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2020-12-04 9:51:40 PM  
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2020-12-04 10:02:31 PM  
You can almost hear Stevie Miller hisssing in the background.
 
2020-12-04 10:28:10 PM  
Looking forward to fumigating the White House, possibly a tenting to clear out all the Nazi germs carried by Stephen Miller and the stank of massive dumps by DiaperDon.

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2020-12-05 12:25:35 AM  
Sadly meaningless. There's no way DHS will comply.
 
2020-12-05 1:06:59 AM  

fnordfocus: Sadly meaningless. There's no way DHS will comply.


End DHS.
 
2020-12-05 1:12:30 AM  

hubiestubert: You can almost hear Stevie Miller hisssing in the background.


Now drag him into daylight. We can finally rid ourselves of Rogaine Nosferatu during his moment of weakness!

Or just pull him in front of a truck. Whatever rids us of him. I don't care. So long as he's gone.
 
2020-12-05 1:12:31 AM  
Thank God.
 
2020-12-05 1:13:35 AM  

Alphax: fnordfocus: Sadly meaningless. There's no way DHS will comply.

End DHS.


This.  We literally don't need them.  Build a new agency and get rid of this racist relic.
 
2020-12-05 1:24:44 AM  
Trump loses harder than any President in US history.
 
2020-12-05 1:29:52 AM  

austerity101: Alphax: fnordfocus: Sadly meaningless. There's no way DHS will comply.

End DHS.

This.  We literally don't need them.  Build a new agency and get rid of this racist relic.


We did not have a DHS prior to September 11, 2001.  Or a Patriot Act, for that matter.  The first act of the Democratic House, Senate, and White house on January 21st 2009 should have been an omnibus "Undo the entire Bush II administration" bill.
 
2020-12-05 1:37:20 AM  

DogParkSniper: hubiestubert: You can almost hear Stevie Miller hisssing in the background.

Now drag him into daylight. We can finally rid ourselves of Rogaine Nosferatu during his moment of weakness!

Or just pull him in front of a truck. Whatever rids us of him. I don't care. So long as he's gone.


I prefer Brad Pitt shows up at the inauguration with his Inglourious Basterds buck knife.
 
2020-12-05 1:47:29 AM  

flondrix: austerity101: Alphax: fnordfocus: Sadly meaningless. There's no way DHS will comply.

End DHS.

This.  We literally don't need them.  Build a new agency and get rid of this racist relic.

We did not have a DHS prior to September 11, 2001.  Or a Patriot Act, for that matter.  The first act of the Democratic House, Senate, and White house on January 21st 2009 should have been an omnibus "Undo the entire Bush II administration" bill.


DHS is one of those short-road-to-hell ideas that was whizzed through Congress in 2001 because it sounded so good. Because of the way the FBI, CIA, and NSA dropped their various balls (and for reasons not entirely their faults) prior to 9/11, it was decided there needed to be an umbrella agency that all the alphabet agencies would report to, that would assemble all their reports into one easy to understand master portfolio and be able to present it at a moment's notice to all involved.

That lasted about a week and a half.

Instead what we got was even MORE conflicting and competing agencies, laws, regulations and layers of departments that couldn't report directly to each other without legal shielding; rinse and repeat.

We need to rewind to 9/10/2011 and  start all over again.
 
2020-12-05 1:48:16 AM  
Darmok and Jalad on the ocean.

Mirab, with sails unfurled.

Sokath, his eyes opened.
 
2020-12-05 1:51:23 AM  

stoli n coke: DogParkSniper: hubiestubert: You can almost hear Stevie Miller hisssing in the background.

Now drag him into daylight. We can finally rid ourselves of Rogaine Nosferatu during his moment of weakness!

Or just pull him in front of a truck. Whatever rids us of him. I don't care. So long as he's gone.

I prefer Brad Pitt shows up at the inauguration with his Inglourious Basterds buck knife.


I say we stuff him full of green cards and drop him into a refugee caravan with a sign that says, "contengo tarjetas verdes estadounidenses; por favor ábreme y desecha mi cuerpo." Then sit back and let nature do its thing.
 
2020-12-05 1:51:50 AM  

Gyrfalcon: flondrix: austerity101: Alphax: fnordfocus: Sadly meaningless. There's no way DHS will comply.

End DHS.

This.  We literally don't need them.  Build a new agency and get rid of this racist relic.

We did not have a DHS prior to September 11, 2001.  Or a Patriot Act, for that matter.  The first act of the Democratic House, Senate, and White house on January 21st 2009 should have been an omnibus "Undo the entire Bush II administration" bill.

DHS is one of those short-road-to-hell ideas that was whizzed through Congress in 2001 because it sounded so good. Because of the way the FBI, CIA, and NSA dropped their various balls (and for reasons not entirely their faults) prior to 9/11, it was decided there needed to be an umbrella agency that all the alphabet agencies would report to, that would assemble all their reports into one easy to understand master portfolio and be able to present it at a moment's notice to all involved.

That lasted about a week and a half.

Instead what we got was even MORE conflicting and competing agencies, laws, regulations and layers of departments that couldn't report directly to each other without legal shielding; rinse and repeat.

We need to rewind to 9/10/2011 and  start all over again.


10 Sept, 2011 - State of Emergency in Texas
President Barack Obama declares a state of emergency in the state of Texas, amid wildfires that have already destroyed at least 1,300 homes.
 
2020-12-05 1:53:25 AM  

Alphax: fnordfocus: Sadly meaningless. There's no way DHS will comply.

End DHS.


Agreed.

Totally throws off my sleep cycle
 
2020-12-05 2:01:48 AM  

PaulRB: Looking forward to fumigating the White House, possibly a tenting to clear out all the Nazi germs carried by Stephen Miller and the stank of massive dumps by DiaperDon.

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At this stage, Biden should have the White House razed, then replaced. The WH is probably filled with Russian bugs and COVID germs anyways. It is also a shame that the Rose Garden was razed.
 
2020-12-05 2:04:15 AM  

Palined Parenthood: Gyrfalcon: flondrix: austerity101: Alphax: fnordfocus: Sadly meaningless. There's no way DHS will comply.

End DHS.

This.  We literally don't need them.  Build a new agency and get rid of this racist relic.

We did not have a DHS prior to September 11, 2001.  Or a Patriot Act, for that matter.  The first act of the Democratic House, Senate, and White house on January 21st 2009 should have been an omnibus "Undo the entire Bush II administration" bill.

DHS is one of those short-road-to-hell ideas that was whizzed through Congress in 2001 because it sounded so good. Because of the way the FBI, CIA, and NSA dropped their various balls (and for reasons not entirely their faults) prior to 9/11, it was decided there needed to be an umbrella agency that all the alphabet agencies would report to, that would assemble all their reports into one easy to understand master portfolio and be able to present it at a moment's notice to all involved.

That lasted about a week and a half.

Instead what we got was even MORE conflicting and competing agencies, laws, regulations and layers of departments that couldn't report directly to each other without legal shielding; rinse and repeat.

We need to rewind to2001 goddamnit and  start all over again.

10 Sept, 2011 - State of Emergency in Texas
President Barack Obama declares a state of emergency in the state of Texas, amid wildfires that have already destroyed at least 1,300 homes.


FTFM I'm on a computer, I can't blame the autocorrect for that one.
 
2020-12-05 2:23:12 AM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Trump loses harder than any President in US history.


Well, he DID say we'd he tried of winning, just not the way he meant it.
 
2020-12-05 2:29:28 AM  

fnordfocus: Sadly meaningless. There's no way DHS will comply.


New applicants at the DHS counter will find Kentucky Klerk Kim Davis has been hired.

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2020-12-05 2:34:48 AM  
Congress needs to make this a priority (right after Covid) to actually lock legislation in place,
 
2020-12-05 2:34:55 AM  

jaytkay: fnordfocus: Sadly meaningless. There's no way DHS will comply.

New applicants at the DHS counter will find Kentucky Klerk Kim Davis has been hired.

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2020-12-05 2:45:57 AM  

stoli n coke: DogParkSniper: hubiestubert: You can almost hear Stevie Miller hisssing in the background.

Now drag him into daylight. We can finally rid ourselves of Rogaine Nosferatu during his moment of weakness!

Or just pull him in front of a truck. Whatever rids us of him. I don't care. So long as he's gone.

I prefer Brad Pitt shows up at the inauguration with his Inglourious Basterds buck knife.


Is it too late to nominate The Bear Jew?
 
2020-12-05 2:50:58 AM  
Quite a few people who are 1st gen immigrants that I know are firmly against this. "Got my own, fark you" is something they could not unlearn while in the US. Rather shameful.
 
2020-12-05 2:54:39 AM  

hubiestubert: You can almost hear Stevie Miller hisssing in the background.


Keep on rocking' me baby.


/ this crappy joke brought to by the effort to fully replace the current Nazi Steve Miller with the old rocking Steve Miller
 
2020-12-05 3:02:04 AM  

jaytkay: fnordfocus: Sadly meaningless. There's no way DHS will comply.

New applicants at the DHS counter will find Kentucky Klerk Kim Davis has been hired.

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Don't give Stephen Miller any more ideas!
 
2020-12-05 3:20:56 AM  

Snapper Carr: Congress needs to make this a priority (right after Covid) to actually lock legislation in place,


Yep. This. Smartest comment on the thread tonight. The legislature needs to pass a law instead of the executive branch dictating. I support the intent of DACA, but I've suffered through too many journalists shrieking "it's an attack on the rule of law" over the last four years to accept that it's ok to ignore the law if it's "for the right reasons". Just do the right thing the right way and people will get behind it.
 
2020-12-05 3:28:29 AM  
Why would the same dhs that complied with DACA under Obama and followed court rulings on DACA throughout Trump not follow this ruling? That they already attempted various suspensions of DACA and then lost in court shows they are, at the very least, only attempting legal system means to not follow DACA. To simply ignore the order goes against their own history here.

Maybe if Trump won?, but knowing Biden is coming it doesn't make sense they wouldn't follow this ruling. Everyone who chose not to could easily be fired under Biden. They'll all throw away their jobs for this? Seems unlikely.

These are still primarily career employees, and even if they personally didn't want to, how are they going to charge anyone with deportation who meets DACA in any meaningful way? No prosecutor will uphold anything violating a judge's order, nor will immigration judges. It isn't like ICE or CBP can skip the court system on anyone DACA would apply to. They only get that option with voluntary returns and expedited removals; people that applies to are the opposite end of the spectrum from DACA: new arrivals with a short US presence.

Finally, their current covid restriction is basically not to arrest anyone who doesn't have significant criminal history. In Michigan right now they are just taking names down and tossing them in a database, then advising and releasing people they encounter.

I guess we'll see.

/This assumes the headline is correct. Incognito mode didn't cut it for this article
 
2020-12-05 4:25:22 AM  
There goes Steve Bannon's legacy.
 
2020-12-05 6:46:30 AM  

Alphax: fnordfocus: Sadly meaningless. There's no way DHS will comply.

End DHS.


I've been saying this since the day it was established and they announced what the name would be. The whole "homeland" thing carries a goosestepping vibe I despise.

Just dissolve the whole damn thing, remove one chair from the Cabinet table, and return the various agencies to where they used to be -- and where they worked JUST FINE, thank you very much.
 
2020-12-05 8:25:26 AM  
These people trusted us when DACA first became a thing. They willingly signed up, told us who and where they were, with the agreement that we'd protect them and give them a path to come out of the shadows.

Then Trump and the Republicans came in, and used that list to start deportation proceedings on the very people that were trying to do things the legal way, like they always claimed they wanted.

I wouldn't trust us and this new reinstatement at all. They know they're going to be stabbed in the back the first chance Republicans get and the Democrats are too much of spineless weenies to do anything about it.
 
2020-12-05 8:30:20 AM  
DACA won't be restored until Biden takes over. All the rulings in the world can't force the Trump administration to stop deporting people. Because it turns out "checks and balances" don't actually exist.
 
2020-12-05 8:55:39 AM  

jaytkay: fnordfocus: Sadly meaningless. There's no way DHS will comply.

New applicants at the DHS counter will find Kentucky Klerk Kim Davis has been hired.

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Wasn't she married about five times? For five people this person was an ideal mate?

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2020-12-05 8:57:18 AM  

Evil Mackerel: jaytkay: fnordfocus: Sadly meaningless. There's no way DHS will comply.

New applicants at the DHS counter will find Kentucky Klerk Kim Davis has been hired.

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Wasn't she married about five times? For five people this person was an ideal mate?

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Possibly the only woman available..
 
2020-12-05 9:08:01 AM  
So? When the Fark has the law ever stop ICE?
 
2020-12-05 10:48:26 AM  

Alphax: Evil Mackerel: jaytkay: fnordfocus: Sadly meaningless. There's no way DHS will comply.

New applicants at the DHS counter will find Kentucky Klerk Kim Davis has been hired.

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Wasn't she married about five times? For five people this person was an ideal mate?

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Possibly the only woman available..


If I'm remembering correctly, she has been married three times, and husbands #1 & #3 were the same guy.  So, yeah, probably slim pickings around the trailer park.
 
2020-12-05 11:37:21 AM  

PaulRB: Looking forward to fumigating the White House, possibly a tenting to clear out all the Nazi germs carried by Stephen Miller and the stank of massive dumps by DiaperDon.

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And pull down those gold lame curtains.  It's not a whore house anymore!
 
2020-12-05 12:40:08 PM  

Man with the Red Eyes: If I'm remembering correctly, she has been married three times, and husbands #1 & #3 were the same guy.  So, yeah, probably slim pickings around the trailer park.


And there was some overlap of having kids with one while married to the other.

Conservative royalty.
 
2020-12-05 2:53:24 PM  

Gyrfalcon: DHS is one of those short-road-to-hell ideas that was whizzed through Congress in 2001 because it sounded so good. Because of the way the FBI, CIA, and NSA dropped their various balls (and for reasons not entirely their faults) prior to 9/11, it was decided there needed to be an umbrella agency that all the alphabet agencies would report to, that would assemble all their reports into one easy to understand master portfolio and be able to present it at a moment's notice to all involved.

That lasted about a week and a half.

Instead what we got was even MORE conflicting and competing agencies, laws, regulations and layers of departments that couldn't report directly to each other without legal shielding; rinse and repeat.


What struck me as dumb at the time was that we already had people in the White House with roles that could have been slightly expanded (with some very minor increases in staffing) to fill any actual gaps that 9/11 exposed. A whole new department was guaranteed to fail in exactly the way you note. I was in farking high school at the time and could tell that was gonna happen.

Of course, if your goals aren't just to fix those problems, but instead to create opportunities for power-games to achieve other ends, and for corrupt dealing to enrich oneself and others (much easier when you've just created an entire department, with a budget, from scratch and gotten to pick all the key people) then it makes perfect sense.
 
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