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2020-12-04 9:17:35 AM  
I met her in a swamp down in Dagobah where it bubbles all the time like a giant carbonated soda.

/yet another song I learned from Weird Al first
 
2020-12-04 10:11:19 AM  

NikolaiFarkoff: I met her in a swamp down in Dagobah where it bubbles all the time like a giant carbonated soda.

/yet another song I learned from Weird Al first


That's the first song I ever remember raucously singing with other groups of nerds.

/and many, many times
 
2020-12-04 10:39:57 AM  
Girls will be boys and boys will be girls.
 
2020-12-04 11:34:06 AM  
She's a classic
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2020-12-04 11:35:30 AM  
Very nice.

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2020-12-04 11:39:03 AM  
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2020-12-04 11:39:19 AM  
Met a girl called Lola and took her back to my place.


Destroyer
Youtube j2Gd9emhTjo


/It's not theft if you're ripping yourself off
//despite what Saul Zaentz may have thought.
 
2020-12-04 11:50:03 AM  
Love the song.  For years I took the final line to mean "I'm glad I'm a man and so was Lola" also a man.

And then it occurred to me that it could also be interpreted to mean "I'm glad I'm a man and so was Lola" also glad that I am a man.

Ambiguity in a song about sexual ambiguity.  How meta!
 
2020-12-04 11:54:37 AM  
Whatever Lola wants
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2020-12-04 11:54:54 AM  
I know a 20 something trans dude who got very upset when he first heard the song. He called me to rail about the inherent transphobia, etc. It took me a while, but I got him to realize that it was a fairly positive song and that Lola is respected by the narrator and by Mr. Davies. Kids today...
 
2020-12-04 12:09:35 PM  
Zapp Brannigan Singing Leela
Youtube qZvIhhcAoRU


EL-EE-EE-EL-AY LEEELA
LEE-LEE-LEE LE-LEE-LAAAA
 
2020-12-04 12:25:06 PM  

whither_apophis: Whatever Lola wants
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Whatever Lola Wants, Damn Yankees.
Youtube 6kjQmgm0r4g
 
2020-12-04 12:25:06 PM  
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She wanted to bear my children, back in the day.
 
2020-12-04 12:32:50 PM  
Of course she's still got it - music and passion are always in fashion.
 
2020-12-04 1:01:49 PM  
Love the long, but it always seemed like the old joke about accidentally hooking up with a trans. Hardly an early LGBTQ anthem.
 
2020-12-04 1:02:11 PM  

Paul Hackett: Love the long, but it always seemed like the old joke about accidentally hooking up with a trans. Hardly an early LGBTQ anthem.


*song
 
2020-12-04 1:07:52 PM  
She smokes too much
 
2020-12-04 1:09:05 PM  
Fatal Instinct (6/12) Movie CLIP - You Smoke Too Much (1993) HD
Youtube vPs5yv77m9Y
 
2020-12-04 1:16:59 PM  

LewDux: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/vPs5yv77​m9Y?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]


Her Smoketoomuch? No, he Smoketoomuch.
Monty Python - Mr. Smokestoomuch Legendado PtBr (Live at the Hollywood Bowl, 1982)
Youtube qz7QhiYhaE0
 
Ant
2020-12-04 1:20:13 PM  
What a 50 year old Lola may look like:
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2020-12-04 1:30:51 PM  

Paul Hackett: Paul Hackett: Love the long, but it always seemed like the old joke about accidentally hooking up with a trans. Hardly an early LGBTQ anthem.

*song


It was a crazy, mixed-up, muddled up World back then.
 
2020-12-04 1:36:36 PM  
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2020-12-04 1:44:29 PM  
Love the song and the Kinks.
Otherwise I have nothing witty or smart to add to the thread. But you already knew that.
 
2020-12-04 1:48:30 PM  

hoyt clagwell: Love the song.  For years I took the final line to mean "I'm glad I'm a man and so was Lola" also a man.

And then it occurred to me that it could also be interpreted to mean "I'm glad I'm a man and so was Lola" also glad that I am a man.

Ambiguity in a song about sexual ambiguity.  How meta!


Paul Hackett: Love the long, but it always seemed like the old joke about accidentally hooking up with a trans. Hardly an early LGBTQ anthem.


In 1970, when it came out, gays everywhere saw went bananas. They were 100% convinced that it meant Lola was a man.

If you apply rules of grammar, the subject of the sentence is 'being glad' the singer is a man. Not that there are two subjects in the sentence - the singer being glad that he's a man, and that Lola is a man too.
 
2020-12-04 1:51:19 PM  

TommyDeuce: Girls will be boys and boys will be girls.


Marlene Dietrich : Boys will be Boys
Youtube JLEp7QCnJ-c
 
2020-12-04 1:57:10 PM  
 
2020-12-04 2:02:51 PM  

Paul Hackett: Love the long, but it always seemed like the old joke about accidentally hooking up with a trans. Hardly an early LGBTQ anthem.


I like the song too, but it wasn't the guy hooking up with Lola wasn't an accident.  He knew.
 
2020-12-04 2:17:01 PM  

Glorious Golden Ass: Paul Hackett: Paul Hackett: Love the long, but it always seemed like the old joke about accidentally hooking up with a trans. Hardly an early LGBTQ anthem.

*song

It was a crazy, mixed-up, muddled up World back then.


What's interesting about that lyric, and what contributes to it being an LGBTQ song, is that he says it's a mixed up world, EXCEPT for Lola. Lola isn't confused or aberrant. Lola is the one rock solid thing in this world, and it's all the "normal" people who are mixed up.
 
2020-12-04 2:17:32 PM  

phlegmjay: Glorious Golden Ass: Paul Hackett: Paul Hackett: Love the long, but it always seemed like the old joke about accidentally hooking up with a trans. Hardly an early LGBTQ anthem.

*song

It was a crazy, mixed-up, muddled up World back then.

What's interesting about that lyric, and what contributes to it being an LGBTQ song, is that he says it's a mixed up world, EXCEPT for Lola. Lola isn't confused or aberrant. Lola is the one rock solid thing in this world, and it's all the "normal" people who are mixed up.


I meant to say a positive LGBTQ song.
 
2020-12-04 2:21:01 PM  

Ant: What a 50 year old Lola may look like:
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Here is one if you want to go open wheel...

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2020-12-04 2:24:27 PM  

phlegmjay: phlegmjay: Glorious Golden Ass: Paul Hackett: Paul Hackett: Love the long, but it always seemed like the old joke about accidentally hooking up with a trans. Hardly an early LGBTQ anthem.

*song

It was a crazy, mixed-up, muddled up World back then.

What's interesting about that lyric, and what contributes to it being an LGBTQ song, is that he says it's a mixed up world, EXCEPT for Lola. Lola isn't confused or aberrant. Lola is the one rock solid thing in this world, and it's all the "normal" people who are mixed up.

I meant to say a positive LGBTQ song.


Exactly. Plus, the narrator, despite his innocence, gets it and walks away knowing that Lola is ok and so is he. He seems to cherish the memory of the experience.
 
2020-12-04 2:25:57 PM  

phlegmjay: Glorious Golden Ass: Paul Hackett: Paul Hackett: Love the long, but it always seemed like the old joke about accidentally hooking up with a trans. Hardly an early LGBTQ anthem.

*song

It was a crazy, mixed-up, muddled up World back then.

What's interesting about that lyric, and what contributes to it being an LGBTQ song, is that he says it's a mixed up world, EXCEPT for Lola. Lola isn't confused or aberrant. Lola is the one rock solid thing in this world, and it's all the "normal" people who are mixed up.


I see what you did there. But seriously, that's a good read, Even if the narrator hooked up with Lola by accident, his takeaway attitude from the whole thing seems positive, especially by 1970 standards.
 
2020-12-04 2:28:58 PM  

phlegmjay: phlegmjay: Glorious Golden Ass: Paul Hackett: Paul Hackett: Love the long, but it always seemed like the old joke about accidentally hooking up with a trans. Hardly an early LGBTQ anthem.

*song

It was a crazy, mixed-up, muddled up World back then.

What's interesting about that lyric, and what contributes to it being an LGBTQ song, is that he says it's a mixed up world, EXCEPT for Lola. Lola isn't confused or aberrant. Lola is the one rock solid thing in this world, and it's all the "normal" people who are mixed up.

I meant to say a positive LGBTQ song.


So you're confirming that Lola was a man?
 
2020-12-04 2:42:45 PM  

LewDux: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/RfYRz6g1​ODw] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSjTb3​fKpmU


I remember her sister, Shanda.
 
2020-12-04 3:04:16 PM  
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2020-12-04 3:48:08 PM  

NikolaiFarkoff: I met her in a swamp down in Dagobah where it bubbles all the time like a giant carbonated soda.

/yet another song I learned from Weird Al first


I can *mostly* sing the Weird Al version while listening the Kinks version.
 
2020-12-04 4:10:10 PM  
The Kinks are not appreciated like they should be, especially as compared to their counterparts (Beatles, Stones, Who).
 
2020-12-04 4:14:22 PM  

Cortez the Killer: The Kinks are not appreciated like they should be, especially as compared to their counterparts (Beatles, Stones, Who).


Agreed. They were an incredible band. Even their worst albums have 2 or 3 great songs on them, and several of their albums are amazing from start to finish.
 
2020-12-04 4:17:23 PM  

Brandi Morgan: Paul Hackett: Love the long, but it always seemed like the old joke about accidentally hooking up with a trans. Hardly an early LGBTQ anthem.

I like the song too, but it wasn't the guy hooking up with Lola wasn't an accident.  He knew.


And he liked it.

Which is really the strength of the song. It's not a gotcha moment. It's the story of a young man making a discovery, and realizing it was the thing he was missing his whole life, and it completed him.

It's a great song song, and the message is very much in keeping with The Kinks' values. Good on 'em.
 
2020-12-04 4:17:31 PM  
I know Darth Vader's really got you annoyed
But remember, if you kill him, then you'll be unemployed
Oh, my Yoda
Yo-yo-yo-yo Yoda
Well, I heard my friends really got in a mess
So I'm gonna have to leave Yoda I guess
But I know that I'll be coming back some day
I'll be playing this part 'till I'm old and gray
The long-term contract I had to sign
Says I'll be making these movies till the end of time
With my Yoda
Yo-yo-yo-yo Yoda
Yo-yo-yo-yo Yoda

/truly inspired lyrics
// and accurate as hell
/// one of Weird Al's best songs
 
2020-12-04 6:16:22 PM  

LewDux: TommyDeuce: Girls will be boys and boys will be girls.

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oh, you were SO close...
Marlene Dietrich "Naughty Lola" 1930 (The Blue Angel)
Youtube hIfj5OGROJw

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2020-12-04 6:25:06 PM  

LewDux: TommyDeuce: Girls will be boys and boys will be girls.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/JLEp7QCn​J-c]


How she managed to cover song released 13 years after her death we will never know
The Ordinary Boys - Boys Will Be Boys (Top Of The Pops)
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2020-12-04 6:31:09 PM  
It seems like conservative Ray Davies is whitewashing an experience he has no knowledge of. That won't get him any woke points these days. Listen to Lou Reed's songs about trans people being gay and doing crimes instead.
 
2020-12-04 7:17:50 PM  

phlegmjay: phlegmjay: Glorious Golden Ass: Paul Hackett: Paul Hackett: Love the long, but it always seemed like the old joke about accidentally hooking up with a trans. Hardly an early LGBTQ anthem.

*song

It was a crazy, mixed-up, muddled up World back then.

What's interesting about that lyric, and what contributes to it being an LGBTQ song, is that he says it's a mixed up world, EXCEPT for Lola. Lola isn't confused or aberrant. Lola is the one rock solid thing in this world, and it's all the "normal" people who are mixed up.

I meant to say a positive LGBTQ song.


I hear that.

A little off the main topic, but it has to do with that confidence.  An opinion in the NY Times had an interesting take on educating kids about sexual consent.  It suggested taking a cue from the gay community where it is much more common for people to talk about what they are into before they have sex.  That would have changed the awkward experiences I had as a young man in the passenger seat of a 1991 Saturn SL2 and even as an adult.  Be upfront with others and ask them for that honesty in return.  Then, the appropriate boundaries are already set instead of having to awkwardly test the boundaries during and intimate moment.
 
2020-12-04 7:23:12 PM  

phlegmjay: Cortez the Killer: The Kinks are not appreciated like they should be, especially as compared to their counterparts (Beatles, Stones, Who).

Agreed. They were an incredible band. Even their worst albums have 2 or 3 great songs on them, and several of their albums are amazing from start to finish.


I always liked the Kinks a little more than the Beatles for exactly that reason.  I just put on an album and can enjoy it the whole way
through and every album is good listening.
 
2020-12-04 7:32:19 PM  

Spartapuss: It seems like conservative Ray Davies is whitewashing an experience he has no knowledge of. That won't get him any woke points these days. Listen to Lou Reed's songs about trans people being gay and doing crimes instead.


Not sure if serious. However, Ray Davies's politics have always been ambiguous. Much of what causes people to label him conservative is his nostalgia-tinged music, but he has on more than one occasion said that he wrote much of that out of a misplaced sense that he had to write to the sensibilities of his family and others he grew up around, rather than an authentic affiliation with that nostalgia. He has generally seen himself as an outsider his entire life and has never felt like he belonged. Couple that to his own questions about his gender identity, along with Dave's, and I don't think it's fair to say he's whitewashing this or has no knowledge.

Also, he got along well with and spoke well of Lou Reed, whose similar songs were released years later.
 
2020-12-04 8:30:45 PM  

Cortez the Killer: The Kinks are not appreciated like they should be, especially as compared to their counterparts (Beatles, Stones, Who).


Honestly, I feel like they easily deserve the third slot in British invasion bands, and possibly even the second slot.
 
2020-12-04 10:56:33 PM  

Cortez the Killer: The Kinks are not appreciated like they should be, especially as compared to their counterparts (Beatles, Stones, Who).


The Beatles, stones and who are great obviously.

The kinks are so underrated, super creative and clever. Dave Davies has some great licks.
 
2020-12-04 11:01:57 PM  
One of my favs
The Kinks - Permanent Waves
Youtube dr1hj4op-xE
 
2020-12-05 12:26:30 AM  
This would have been the defining work for the Who or the Stones, but this was but a blip on the Kinks' trajectory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE_tN​H​WtspU
 
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