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2020-12-05 11:22:24 AM  
Well.. I mean in theory you could social distance.... Unless they're porn studios

Are we actually talking about porn studios?
 
2020-12-05 11:43:46 AM  
It's a stretch, sure, but the movie business employs a shiat-ton of people in Southern California, so I sort of get it. I just hope they wear a farking mask.
 
2020-12-05 12:02:26 PM  

FlashHarry: It's a stretch, sure, but the movie business employs a shiat-ton of people in Southern California, so I sort of get it. I just hope they wear a farking mask.


It's one more example of people valuing money over human lives.
 
2020-12-05 12:08:08 PM  
Production is NOT deemed "essential" by LA or the California.  Production companies are allowed to operate under specific guidelines agreed to by the unions and also abide by protocols required by the counties.

In the same classification are restaurants.  In LA indoor/outdoor is prohibited.   Carry-out and delivery is still okay.

Obviously there is a difference between the same employees using an outdoor dining area vs the general public using an outdoor dining area.
 
2020-12-05 12:13:04 PM  
It's going to be nice when the population here evaporates
 
2020-12-05 12:16:43 PM  

Bob Falfa: FlashHarry: It's a stretch, sure, but the movie business employs a shiat-ton of people in Southern California, so I sort of get it. I just hope they wear a farking mask.

It's one more example of people valuing money over human lives.


It's capitalism. Money is essential.
 
2020-12-05 12:18:24 PM  

yohohogreengiant: Well.. I mean in theory you could social distance.... Unless they're porn studios

Are we actually talking about porn studios?


I prefer 80s porn, so it doesn't matter to me.
 
2020-12-05 12:41:25 PM  

TomDooley: Production is NOT deemed "essential" by LA or the California.  Production companies are allowed to operate under specific guidelines agreed to by the unions and also abide by protocols required by the counties.


THIS.

Film crews are all IATSE union workers. IATSE has prepared guidelines for workers in the Age of Covid.
 
2020-12-05 2:42:53 PM  
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2020-12-05 3:41:15 PM  
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They can always CGI in the lip sync
 
2020-12-05 4:01:15 PM  
the movie actors have the anitbodies.  Antibodies to corona are formed by having a strong lobby that donates money to politicians.  The money goes to the politicians, and they transform it into antibodies and give the antibodies to the unions that then distribute it to the members.  Then the members give money to the union, and the union gives money to the lobbiests and then the cycle of life continues.
 
2020-12-05 4:03:03 PM  

FlashHarry: It's a stretch, sure, but the movie business employs a shiat-ton of people in Southern California, so I sort of get it. I just hope they wear a farking mask.


Get this:

I'm Filipino and I know a farkton of nurses. They are NOT required to get tested regularly for Covid19, even the ones in the Covid wards.

I graduated film school and know a farkton of entertainment people. They are required to test negative (Some twice consecutively) before being approved for work. Covid19 compliance officers are required on all sets, and the bigger studios are making entire crews isolate from the rest of society for months in "bubbles", providing them everything and keeping them from leaving.

I'm being totally honest when I say I'd feel safer on a film set than in a hospital right now, or anywhere else frankly.
 
2020-12-05 4:06:34 PM  

TomDooley: Production is NOT deemed "essential" by LA or the California.  Production companies are allowed to operate under specific guidelines agreed to by the unions and also abide by protocols required by the counties.

In the same classification are restaurants.  In LA indoor/outdoor is prohibited.   Carry-out and delivery is still okay.

Obviously there is a difference between the same employees using an outdoor dining area vs the general public using an outdoor dining area.


I get why she is pissed but it is clear from the data that people who get sick are the ones going to restaurants.  There is certainly a correlation (if not a causation).

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/26/this-​c​hart-shows-the-link-between-restaurant​-spending-and-new-coronavirus-cases.ht​ml

If the movie productions are using protocols and testing that would be cost prohibitive for restaurants it makes sense that they are allowed to do what she can't.  Essentially, the studios are testing the food workers as well as the customers who eat there (film crews).  I don't know of any restaurant that does that (or is financially capable of doing that).

FTFA - "Under the county's guidelines, video and music production is essential."

Now that's ridiculous.
 
2020-12-05 4:08:34 PM  
It's not a restaurant, it's not serving random people that just decide to show up. It's a place for employees to eat.
 
2020-12-05 4:28:05 PM  

sleze: TomDooley: Production is NOT deemed "essential" by LA or the California.  Production companies are allowed to operate under specific guidelines agreed to by the unions and also abide by protocols required by the counties.

In the same classification are restaurants.  In LA indoor/outdoor is prohibited.   Carry-out and delivery is still okay.

Obviously there is a difference between the same employees using an outdoor dining area vs the general public using an outdoor dining area.

I get why she is pissed but it is clear from the data that people who get sick are the ones going to restaurants.  There is certainly a correlation (if not a causation).

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/26/this-c​hart-shows-the-link-between-restaurant​-spending-and-new-coronavirus-cases.ht​ml

If the movie productions are using protocols and testing that would be cost prohibitive for restaurants it makes sense that they are allowed to do what she can't.  Essentially, the studios are testing the food workers as well as the customers who eat there (film crews).  I don't know of any restaurant that does that (or is financially capable of doing that).

FTFA - "Under the county's guidelines, video and music production is essential."

Now that's ridiculous.


It's the article which incorrectly says it's essential.

Where I live (NorCal) the county has said most of the cases are being traced back to private gatherings.  It's unfortunate restaurants and salons bear the brunt of Covidiots not taking the pandemic seriously.   Articles like this just deflect blame.
 
2020-12-05 4:30:09 PM  

Bob Falfa: FlashHarry: It's a stretch, sure, but the movie business employs a shiat-ton of people in Southern California, so I sort of get it. I just hope they wear a farking mask.

It's one more example of people valuing money over human lives.


The right to make TV shows SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
 
2020-12-05 4:39:34 PM  

Bob Falfa: FlashHarry: It's a stretch, sure, but the movie business employs a shiat-ton of people in Southern California, so I sort of get it. I just hope they wear a farking mask.

It's one more example of people valuing money over human lives.


Here's a crazier example from last week: a movie crew almost shut down a COVID testing site due to a scheduling conflict at the location:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/01/us/los​-​angeles-coronavirus-testing-site-filmi​ng-trnd/index.html
 
2020-12-05 4:41:02 PM  
Old news is old news.
 
2020-12-05 4:42:51 PM  
The people mad about this lose the right to slurp up the content these essential workers are creating.
 
2020-12-05 4:54:45 PM  

FlashHarry: It's a stretch, sure, but the movie business employs a shiat-ton of people in Southern California, so I sort of get it.


When I lived in LA the entertainment industry dominated the business news the way the auto industry did when I lived in metro Detroit.
 
2020-12-05 5:06:35 PM  
Working in the post production business, I see a lot of footage before it goes to the editors.  When non-actors (2nd AC, props, makeup, etc.) happen to be on camera they are always wearing a mask, and sometimes a face shield.
 
2020-12-05 5:10:59 PM  

hlehmann: Working in the post production business, I see a lot of footage before it goes to the editors.  When non-actors (2nd AC, props, makeup, etc.) happen to be on camera they are always wearing a mask, and sometimes a face shield.


Generally entertainment people are more liberal, so you'd expect them to "believe" in science. 

It's actually funny how that works. Belief in science going hand-in-hand with creativity.
 
2020-12-05 5:27:06 PM  
farking nonsense.

To work on a film or tv set currently you have to:

Be in isolation in a private hotel for 3 days prior to working.
Remain in that hotel for the duration of your time on the job.
Be rapid tested EVERY day.

To eat at a restaurant you have to:

Go in and sit down.
 
2020-12-05 5:31:25 PM  

gunther_bumpass: hlehmann: Working in the post production business, I see a lot of footage before it goes to the editors.  When non-actors (2nd AC, props, makeup, etc.) happen to be on camera they are always wearing a mask, and sometimes a face shield.

Generally entertainment people are more liberal, so you'd expect them to "believe" in science. 

It's actually funny how that works. Belief in science going hand-in-hand with creativity.


The science says distancing and avoiding prolonged stays in enclosed spaces with circulating air are the best way to avoid catching the virus. Wearing a mask is helpful, but the non-medical grades available to most of us don't offer completely reliable protection. And if you're just wrapping your face in a bandana or a scarf, that's about as effective in preventing COVID transmission as using a lambskin condom to block STDs.

Yes, it's safer and smarter to wear a mask, but it isn't smart to act like they're magic talismans that solve all the problems.
 
2020-12-05 5:35:09 PM  
I shot a reality show a few weeks ago. We were tested every other day and went mask-less. The crew were always masked.
 
2020-12-05 5:40:06 PM  

mmojo: I shot a reality show a few weeks ago.


Why in the name of all that's decent and holy would you admit this?

I mean, good for you for making a living, but couldn't you do something more ethical like selling drugs to school children, producing child pornography, or sacrificing the elderly to make tasty snacks?

Again, good for you for making a living. You're.. uh... "one of the good ones". What the world needs is more "reality" shows.
 
2020-12-05 5:41:28 PM  

mmojo: I shot a reality show a few weeks ago. We were tested every other day and went mask-less. The crew were always masked.


How did you get tests, if the tests are supposed to be rationed.  And have been rationed for a few weeks?  Does the make believe industry have special access to tests because they are better than other people?  The upper crust?  Not underchuds?  Because they make starlets have sex with politicians, so the industry gets tests that regular people cant get?
 
2020-12-05 5:48:33 PM  

EdgeRunner: The science says distancing and avoiding prolonged stays in enclosed spaces with circulating air are the best way to avoid catching the virus. Wearing a mask is helpful, but the non-medical grades available to most of us don't offer completely reliable protection.


Masks are most effective at stopping spreading, catching the virus.
 
2020-12-05 5:54:27 PM  

The_Sponge: yohohogreengiant: Well.. I mean in theory you could social distance.... Unless they're porn studios

Are we actually talking about porn studios?

I prefer 80s porn, so it doesn't matter to me.


A GILF man, eh?
 
2020-12-05 6:05:13 PM  
THIS IS WHY I DONT TRUST LIEBRAL COMMIEWOOD
 
2020-12-05 6:08:03 PM  

jaytkay: EdgeRunner: The science says distancing and avoiding prolonged stays in enclosed spaces with circulating air are the best way to avoid catching the virus. Wearing a mask is helpful, but the non-medical grades available to most of us don't offer completely reliable protection.

Masks are most effective at stopping spreading, catching the virus.


Medical grade masks are effective. The ones most of the public are wearing only have limited effectiveness, and depending on the materials used, may not be very effective at all. Now add in improper usage like constantly touching and rearranging the mask, rewearing the same mask throughout the day while regularly taking it off and putting it on "as needed", not covering the nose, not having a good fit, pulling it down to talk on the phone or to other people, only pulling it over your mouth and nose once people are within a certain distance, and countless other mistakes people make on a routine basis, and you'll see that no matter how many policies a company has, they're still at risk due to common carelessness. We don't trust the schools to be safe and they're managed by actual educators, yet we're supposed to believe a Hollywood set full of fun-loving entertainment staff is going to do a more conscientious job? Ask Robert Pattinson how bullet proof those on-set mask policies were.
 
2020-12-05 7:14:19 PM  
Small business owners are like churches. They tend to not donate to the Democratic Party. This is the only reason the state is holding them to wildly different standards as compared to law firms, entertainment productions, leftist protests, etc.
 
2020-12-05 7:23:29 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: mmojo: I shot a reality show a few weeks ago. We were tested every other day and went mask-less. The crew were always masked.

How did you get tests, if the tests are supposed to be rationed.  And have been rationed for a few weeks?  Does the make believe industry have special access to tests because they are better than other people?  The upper crust?  Not underchuds?  Because they make starlets have sex with politicians, so the industry gets tests that regular people cant get?


The production had a Covid compliance officer. He administered the tests. I don't know where he got them. I also don't think I can answer the rest of your questions.

WhippingBoi: mmojo: I shot a reality show a few weeks ago.

Why in the name of all that's decent and holy would you admit this?

I mean, good for you for making a living, but couldn't you do something more ethical like selling drugs to school children, producing child pornography, or sacrificing the elderly to make tasty snacks?

Again, good for you for making a living. You're.. uh... "one of the good ones". What the world needs is more "reality" shows.


I'm not sure what's wrong for being on a reality series. My partner has been on two. She won a gigantic house and two cars. Which was nice.
 
2020-12-05 7:30:47 PM  

mmojo: I'm not sure what's wrong for being on a reality series. My partner has been on two. She won a gigantic house and two cars. Which was nice.


That's what matters most. However, if she had instead sold drugs to school children, she'd have *two* gigantic houses and four cars now. Which would be even nicer!
 
2020-12-05 7:51:40 PM  
So on the one hand I can see it not being essential, but on the other hand endless TV and Movie content from home is making it possible to feel like nobody else has to go anywhere so its sort of a push.
 
2020-12-05 8:57:40 PM  

mmojo: AmbassadorBooze: mmojo: I shot a reality show a few weeks ago. We were tested every other day and went mask-less. The crew were always masked.

How did you get tests, if the tests are supposed to be rationed.  And have been rationed for a few weeks?  Does the make believe industry have special access to tests because they are better than other people?  The upper crust?  Not underchuds?  Because they make starlets have sex with politicians, so the industry gets tests that regular people cant get?

The production had a Covid compliance officer. He administered the tests. I don't know where he got them. I also don't think I can answer the rest of your questions.


So, the movie industry of make believe can get unlimted tests, but us Chuds who don't play dress up all day cannot get tests unless we are actively sick and have comorbidities.  Right now, if us chuds know we were exposed to a person who tested positive, but we don't have symptoms and are not big old tubs of lard, we can't get a test.  But, because some people are playing dress up and make belive, they can get tests every other day?  Even if they don't have sysmptoms?

Sweet Feathery Jesus, the SAG must be sending the most nubile of starlets, trained in all the ways of pleasuring to the politicians.  Are they at least doing it of their own free will, to help the industry, or are they enslaved and being forced into the old sucky sucky?
 
2020-12-05 9:34:31 PM  
The way California has gone around what is allowed to be open and what isn't is corrupt.
 
2020-12-05 9:36:36 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: mmojo: AmbassadorBooze: mmojo: I shot a reality show a few weeks ago. We were tested every other day and went mask-less. The crew were always masked.

How did you get tests, if the tests are supposed to be rationed.  And have been rationed for a few weeks?  Does the make believe industry have special access to tests because they are better than other people?  The upper crust?  Not underchuds?  Because they make starlets have sex with politicians, so the industry gets tests that regular people cant get?

The production had a Covid compliance officer. He administered the tests. I don't know where he got them. I also don't think I can answer the rest of your questions.

So, the movie industry of make believe can get unlimted tests, but us Chuds who don't play dress up all day cannot get tests unless we are actively sick and have comorbidities.  Right now, if us chuds know we were exposed to a person who tested positive, but we don't have symptoms and are not big old tubs of lard, we can't get a test.  But, because some people are playing dress up and make belive, they can get tests every other day?  Even if they don't have sysmptoms?

Sweet Feathery Jesus, the SAG must be sending the most nubile of starlets, trained in all the ways of pleasuring to the politicians.  Are they at least doing it of their own free will, to help the industry, or are they enslaved and being forced into the old sucky sucky?


I don't think I can address your questions either. Except to just say that there was no make believe in the show. It merely depicted the reality of an event.
 
2020-12-05 10:00:08 PM  

mmojo: AmbassadorBooze: mmojo: AmbassadorBooze: mmojo: I shot a reality show a few weeks ago. We were tested every other day and went mask-less. The crew were always masked.

How did you get tests, if the tests are supposed to be rationed.  And have been rationed for a few weeks?  Does the make believe industry have special access to tests because they are better than other people?  The upper crust?  Not underchuds?  Because they make starlets have sex with politicians, so the industry gets tests that regular people cant get?

The production had a Covid compliance officer. He administered the tests. I don't know where he got them. I also don't think I can answer the rest of your questions.

So, the movie industry of make believe can get unlimted tests, but us Chuds who don't play dress up all day cannot get tests unless we are actively sick and have comorbidities.  Right now, if us chuds know we were exposed to a person who tested positive, but we don't have symptoms and are not big old tubs of lard, we can't get a test.  But, because some people are playing dress up and make belive, they can get tests every other day?  Even if they don't have sysmptoms?

Sweet Feathery Jesus, the SAG must be sending the most nubile of starlets, trained in all the ways of pleasuring to the politicians.  Are they at least doing it of their own free will, to help the industry, or are they enslaved and being forced into the old sucky sucky?

I don't think I can address your questions either. Except to just say that there was no make believe in the show. It merely depicted the reality of an event.


OK, so only actual documentries are being allowed to film?  You know what, if you, or the people who have Mob connections for unlimited corona tests, can garuantee that only documentaries, and or science shows like Cosmos or david attenburough stuff are being filmed, I will give them a pass.  But, if any make belive or dress up is being filmed and the actors get unlimited tests, then it proves the whole farking system is corrupt to the bone.  Into the bone.  Into dimensions we can't even see.
 
2020-12-05 10:19:31 PM  
For fark's sake... I give up. Good luck, folks.
 
2020-12-06 12:39:15 AM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: The_Sponge: yohohogreengiant: Well.. I mean in theory you could social distance.... Unless they're porn studios

Are we actually talking about porn studios?

I prefer 80s porn, so it doesn't matter to me.

A GILF man, eh?


Lulz.

1980s!
 
2020-12-06 1:52:34 AM  
... I'm sorry, but some of you still can't get tested? Holy shiat.
 
2020-12-06 2:29:19 AM  
Newsom stepped on his dick when he signed AB5, which outlawed independent contractors, and the entire entertainment industry (movies, television, publishing, music depends on independent contractors) threatened to move out of state/out of the US. He had to hurry a law through exempting the entertainment industry to stop the migration. Then last  March when the Covid lockdown happened he did it again by closing everything down. Everything went dark, but there was hope things were getting better. Now it's closing down Tight again only this time studios are being allowed to work. Doesn't help me much, I work in event production (concerts) and live music is still taking a kick in the nuts, haven't worked for close to a year and it doesn't look like there will be much touring next summer. Been doing this 40 years, not interested in learning to flip burgers.
 
2020-12-06 9:41:22 AM  

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This meme needs an asterisk. My job has all of this. America definitely is the lowest for offering this but the rest of the world isn't 100% either. Ask citizens of Germany, France and the UK about their assistance.
 
2020-12-06 9:47:03 AM  

il Dottore: Newsom stepped on his dick when he signed AB5, which outlawed independent contractors, and the entire entertainment industry (movies, television, publishing, music depends on independent contractors) threatened to move out of state/out of the US. He had to hurry a law through exempting the entertainment industry to stop the migration. Then last  March when the Covid lockdown happened he did it again by closing everything down. Everything went dark, but there was hope things were getting better. Now it's closing down Tight again only this time studios are being allowed to work. Doesn't help me much, I work in event production (concerts) and live music is still taking a kick in the nuts, haven't worked for close to a year and it doesn't look like there will be much touring next summer. Been doing this 40 years, not interested in learning to flip burgers.


Has anyone looked into opening venues for musicians only and keeping them separate from staffing and fans can live stream a concert? I know its not perfect and then do a twitch stream during sets and a QA after? I've seen smaller bands do it all streaming from where they are.
 
2020-12-06 10:37:53 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: mmojo: AmbassadorBooze: mmojo: AmbassadorBooze: mmojo: I shot a reality show a few weeks ago. We were tested every other day and went mask-less. The crew were always masked.

How did you get tests, if the tests are supposed to be rationed.  And have been rationed for a few weeks?  Does the make believe industry have special access to tests because they are better than other people?  The upper crust?  Not underchuds?  Because they make starlets have sex with politicians, so the industry gets tests that regular people cant get?

The production had a Covid compliance officer. He administered the tests. I don't know where he got them. I also don't think I can answer the rest of your questions.

So, the movie industry of make believe can get unlimted tests, but us Chuds who don't play dress up all day cannot get tests unless we are actively sick and have comorbidities.  Right now, if us chuds know we were exposed to a person who tested positive, but we don't have symptoms and are not big old tubs of lard, we can't get a test.  But, because some people are playing dress up and make belive, they can get tests every other day?  Even if they don't have sysmptoms?

Sweet Feathery Jesus, the SAG must be sending the most nubile of starlets, trained in all the ways of pleasuring to the politicians.  Are they at least doing it of their own free will, to help the industry, or are they enslaved and being forced into the old sucky sucky?

I don't think I can address your questions either. Except to just say that there was no make believe in the show. It merely depicted the reality of an event.

OK, so only actual documentries are being allowed to film?  You know what, if you, or the people who have Mob connections for unlimited corona tests, can garuantee that only documentaries, and or science shows like Cosmos or david attenburough stuff are being filmed, I will give them a pass.  But, if any make belive or dress up is being filmed and the actors get unlimited tests, then it prove ...


Mob connections? You seem awfully upset about a show about cakes and snow globes. And the only person who dressed up was me.

I am doing my best here but your argument would be more convincing and easier to address if more of the words you used were spelled correctly.
 
2020-12-06 11:48:31 AM  

terminalx: il Dottore: Newsom stepped on his dick when he signed AB5, which outlawed independent contractors, and the entire entertainment industry (movies, television, publishing, music depends on independent contractors) threatened to move out of state/out of the US. He had to hurry a law through exempting the entertainment industry to stop the migration. Then last  March when the Covid lockdown happened he did it again by closing everything down. Everything went dark, but there was hope things were getting better. Now it's closing down Tight again only this time studios are being allowed to work. Doesn't help me much, I work in event production (concerts) and live music is still taking a kick in the nuts, haven't worked for close to a year and it doesn't look like there will be much touring next summer. Been doing this 40 years, not interested in learning to flip burgers.

Has anyone looked into opening venues for musicians only and keeping them separate from staffing and fans can live stream a concert? I know its not perfect and then do a twitch stream during sets and a QA after? I've seen smaller bands do it all streaming from where they are.


Yep. Beacon Theater. Every Friday. No song repeats. https://trey.com/the-beacon-jams/

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2020-12-06 12:06:38 PM  

EdgeRunner: jaytkay: EdgeRunner: The science says distancing and avoiding prolonged stays in enclosed spaces with circulating air are the best way to avoid catching the virus. Wearing a mask is helpful, but the non-medical grades available to most of us don't offer completely reliable protection.

Masks are most effective at stopping spreading, catching the virus.

Medical grade masks are effective. The ones most of the public are wearing only have limited effectiveness, and depending on the materials used, may not be very effective at all. Now add in improper usage like constantly touching and rearranging the mask, rewearing the same mask throughout the day while regularly taking it off and putting it on "as needed", not covering the nose, not having a good fit, pulling it down to talk on the phone or to other people, only pulling it over your mouth and nose once people are within a certain distance, and countless other mistakes people make on a routine basis, and you'll see that no matter how many policies a company has, they're still at risk due to common carelessness. We don't trust the schools to be safe and they're managed by actual educators, yet we're supposed to believe a Hollywood set full of fun-loving entertainment staff is going to do a more conscientious job? Ask Robert Pattinson how bullet proof those on-set mask policies were.


So what is your point? Don't wear a mask because it isn't 100% effective? Look, even if it cuts my chances of acquiring or spreading the virus by 20% I'd say it was worth it.

If you were in a casino and there were two slot machines labelled "99% of the time you will lose" and "85% of the time you will lose" which would you choose?
 
2020-12-06 4:12:45 PM  

gunther_bumpass: EdgeRunner: jaytkay: EdgeRunner: The science says distancing and avoiding prolonged stays in enclosed spaces with circulating air are the best way to avoid catching the virus. Wearing a mask is helpful, but the non-medical grades available to most of us don't offer completely reliable protection.

Masks are most effective at stopping spreading, catching the virus.

Medical grade masks are effective. The ones most of the public are wearing only have limited effectiveness, and depending on the materials used, may not be very effective at all. Now add in improper usage like constantly touching and rearranging the mask, rewearing the same mask throughout the day while regularly taking it off and putting it on "as needed", not covering the nose, not having a good fit, pulling it down to talk on the phone or to other people, only pulling it over your mouth and nose once people are within a certain distance, and countless other mistakes people make on a routine basis, and you'll see that no matter how many policies a company has, they're still at risk due to common carelessness. We don't trust the schools to be safe and they're managed by actual educators, yet we're supposed to believe a Hollywood set full of fun-loving entertainment staff is going to do a more conscientious job? Ask Robert Pattinson how bullet proof those on-set mask policies were.

So what is your point? Don't wear a mask because it isn't 100% effective? Look, even if it cuts my chances of acquiring or spreading the virus by 20% I'd say it was worth it.

If you were in a casino and there were two slot machines labelled "99% of the time you will lose" and "85% of the time you will lose" which would you choose?


No, my point was obviously not "don't wear a mask". My point is wear them, but don't fetishize them and think the mere presence of masks offers an ironclad protection. They offer some protection, but they're not as effective as maintaining social distancing and avoiding indoor gatherings as much as possible. I'll spell this out as simply as I can:

Wear a mask.
Masks are good.
But don't just go back to socializing and hanging out with crowds of people thinking nothing bad can happen because of your mask.
Masks aren't that good.

I've lost all patience with smug idiots who insist they're following the science by wearing masks, but then go hang out at a bar with their friends with their masks on their chins while they drink the night away. There's more to the science than just the masks, and distancing is at the top of science's recommended to-do list.
 
2020-12-06 7:45:43 PM  

FlashHarry: It's a stretch, sure, but the movie business employs a shiat-ton of people in Southern California, so I sort of get it. I just hope they wear a farking mask.


So do restaurants.

And shops.

And barbers.

Stop sucking up to show business. They don't know you exist, and don't care about you.
 
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