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2020-12-03 2:20:29 PM  
I'm not planning on subscribing, but for the cost of a movie ticket, I might pick it up for a month here and there to check out a couple of these movies.  There's no way I'm sitting in a theater before next Winter.
 
2020-12-03 2:21:12 PM  
How can they be releasing The Matrix 4 when they have never released a 2 or a 3 yet?
 
2020-12-03 2:24:16 PM  
After their "handling" of Game of Thrones, I stopped paying attention to them and dropped their service. I haven't missed it since.

If one of their series is awesome from start to finish, I'll pick it up later.
 
2020-12-03 2:32:40 PM  
Time to start hoarding free 1 month passes i see. Also put it on Roku for crying out loud.
 
2020-12-03 2:42:33 PM  

eagles95: Time to start hoarding free 1 month passes i see. Also put it on Roku for crying out loud.


Supposedly that deal is in the works.  It's rumored they were very close after the announcement that Amazon and HBO had finally struck a deal to get the app on the Firestick.
 
2020-12-03 2:58:20 PM  

Driedsponge: eagles95: Time to start hoarding free 1 month passes i see. Also put it on Roku for crying out loud.

Supposedly that deal is in the works.  It's rumored they were very close after the announcement that Amazon and HBO had finally struck a deal to get the app on the Firestick.


Good. Because we have multiple Rokus in the house and this particular pissing match has been irritating as f*ck.
 
2020-12-03 3:08:44 PM  
Perry Mason and Watchmen were worth the price. I love some of the TCM stuff too. But that price tag is steep.
 
2020-12-03 3:08:55 PM  
Dune is the only one of those I really want to see.  I'll wait until I get vaccinated so I can experience it on a big screen with really good sound.
 
2020-12-03 3:12:48 PM  

Nadie_AZ: After their "handling" of Game of Thrones, I stopped paying attention to them and dropped their service. I haven't missed it since.

If one of their series is awesome from start to finish, I'll pick it up later.


HBO isn't really to blame for how GOT raced through the last couple of seasons.  Do you think the didn't want any more seasons?
 
2020-12-03 3:17:29 PM  

Driedsponge: eagles95: Time to start hoarding free 1 month passes i see. Also put it on Roku for crying out loud.

Supposedly that deal is in the works.  It's rumored they were very close after the announcement that Amazon and HBO had finally struck a deal to get the app on the Firestick.


HBO Max app for Amazon Fire was released about a week ago.
 
2020-12-03 3:20:33 PM  
Dune is toast. There's no way we will get the second part now.

Fark
 
2020-12-03 3:21:55 PM  

Driedsponge: How can they be releasing The Matrix 4 when they have never released a 2 or a 3 yet?


Ask George Lucas.
 
2020-12-03 3:23:31 PM  

Eclectic: Driedsponge: eagles95: Time to start hoarding free 1 month passes i see. Also put it on Roku for crying out loud.

Supposedly that deal is in the works.  It's rumored they were very close after the announcement that Amazon and HBO had finally struck a deal to get the app on the Firestick.

Good. Because we have multiple Rokus in the house and this particular pissing match has been irritating as f*ck.


The one irking me right now is Sinclair screwing with all the regional sports networks. I don't know how much money they're asking for in these failed negotiations, but right now there is no streaming platform with access to any of the regional networks. You *have* to get cable...
 
2020-12-03 3:24:22 PM  
What the hell is HBOMax, HBOGo or whatever the fark ever? I'm already subscribed to four damned things.
 
2020-12-03 3:25:15 PM  

Driedsponge: How can they be releasing The Matrix 4 when they have never released a 2 or a 3 yet?


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2020-12-03 3:25:46 PM  
Seems premature to me. Assuming things go well, theaters should be open before June.

Tho in fairness, I'm not sure I want to be in an enclosed room with strangers ever again so long as I live.

// In my veins
 
2020-12-03 3:27:16 PM  

Nadie_AZ: After their "handling" of Game of Thrones, I stopped paying attention to them and dropped their service. I haven't missed it since.

If one of their series is awesome from start to finish, I'll pick it up later.


Watchmen
 
2020-12-03 3:31:37 PM  
A new Mortal Kombat? Live-action? And is it R?

The Scorpion's Revenge animated movie was fun.
 
2020-12-03 3:44:02 PM  

EvilElecBlanket: Dune is toast. There's no way we will get the second part now.

Fark


I was worried when they said they were splitting into 2 movies. Now I'm with you; there's no way we see a part 2.

NERD TANGENT

Always thought that the best way to get the Dune saga onto the screen was to start with Book 4. Leto II is the most interesting character, so you have him tell the tale of the first trilogy in flashback (which is totally in character for him), running concurrently with the story of God Emperor. That way you get lots of Leto II screen time and also get to build up to the payoff at the end of book God Emperor, the thing the entire series was building to and answers the questions, WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS? It also provides a great transition to the later books, Heretics and Chapterhouse, which go off the rails in the best way possible.
 
2020-12-03 3:45:10 PM  
So... does that mean that the Space Jam website is going to be updated?

https://spacejam.com/
 
2020-12-03 3:47:12 PM  
How can they be releasing The Matrix 4 when they have never released a 2 or a 3 yet?

Ironically, I think the last movie I saw in a theater was Matrix 2.
 
2020-12-03 3:48:24 PM  

drewsclues: EvilElecBlanket: Dune is toast. There's no way we will get the second part now.

Fark

I was worried when they said they were splitting into 2 movies. Now I'm with you; there's no way we see a part 2.

NERD TANGENT

Always thought that the best way to get the Dune saga onto the screen was to start with Book 4. Leto II is the most interesting character, so you have him tell the tale of the first trilogy in flashback (which is totally in character for him), running concurrently with the story of God Emperor. That way you get lots of Leto II screen time and also get to build up to the payoff at the end of book God Emperor, the thing the entire series was building to and answers the questions, WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS? It also provides a great transition to the later books, Heretics and Chapterhouse, which go off the rails in the best way possible.


Oh good God, no.

They had to hand out cheat sheets in the movie theaters when Lynch's Dune came out in the 1980s.  Imagine how much worse it would be with another 800 years of history tacked on.
 
2020-12-03 3:50:19 PM  
The pandemic didn't just kill a lot of Americans due to their leader's incompetence, it also killed the movie theater industry. I doubt it will ever return to what it was before, even if there is an available vaccine. Avenger's Endgame had a prophetic title. I wonder if this will create a shift in movie budgets and actors salaries.
 
2020-12-03 3:52:01 PM  

floor: Nadie_AZ: After their "handling" of Game of Thrones, I stopped paying attention to them and dropped their service. I haven't missed it since.

If one of their series is awesome from start to finish, I'll pick it up later.

Watchmen


Watchmen's pretty farking confusing at the start, much better in the middle
 
2020-12-03 3:52:13 PM  

AnotherBluesStringer: Perry Mason and Watchmen were worth the price. I love some of the TCM stuff too. But that price tag is steep.


Doom Patrol is also good. Plus Class Action Park is a great documentary about Fark's favorite amusement park.
 
2020-12-03 3:54:23 PM  

AnotherBluesStringer: Perry Mason and Watchmen were worth the price. I love some of the TCM stuff too. But that price tag is steep.


$15 a month is steep? You sound like a poor.
 
2020-12-03 3:54:24 PM  

Ragin' Asian: What the hell is HBOMax, HBOGo or whatever the fark ever? I'm already subscribed to four damned things.


There is theoretically only HBO Max now (and cable HBO). If you had Go or Now, it was upgraded to Max. The only hold up is if you have Roku, the Max app isn't on it yet so you have to still use Now.
 
2020-12-03 3:56:36 PM  

Driedsponge: How can they be releasing The Matrix 4 when they have never released a 2 or a 3 yet?


The 4th is called Matrix: The Apology
 
2020-12-03 3:57:05 PM  

jvl: Seems premature to me. Assuming things go well, theaters should be open before June.

Tho in fairness, I'm not sure I want to be in an enclosed room with strangers ever again so long as I live.

// In my veins


But this is (mostly) just one studio. If everyone holds out for the same return to normalcy you're going to have this 18 month famine followed by a giant glut of tentpoles that won't be able to get 3 weekends in theaters before the next backlogged tentpoles is released.

It sort of makes sense to.announce this and give yourself a shot at gaining ground in the home theater world.
 
2020-12-03 4:00:08 PM  

baorao: jvl: Seems premature to me. Assuming things go well, theaters should be open before June.

Tho in fairness, I'm not sure I want to be in an enclosed room with strangers ever again so long as I live.

// In my veins

But this is (mostly) just one studio. If everyone holds out for the same return to normalcy you're going to have this 18 month famine followed by a giant glut of tentpoles that won't be able to get 3 weekends in theaters before the next backlogged tentpoles is released.

It sort of makes sense to.announce this and give yourself a shot at gaining ground in the home theater world.


Get that sweet sweet subscription money without having to deal with movie theater chains.

/Then again, we already have HBO so we won't be paying anything extra
 
2020-12-03 4:01:06 PM  

TappingTheVein: The pandemic didn't just kill a lot of Americans due to their leader's incompetence, it also killed the movie theater industry. I doubt it will ever return to what it was before, even if there is an available vaccine. Avenger's Endgame had a prophetic title. I wonder if this will create a shift in movie budgets and actors salaries.


Good.  There was no reason nearly every movie cost 75 million or more to make.
 
2020-12-03 4:03:40 PM  

stevecore: Driedsponge: How can they be releasing The Matrix 4 when they have never released a 2 or a 3 yet?

The 4th is called Matrix: The Apology


So it'll be like Star Wars 9 and be 50% dedicated to retconning or explaining things people didn't like about the previous ones?

/Then the remaining half will mostly suck.
 
2020-12-03 4:16:26 PM  

TappingTheVein: The pandemic didn't just kill a lot of Americans due to their leader's incompetence, it also killed the movie theater industry.


Along with the 2021 slate of upcoming movies and all the movies that were supposed to come out in 2020 that got bumped to 2021, theaters are going to be doing fine. Vaccines are going to start being distributed by the end of this month and should have been distributed to a significant amount of the population by April. I know farkers pride themselves on living like shut-ins, even pre-pandemic, but once spring rolls around and the vaccine is a common thing, normal folk are going to want to go out.

baorao: But this is (mostly) just one studio. If everyone holds out for the same return to normalcy you're going to have this 18 month famine followed by a giant glut of tentpoles that won't be able to get 3 weekends in theaters before the next backlogged tentpoles is released.


That's already in the cards. Right now, more movies are slated for theatrical release in 2021, particularly after March/April, than any year maybe ever. Since people can only go to so many movies a month, the theatrical release of any movie that's not a billion dollar blockbuster is going to be a lot shorter, just because theaters will have a shortage of screen space. This decision from Warners and HBO is to offset some of those theatrical losses by bringing in a second revenue stream.
 
2020-12-03 4:21:10 PM  

stoli n coke: AnotherBluesStringer: Perry Mason and Watchmen were worth the price. I love some of the TCM stuff too. But that price tag is steep.

$15 a month is steep? You sound like a poor.


Only in addition to the other 3 streaming services I already have. I'm not spending $50/month for streaming services.
 
2020-12-03 4:21:30 PM  
Do we really need another Mortal Kombat movie...
 
2020-12-03 4:26:15 PM  

AnotherBluesStringer: stoli n coke: AnotherBluesStringer: Perry Mason and Watchmen were worth the price. I love some of the TCM stuff too. But that price tag is steep.

$15 a month is steep? You sound like a poor.

Only in addition to the other 3 streaming services I already have. I'm not spending $50/month for streaming services.


So do I. $50 a month is still less than half of what I used to spend on cable.
 
2020-12-03 4:29:32 PM  

TappingTheVein: The pandemic didn't just kill a lot of Americans due to their leader's incompetence, it also killed the movie theater industry. I doubt it will ever return to what it was before, even if there is an available vaccine. Avenger's Endgame had a prophetic title. I wonder if this will create a shift in movie budgets and actors salaries.


I think it will return...someday. I also think it will be very close to what it was before. People will always want to go out. This is why theaters and restaurants will always be around.

Where I differ with some people involves the predictions of when things will get back to normal. I see too many people and businesses making plans that by such and such date things should be getting back to normal. I think they are wrong. This is normal, the way we are living now. I think WB is the first large business that finally gets it. People and business putting things on hold because they think this is just temporary are farking up. It was 'temporary' back in mid March when shut downs began and now look at the country. It's never really been temporary. The only way it comes to an end is a vaccine or immunity, that's what experts said at the beginning and the fact it's still going on kinda proved their point.

Assuming the vaccines work and people are willing to be vaccinated then I think 2022 could be when theaters reopen. It would be easy for WB to plan on having a big summer 2021 movie season but it would be dumb. Plan for a lengthy pandemic, if it surprisingly comes to a quick end you won't be out anything. If it continues to be a lengthy pandemic then you'll be in better shape because you planned for that.
 
2020-12-03 4:32:36 PM  

Nadie_AZ: After their "handling" of Game of Thrones, I stopped paying attention to them and dropped their service. I haven't missed it since.

If one of their series is awesome from start to finish, I'll pick it up later.


One word:  Chernobyl.
 
2020-12-03 4:34:54 PM  
Hey movie theaters! Over here! This is newspapers and magazines. Come join us at the "Things the internet is rapidly making irrelevant table."

Sorry for the spread, all we can afford is some store-brand ritz crackers, government cheese, and faygo.

To your right are traditional book publishers, and to your left is Network/Cable TV's seat. They'll be joining us soon.
 
2020-12-03 4:38:40 PM  

stoli n coke: AnotherBluesStringer: Perry Mason and Watchmen were worth the price. I love some of the TCM stuff too. But that price tag is steep.

$15 a month is steep? You sound like a poor.


Costs more than netflix with a smaller library that's equally shiatty. All these subscriptions add up, too
 
2020-12-03 4:40:40 PM  
I guess I gotta get HBO Max then. Cheaper than a movie ticket and popcorn and drink.
Problem is I have Roku and it's not available there yet.
I have a free 30 day code cause I have AT&T.
 
2020-12-03 4:42:49 PM  

moothemagiccow: stoli n coke: AnotherBluesStringer: Perry Mason and Watchmen were worth the price. I love some of the TCM stuff too. But that price tag is steep.

$15 a month is steep? You sound like a poor.

Costs more than netflix with a smaller library that's equally shiatty. All these subscriptions add up, too


costs less for all of 2021 than what you would spend to see all of those movies in a theaters.

I could easily justify dumping Netflix for a year for something like this.
 
2020-12-03 4:49:26 PM  

moothemagiccow: floor: Nadie_AZ: After their "handling" of Game of Thrones, I stopped paying attention to them and dropped their service. I haven't missed it since.

If one of their series is awesome from start to finish, I'll pick it up later.

Watchmen

Watchmen's pretty farking confusing at the start, much better in the middle


I read the comic so it was good from episode one. Like most HBO series it takes off at episode 4 and becomes great. Some of the reveals would fall flat to nonreaders.
 
2020-12-03 4:51:02 PM  

FrancoFile: drewsclues: EvilElecBlanket: Dune is toast. There's no way we will get the second part now.

Fark

I was worried when they said they were splitting into 2 movies. Now I'm with you; there's no way we see a part 2.

NERD TANGENT

Always thought that the best way to get the Dune saga onto the screen was to start with Book 4. Leto II is the most interesting character, so you have him tell the tale of the first trilogy in flashback (which is totally in character for him), running concurrently with the story of God Emperor. That way you get lots of Leto II screen time and also get to build up to the payoff at the end of book God Emperor, the thing the entire series was building to and answers the questions, WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS? It also provides a great transition to the later books, Heretics and Chapterhouse, which go off the rails in the best way possible.

Oh good God, no.

They had to hand out cheat sheets in the movie theaters when Lynch's Dune came out in the 1980s.  Imagine how much worse it would be with another 800 years of history tacked on.


It doesn't do that though. This configuration allows the important story beats to rise above the sometimes oppressive lore.
 
2020-12-03 5:06:19 PM  

moothemagiccow: stoli n coke: AnotherBluesStringer: Perry Mason and Watchmen were worth the price. I love some of the TCM stuff too. But that price tag is steep.

$15 a month is steep? You sound like a poor.

Costs more than netflix with a smaller library that's equally shiatty. All these subscriptions add up, too


I think HBO Max's library is better than Netflix, especially since it offers not only HBO's movies, but also Turner Classics (1966-1980 was the golden age). The DC stuff is take or leave, because I don't really care about superhero movies.

Netflix has a bad problem of just rotating the same movies on and off their service.

As for adding up, I compare it to what I spent on cable up until 4 years ago.
Just digital cable with HBO used to run me $125 a month.

Amazon Prime pays for itself every December on what I save on shipping for Christmas presents, so that just leaves Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, ESPN+, and HBO Max.  That comes out to $45 a month.

Even adding what I pay for Amazon's music library and Audible, I'm paying half my old cable bill.
 
2020-12-03 5:32:17 PM  
Everyone was waiting for someone to have the balls to do this. My guess is more will follow suit.

And I'm perfectly fine with that.
 
2020-12-03 5:35:03 PM  

Mad_Radhu: AnotherBluesStringer: Perry Mason and Watchmen were worth the price. I love some of the TCM stuff too. But that price tag is steep.

Doom Patrol is also good. Plus Class Action Park is a great documentary about Fark's favorite amusement park.


Now that they're bringing over the DC Universe stuff, Titans is worth checking out if you havent.
 
2020-12-03 5:36:13 PM  

stoli n coke: AnotherBluesStringer: stoli n coke: AnotherBluesStringer: Perry Mason and Watchmen were worth the price. I love some of the TCM stuff too. But that price tag is steep.

$15 a month is steep? You sound like a poor.

Only in addition to the other 3 streaming services I already have. I'm not spending $50/month for streaming services.

So do I. $50 a month is still less than half of what I used to spend on cable.


I'm curious, how much do you spend on internet service? Or are you just using mobile broadband?
 
2020-12-03 5:39:11 PM  

alitaki: stoli n coke: AnotherBluesStringer: stoli n coke: AnotherBluesStringer: Perry Mason and Watchmen were worth the price. I love some of the TCM stuff too. But that price tag is steep.

$15 a month is steep? You sound like a poor.

Only in addition to the other 3 streaming services I already have. I'm not spending $50/month for streaming services.

So do I. $50 a month is still less than half of what I used to spend on cable.

I'm curious, how much do you spend on internet service? Or are you just using mobile broadband?


Hundred and ten bucks.
 
2020-12-03 5:40:23 PM  
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