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2020-12-15 5:42:10 AM  
There is a twist here and the twist is that they see the show as ideal family-friendly programming for Disney+.  My source tells me they're planning to target it more at a PG-adventure, family audience and less at the sort of PG-13 dynamic the original Joss Whedon show went for.


This sounds like the special hell
 
2020-12-15 5:50:08 AM  
Well that sounds all kinds of disturbing.

Like.. yeah, we wanted Firefly back.. but after a couple of decades, it'll be like getting your cat back from the Pet Cemetery.
 
2020-12-15 6:14:08 AM  
Maybe make a few prequel sequences and cover the story of Shepherd Derrial Book.
 
2020-12-15 6:42:10 AM  
fark Disney.

With that out of the way, it's a big solar system, there's a lot of possible stuff going on that'd be interesting that doesn't need to have much to do with the old series.

Of course at this point it would start to look like a low rent Expanse.
 
2020-12-15 6:54:24 AM  
maybe they'll show up on this week's Mandolorian: "The Space Hooker"
 
2020-12-15 9:12:02 AM  
It will be devoid of it's original charm. You can't engineer lightning in a bottle.

/I'll still watch it
 
2020-12-15 9:13:46 AM  

yohohogreengiant: fark Disney.

With that out of the way, it's a big solar system, there's a lot of possible stuff going on that'd be interesting that doesn't need to have much to do with the old series.

Of course at this point it would start to look like a low rent Expanse.


RTFA:

My source tells me that Disney is in early development on a Firefly reboot.  The new show would start the story of Captain Mal Reynolds and his crew aboard the Serenity over from scratch, with an aim to make this a long-running series on Disney+.

It's a *REBOOT*.

And to make it more "family friendly" they're going to have to basically write Inara out of the script, and there will be less violence, and they will probably have to change how the crew of Serenity operates:  No more, or far less, thieving and illegal smuggling.

Less, or no, sexual tension between Simon and Kaylee.

Less, or no, sexual tension between Mal and whoever they bring in to replace Inara.

Fewer, or no, gun fights.

Almost certainly no people killed.

And of course, they'll almost certainly change the look of everything, maybe even the backstory about the War for Independence.
 
2020-12-15 9:17:28 AM  

Mr Tarantula: It will be devoid of it's original charm. You can't engineer lightning in a bottle.

/I'll still watch it


Can You Really Catch Lightning In a Bottle?
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2020-12-15 9:27:27 AM  
I have mixed feelings for a Disney reboot. Will JW be involved? Maybe I should read the article
 
2020-12-15 9:31:07 AM  
No thank you. It's over. Enjoy it for what it was, but its time has past.
 
2020-12-15 9:33:09 AM  
Jayne Cobb will become a Shepard before this show happens.  Anybody remember the Animal House TV show they tried to make after the movie?
 
2020-12-15 9:35:20 AM  

dittybopper: yohohogreengiant: fark Disney.

...

Fewer, or no, gun fights.

Almost certainly no people killed.

And of course, they'll almost certainly change the look of everything, maybe even the backstory about the War for Independence.


It will probably be similar in rating to Mandalorian. There are still people who die and gun fights.  They will probably scrap the prostitution though.  Just pray to god there isn't come cute creature they have to transport...
 
2020-12-15 9:36:08 AM  

Any Pie Left: Jayne Cobb will become a Shepard before this show happens


Don't give them any ideas
 
2020-12-15 9:37:53 AM  
You would have thought Disney would have learned their lesson with Solo. No one's going to be able to replace the performance of the old crew in the fans' eyes.

They should have continued with the storyline from Serenity, and had a new cast dealing with the fallout from the transmission sent. It would have allowed for the occasional cameo from the Serenity crew.

/Sick to death of reboots and prequels. Actually continue the storyline for once
 
2020-12-15 9:42:34 AM  
May you get what you wish for.
 
2020-12-15 9:48:34 AM  
Also, Baldwin is a giant piece of shiat in real life. Don't give him any more airtime/money.

Start the first episode with this: "Note: Jayne Cobbdied on the way back to his home planet."
 
2020-12-15 9:50:11 AM  
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2020-12-15 9:52:18 AM  

NuclearPenguins: Also, Baldwin is a giant piece of shiat in real life. Don't give him any more airtime/money.

Start the first episode with this: "Note: Jayne Cobbdied on the way back to his home planet."


He didn't have to act much.

Say they put what was left of him in his momma's hat?

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2020-12-15 9:57:27 AM  

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You're off by a couple of hours.

There were 14 filmed episodes, and one of them (the first episode, but not the first aired) was 2 hours.  So 15 hours of bliss.
 
2020-12-15 9:58:22 AM  

NuclearPenguins: Also, Baldwin is a giant piece of shiat in real life. Don't give him any more airtime/money.

Start the first episode with this: "Note: Jayne Cobbdied on the way back to his home planet."


Politics tab is that way  ---------->

Ironically, farthest tab to the right.  Can't miss it.  It's full of people just like you.
 
2020-12-15 10:01:58 AM  

dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: Also, Baldwin is a giant piece of shiat in real life. Don't give him any more airtime/money.

Start the first episode with this: "Note: Jayne Cobbdied on the way back to his home planet."

Politics tab is that way  ---------->

Ironically, farthest tab to the right.  Can't miss it.  It's full of people just like you.


I've decided not to engage with you on such topics any longer. Keeps my blood pressure down and less time spent in Fark's time-out box. We shall stick to discussions of Japanese monster films and Tremors.
 
2020-12-15 10:16:36 AM  

NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: Also, Baldwin is a giant piece of shiat in real life. Don't give him any more airtime/money.

Start the first episode with this: "Note: Jayne Cobbdied on the way back to his home planet."

Politics tab is that way  ---------->

Ironically, farthest tab to the right.  Can't miss it.  It's full of people just like you.

I've decided not to engage with you on such topics any longer. Keeps my blood pressure down and less time spent in Fark's time-out box. We shall stick to discussions of Japanese monster films and Tremors.


Well, I'm subby, and you decided to bring politics into this thread.  So you do you.
 
2020-12-15 10:18:37 AM  
I know I'm in the extreme minority here but I never really got he appeal of Firefly.  Bought the DVD set and never finished it.  Never did see the movie.  There were parts I liked, but overall it just didn't work for me.  I'd be willing to give the reboot a try, though. Unless it's animated.
 
2020-12-15 10:19:46 AM  
Saying that something is in "early development" by the company that owns the rights to it means almost nothing aside from "they haven't sold it off yet." The Willow sequel has been in "early development" since the Willow came out. Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian was in "early development" for about thirty years before they gave up on it.
 
2020-12-15 10:20:11 AM  

Great_Milenko: I know I'm in the extreme minority here but I never really got he appeal of Firefly.  Bought the DVD set and never finished it.  Never did see the movie.  There were parts I liked, but overall it just didn't work for me.  I'd be willing to give the reboot a try, though. Unless it's animated.


I wish I had never seen the movie. I pretend it doesn't exist.
 
2020-12-15 10:25:09 AM  

Great_Milenko: I know I'm in the extreme minority here but I never really got he appeal of Firefly.  Bought the DVD set and never finished it.  Never did see the movie.  There were parts I liked, but overall it just didn't work for me.  I'd be willing to give the reboot a try, though. Unless it's animated.


I won't hold it against you, but I think the reason why it was popular among a certain subset of the population is that it was largely different, in many ways like the original Star Wars was.

It was gritty.  The "good guys" weren't necessarily actually good.  There was some moral ambiguity.  And the fight against authority is always a popular thing.

But yeah, I can see where it wouldn't jell for some folks.   It kind of took me a while to warm up to it.
 
2020-12-15 10:26:08 AM  
There are no space cows
 
2020-12-15 10:34:04 AM  

Bslim: There is a twist here and the twist is that they see the show as ideal family-friendly programming for Disney+.  My source tells me they're planning to target it more at a PG-adventure, family audience and less at the sort of PG-13 dynamic the original Joss Whedon show went for.


This sounds like the special hell


Hey, the "Duck Tales" characters need a new platform!
 
2020-12-15 10:35:29 AM  
So not to get worry too much, but.... is this site legit?

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Pretty much all of the articles are speculation based on random Tweets then instantly walking back the headline.

I've believe it when I see it.

/That said, I'm a bit worried about Lego Firefly: The Series in the future...
 
2020-12-15 11:04:02 AM  

csi_yellowknife: So not to get worry too much, but.... is this site legit?

[Fark user image image 369x837]

Pretty much all of the articles are speculation based on random Tweets then instantly walking back the headline.

I've believe it when I see it.

/That said, I'm a bit worried about Lego Firefly: The Series in the future...


None of these sites are legit. They're shiatty clickbait sites scraping twitter for scraps while occasionally throwing a paragraph of two in for good measure.
 
2020-12-15 11:14:50 AM  
Firefly is 96% political from the get go.
 
2020-12-15 11:18:43 AM  
As an Arrested Development fan, I feel for you Firefly people getting what you wished for.
 
2020-12-15 11:19:37 AM  
Why spend the energy to come up with original ideas when you can easily ruin someone else's?
 
2020-12-15 11:26:34 AM  
One of the main fears I have of someone rebooting one of the best space shows ever..
Babylon 5.
Ya, it would be awesome to see the fleet battles in modern cgi however you KNOW they're going to change shiat all around for *reasons* and target various special interest groups to try and draw them in when all they had to do it literally recast with GOOD actors and NOT TOUCH THE ALREADY CREATED SCRIPTS ans when they wanted something completely new they could expand on various places, ie. Dilgar War arch, Mimbari War Arch (not as a stand alone movie) the first Shadow/Mimbari war.
Lorian and his races views of the Universe and what it was like literally finding the shadows and others as infant races.
 
2020-12-15 11:30:21 AM  
I can't wait to see the princess.
 
2020-12-15 11:47:00 AM  
I don't have Disney+ and will continue not to have Disney+ so this will never exist for me.
 
2020-12-15 11:48:51 AM  

NuclearPenguins: Great_Milenko: I know I'm in the extreme minority here but I never really got he appeal of Firefly.  Bought the DVD set and never finished it.  Never did see the movie.  There were parts I liked, but overall it just didn't work for me.  I'd be willing to give the reboot a try, though. Unless it's animated.

I wish I had never seen the movie. I pretend it doesn't exist.


Serenity was a disappointment in several ways to me, but the biggest disappointment isn't the one you're thinking of.

My biggest beef with Serenity is that it's got FTL communication.

In the series Firefly, while it's never explicitly stated, communications travel at the speed of light.  For example, in the first episode, they "send a wave to Patience", and have to wait for a response when they are a long distance from Whitefall.  Later, when Serenity is in orbit around Whitefall (or nearly so) they have a real time video chat.

That's a major hint that communications happen at the speed of light and no faster.  The rest of the series is consistent with that.

Then came the movie, and there are instantaneous video chats all across the 'Verse.   Mal talks to Inara, Mal talks to the Operative, etc.  No delays, even though separated by vast distances in space.
 
2020-12-15 11:58:43 AM  
Make it animated and use the style of the comic series. Been enjoying the current comic run.
 
2020-12-15 12:34:49 PM  
I'm in the "do a spin-off, not a reboot" camp.  I'm even good if they want to use the ship again, just continue the story with new characters.  Trying to use the same characters just sets you up for failure.

Like others have said, original cast cameos, story picks up after the movie, not G rated & I'd be happy to see it.
 
2020-12-15 12:51:55 PM  

Copperbelly watersnake: You would have thought Disney would have learned their lesson with Solo. No one's going to be able to replace the performance of the old crew in the fans' eyes.


The huge difference is Solo was taking something established from a successful franchise and this is not.  You can debate the reasons why, but not many people watched it when it aired.  Then there was a huge push for a movie which was GOING TO BE HUGE...and it wasn't.  Even without Hollywood accounting it lost millions.

//Budget was 39 million.  Worldwide BO was 40.5 million.  Even if the studio got 100% of box office (it doesn't), it would have cost more than a million and a half to advertise and distribute it.

///Movie made the mistake of trying to thread the needle between the wants of fans and the needs of people unfamiliar with it and failed with both.
 
2020-12-15 12:52:37 PM  

Copperbelly watersnake: You would have thought Disney would have learned their lesson with Solo. No one's going to be able to replace the performance of the old crew in the fans' eyes.

They should have continued with the storyline from Serenity, and had a new cast dealing with the fallout from the transmission sent. It would have allowed for the occasional cameo from the Serenity crew.

/Sick to death of reboots and prequels. Actually continue the storyline for once


They don't care.  They will have a new generation of fans (even if it is smaller) beholden to their IP.  That's all Disney cares about.  They might be concerned if it wasn't making enough money, but there's always something else to make after they cancel this one.

And if the people who signed up for Serenity (and got not-really-Serenity) stay on Disney+ for the other stuff, they've more than won.  I'm guessing those that would stay have already signed on, but who knows what Disney thinks (and they probably have better data, although don't count on the decision makers actually using it).
 
2020-12-15 12:53:16 PM  

dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: Great_Milenko: I know I'm in the extreme minority here but I never really got he appeal of Firefly.  Bought the DVD set and never finished it.  Never did see the movie.  There were parts I liked, but overall it just didn't work for me.  I'd be willing to give the reboot a try, though. Unless it's animated.

I wish I had never seen the movie. I pretend it doesn't exist.

Serenity was a disappointment in several ways to me, but the biggest disappointment isn't the one you're thinking of.

My biggest beef with Serenity is that it's got FTL communication.

In the series Firefly, while it's never explicitly stated, communications travel at the speed of light.  For example, in the first episode, they "send a wave to Patience", and have to wait for a response when they are a long distance from Whitefall.  Later, when Serenity is in orbit around Whitefall (or nearly so) they have a real time video chat.

That's a major hint that communications happen at the speed of light and no faster.  The rest of the series is consistent with that.

Then came the movie, and there are instantaneous video chats all across the 'Verse.   Mal talks to Inara, Mal talks to the Operative, etc.  No delays, even though separated by vast distances in space.


Ugh, now you had to go and remind me of that fact as well. Thanks a lot!
 
2020-12-15 12:57:15 PM  
The mouse is going to ram it's money grubbing fist betwixt your nethers.
 
2020-12-15 12:57:42 PM  
Look, Firefly was made up of two parts. One  part was the incredible chemistry of the cast that allowed them to pull off horrible dialogue in a way that read as charming and fun instead of annoying. (Seriously, Joss Whedon's quip heavy style creates characters who would be insufferable to be around) The other part was a generic "Western in Spaaaaaace".

What I'm getting at is that nobody tuned in for the second part. I mean, they enjoyed it, sure, but the draw was the cast and the characters they created. Otherwise, the show was just a generic pile of tired tropes. Combine that with the fact that die-hard fans are going to be upset at the "sacrilege" and nobody else gives a shiat about Firefly, this is one of those: "why even bother?" It's not going to have any significant appeal, and sure, you can probably do it on the cheap, but why?

Better odds of doing a "gang of smugglers in the Star Wars universe". Given that Mandalorian is the biggest fan-favorite since Disney took over, may as well roll with that.
 
2020-12-15 12:58:48 PM  

NuclearPenguins: Ugh, now you had to go and remind me of that fact as well. Thanks a lot!


Payback is a Patience.   ;-)
 
2020-12-15 1:05:12 PM  

dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: Also, Baldwin is a giant piece of shiat in real life. Don't give him any more airtime/money.

Start the first episode with this: "Note: Jayne Cobbdied on the way back to his home planet."

Politics tab is that way  ---------->

Ironically, farthest tab to the right.  Can't miss it.  It's full of people just like you.

I've decided not to engage with you on such topics any longer. Keeps my blood pressure down and less time spent in Fark's time-out box. We shall stick to discussions of Japanese monster films and Tremors.

Well, I'm subby, and you decided to bring politics into this thread.  So you do you.


Being subby gives you the right to what, exactly?

Oh, that's right, jack and shiat.

And Baldwin IS a huge piece of shiat and that is relevant to the discussion.
 
2020-12-15 1:35:57 PM  

Bslim: dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: NuclearPenguins: Also, Baldwin is a giant piece of shiat in real life. Don't give him any more airtime/money.

Start the first episode with this: "Note: Jayne Cobbdied on the way back to his home planet."

Politics tab is that way  ---------->

Ironically, farthest tab to the right.  Can't miss it.  It's full of people just like you.

I've decided not to engage with you on such topics any longer. Keeps my blood pressure down and less time spent in Fark's time-out box. We shall stick to discussions of Japanese monster films and Tremors.

Well, I'm subby, and you decided to bring politics into this thread.  So you do you.

Being subby gives you the right to what, exactly?

Oh, that's right, jack and shiat.

And Baldwin IS a huge piece of shiat and that is relevant to the discussion.


We already kissed and made up, you 笨天生的一堆肉.
 
2020-12-15 1:37:51 PM  

BullBearMS: The mouse is going to ram it's money grubbing fist betwixt your nethers.


Ironic considering the source.  I think Apple does some things well (interface on mobile is one), but the interface for Apple TV+ is absolute dog shiat.  Some of the shows on there are good, but it is by far the worst interface of the streaming services I have.
 
2020-12-15 1:39:05 PM  

Bslim: There is a twist here and the twist is that they see the show as ideal family-friendly programming for Disney+.  My source tells me they're planning to target it more at a PG-adventure, family audience and less at the sort of PG-13 dynamic the original Joss Whedon show went for.


This sounds like the special hell


Plus, Joss Whedon is in some sort of weird controversy where he apparently abused the actors on the Justice League set or something (??), so he's apparently not hireable right now and therefore won't have anything to do with the project.

Basically, this is going to be "Watchmen Babies" and horrible.
 
2020-12-15 1:41:06 PM  

Geotpf: so he's apparently not hireable right now and therefore won't have anything to do with the project


Honestly, though? That's probably to the show's credit. Whedon tends to fall in love with his ideas and run them into the ground. Like, if Firefly ran for 3 seasons, it'd be fondly remembered as a promising series which declined in quality quickly.
 
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