine has its side effects and potential allergic reaction which is why there's such an abundance of caution for these.

Considering the efficacy rate of the vaccine, it's well worth considering getting the vaccine though impact on healthcare manpower has definitely been a concern.  Hopefully this area is rotating their staff so it doesn't decimate their floors.  We're going to be going through this again in twenty one days.
 
2020-12-20 12:43:41 PM  
Tingling and an elevated heart rate? So it's like drinking a red bull and vodka?
 
2020-12-20 12:43:57 PM  
Still preferable to the potential effects of actual Trump Mumps.
 
2020-12-20 12:44:57 PM  

mudesi: Tingling and elevated heartrate?  Sounds like this shiat is psychosomatic more than anything else.


That's my take. Especially with a new process, there's a degree of anxiety with at least some small percentage of the people. And they want to be sure what's happening with the vaccine.

I've found it interesting with routine blood draws and flu vaccines that they're always watching for anxiety and gauging my comfort level. I do more reassuring them than they do me. I get that. I suppose if they've had someone collapse or something during a routine blood draw--and with serious work hassles because of it--they're on the watch for it forever after.
 
2020-12-20 12:45:18 PM  
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miss this guy
 
2020-12-20 12:46:41 PM  
and in case you don't know what I'm talking about, because obviously you don't, there is a phenomenon whereby people will tell everyone about the crappy customer service they got at a place, but never tell anyone about the good customer service. That is, you only hear the complaints, not the praises.
It's not limited to customer service of course.
Get it?
 
2020-12-20 12:50:11 PM  

chuggernaught: Tingling and an elevated heart rate? So it's like drinking a red bull and vodka?


I swear the first time I had one of those about 18 years ago, I did have those symptoms, plus some others.Felt it through much of my body.  Now on the rare occasion I drink that, no such thing happens to me.

If you ever read these medical studies, there are plenty of side effects experienced by those in the placebo group.
 
2020-12-20 12:52:11 PM  

Nurglitch: Elevated heart rate and tingling? Yeah, a bit alarming when it's going on, but it's no 'oily discharge.'


As long as it leaves my anus unremarkable, I am getting the shot when it is available to me.
 
2020-12-20 12:52:42 PM  
"COVID only kills 1% of the population, it's nothing"

"0.15% of people who were vaccinated had some minor adverse reactions, better stop the whole thing"
 
2020-12-20 12:53:29 PM  

cretinbob: and in case you don't know what I'm talking about, because obviously you don't


Are you really getting a kick out of some of these replies?
 
2020-12-20 12:56:06 PM  

7th Son of a 7th Son: Nurglitch: Elevated heart rate and tingling? Yeah, a bit alarming when it's going on, but it's no 'oily discharge.'

I see you've met my ex. She didn't wear underwear and there was many a jam stain on her jeans.


I didn't need to eat anyway
 
2020-12-20 12:56:13 PM  
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2020-12-20 12:59:13 PM  

neeNHA: cretinbob: Dork Gently: cretinbob: There are too many of these reports too fast for my liking.
Of course, everyone always talks about the shiatty restaurant they went to, and never the nice one.

Out of how many total doses?  Has causality been shown in these cases?

The moderate/notable adverse effect rate was only slightly higher in the vaccine groups than the placebo groups during the Phase 3 trials.

And now they are having to put out emergency directives because many people are going into anaphylaxis.

Cite?


here

and here

I'm sorry reality has spoiled your day.

Yeah, maybe not many, but it's too common a thing. Remember, they haven't administered 2 million doses. I'd be surprised if they have distributed 50,000 doses.
Anyone have an idea where to find that?
It's time someone Google something for me.

get the vaccine if it's offered to you
wear a mask
stop being so goddamned touchy
 
2020-12-20 1:00:24 PM  

Rent Party: Nurglitch: Elevated heart rate and tingling? Yeah, a bit alarming when it's going on, but it's no 'oily discharge.'

As long as it leaves my anus unremarkable, I am getting the shot when it is available to me.


1. That's going to hurt
2. Unlike my tuberculosis vaccination scar, nobody is going to notice you got the covid vaccination.
3. ???
Profit!
 
2020-12-20 1:00:49 PM  

SuburbanCowboy: "COVID only kills 1% of the population, it's nothing"

"0.15% of people who were vaccinated had some minor adverse reactions, better stop the whole thing"


anaphylaxis can kill you, quickly
 
2020-12-20 1:02:23 PM  

cretinbob: There are too many of these reports too fast for my liking.
Of course, everyone always talks about the shiatty restaurant they went to, and never the nice one.


Medical folks I pay attention to indicate this has to do with peoples' reactions to shots, not THIS shot.

A video of a nurse about 5 minutes after her vaccination getting light headed is not a very uncommon reaction to any needle.
 
2020-12-20 1:03:39 PM  

Summoner101: If I remember the literature released on the vaccination card, there's something on the order of 10-15% flu like symptom side effects for 24-48 hours after inoculation.  Every vaccine has its side effects and potential allergic reaction which is why there's such an abundance of caution for these.

Considering the efficacy rate of the vaccine, it's well worth considering getting the vaccine though impact on healthcare manpower has definitely been a concern.  Hopefully this area is rotating their staff so it doesn't decimate their floors.  We're going to be going through this again in twenty one days.


Can't wait to see what the second fuller dose does to 'em... I'll be hiding in my basement opting out of the vaccine
 
2020-12-20 1:04:40 PM  

mudesi: Tingling and elevated heartrate?  Sounds like this shiat is psychosomatic more than anything else.


Exactly. That's an anxiety attack.
 
2020-12-20 1:09:43 PM  

weddingsinger: cretinbob: There are too many of these reports too fast for my liking.
Of course, everyone always talks about the shiatty restaurant they went to, and never the nice one.

Medical folks I pay attention to indicate this has to do with peoples' reactions to shots, not THIS shot.

A video of a nurse about 5 minutes after her vaccination getting light headed is not a very uncommon reaction to any needle.


Go read what I posted.
Sorry, I'm not putting up with uninformed opinions today.
 
2020-12-20 1:10:27 PM  

mudesi: Tingling and elevated heartrate?  Sounds like this shiat is psychosomatic more than anything else.

 
2020-12-20 1:11:29 PM  
or people trying to twist my words
 
2020-12-20 1:20:20 PM  
So, let's get this straight, plague rats.
A disease that kills 3% of those who get it is "just a cold", or a "Democrat hoax".
But a jab that gives .15% of the people who get it mild side effects is something to worry about.
You are very intelligent.
 
2020-12-20 1:26:39 PM  

7th Son of a 7th Son: Nurglitch: Elevated heart rate and tingling? Yeah, a bit alarming when it's going on, but it's no 'oily discharge.'

I see you've met my ex. She didn't wear underwear and there was many a jam stain on her jeans.


She single?  Asking for a friend..
 
2020-12-20 1:27:40 PM  

cretinbob: neeNHA: cretinbob: Dork Gently: cretinbob: There are too many of these reports too fast for my liking.
Of course, everyone always talks about the shiatty restaurant they went to, and never the nice one.

Out of how many total doses?  Has causality been shown in these cases?

The moderate/notable adverse effect rate was only slightly higher in the vaccine groups than the placebo groups during the Phase 3 trials.

And now they are having to put out emergency directives because many people are going into anaphylaxis.

Cite?

here

and here

I'm sorry reality has spoiled your day.

Yeah, maybe not many, but it's too common a thing. Remember, they haven't administered 2 million doses. I'd be surprised if they have distributed 50,000 doses.
Anyone have an idea where to find that?
It's time someone Google something for me.

get the vaccine if it's offered to you
wear a mask
stop being so goddamned touchy


Florida. 32K administered. https://www.tampabay.co​m/news/health/2​020/12/19/florida-has-vaccinated-32707​-people-for-the-coronavirus/
 
2020-12-20 1:27:42 PM  
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Would Subby like to rephrase?
 
2020-12-20 1:32:37 PM  
Someone left the love eggs in and didn't want to admit it.
 
2020-12-20 1:34:23 PM  
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2020-12-20 1:34:58 PM  

cretinbob: weddingsinger: cretinbob: There are too many of these reports too fast for my liking.
Of course, everyone always talks about the shiatty restaurant they went to, and never the nice one.

Medical folks I pay attention to indicate this has to do with peoples' reactions to shots, not THIS shot.

A video of a nurse about 5 minutes after her vaccination getting light headed is not a very uncommon reaction to any needle.

Go read what I posted.
Sorry, I'm not putting up with uninformed opinions today.


You're the asshole here Cretin. You just told him to go read your subjective opinion in authority voice. Stop. Do better.
 
2020-12-20 1:36:34 PM  

Eightballjacket: chuggernaught: Tingling and an elevated heart rate? So it's like drinking a red bull and vodka?

I swear the first time I had one of those about 18 years ago, I did have those symptoms, plus some others.Felt it through much of my body.  Now on the rare occasion I drink that, no such thing happens to me.

If you ever read these medical studies, there are plenty of side effects experienced by those in the placebo group.


yeah but have you ever researched placebo surgeries? now that shiat is mind blowing
 
2020-12-20 1:39:07 PM  

cretinbob: And now they are having to put out emergency directives because many people are going into anaphylaxis.


By 'many' you mean 'six'* and by 'anaphylaxis' you mean 'experiencing some symptoms of anaphylactoid reaction' and by 'emergency directive' you mean 'routine advice that also applies to almost all vaccines, all surgery, and many common drugs'.

*0.0022% of the vaccines given in the US
 
2020-12-20 1:44:08 PM  
Just a reminder that FDA Emergency Use exception is not the same thing as FDA approval.

The thing to understand isn't "OMG, there are adverse reactions!" - we have that even with FDA-approved vaccines that we've used for decades.

The thing to understand is that we don't yet know the width or depth of these adverse reactions - that info hasn't yet been ascertained, and is usually included as part of the FDA approval process these days.

For all we know, Pfizer has created a stunning vaccine with few, minor adverse reactions. There's also the possibility that we're going to see some horrible surprises. That's the risk we ran in giving Pfizer & Moderna the emergency use exclusions. We're just going to have to wait & see.
 
2020-12-20 1:48:47 PM  

cretinbob: There are too many of these reports too fast for my liking.
Of course, everyone always talks about the shiatty restaurant they went to, and never the nice one.


On the one hand, never-before-deployed-on-this-scale medical technology, rushed into service.  There's going to be weird stuff not foreseen by the 30,000 test cases.  Anything with less than a tenth of a percent frequency or so probably won't be seen enough to be recognized until now.

On the other hand, everybody's permently freaked the hell out from being scared for 11 months.  Humans simply can't maintain anxiety that long without psychological damage.  We're going to be jumping at shadows.

I see no reason why these two effects should be exclusive.
 
2020-12-20 1:50:12 PM  

cretinbob: weddingsinger: cretinbob: There are too many of these reports too fast for my liking.
Of course, everyone always talks about the shiatty restaurant they went to, and never the nice one.

Medical folks I pay attention to indicate this has to do with peoples' reactions to shots, not THIS shot.

A video of a nurse about 5 minutes after her vaccination getting light headed is not a very uncommon reaction to any needle.

Go read what I posted.
Sorry, I'm not putting up with uninformed opinions today.


The opposite of"uninformed" is not "read what a random person write in an internet forum".

Unless that person calls themselves Q.

/Joking about the last part
 
2020-12-20 1:50:28 PM  

cretinbob: There are too many of these reports too fast for my liking.
Of course, everyone always talks about the shiatty restaurant they went to, and never the nice one


I'll agree, cretinbob. and i think they are negative and counter productive; they're just increased the likeliness for more of the same.

IMHO many folks are going to be super sensitive when getting these needles. it will be a percentage of the folks and my guess folks in hospitals, knowing they're first and after having seen so much and being overworked like hell, there's a chance for increased squeamish.

Brooklyn Pizza in Powell Ohio makes the best pie I've found in the state.
 
2020-12-20 1:54:05 PM  
FAKE! LIES! COVERUP!
Here's the "adverse reactions" Obama, Biden, China and the Main Stream MSM Media are trying to keep us from seeing!

WAKE UP SHEEPLE! STUDY IT OUT!

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2020-12-20 1:54:42 PM  

cretinbob: and in case you don't know what I'm talking about, because obviously you don't, there is a phenomenon whereby people will tell everyone about the crappy customer service they got at a place, but never tell anyone about the good customer service. That is, you only hear the complaints, not the praises.
It's not limited to customer service of course.
Get it?


Good customer service is like winning $1

Bad customer service is like losing $200

In most transactions, there is very little anyone could reasonably do to make it a good experience. I want to pay the expected price, for the expected things, and have them perform as expected.

Maybe the cashier at McDonald's is a bit faster than usual, or is friendly, or gives me extra napkins... Cool. But really, most of us hardly care.

But if they screw up my order, or charge my credit card twice or have me wait 25 minutes for the food, after I've already paid... Those are things that would cause actual problems for me.
 
2020-12-20 1:55:10 PM  
This is WAR Peacock!!!!

But look what happened to the cook!
 
2020-12-20 2:05:27 PM  
I wish I could take some of these idiot plague rats to work with me for a day. Watch someone dying of Covid, look at the pain and terror in their eyes as they gasp for breath. Watch the exhausted nurses and overwhelmed doctors. Watch a ventilator insertion. The side effects won't seem so bad after that.
 
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