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2020-12-05 6:45:40 PM  
This wasn't some cryptic goddamn Q communique.  He was saying he would have resigned if he had disagreed strongly enough with Obama when he was Veep, and expects Harris would do the same if she disagrees that strongly with him.  Wow.  Groundbreaking political stuff, there.

Some goddamn stupid people in this country.  At least 73 million dumbfarks.
 
2020-12-05 6:50:23 PM  

frestcrallen: recombobulator: It means he thinks you wish death upon Biden.  Your comment was ambiguous and he read it as "up there on the list" instead of "up there in age."  In context that's not a reasonable interpretation, but this is Fark.

Ok, thanks for clarifying.  I thought "up there in age" was pretty evident in context to the rest of my post, but I see the confusion.  Here's my edit:  "I don't wish ill-health on anyone, but Biden is elderly."

It doesn't take much for things to spiral away in crazy directions in these political threads.


but Biden is elderly so he can die?
 
2020-12-05 6:56:05 PM  

JRoo: leeksfromchichis: JRoo: He was talking about having an argument and resigning from the argument. He wasn't talking about the presidency.

Morons.

[media.tenor.co image 498x241]

Who tf says "resign from an argument" though?

People with a good education and grasp of the English language.


You attended a TTT and make a mediocre income. Tighten up
 
2020-12-05 6:57:03 PM  

haknudsen: but Biden is elderly so he can die?


But Biden is elderly, so there is a stronger likelihood that health factors related to his age might compromise his ability to continue to function effectively as POTUS in the long term.

How's that.  Did I miss anything
 
2020-12-05 6:57:26 PM  

snowshovel: so we are going from a president who makes decisive decisions, to a president who is openly admitting that he is going to call in sick and give up when presented with ideas that don't fit his worldview.


When you blow your troll account there is no going back.
 
2020-12-05 7:03:11 PM  

gameshowhost: gameshowhost: gopher321: 20 years from now: "President AOC".

White Moderate™ Dems will cockblock that.

But they'll tell you that they totally want to have the policies that AOC proposes - yet will mysteriously refuse to back her, and oft hamstring the shiat out of her instead.

/zero-risk incrementalism prioritizing mimosa brunches


And Fark's establishment zealots will out in droves to fall on that sword, handing out ultimatums that we peons will get progress on THEIR terms, or none at all. ("And while we're at it, STOP comparing me to MLK Jr.'s White Moderate! I sound NOTHING like that!")
 
2020-12-05 7:06:10 PM  

ImpendingCynic: Republicans sounded pretty ok with ignoring the two term limit.


They were also talking themselves into letting immigrant citizens be president when it looked like Arnold might run. Then Obama ran, the birther movement kicked off, and suddenly that never happened in their minds.
 
2020-12-05 7:06:27 PM  
I have no problem saying that, and please let it happen as soon as possible after Inauguration. Biden, like Trump, is much too old to be President. Coffin-dodgers have no business trying to mind our business.
 
2020-12-05 7:09:33 PM  

gopher321: 20 years from now: "President AOC".


I'd let her gerrymander my constituency.
 
2020-12-05 7:16:08 PM  

frestcrallen: haknudsen: but Biden is elderly so he can die?

But Biden is elderly, so there is a stronger likelihood that health factors related to his age might compromise his ability to continue to function effectively as POTUS in the long term.

How's that.  Did I miss anything


What's the worst that can happen? Still be worshiped as a Demi god despite developing relatively severe Alzheimer's which will be covered up by his administration? And his cult of personality will be co-opted by a reality tv star?
 
2020-12-05 7:43:56 PM  

Moopy Mac: What's the worst that can happen? Still be worshiped as a Demi god despite developing relatively severe Alzheimer's which will be covered up by his administration? And his cult of personality will be co-opted by a reality tv star?


1)  I don't personally know anyone who is worshipping him.  I don't know anyone who worships anything, for that matter, but I'm canadian.  He's a president-elect and a career politician who is an immeasurable improvement over his immediate predecessor.  Globally, I think most sane people are relieved about this.

2)  I don't know if Biden has Alzheimer's.  If he does, you can't reasonably expect him to remain in office, which is what I was getting at in my original post.  For all its flaws and internal strife, the U.S. is not a backwater third-world nation where infirm national leaders are propped up so shadow councils can keep running things status quo.  If he's sick, he'll step aside, and then Harris is there.

3)  There's no doubt that Trump will continue to have a voice once he's out of office, and there's loads of doomsday speculation about how influential his voice will be.  Personally, I hope he loses relevance as quickly as Sarah Palin did.
 
2020-12-05 7:46:12 PM  

gilgigamesh: Alright, this is what we voted for, so it's time to admit it and deal with it. Biden is a gaffe machine, and we are in for four years of him being a rhetorical minefield.

What he clearly meant was that when he was veep, he and Obama had an agreement where he would make an excuse and walk away if they reached a fundamental impasse on governing philosophy. And it'll be the same with him and Harris.

I know that's what he meant. You know it. His Republican enemies know it. But he walked right into that rake, and now we have to deal with the fallout.

We'd best get used to it, because this is gonna keep happening.


let's hope it stays within the confines of our nation.
 
2020-12-05 7:46:53 PM  
I'm so happy. It just keeps getting better and better. I love them both. Won't last, but I will sure take it for now.
 
2020-12-05 8:21:45 PM  
I predict the only bad thing to come out of the Biden administration is that we have to put up with Jim Carrey's lame-ass impression for the next four years. Jason Sudeikis had the best Biden impression.
 
2020-12-05 8:22:26 PM  

gilgigamesh: I know that's what he meant. You know it. His Republican enemies know it. But he walked right into that rake, and now we have to deal with the fallout.

We'd best get used to it, because this is gonna keep happening.


At least Biden stepped on that rake in a garden and didn't assume that Scandinavians raked their forests and other wilderness areas.
 
2020-12-05 8:45:27 PM  
Daily Caller is a right-wing bullshiat rag.  The fact this was greenlit is more newsworthy.  Be better.
 
2020-12-05 8:48:13 PM  

TwoHead: It has always been understood to be the case.


Actually, about 50% of VP's have historically not agreed... and nobody cared what they thought.

People in Washington will pat the VP on the head and (usually) politely ignore them.
 
2020-12-05 8:48:33 PM  

gilgigamesh: Alright, this is what we voted for, so it's time to admit it and deal with it. Biden is a gaffe machine, and we are in for four years of him being a rhetorical minefield.

What he clearly meant was that when he was veep, he and Obama had an agreement where he would make an excuse and walk away if they reached a fundamental impasse on governing philosophy. And it'll be the same with him and Harris.

I know that's what he meant. You know it. His Republican enemies know it. But he walked right into that rake, and now we have to deal with the fallout.

We'd best get used to it, because this is gonna keep happening.


....and it's still a canyon-wide better than the last four years.
 
2020-12-05 8:51:44 PM  

I Like Bread: gameshowhost: gameshowhost: gopher321: 20 years from now: "President AOC".

White Moderate™ Dems will cockblock that.

But they'll tell you that they totally want to have the policies that AOC proposes - yet will mysteriously refuse to back her, and oft hamstring the shiat out of her instead.

/zero-risk incrementalism prioritizing mimosa brunches

And Fark's establishment zealots will out in droves to fall on that sword, handing out ultimatums that we peons will get progress on THEIR terms, or none at all. ("And while we're at it, STOP comparing me to MLK Jr.'s White Moderate! I sound NOTHING like that!")


"hE wAs TaLkiNg AbOuT pRoGrEsSiVeS!!1"
 
2020-12-05 8:58:18 PM  

jso2897: leeksfromchichis: GardenWeasel: TwoHead: The VP serves at the pleasure of the President and politely gets out of the way if needed. It has always been understood to be the case. If people are dumb I don't have to agree with them.

The VP does not "serve at the pleasure of the President" like a political appointee.

They kinda do. Especially if the president is an old ass man claiming illness in a pandemic. Guess what he could do.

Now that you mention it, The President is an old ass man who is claiming illness in a pandemic.


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To be specific, check out 1:18 ish.
 
2020-12-05 9:24:53 PM  

Rwa2play: ....and it's still a canyon-wide better than the last four years.


In the same way that hypertension is better than a heart attack - but guess what happens when you let hypertension go untreated?
 
2020-12-05 9:33:39 PM  

I Like Bread: In the same way that hypertension is better than a heart attack - but guess what happens when you let hypertension go untreated?


it fixes the cable?

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2020-12-05 9:33:55 PM  

I Like Bread: Rwa2play: ....and it's still a canyon-wide better than the last four years.

In the same way that hypertension is better than a heart attack - but guess what happens when you let hypertension go untreated?


Wow, no.   However, do go on making mountains out of molehills; seems to be the only thing you're good at.
 
2020-12-05 10:24:30 PM  

I Like Bread: Rwa2play: ....and it's still a canyon-wide better than the last four years.

In the same way that hypertension is better than a heart attack - but guess what happens when you let hypertension go untreated?


Hypertension is infinitely better than a heart attack.  Hypertension is very treatable and might lead to conditions like a heart attack eventually.  A heart attack is killing you right that very moment and you have a couple of minutes to live.  You need to work on comparisons before the next parent-teacher conference.
 
2020-12-05 10:39:45 PM  

Aquapope: I Like Bread: Rwa2play: ....and it's still a canyon-wide better than the last four years.

In the same way that hypertension is better than a heart attack - but guess what happens when you let hypertension go untreated?

Hypertension is infinitely better than a heart attack.  Hypertension is very treatable and might lead to conditions like a heart attack eventually.  A heart attack is killing you right that very moment and you have a couple of minutes to live.  You need to work on comparisons before the next parent-teacher conference.


You need to work on basic reading comprehension the next time you try to act like a smartass. The operative word in my post was "untreated".
 
2020-12-05 10:45:04 PM  

TwoHead: I disagree. I understood him just fine. The VP serves at the pleasure of the President and politely gets out of the way if needed. It has always been understood to be the case. If people are dumb I don't have to agree with them.


My wife and I have this disagreement about politics frequently. She is fundamentally a peacemaker, and I am fundamentally an absolutist.  She tells me that I have to acknowledge other views, and that I can't just brand conservatives as all awful, and unworthy of attention.  I have the advantage of being right.  However, I also enjoy being married so I try to temper what I say to her. Doesn't always work, but I try.

I don't need to acknowledge things that are simply wrong. I will not engage in a debate about equal rights, healthcare for all, or quality education for all. There is no debate on those topics. My position is correct, people who disagree with me are wrong. Unless the data has a clear conservative bias, i.e. done by a clearly partisan group, no data contradicts my positions. There is no reason to debate people who have no facts that support their positions.
 
2020-12-05 10:45:18 PM  

I Like Bread: Aquapope: I Like Bread: Rwa2play: ....and it's still a canyon-wide better than the last four years.

In the same way that hypertension is better than a heart attack - but guess what happens when you let hypertension go untreated?

Hypertension is infinitely better than a heart attack.  Hypertension is very treatable and might lead to conditions like a heart attack eventually.  A heart attack is killing you right that very moment and you have a couple of minutes to live.  You need to work on comparisons before the next parent-teacher conference.

You need to work on basic reading comprehension the next time you try to act like a smartass. The operative word in my post was "untreated".


Untreated hypertension doesn't kill you in 90 seconds either, it takes years to progress to cardiac emergency.  So, untreated or not, hypertension isn't any kind of reasonable comparative for a heart attack.  Smoking isn't the same thing as terminal lung cancer and a box of oily rags in the basement isn't the same thing as a burning house.
 
2020-12-05 11:07:29 PM  

Aquapope: Untreated hypertension doesn't kill you in 90 seconds either, it takes years to progress to cardiac emergency.  So, untreated or not, hypertension isn't any kind of reasonable comparative for a heart attack.  Smoking isn't the same thing as terminal lung cancer and a box of oily rags in the basement isn't the same thing as a burning house.


You're not very good at metaphors, are you? I never said the two things are the same, only that one thing is only "better" than the other if inaction doesn't lead from one to the other. One thing's for sure, though - you absolutely will be one of those slobs idly entertaining the idea of eating more vegetables right up until the moment you keel over.
 
2020-12-05 11:22:24 PM  

I Like Bread: Aquapope: Untreated hypertension doesn't kill you in 90 seconds either, it takes years to progress to cardiac emergency.  So, untreated or not, hypertension isn't any kind of reasonable comparative for a heart attack.  Smoking isn't the same thing as terminal lung cancer and a box of oily rags in the basement isn't the same thing as a burning house.

You're not very good at metaphors, are you? I never said the two things are the same, only that one thing is only "better" than the other if inaction doesn't lead from one to the other. One thing's for sure, though - you absolutely will be one of those slobs idly entertaining the idea of eating more vegetables right up until the moment you keel over.


Well, yeah.  Eating more vegetables is actually a very good idea and something almost every American doesn't do enough of.  I wouldn't say I'm idly entertaining the idea, I wholeheartedly endorse the idea.  Are you saying that eating vegetables isn't a good idea, or that I think it will keep you from dying?
 
2020-12-05 11:31:11 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Russ1642: The VP has two responsibilities. 1. Tie breaker in the senate. 2. Be alive.

I'm betting Harris will be given a lot of responsibilities.


I meant constitutional responsibilities. As in, the only job the VP is really there for is to be alive to take over if the president dies.
 
2020-12-06 12:20:41 AM  

gilgigamesh: Alright, this is what we voted for, so it's time to admit it and deal with it. Biden is a gaffe machine, and we are in for four years of him being a rhetorical minefield.

What he clearly meant was that when he was veep, he and Obama had an agreement where he would make an excuse and walk away if they reached a fundamental impasse on governing philosophy. And it'll be the same with him and Harris.

I know that's what he meant. You know it. His Republican enemies know it. But he walked right into that rake, and now we have to deal with the fallout.

We'd best get used to it, because this is gonna keep happening.


"rake"... sounded good to me. I guess my perspective makes that statement sound much more positive than you do and that is okay. The guy is old, he's done his job, now he should get to relax.
 
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2020-12-06 12:20:53 AM  
I don't think they're that misaligned that it'd be much of an issue anywho.
 
2020-12-06 12:32:38 AM  
Her best chance is 2 Biden terms and a strong finish.   There's always this belief that a sea change is permanent.  People sell books when it happens.  It'll flip again.  The other side gets to sell books after that.
 
2020-12-06 4:24:59 AM  
I thought that this was the plan from day one?
 
2020-12-06 5:37:02 AM  

make me some tea: Unlike Trump, Biden is saying he knows how to deliberate with his Administration to reach consensus and delegate when possible.

But hey let's pull out one phrase and make it something it's not amiright?


Hey, the right wing is still claiming Obama doesn't know how many U.S.states there are, simply because he stumbled over his tongue once in an unscripted conversation. Which happens occasionally to EVERYONE who utters more than ten consecutive words -- but that's all they remember.

Biden has been at this for a very long time and he's a very smart guy. He's not defined by the occasional poorly worded off-the-cuff comment, especially when it's taken out of context.
 
2020-12-06 9:19:19 PM  
The guy at Jiffy Lube who changes Harris' oil would be a better president than Trump.

/most anyone Harris sent to jail would probably be a better president than Trump
 
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