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2020-12-05 12:05:37 PM  
Seriously? I've been saying for this years.

Of all of the incarnations of Biff (and his ancestors and descendants), the one at the end of the first movie is the only one that is happy. He has own business, doing what he loves (working with cars), he's his own boss, he's not stressed and miserable about his dumb middle-management supervisor job, he's not constantly angry at the world... He even seems genuinely pleased for George when he brings in the package containing George's newly-published book.

A lot of people see Biff's fate as humiliation and just deserts for his bullying and violence. But I think the film is doing something more subtle.
 
2020-12-05 12:38:19 PM  

HugeMistake: Seriously? I've been saying for this years.

Of all of the incarnations of Biff (and his ancestors and descendants), the one at the end of the first movie is the only one that is happy. He has own business, doing what he loves (working with cars), he's his own boss, he's not stressed and miserable about his dumb middle-management supervisor job, he's not constantly angry at the world... He even seems genuinely pleased for George when he brings in the package containing George's newly-published book.

A lot of people see Biff's fate as humiliation and just deserts for his bullying and violence. But I think the film is doing something more subtle.


As I have said many times, I consider the first Back to the Future to be a near perfect film, while I consider the sequels to essentially be fun, well done fan fiction.

Don't get me wrong, there are a few problems, particularly with the "fixed" timeline at the end, but Biff's character was tied up nicely. He was a bully who was humbled by taking a beating from George and later became a seemingly decent guy who owned his own business.

I think the later iterations of Biff and other Tannens muddy our view of the original character's resolution.

/the post credit scene starts part 2 and doesn't count
 
2020-12-05 12:51:56 PM  

Hoban Washburne: As I have said many times, I consider the first Back to the Future to be a near perfect film, while I consider the sequels to essentially be fun, well done fan fiction.


I feel the same way about Star Wars.
 
2020-12-05 2:35:57 PM  

HugeMistake: Hoban Washburne: As I have said many times, I consider the first Back to the Future to be a near perfect film, while I consider the sequels to essentially be fun, well done fan fiction.

I feel the same way about Star Wars.


I pretty much agree, though Empire was some REALLY good fanfic.
 
2020-12-05 2:40:03 PM  
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2020-12-05 4:51:22 PM  
Don't know if TFA mentions it, because fark the Express. But Michael J. Fox was zoom interviewed on Graham Norton's show last night. If I'm not mistaken, that episode goes out on BBC America this coming Friday?

Definitely worth a watch, if only for the anecdote of how his son told him to deal with a Twitter troll.
 
2020-12-05 5:39:19 PM  

HugeMistake: Seriously? I've been saying for this years.

Of all of the incarnations of Biff (and his ancestors and descendants), the one at the end of the first movie is the only one that is happy. He has own business, doing what he loves (working with cars), he's his own boss, he's not stressed and miserable about his dumb middle-management supervisor job, he's not constantly angry at the world... He even seems genuinely pleased for George when he brings in the package containing George's newly-published book.

A lot of people see Biff's fate as humiliation and just deserts for his bullying and violence. But I think the film is doing something more subtle.


It's a nice idea, but obsequious Biff is clearly meant to be an act. His mask briefly slips when he snaps at Marty in the garage at the end, before realizing who he is and quickly going back into "aw shucks" mode. He wasn't a good guy, just a lifetime bully who'd been literally and figuratively beaten into submission.
 
2020-12-05 5:46:14 PM  

HugeMistake: Seriously? I've been saying for this years.

Of all of the incarnations of Biff (and his ancestors and descendants), the one at the end of the first movie is the only one that is happy. He has own business, doing what he loves (working with cars), he's his own boss, he's not stressed and miserable about his dumb middle-management supervisor job, he's not constantly angry at the world... He even seems genuinely pleased for George when he brings in the package containing George's newly-published book.

A lot of people see Biff's fate as humiliation and just deserts for his bullying and violence. But I think the film is doing something more subtle.


I just wonder how the conversation between George and Lorraine went.
"Hey, you know who would be great at taking care of the cars? That dude who tried to rape you in high school!"
 
2020-12-05 6:02:28 PM  

HugeMistake: Seriously? I've been saying for this years.

Of all of the incarnations of Biff (and his ancestors and descendants), the one at the end of the first movie is the only one that is happy. He has own business, doing what he loves (working with cars), he's his own boss, he's not stressed and miserable about his dumb middle-management supervisor job, he's not constantly angry at the world... He even seems genuinely pleased for George when he brings in the package containing George's newly-published book.

A lot of people see Biff's fate as humiliation and just deserts for his bullying and violence. But I think the film is doing something more subtle.


Agreed. I was like "no shiat." I guess this is what "journalism" is these days. Some dipshiat article writer discovering crap everyone else has known for decades.
 
2020-12-05 6:16:03 PM  
Biff's Question Song (Stand-up Comedy)
Youtube iwY5o2fsG7Y
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2020-12-05 6:27:19 PM  

Hoban Washburne: HugeMistake: Seriously? I've been saying for this years.

Of all of the incarnations of Biff (and his ancestors and descendants), the one at the end of the first movie is the only one that is happy. He has own business, doing what he loves (working with cars), he's his own boss, he's not stressed and miserable about his dumb middle-management supervisor job, he's not constantly angry at the world... He even seems genuinely pleased for George when he brings in the package containing George's newly-published book.

A lot of people see Biff's fate as humiliation and just deserts for his bullying and violence. But I think the film is doing something more subtle.

As I have said many times, I consider the first Back to the Future to be a near perfect film, while I consider the sequels to essentially be fun, well done fan fiction.

Don't get me wrong, there are a few problems, particularly with the "fixed" timeline at the end, but Biff's character was tied up nicely. He was a bully who was humbled by taking a beating from George and later became a seemingly decent guy who owned his own business.

I think the later iterations of Biff and other Tannens muddy our view of the original character's resolution.

/the post credit scene starts part 2 and doesn't count


The 2nd one was prophetic, a warning to us but we didn't listen. All the 'winning', the horribleness of the last 4 years, the divided USA...


we should never have allowed the Cubs to win a World Series.
 
2020-12-05 6:37:54 PM  

Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist: [YouTube video: Biff's Question Song (Stand-up Comedy)][Fark user image image 425x600]

Eric Stoltz originally played Marty, but was fired due to performance issues.


The original script was an explicit sex comedy, apparently.
 
2020-12-05 7:26:43 PM  
They should have had Biff with his kid, showing him the ropes of the family business and his loving wife bringing him lunch. Maybe too saccharine though.
 
2020-12-05 8:22:35 PM  
That's only because Sam Beckett had leapt into Marty McFly to change the world for the better.
 
2020-12-05 10:06:16 PM  

bfh0417: RogueWallEnthusiast: Hoban Washburne: HugeMistake: Seriously? I've been saying for this years.

Of all of the incarnations of Biff (and his ancestors and descendants), the one at the end of the first movie is the only one that is happy. He has own business, doing what he loves (working with cars), he's his own boss, he's not stressed and miserable about his dumb middle-management supervisor job, he's not constantly angry at the world... He even seems genuinely pleased for George when he brings in the package containing George's newly-published book.

A lot of people see Biff's fate as humiliation and just deserts for his bullying and violence. But I think the film is doing something more subtle.

As I have said many times, I consider the first Back to the Future to be a near perfect film, while I consider the sequels to essentially be fun, well done fan fiction.

Don't get me wrong, there are a few problems, particularly with the "fixed" timeline at the end, but Biff's character was tied up nicely. He was a bully who was humbled by taking a beating from George and later became a seemingly decent guy who owned his own business.

I think the later iterations of Biff and other Tannens muddy our view of the original character's resolution.

/the post credit scene starts part 2 and doesn't count

The 2nd one was prophetic, a warning to us but we didn't listen. All the 'winning', the horribleness of the last 4 years, the divided USA...


we should never have allowed the Cubs to win a World Series.

Reaching... 1/10.


Yeah, total reach.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics​/​politics-news/back-to-the-future-write​r-biff-is-donald-trump-190408/amp/
 
2020-12-06 12:51:44 PM  

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Alternate world Trump is in much better shape
 
2020-12-06 6:37:58 PM  

MagSeven: I just wonder how the conversation between George and Lorraine went.
"Hey, you know who would be great at taking care of the cars? That dude who tried to rape you in high school!"


It seems odd, but maybe Biff has shown sincere contrition as part of turning his life around (I know, that's a bit "Twelve Steps", but still...), and Lorraine is generous enough not to condemn a directionless, unloved, unparented, alcohol-abusing teenager for the rest of his life.

Or, maybe she gets a kick out of having him work for them.
 
2020-12-07 12:55:14 AM  

HugeMistake: MagSeven: I just wonder how the conversation between George and Lorraine went.
"Hey, you know who would be great at taking care of the cars? That dude who tried to rape you in high school!"

It seems odd, but maybe Biff has shown sincere contrition as part of turning his life around (I know, that's a bit "Twelve Steps", but still...), and Lorraine is generous enough not to condemn a directionless, unloved, unparented, alcohol-abusing teenager for the rest of his life.

Or, maybe she gets a kick out of having him work for them.


George and Lorraine had an open marriage. It's the only way George could be cool with their middle kid not just being named after that Marty guy they both knew in high school, but also looking exactly like him. Their sexual proclivities might have also included dominating Biff in ways that went well beyond just servicing their cars.
 
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