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2020-12-05 4:48:09 PM  

Mike_LowELL: Gyrfalcon: Depends...are we nuking Florida first?

Of course.  Any attempt to take over the United States begins begins with securing a large army of alligators that will take free food from anyone trying to stop them.

Just give me like fifteen minutes of warning before the nukes drop.  I'm going to make a fort out of my pillows and blankets.  Maximum protection from nuclear warfare, baby.  Me and my Kaname Chidori body pillow are in this together.

Fart_Machine: It is a bad thing. You don't get the cool mutations for at least a hundred years or so.

On the contrary, you will be playing real-life on the maximum difficulty level, with no food and no water and pretty much everyone holed out every five or so miles with sniper weapons, shooting and killing people for no practical purpose.

I'm guessing you're one of those casuals who wants to play with the "Intact Government" option on.


Fncking casuals.
 
2020-12-05 4:51:57 PM  

DarkDawg: gopher321: 20 years from now: "President AOC".

20? i think withen 10. Depending on two things, how 2024 turns out (if trump wins his second term we could see aoc run in 2028 and win) or if shumer retires or dies there will be calls for aoc to run for ny senate.  But under 20 is my guess. might even be 2024.


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2020-12-05 4:52:29 PM  

italie: I don't have an issue saying that.


I wish every VP had that stance
 
2020-12-05 4:54:08 PM  
Pretty sure he was joking
 
2020-12-05 4:55:32 PM  

frestcrallen: PartTimeBuddha: It's oddly refreshing to be able to immediately dismiss a psychopath. You just went right there.

I don't know what that means.


It means he thinks you wish death upon Biden.  Your comment was ambiguous and he read it as "up there on the list" instead of "up there in age."  In context that's not a reasonable interpretation, but this is Fark.
 
2020-12-05 4:57:38 PM  

PartTimeBuddha: frestcrallen: Don't wish ill-health on anyone, but Biden is up there.

It's oddly refreshing to be able to immediately dismiss a psychopath. You just went right there.


It certainly is, and you certainly did.
 
2020-12-05 4:59:00 PM  

PreMortem: Inaguaration day on the steps, Biden takes the oath then immediatly resigns and Harris steps to Roberts and places her hand on the still-outstretched Bible. Troll factor infinity.


This is exactly how to handle this kind of thing, thank you very much for your demonstration.

/Also that would be awesome.
 
2020-12-05 4:59:15 PM  
so we are going from a president who makes decisive decisions, to a president who is openly admitting that he is going to call in sick and give up when presented with ideas that don't fit his worldview.
 
2020-12-05 5:02:50 PM  

dywed88: NateAsbestos: TwoHead: I disagree. I understood him just fine. The VP serves at the pleasure of the President and politely gets out of the way if needed. It has always been understood to be the case. If people are dumb I don't have to agree with them.

Back in the day, the VP was the presidential runner-up.

The VP does not serve the president.

Of course realized how effing stupid that system of electing the VP was and got rid of it damned fast (after just four elections, only two of which were really contested).

And while, no the VP doesn't technically serve the President, in practice this has been the case. If the VP couldn't work with the President any more it would absolutely be expected that the VP resign.


So, if HalfScoop gets elected in 2024 (Barf), and appoints D2S as VP (Chunder), D2S will be honour-bound to observe unwritten protocol and always defer to DHS?

And D2S would never engineer DHS resigning after 2 years and a day, thereby setting y'all up for 6 years more of D2S for POTUS.

Because D2S has always taken the high moral ground.

You guys and gals have a seriously weird political system...
 
2020-12-05 5:03:30 PM  
The VP has two responsibilities. 1. Tie breaker in the senate. 2. Be alive.
 
2020-12-05 5:05:18 PM  

RI_Red: WithinReason: Snapper Carr: If you want to see a pretty good (albeit fictional) portrayal of a President with an adversarial relationship with his VP. watch the first few seasons of the West Wing.  Bartlett had to put a conservative Democrat from Texas on the ticket and he's constantly sabotaging Bartlett's agenda.  It's always better when POTUS and VPOTUS are on the same page (or at least VPOTUS knows their place)

Which is why President-Elect Biden should appoint trump as the new VP, a sort of compromise to get the rigged election mess cleared up.

trump would keep the prosecution protections from crimes that he currently has, and as VP no one would care that he was golfing every day. Plus trump could hold weekly rallies across the country for his 2024 Presidential run, making it an historical first time a sitting VP ran against a sitting President in an election.

Username most especially does NOT fit.


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2020-12-05 5:06:30 PM  

gilgigamesh: Alright, this is what we voted for, so it's time to admit it and deal with it. Biden is a gaffe machine, and we are in for four years of him being a rhetorical minefield.

What he clearly meant was that when he was veep, he and Obama had an agreement where he would make an excuse and walk away if they reached a fundamental impasse on governing philosophy. And it'll be the same with him and Harris.

I know that's what he meant. You know it. His Republican enemies know it. But he walked right into that rake, and now we have to deal with the fallout.

We'd best get used to it, because this is gonna keep happening.


At least he's not suggesting injecting bleach, or sticking a light up us our asses to cure COVID.

I'll take a gaffe over that idiocy; although this really was not a gaffe, more just a poor a sentence structure.
 
2020-12-05 5:07:06 PM  
I voted for these stooges, but what else was I going to do? 
Great we get two years of Biden, then two to ten more of an extension of the Willie Brown machine. 

We had so many good choices, but nooooooooo.. we need an old white guy!
 
2020-12-05 5:08:42 PM  

recombobulator: It means he thinks you wish death upon Biden.  Your comment was ambiguous and he read it as "up there on the list" instead of "up there in age."  In context that's not a reasonable interpretation, but this is Fark.


Ok, thanks for clarifying.  I thought "up there in age" was pretty evident in context to the rest of my post, but I see the confusion.  Here's my edit:  "I don't wish ill-health on anyone, but Biden is elderly."

It doesn't take much for things to spiral away in crazy directions in these political threads.
 
2020-12-05 5:08:59 PM  
When you type in Google "Biden resign," or "Biden would resign if disagreement," you get tabloids, right papers, or sketchy sites. Most are mocking him, or saying he is joking. I watched the clip, and I don't get what the big deal is. Biden was clearly trying to make a joke, and it didn't really land. Trump spews far worse gaffs.
 
2020-12-05 5:10:07 PM  

Russ1642: The VP has two responsibilities. 1. Tie breaker in the senate. 2. Be alive.


I'm betting Harris will be given a lot of responsibilities.
 
2020-12-05 5:11:22 PM  

PartTimeBuddha: [Fark user image image 768x489]


"I haaad Snoo-Snoo"
 
2020-12-05 5:11:23 PM  

gilgigamesh: Alright, this is what we voted for, so it's time to admit it and deal with it. Biden is a gaffe machine, and we are in for four years of him being a rhetorical minefield.

What he clearly meant was that when he was veep, he and Obama had an agreement where he would make an excuse and walk away if they reached a fundamental impasse on governing philosophy. And it'll be the same with him and Harris.

I know that's what he meant. You know it. His Republican enemies know it. But he walked right into that rake, and now we have to deal with the fallout.

We'd best get used to it, because this is gonna keep happening.


It's just gonna be really weird coming off of four straight gaffe-free years.
 
2020-12-05 5:12:01 PM  
At least he isn't asking for a third term before he has even had a second term, right?
 
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2020-12-05 5:18:07 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Harris was rejected by the voters. She's only a "thing" because she was selected by the Democratic power base. Remember that when people say the voters choose who's in power.


So was Biden in 2008. Your point?
 
2020-12-05 5:23:38 PM  

frestcrallen: recombobulator: It means he thinks you wish death upon Biden.  Your comment was ambiguous and he read it as "up there on the list" instead of "up there in age."  In context that's not a reasonable interpretation, but this is Fark.

Ok, thanks for clarifying.  I thought "up there in age" was pretty evident in context to the rest of my post, but I see the confusion.  Here's my edit:  "I don't wish ill-health on anyone, but Biden is elderly."

It doesn't take much for things to spiral away in crazy directions in these political threads.


I did a double take when I first read the first sentence, but in context I thought it was pretty clear you were talking about his age and the increased risk of a natural death because of it, instead of wishing death on him.  I guess people see what they want to see.
 
2020-12-05 5:27:13 PM  

Original: Original Tweet:

DailyCaller: Joe Biden is asked about his disagreements with Kamala Harris on certain issues: "Like I told Barack, if I reach something where there's a fundamental disagreement we have based on a moral principle, I'll develop some disease and say I have to resign." https://t.co/SLcvrwaPCA


Didn't he push Obama into repealing DADT and opening LGBTQ+ rights on the Federal Level?
 
2020-12-05 5:27:42 PM  
President Harris: tell the White House Chef to make me a sammich
 
2020-12-05 5:30:07 PM  

leeksfromchichis: GardenWeasel: TwoHead: The VP serves at the pleasure of the President and politely gets out of the way if needed. It has always been understood to be the case. If people are dumb I don't have to agree with them.

The VP does not "serve at the pleasure of the President" like a political appointee.

They kinda do. Especially if the president is an old ass man claiming illness in a pandemic. Guess what he could do.


fix the cable?
 
2020-12-05 5:31:45 PM  

MHudson: NateAsbestos: TwoHead: I disagree. I understood him just fine. The VP serves at the pleasure of the President and politely gets out of the way if needed. It has always been understood to be the case. If people are dumb I don't have to agree with them.

Back in the day, the VP was the presidential runner-up.

The VP does not serve the president.

They do, though - it's not "back in the day" anymore.


The president can fire those that serve at his pleasure. Presidents usually request resignations for a little bit of political cover, but the power to fire is certainly there for cabinet secretaries and other political appointees.

The vice president is a constitutional officer in her own right, elected on her own. The president cannot fire the VP any more than he can a member of congress or a governor.

The president can certainly reduce the VP's portfolio beyond her constitutional duties to nothing. But the president cannot stop the VP from presiding over the senate, or force the VP  from office.

Which is exactly the opposite of what "serves at the pleasure" means.
 
2020-12-05 5:32:25 PM  
Maya Rudolph will have work for many years
 
2020-12-05 5:38:54 PM  

GardenWeasel: TwoHead: The VP serves at the pleasure of the President and politely gets out of the way if needed. It has always been understood to be the case. If people are dumb I don't have to agree with them.

The VP does not "serve at the pleasure of the President" like a political appointee.


While true, that basically means he gets to sit in the Senate and preside when he wants to.  The only duties the Constitution prescribes for the VP is that, and being the understudy for the President.  Every other responsibility is "at the pleasure of the President"
 
2020-12-05 5:40:51 PM  

peasandcarrots: Porkbelly: Subidiot apparently reads like a trumper, i.e., at a third grade level, er, turd grade level.

They were smart enough to submit a Twitter link because a Daily Caller link would never get greenlit. That site is a plague.


The butthurt level is rising fast and apparently spilling over onto Fark.
 
2020-12-05 5:45:29 PM  
Oh who the hell cares. Sounded to me like a rhetorical statement meant to illicit a chuckle, and it fell flat.

And really, even it he meant it as said, who the hell cares? They're both well aligned on all the big issues, they're both experienced and competent, and we all knew damned well we were electing a really old dude during a deadly pandemic who might not make it 4 years.

All I really give a shiat about right now is that we have a couple of DECENT people about to waltz into the White House. No one is ever going to please everyone on policy positions, but I genuinely feel that Biden has zero interest in consolidating a dynastic family control on the planet, and that whatever choices he makes will align by and large with his moral center.

The farkleheads we have in there right now have no moral center. None at all, and anyone who claims otherwise is as culpable for Trumpian evil as are the Trumps.
 
2020-12-05 5:51:07 PM  

gilgigamesh: Alright, this is what we voted for, so it's time to admit it and deal with it. Biden is a gaffe machine, and we are in for four years of him being a rhetorical minefield.

What he clearly meant was that when he was veep, he and Obama had an agreement where he would make an excuse and walk away if they reached a fundamental impasse on governing philosophy. And it'll be the same with him and Harris.

I know that's what he meant. You know it. His Republican enemies know it. But he walked right into that rake, and now we have to deal with the fallout.

We'd best get used to it, because this is gonna keep happening.


I don't think you need to interpret it, that's exactly what he says in the quote. Or am I missing something? 🤔
 
2020-12-05 5:53:06 PM  
the daily caller is a garbage site.  Subby,don't be garbage.
 
2020-12-05 5:55:40 PM  

Russ1642: The VP has two responsibilities. 1. Tie breaker in the senate. 2. Be alive.


Doesn't the President of the Senate also wield some turtle like control on the order of business done too?

Calling the result of voice votes at least.
 
2020-12-05 6:01:55 PM  

leeksfromchichis: He can just step down.Then the VP loses the V and becomes full P.  Most VPs would like that, I bet, but what if they didn't and just wanted to coast as vp?  Their potus would have a sword of damacles over their head for four years.


Seeing as how the VP is a POC, shouldn't we worry about the GOP in the KKK? 'Cause if they all believe Q she could end up MIA, and then we'd all be SOL.
 
2020-12-05 6:05:04 PM  
I don't trust a Daily Caller link.
 
2020-12-05 6:07:49 PM  

gilgigamesh: Alright, this is what we voted for, so it's time to admit it and deal with it. Biden is a gaffe machine, and we are in for four years of him being a rhetorical minefield.

What he clearly meant was that when he was veep, he and Obama had an agreement where he would make an excuse and walk away if they reached a fundamental impasse on governing philosophy. And it'll be the same with him and Harris.

I know that's what he meant. You know it. His Republican enemies know it. But he walked right into that rake, and now we have to deal with the fallout.

We'd best get used to it, because this is gonna keep happening.


There is no "rake". He made what we like to call "a joke".
 
2020-12-05 6:08:49 PM  

KingOfTown: leeksfromchichis: He can just step down.Then the VP loses the V and becomes full P.  Most VPs would like that, I bet, but what if they didn't and just wanted to coast as vp?  Their potus would have a sword of damacles over their head for four years.

Seeing as how the VP is a POC, shouldn't we worry about the GOP in the KKK? 'Cause if they all believe Q she could end up MIA, and then we'd all be SOL.


Harvey & Sheila
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2020-12-05 6:10:33 PM  
Subby is just terrified that President Black Lady is gonna turn him KWEEEEEEERRR!
 
2020-12-05 6:15:16 PM  

TwoHead: The VP serves at the pleasure of the President


Oh hell no. The VP is elected and can only be removed via impeachment or resignation.

(However, the VP also has basically no constitutional power, so can be sidelined at the pleasure of the president.)
 
2020-12-05 6:18:25 PM  

yakmans_dad: KingOfTown: leeksfromchichis: He can just step down.Then the VP loses the V and becomes full P.  Most VPs would like that, I bet, but what if they didn't and just wanted to coast as vp?  Their potus would have a sword of damacles over their head for four years.

Seeing as how the VP is a POC, shouldn't we worry about the GOP in the KKK? 'Cause if they all believe Q she could end up MIA, and then we'd all be SOL.

[YouTube video: Harvey & Sheila]


I was going for Cronauer, but illallowit.jpg

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2020-12-05 6:18:27 PM  
Is it wrong that this is what I secretly hope for, if not just to hear the millions of cries from the Trumpublicans that will suddenly be silenced.
 
2020-12-05 6:23:32 PM  

rjakobi: I'm fine with this as long I get that COVID vaccine.


I'll race you for it.  Manual wheelchairs over 50 yards.
 
2020-12-05 6:24:19 PM  

Zagloba: TwoHead: The VP serves at the pleasure of the President

Oh hell no. The VP is elected and can only be removed via impeachment or resignation.

(However, the VP also has basically no constitutional power, so can be sidelined at the pleasure of the president.)


While I would typically agree with you, 2020's been one hell of a year.  What happens if one seat goes to each party in Georgia ?  That's right - Vice President Harris becomes the tiebreaker veep.
 
2020-12-05 6:26:41 PM  

leeksfromchichis: GardenWeasel: TwoHead: The VP serves at the pleasure of the President and politely gets out of the way if needed. It has always been understood to be the case. If people are dumb I don't have to agree with them.

The VP does not "serve at the pleasure of the President" like a political appointee.

They kinda do. Especially if the president is an old ass man claiming illness in a pandemic. Guess what he could do.


Now that you mention it, The President is an old ass man who is claiming illness in a pandemic.
 
2020-12-05 6:28:21 PM  

positronica: The only areas where the VP can act unilaterally are when executing the powers granted to the VP by the constitution, namely casting tie breaking votes in the senate, and making decisions concerning the 25th amendment. Any other role the VP fills in an administration is at the pleasure of the president.


P can't dismiss VP but he can give him no authority to do anything (other than two cases mentioned).
 
2020-12-05 6:29:37 PM  

C18H27NO3: [i.redd.it image 850x918]


It's staggering that the actions of a US president could be so remarkably dangerous and irresponsible without whole-scale outcry.

AJC: Georgia Hospitals Already Pushing Capacity

He does not give a shiat if people die. And all just to give this piece of shiat one of his ego-orgies.
 
2020-12-05 6:31:37 PM  

gameshowhost: gopher321: 20 years from now: "President AOC".

White Moderate™ Dems will cockblock that.


Won't be any left in 20 years, they'll all be dead or disabled due to cannabis overdoses.
 
2020-12-05 6:34:12 PM  

Russ1642: The VP has two responsibilities. 1. Tie breaker in the senate. 2. Be alive.


3. Sign unlimited pardon if POTUS resigns.
 
2020-12-05 6:34:54 PM  

Original: Original Tweet:

DailyCaller: Joe Biden is asked about his disagreements with Kamala Harris on certain issues: "Like I told Barack, if I reach something where there's a fundamental disagreement we have based on a moral principle, I'll develop some disease and say I have to resign." https://t.co/SLcvrwaPCA


I wandered around the Twitter thread and there are wa-a-a-ay too many commenters who seem to be projecting One Term Whiner's faults onto Biden.
 
2020-12-05 6:37:23 PM  

recombobulator: I guess people see what they want to see.


When I have political discussions with friends, we all know each other, and so we can speak in shorthand.  I forget sometimes that when you're posting on a forum, everything needs to be spelled out in exact language to prevent misinterpretation.

But misinterpretation generally happens anyway.
 
2020-12-05 6:37:31 PM  

gopher321: 20 years from now: "President AOC".


The GOP Cult is already grifting off that boogeyman.
 
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