Skip to content
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(The Monitor)   Well, that's refreshing. An actual consequence, at least potentially   (themonitor.com) divider line
    More: Followup, American football, Edinburg High School football player, High school football, Game, Play, referee Thursday night, Emmanuel Duron, Fred Gracia  
•       •       •

1020 clicks; posted to Sports » on 05 Dec 2020 at 1:50 AM (6 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



23 Comments     (+0 »)
 
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest
 
2020-12-04 6:24:32 PM  
We'll see. He's 18, they should pursue it. Given the other thread, it seems this kid is a serial problem. You can fix it now or fix it later.

I've got an old Air Force buddy who referees youth soccer. It's getting harder and harder for him to continue given the general abuse by parents and fans towards the players and refs. Kids pick up on it and try to abuse the refs as well.
 
2020-12-05 5:09:48 AM  
His parents should be publicly shamed too
 
2020-12-05 5:25:05 AM  
If he doesn't find a way to fix his fragile ego this is just the beginning.
 
2020-12-05 6:29:12 AM  
Wasn't the team punished too? Which should serve as a warning to teams with bad seeds.
 
2020-12-05 7:33:31 AM  

Charles of York: His parents should be publicly shamed too


can we stop with the public shaming. no reason i should know anything about this kid or his family
 
2020-12-05 8:05:14 AM  

thesharkman: Wasn't the team punished too? Which should serve as a warning to teams with bad seeds.


Yeah, I don't care about the story enough to read all the articles or anything...

I think it's a good idea to have done so, but I also can't really blame the team TOO much. Who the hell expects that to happen? Even when he runs back on the field, you maybe expect some yelling (which is why they matched speeds, to pull him away when he got there)...bit not that.

I know dumb people will take exception to the comparison, but it's kinda like the people that blame any part of 9/11 on the people in the plane for letting people take over the plane with box cutters. Every hijacking to that point was basically "hey, take this plane somewhere else and land it and give us stuff". No one on those planes knew flying into a building was an option.

/side note: this is why all the TSA theater is unnecessary; now that passengers know death is a likely result of inaction, you can't just take over a plane that way
//and now if someone runs back on the field after an ejection, their team will stop them
 
2020-12-05 8:11:10 AM  
This kid has issues.

I hope he gets some help.

I hate group punishment but in this case, the message has to be sent.  I'm glad the team was removed.
 
2020-12-05 8:41:27 AM  

Gerrok: If he doesn't find a way to fix his fragile ego this is just the beginning.


Hey - he is only emulating the President of the United States by his actions.
If you lose, you don't accept it - you attack those who have officiated your loss.
You can be sure that there are adults around this kid virtue signalling that Trump is an acceptable person, and that his behavior is laudable. This is what that adult example teaches.
This is the kind of behavior you get when you allow filth like Trump and the GOP into leadership positions. You get a poisoned nation, of stupid animals.
 
2020-12-05 9:35:17 AM  

thesharkman: Wasn't the team punished too? Which should serve as a warning to teams with bad seeds.


Yup, they are gone from the playoffs even though they won that game.  This stupid fark cost that team a potential Texas high school football championship which seems to be a pretty important thing for everyone involved.

This kid will be a pariah in his community forever.  I do feel for his folks since they're going to be reminded of it also as long as they live there.  "Oh, wasn't your son that ruined our championship season back in '20".
 
2020-12-05 9:42:26 AM  

jso2897: Gerrok: If he doesn't find a way to fix his fragile ego this is just the beginning.

Hey - he is only emulating the President of the United States by his actions.
If you lose, you don't accept it - you attack those who have officiated your loss.
You can be sure that there are adults around this kid virtue signalling that Trump is an acceptable person, and that his behavior is laudable. This is what that adult example teaches.
This is the kind of behavior you get when you allow filth like Trump and the GOP into leadership positions. You get a poisoned nation, of stupid animals.


It's a risk to draw such a difficult-to-prove line of causality, but I can't help but see how the effect is manifesting everywhere.  I work for a federal agency that skews extremely GOPer-friendly.  Delusion and a disconnect between action and consequences resulting from delusion is the rule.  Cynics might say thst's always been there, but where before it was the exception, now it's just a day ending in y.  Instructions and messaging for projects are imprecise, conflicting, and clearly made by people who are unqualified, no longer care, or put absolutely no thought into it because they know no consquences will come to them personally.  Each level experiences (and expects) the level above as apathetic and self-inflicted-ly clueless, so everyone is racing to try to compensate or get out of the way, leading to trickle-down incompetence.

Every day feels like the first five minutes of Pearl Harbor where everything from the day prior is gone and there's a panicked rush to react.  No executing, no planning, only reacting.

/rant off
 
2020-12-05 10:22:27 AM  
Until someone hits him in the knees and shreds all his ligaments, my blood lust will not be satisfied.  And I want the hand of his parents that should have paddled him amputated.  Then we will have justice.
 
151
2020-12-05 11:57:36 AM  

bfh0417: jso2897: Gerrok: If he doesn't find a way to fix his fragile ego this is just the beginning.

Hey - he is only emulating the President of the United States by his actions.
If you lose, you don't accept it - you attack those who have officiated your loss.
You can be sure that there are adults around this kid virtue signalling that Trump is an acceptable person, and that his behavior is laudable. This is what that adult example teaches.
This is the kind of behavior you get when you allow filth like Trump and the GOP into leadership positions. You get a poisoned nation, of stupid animals.

Hillary started it.


You lost farkboy. Get over it.
 
2020-12-05 12:10:41 PM  

bfh0417: jso2897: Gerrok: If he doesn't find a way to fix his fragile ego this is just the beginning.

Hey - he is only emulating the President of the United States by his actions.
If you lose, you don't accept it - you attack those who have officiated your loss.
You can be sure that there are adults around this kid virtue signalling that Trump is an acceptable person, and that his behavior is laudable. This is what that adult example teaches.
This is the kind of behavior you get when you allow filth like Trump and the GOP into leadership positions. You get a poisoned nation, of stupid animals.

Hillary started it.


Show your evidence that the two are consistent with one-another and then which represents a break from the historical pattern. Oh wait I forgot, evidence isn't really the forte of your ilk.  You're more a strong opinions person.
 
2020-12-05 12:23:53 PM  
Haha, he's sucking on a pacifier.
 
2020-12-05 1:28:03 PM  
One of the consequences is that the ref and school board members will get death threats.   It's the Texas way.   The coach will probably have to leave town.   The kid will go to some JC for a year or two and end up at 'Bama and eventually go to the Ravens or Raiders.
 
2020-12-05 1:30:25 PM  

bfh0417: Warrior Kermit: Charles of York: His parents should be publicly shamed too

can we stop with the public shaming. no reason i should know anything about this kid or his family

It's the hip lib way. Cancel everybody.

Unless it's Alyssa Milano and her buddy Joe. Then, it's "different". Because, reasons.

This kid will get his punishment. But libs gotta clutch them pearls and show how superior they are.


You sound triggered, snowflake.
 
2020-12-05 1:36:55 PM  

IAmRight: thesharkman: Wasn't the team punished too? Which should serve as a warning to teams with bad seeds.

Yeah, I don't care about the story enough to read all the articles or anything...

I think it's a good idea to have done so, but I also can't really blame the team TOO much. Who the hell expects that to happen? Even when he runs back on the field, you maybe expect some yelling (which is why they matched speeds, to pull him away when he got there)...bit not that.

I know dumb people will take exception to the comparison, but it's kinda like the people that blame any part of 9/11 on the people in the plane for letting people take over the plane with box cutters. Every hijacking to that point was basically "hey, take this plane somewhere else and land it and give us stuff". No one on those planes knew flying into a building was an option.

/side note: this is why all the TSA theater is unnecessary; now that passengers know death is a likely result of inaction, you can't just take over a plane that way
//and now if someone runs back on the field after an ejection, their team will stop them


His teammates don't deserve to be punished so much, but the coaches and school do. He's apparently had similar incidents before and seems like a classic example of "let the star players get away with anything within legal possibility" mindset that's basically a cliche in these programs.

I could be wrong, and maybe he's got mental health issues and/or trauma at home that the school has been helping him work on. But if he did attack a ref last year in a soccer game, as a lot of articles seem to vaguely report, then he really shouldn't have been allowed back on the field without serious counseling that showed results. A kid with issues who works them out to succeed in a sport is a much better story than a ticking time bomb left unattended.
 
2020-12-05 3:21:21 PM  
If only that Ref had respected him, this tragedy could have been avoided.
 
2020-12-05 3:24:15 PM  

BunkyBrewman: I do feel for his folks since they're going to be reminded of it also as long as they live there.


Uh, odds are that his worldview didn't develop in a vacuum.
 
2020-12-05 3:32:41 PM  

edmo: We'll see. He's 18, they should pursue it. Given the other thread, it seems this kid is a serial problem. You can fix it now or fix it later.

I've got an old Air Force buddy who referees youth soccer. It's getting harder and harder for him to continue given the general abuse by parents and fans towards the players and refs. Kids pick up on it and try to abuse the refs as well.


Buddy is a umpire, he may or may not be armed when he's umpiring. Got assaulted one year because parent didn't like a call.
 
2020-12-05 3:37:00 PM  
I don't think ruining his whole life is called for here. I think this should mark the end of his high school athletic participation. Once he's out of high school then he should be free to play in college if any college wants him. Just because he's a star in high school doesn't mean he'll make it in college sports.

Since he's 18 from what I read, he should face the same kind of criminal charges and sentence that any adult would face when guilty of physically attacking someone. I would not be in favor of an argument that the punishment to his sporting life means he's paid the price. What he did was a crime and that's a separate price to pay.
 
2020-12-05 4:33:39 PM  
The first time I officiated a high school game in Texas, when coming off the field at the end of the game, there were three armed cops to escort the officiating team.

This was apparently standard MO.  New to me, though.

We're also instructed that when an assault of that severity occurs, because there is no guarantee the perp does not have like-minded friends on the side line, and coaching staff can do only so much, the game is over.  Let the league sort it out.
 
2020-12-05 6:41:58 PM  
I retired from officiating. The parents just took it out of me. I miss it from time to time but then something will remind me why. Especially now that everyone has a video camera and they forward me a 1 second clip of a 15 second play and ask what I was thinking.

It was fun while it lasted and mad respect to those who put on the stripes and enjoy the best seat in the house.
 
Displayed 23 of 23 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking





On Twitter



  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.