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2020-12-19 1:49:20 AM  
fark him. fark qanon. fark you.

Are we done here?
 
2020-12-19 2:10:52 AM  
When I read the part about the dead guy with the word "Illuminati" branded on his chest in "Angels and Demons" my eyes nearly rolled out of my skull.
 
2020-12-19 6:59:43 AM  
That is like blaming a crappy Mel Gibson/Julia Roberts movie or

Mr. X

"Of Course it's so simple, wait no it's not, it's needlessly complicated..."
 
2020-12-19 7:02:12 AM  
 No, his parents were always kook-job racists.
 
2020-12-19 7:07:39 AM  

fusillade762: When I read the part about the dead guy with the word "Illuminati" branded on his chest in "Angels and Demons" my eyes nearly rolled out of my skull.


Wait, you managed a SECOND Dan Brown crapfest after The DaVinci Code?

One of my older brothers was already a conspiracy nutjob when that shiat hit the bestseller list and our mother's house - already swollen with his back-of-the-shiatty-magazine send-me-$1-and-I'll-send-you-my-insane​-manifesto - overnight became a farking bursting library of crazy.

Not least because of him I've always had a taste for conspiracy in order to mock it, but christ, DB's writing is so bad I canNOT plow through a single one.
 
2020-12-19 7:09:47 AM  
So, you've read this one book and it impressed you so much, that you think it is a template for everything that happens in the world.

Well, at least it isn't "Atlas Shrugged".
 
2020-12-19 7:12:32 AM  

Sorelian's Ghost: That is like blaming a crappy Mel Gibson/Julia Roberts movie or

Mr. X

"Of Course it's so simple, wait no it's not, it's needlessly complicated..."


Sheesh. Tell me about it.
 
2020-12-19 7:15:33 AM  

gottagopee: fusillade762: When I read the part about the dead guy with the word "Illuminati" branded on his chest in "Angels and Demons" my eyes nearly rolled out of my skull.

Wait, you managed a SECOND Dan Brown crapfest after The DaVinci Code?

One of my older brothers was already a conspiracy nutjob when that shiat hit the bestseller list and our mother's house - already swollen with his back-of-the-shiatty-magazine send-me-$1-and-I'll-send-you-my-insane​-manifesto - overnight became a farking bursting library of crazy.

Not least because of him I've always had a taste for conspiracy in order to mock it, but christ, DB's writing is so bad I canNOT plow through a single one.


It's shiatty James Bond self-insert fan fiction.

That said, if the Q nutters are buying into it, I guess they deserve each other.
 
2020-12-19 7:16:37 AM  
 
2020-12-19 7:16:44 AM  
I blame James Patterson
 
2020-12-19 7:19:10 AM  
OK, this is the thread to talk about something. In the second book of The Demon Princes, by Jack Vance, The Killing Machine, the bad guy is the leader of a group of people who are immortal disguise artists in control of a lost colony. Under their disguises, they are lipless, earless pale monster people. They got this way by pursuing immortality. Their method? Harvesting the pineal glands of children to make a waxy substance that serves as a macabre elixir of youth. The suspicion has been growing in me that Q ripped this off for his conspiracy.
 
2020-12-19 7:19:28 AM  
I literally fell asleep trying to watch the Tom Hanks movie based on this book.  Had it on the DVR and I just couldn't get through it.  Never finished watching it and don't even remember the first 45 minutes to an hour or so that I did watch, it was so godawful and boring.  Never bothered to read the book.
 
2020-12-19 7:20:58 AM  
Maybe americans should read even less books.
 
2020-12-19 7:22:15 AM  
When I was younger and stupider, I read a bunch of Dan Brown books (I realized all his books were the same book, with different titles and the names of the characters changed)... I didn't fall for any Qanon nonsense.

Hear me out... if you believe The DaVinci Code is real, and you believe in Qanon, maybe you're just gullible.
 
2020-12-19 7:24:50 AM  

lolmao500: Maybe americans should read even less books.


*fewer

And yeah, if they read less Bible and more Carl Sagan, they'd be better people.
 
2020-12-19 7:25:19 AM  

lolmao500: Maybe americans should read even less books.


Or have fewer grammar
 
2020-12-19 7:27:13 AM  

gottagopee: lolmao500: Maybe americans should read even less books.

Or have fewer grammar


For every grammar you don't have, I'm going to have 3!
 
2020-12-19 7:30:51 AM  
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2020-12-19 7:30:52 AM  

Needlessly Complicated: gottagopee: lolmao500: Maybe americans should read even less books.

Or have fewer grammar

For every grammar you don't have, I'm going to have 3!


Username doing a LOT of overtime in this thread


... can I have some of whatever is keeping you going? Coffee's not going to cut it this last infarkinsane retail sale week.
 
2020-12-19 7:31:09 AM  

aagrajag: lolmao500: Maybe americans should read even less books.

*fewer

And yeah, if they read less Bible and more Carl Sagan, they'd be better people.


Less Dan Brown, more Terry Pratchett.
 
2020-12-19 7:31:48 AM  
Our minds and bodies are built to deal with crises. Having few real dangers these days seems to make people prone to devising ways to panic. See your cat periodically running around at breakneck speed? Same thing.
 
2020-12-19 7:34:26 AM  

mofa: Our minds and bodies are built to deal with crises. Having few real dangers these days seems to make people prone to devising ways to panic. See your cat periodically running around at breakneck speed? Same thing.


My cat bursts out of the litterbox at incredible speed and I am assured this is because of a pleasurable vagal response. Perhaps a good poop would cure a whole lot of mental problems.

FIBER FOR ALL!!
 
2020-12-19 7:34:39 AM  

40 Dollars In A Checking Account: OK, this is the thread to talk about something. In the second book of The Demon Princes, by Jack Vance, The Killing Machine, the bad guy is the leader of a group of people who are immortal disguise artists in control of a lost colony. Under their disguises, they are lipless, earless pale monster people. They got this way by pursuing immortality. Their method? Harvesting the pineal glands of children to make a waxy substance that serves as a macabre elixir of youth. The suspicion has been growing in me that Q ripped this off for his conspiracy.


That explains Stephen Miller.

Maybe there is something to this.
 
2020-12-19 7:35:21 AM  

Needlessly Complicated: gottagopee: lolmao500: Maybe americans should read even less books.

Or have fewer grammar

For every grammar you don't have, I'm going to have 3!


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2020-12-19 7:38:00 AM  

aagrajag: lolmao500: Maybe americans should read even less books.

*fewer

And yeah, if they read less Bible and more Carl Sagan, they'd be better people.


alternative now seems to be a situation where we just have fewer people altogether.
 
2020-12-19 7:41:55 AM  
I would point to ZEITGEIST for breaking some semi-intelligent, "Independent thinkers'" minds and setting up much of the current Know-It-All-ism prevalent in the QAnon Bizarro World.
 
2020-12-19 7:42:32 AM  
Hack Author is the name of my Pol Pot tribute band
 
2020-12-19 7:43:39 AM  
I don't think Dan Brown was alone in this, I think it's more a susceptibility of some people. The X-Files was huge in the 90s and had a conspiratorial plotline running through it, tapping into a wider culture of belief in streetlights aliens. That seemed to die down with the advent of mobile phones and greater access to better cameras.

Oliver Stone's JFK probably also had a hand in priming the pump. And the 9-11 truther phenomenon kept the idea of government conspiracy bubbling away. Charles MacKay's Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds charts earlier instances of mass credulity.

Conspiratorial stuff can be damn entertaining. I'm getting back into the Cthulhu mythos myself because that fictional world of clandestine societies, secret histories and hidden monsters is really fun, but I don't think believers in Q-anon are having any fun.

The difference is that people today are fed this stuff by the algorithm on their social media feeds, and there is political advantage in promulgating bullshiat because it shields Trump from criticism. People may latch on to it because they can't see through the BS, or it validates their political position because otherwise supporting Trump is really problematic, or they gain a sense of self esteem in the belief that they are smarter than the rest of us.
 
2020-12-19 7:43:42 AM  
Ben Shapiro?
 
2020-12-19 7:51:29 AM  
A lot of his book was inspired by Holy Blood Holy Grail, but he made it easy to read and digestible. Holy Blood Holy Grail isn't something the average soccer mom is going to read.

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/highly recommended by non-Q guy and casual conspiracy theorist Ecobuckeye
//They used to be fun exercises in creativity
///They're not fun anymore
 
2020-12-19 7:52:50 AM  

mofa: Our minds and bodies are built to deal with crises. Having few real dangers these days seems to make people prone to devising ways to panic. See your cat periodically running around at breakneck speed? Same thing.


It's worse.

For our early human ancestors if you saw a bush moving and immediately panicked and ran there was no negative risk to your survival.

If instead they always decided "it's just the wind, not a tiger," they had much lower chances of surviving long enough to pass on that trait.
 
2020-12-19 7:57:40 AM  

mofa: Our minds and bodies are built to deal with crises. Having few real dangers these days seems to make people prone to devising ways to panic. See your cat periodically running around at breakneck speed? Same thing.


One doesn't desire the USA to face a real crisis, though.
 
2020-12-19 8:02:01 AM  

Ecobuckeye: A lot of his book was inspired by Holy Blood Holy Grail, but he made it easy to read and digestible. Holy Blood Holy Grail isn't something the average soccer mom is going to read.

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/highly recommended by non-Q guy and casual conspiracy theorist Ecobuckeye
//They used to be fun exercises in creativity
///They're not fun anymore


I read that book the year it was published and immediately thought to myself "This is the conspiracy theory to end them all. Someone's gonna write a novel based on this, and they're gonna make a mint. Maybe I should give it a try?"

Of course, I never did, and still kick myself whenever Dan Brown's name comes up.
 
2020-12-19 8:06:14 AM  
I thought the adrenechrome (sp?) stuff came from 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas'.
 
2020-12-19 8:15:12 AM  
1) Umberto Eco's Foucault's Pendulum (1988) is a good story about several people who make up a conspiracy theory, only for it to spiral out of their control.
2) The QAnon idee fixe that John Kennedy Jr. faked his death and will return to strike down child traffickers grafts Messiah and Resurrection tropes onto this mess. (And I am having a hard time seeing the Kennedy family as the Holy Trinity in this scenario, but....) Is QAnon going to be the next $C!3n+0|06y?
 
2020-12-19 8:16:10 AM  

pup.socket: So, you've read this one book and it impressed you so much, that you think it is a template for everything that happens in the world.

Well, at least it isn't "Atlas Shrugged".


Well Plato's Republic is too hard I guess.
 
2020-12-19 8:16:47 AM  
So we aren't living chapter 5 of the Illunatus! Trilogy?
 
2020-12-19 8:19:36 AM  

groppet: pup.socket: So, you've read this one book and it impressed you so much, that you think it is a template for everything that happens in the world.

Well, at least it isn't "Atlas Shrugged".

Well Plato's Republic is too hard I guess.


Although the allegory of the cave could have been tailor-made for describing QAnon and Trumpism (but I repeat myself...)
 
2020-12-19 8:22:10 AM  

Smoking GNU: aagrajag: lolmao500: Maybe americans should read even less books.

*fewer

And yeah, if they read less Bible and more Carl Sagan, they'd be better people.

Less Dan Brown, more Terry Pratchett.


A thousand times this

/ Pratchett's satires had a huge affect on the development of personal philosophies
// I cannot recommend them enough
 
2020-12-19 8:23:05 AM  

ReluctantLondon: Smoking GNU: aagrajag: lolmao500: Maybe americans should read even less books.

*fewer

And yeah, if they read less Bible and more Carl Sagan, they'd be better people.

Less Dan Brown, more Terry Pratchett.

A thousand times this

/ Pratchett's satires had a huge affect on the development of personal philosophies
// I cannot recommend them enough


*of my personal

/ He had, however, no affect on my ability to type
 
2020-12-19 8:23:13 AM  
I realized, reading that, that Ready Player One is basically The Da Vinci Code, but with the 80s instead of Christianity.

Though at least RPO frames it all as a game in the first place, which is probably less destructive.
 
2020-12-19 8:26:12 AM  
Honestly, whenever threads like this come up, I fear I'm channeling River's schoolteacher in Serenity - "we're not training them what to think, we're training them how to" - but sometimes, just sometimes, it's true
 
2020-12-19 8:29:48 AM  

gottagopee: Not least because of him I've always had a taste for conspiracy in order to mock it, but christ, DB's writing is so bad I canNOT plow through a single one.


The trick is to skip the elf poetry.
 
2020-12-19 8:40:21 AM  

j.lunatic: 1) Umberto Eco's Foucault's Pendulum (1988) is a good story about several people who make up a conspiracy theory, only for it to spiral out of their control.
2) The QAnon idee fixe that John Kennedy Jr. faked his death and will return to strike down child traffickers grafts Messiah and Resurrection tropes onto this mess. (And I am having a hard time seeing the Kennedy family as the Holy Trinity in this scenario, but....) Is QAnon going to be the next $C!3n+0|06y?


the JFKJr bit amazed me the most the first I heard it. No one bothered to think how many people would need to be involved in hiding a KENNEDY, for 20some years, in this day of paparazzi, especially one that everyone thought had drowned.
 
2020-12-19 8:40:22 AM  
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2020-12-19 8:50:28 AM  

fusillade762: When I read the part about the dead guy with the word "Illuminati" branded on his chest in "Angels and Demons" my eyes nearly rolled out of my skull.


I haven't read that one, but I had a similar moment with Da Vinci Code when the most famous mathematician in the world was guarding the most impactful and important secret in the world with an access code that was (the first 10 digits of) just about the most famous sequence of numbers in the history of math.
 
2020-12-19 8:51:11 AM  

gottagopee: fusillade762: When I read the part about the dead guy with the word "Illuminati" branded on his chest in "Angels and Demons" my eyes nearly rolled out of my skull.

Wait, you managed a SECOND Dan Brown crapfest after The DaVinci Code?

One of my older brothers was already a conspiracy nutjob when that shiat hit the bestseller list and our mother's house - already swollen with his back-of-the-shiatty-magazine send-me-$1-and-I'll-send-you-my-insane​-manifesto - overnight became a farking bursting library of crazy.

Not least because of him I've always had a taste for conspiracy in order to mock it, but christ, DB's writing is so bad I canNOT plow through a single one.



He's the John Grisham of crazy conspiracy novels.

Wrote an interesting one that didn't go very far, then his second one made him famous.  And then he just churned out a ton of crap and raked in the $$.
 
2020-12-19 8:55:48 AM  

SloppyFrenchKisser: [crikey.com.au image 740x445]


That's a great poster, makes as much sense as you read it left-to-right as it does up-down-right-left.
 
2020-12-19 8:57:36 AM  
I think it was the constant Time Life Mysteries of the Unknown commercials. Read the book.
 
2020-12-19 8:59:12 AM  

schubie: I think it was the constant Time Life Mysteries of the Unknown commercials. Read the book.


That or the frustration over having an incomplete Civil War chess set.
 
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