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2020-12-03 2:59:52 PM  
15 votes:
F*ck organised religion.
Yes, even that one.
Yes, even yours.
 
2020-12-03 2:41:44 PM  
12 votes:
I never thought living alone would be good for my health, but here we are
 
2020-12-03 2:05:38 PM  
9 votes:
At the rate were going things like speed limits and the selective service will all be scrapped as infringements on your freedoms.
 
2020-12-03 4:11:50 PM  
7 votes:
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These are the numbers from Yesterday.
 
2020-12-03 3:02:09 PM  
7 votes:
Ok, on reflection, let them gather.
Then we chain the doors shut and let them go full on Donner party at the end.
 
2020-12-03 4:11:25 PM  
4 votes:
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2020-12-03 3:50:31 PM  
4 votes:
The church I work for has done Zoom meetings online since March.  People are still writing checks to the church and whatnot, so it isn't really affecting their donations.  Just now we are starting to broadcast services from the sanctuary through the Christmas season, with roughly 4 people in the church--the pastor, me, and the people running the camera and the sound.  The pastor has been told by the region that she can take off her mask if she wants, but she doesn't.

Basically, there is a big left-right divide in the religious community, too, and it falls exactly where you expect when it comes to the pandemic/masks.  The churches in these lawsuits are all on the right end of the spectrum:  they're evangelical, Pentacostal, Foursquare, non-denominational (conservative), et cetera.  American Roman Catholics are pretty nutty these days, too.  These lawsuits aren't being waged by the ELCA Lutherans, the Methodists, the Episcopalians, or the Presbyterians--these are loud, conservative, extra-grifty churches.

I'm an atheist, but I really do feel for churches and religious communities that are legitimately trying to do good in the world but who keep ending up associated with these Bible-thumping assholes who just want to condemn and control everyone.  I'm sure this sounds a little "not all churches" but these asshole churches are very much in the minority in the US and the majority of other religious communities wish they'd just stop existing already.
 
2020-12-03 3:45:21 PM  
4 votes:
"It argued Newsom's rules discriminated against religion because grocery stores, big-box retailers, warehouses and meatpacking plants could remain open and allow large gatherings while churches were closed

All those things they compare churches too and necessary for people to eat.

No one dies cause they cant get to church.

Seriously, fark your sky wizard.
 
2020-12-03 3:42:18 PM  
4 votes:
I hate these cases that are the right outcome from a jurisprudence standpoint, but suck donkey-balls.

The fact that these churches are suing to reopen instead of doing what's best for humanity tells you everything you need to know about them.

My church closed in March and won't be opening at least until Broadway theaters do. Everything is remote except for their free-food distribution program which has become a takeaway service and distribution has moved outdoors.
 
2020-12-03 3:06:17 PM  
4 votes:
To be fair [and balanced], most of the GOP has already contracted the disease, and have achieved herd mentality.
They've also suffered through Covid.
 
2020-12-03 4:01:46 PM  
3 votes:

ArkPanda: austerity101: The church I work for has done Zoom meetings online since March.  People are still writing checks to the church and whatnot, so it isn't really affecting their donations.  Just now we are starting to broadcast services from the sanctuary through the Christmas season, with roughly 4 people in the church--the pastor, me, and the people running the camera and the sound.  The pastor has been told by the region that she can take off her mask if she wants, but she doesn't.

Basically, there is a big left-right divide in the religious community, too, and it falls exactly where you expect when it comes to the pandemic/masks.  The churches in these lawsuits are all on the right end of the spectrum:  they're evangelical, Pentacostal, Foursquare, non-denominational (conservative), et cetera.  American Roman Catholics are pretty nutty these days, too.  These lawsuits aren't being waged by the ELCA Lutherans, the Methodists, the Episcopalians, or the Presbyterians--these are loud, conservative, extra-grifty churches.

I'm an atheist, but I really do feel for churches and religious communities that are legitimately trying to do good in the world but who keep ending up associated with these Bible-thumping assholes who just want to condemn and control everyone.  I'm sure this sounds a little "not all churches" but these asshole churches are very much in the minority in the US and the majority of other religious communities wish they'd just stop existing already.

Even the Mormons are being smart and keeping their churches closed. What does that say about these clowns?


Purely a financial decision. Dead Mormons can't contribute 10% of their income to the church...
 
2020-12-03 3:45:57 PM  
3 votes:
The Supreme Court is trying to kill us.  Nice.  I guess Justice Jackson was wrong and the constitution IS a suicide pact.
 
2020-12-03 3:44:51 PM  
3 votes:
If there was any justice in the world this whole Covid Stupidity would see a major future backlash against Organized Religion (of those guilty of this stupidity) from normal people as a whole.
 
2020-12-03 3:39:51 PM  
3 votes:

severedtoe: come for the carols stay for the collection basket.


You misspelled "casket."
 
2020-12-03 3:39:23 PM  
3 votes:
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2020-12-03 3:08:06 PM  
3 votes:

edmo: At the rate were going things like speed limits and the selective service will all be scrapped as infringements on your freedoms.


I'm just going to claim that  tasering maskless COVID hoaxers right in the junk is a divinely mandated sacrament.
 
2020-12-03 4:08:11 PM  
2 votes:
Any church insisting on in-person worship services is a false church.
 
2020-12-03 3:56:45 PM  
2 votes:

austerity101: The church I work for has done Zoom meetings online since March.  People are still writing checks to the church and whatnot, so it isn't really affecting their donations.  Just now we are starting to broadcast services from the sanctuary through the Christmas season, with roughly 4 people in the church--the pastor, me, and the people running the camera and the sound.  The pastor has been told by the region that she can take off her mask if she wants, but she doesn't.

Basically, there is a big left-right divide in the religious community, too, and it falls exactly where you expect when it comes to the pandemic/masks.  The churches in these lawsuits are all on the right end of the spectrum:  they're evangelical, Pentacostal, Foursquare, non-denominational (conservative), et cetera.  American Roman Catholics are pretty nutty these days, too.  These lawsuits aren't being waged by the ELCA Lutherans, the Methodists, the Episcopalians, or the Presbyterians--these are loud, conservative, extra-grifty churches.

I'm an atheist, but I really do feel for churches and religious communities that are legitimately trying to do good in the world but who keep ending up associated with these Bible-thumping assholes who just want to condemn and control everyone.  I'm sure this sounds a little "not all churches" but these asshole churches are very much in the minority in the US and the majority of other religious communities wish they'd just stop existing already.


Even the Mormons are being smart and keeping their churches closed. What does that say about these clowns?
 
2020-12-03 3:53:36 PM  
2 votes:

peterquince: DarnoKonrad: peterquince: right outcome from a jurisprudence standpoint,

ok troll.

Nope. You and I agree that they should be closed. Like I say, I hate that they're open. I want them to close. I believe they should close. I'm appalled that they want to open. The right thing for them to do is close. But the letter of the law doesn't support what's right, in this case.

To say that differently, it's the law that sucks, not the court's determination.

There are three or four cases I can think of historically where that happened in a big way. Plessy vs. Ferguson was correct under the law, but absolutely shiatty for humanity. Brown vs. Board of Education was the opposite. The Jurisprudence was questionable at best, but came to the conclusion that was Right. Law is messy and the founders hadn't intended for this outcome. What's correct isn't always what's right.


I understand and agree with your sentiments, with one exception: At this point in history I'm not sure why any rational person should give a single f*ck what the 'founders' intended. They were men of their time - that is to say racist, mysogynist slave-owners (for the most part), who launched a revolution over a tax increase. That, and it was hundreds of years ago and the world just may have changed a bit.  F*ck 'em.
 
2020-12-03 3:46:27 PM  
2 votes:
Matthew 18:20
 
2020-12-03 3:40:48 PM  
2 votes:
Death cult gonna cult.
 
2020-12-03 3:40:36 PM  
2 votes:
Anything that increases & accelerates the irrelevance of organized religion in the U.S. is A-OK by me...
 
2020-12-03 3:40:17 PM  
2 votes:
Time to ignore the Supreme Court until it's fixed.

Good job on the headline, it's mostly singable.
 
2020-12-03 1:52:37 PM  
2 votes:
*applesauce*
 
2020-12-03 5:34:27 PM  
1 vote:

OrionXVI: peterquince: fringedmyotis: peterquince: DarnoKonrad: peterquince: right outcome from a jurisprudence standpoint,

ok troll.

Nope. You and I agree that they should be closed. Like I say, I hate that they're open. I want them to close. I believe they should close. I'm appalled that they want to open. The right thing for them to do is close. But the letter of the law doesn't support what's right, in this case.

To say that differently, it's the law that sucks, not the court's determination.

There are three or four cases I can think of historically where that happened in a big way. Plessy vs. Ferguson was correct under the law, but absolutely shiatty for humanity. Brown vs. Board of Education was the opposite. The Jurisprudence was questionable at best, but came to the conclusion that was Right. Law is messy and the founders hadn't intended for this outcome. What's correct isn't always what's right.

I understand and agree with your sentiments, with one exception: At this point in history I'm not sure why any rational person should give a single f*ck what the 'founders' intended. They were men of their time - that is to say racist, mysogynist slave-owners (for the most part), who launched a revolution over a tax increase. That, and it was hundreds of years ago and the world just may have changed a bit.  F*ck 'em.

Yeah, I don't disagree with you. But the principal is still "shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of [religion]..." And there is wisdom in that. It's just that that wisdom doesn't stand up right now.

"shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of [religion]..." is in conflict with "nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law", as COVID-19 kills people, but they conveniently ignore that part.


that's ... not what "without due process of law" means....
 
2020-12-03 4:58:26 PM  
1 vote:

alienated: quatchi: Death cult gonna cult.

Thats what happened. Kinda.
Although it was "southern death cult " that was changed to "death cult" to just " the cult".


She Sells Santuary remains a near perfect rock song in my humble opinion.
 
2020-12-03 4:18:07 PM  
1 vote:

fringedmyotis: peterquince: DarnoKonrad: peterquince: right outcome from a jurisprudence standpoint,

ok troll.

Nope. You and I agree that they should be closed. Like I say, I hate that they're open. I want them to close. I believe they should close. I'm appalled that they want to open. The right thing for them to do is close. But the letter of the law doesn't support what's right, in this case.

To say that differently, it's the law that sucks, not the court's determination.

There are three or four cases I can think of historically where that happened in a big way. Plessy vs. Ferguson was correct under the law, but absolutely shiatty for humanity. Brown vs. Board of Education was the opposite. The Jurisprudence was questionable at best, but came to the conclusion that was Right. Law is messy and the founders hadn't intended for this outcome. What's correct isn't always what's right.

I understand and agree with your sentiments, with one exception: At this point in history I'm not sure why any rational person should give a single f*ck what the 'founders' intended. They were men of their time - that is to say racist, mysogynist slave-owners (for the most part), who launched a revolution over a tax increase. That, and it was hundreds of years ago and the world just may have changed a bit.  F*ck 'em.


Yeah, I don't disagree with you. But the principal is still "shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of [religion]..." And there is wisdom in that. It's just that that wisdom doesn't stand up right now.
 
2020-12-03 4:09:49 PM  
1 vote:
I'm OK with christians dying.  They want to meet jeebus, so let them.  It's not like I'm going to interact with any of them.  I keep f*cking idiots at a distance.
 
2020-12-03 4:06:41 PM  
1 vote:

quatchi: Death cult gonna cult.


Thats what happened. Kinda.
Although it was "southern death cult " that was changed to "death cult" to just " the cult".
 
2020-12-03 3:51:17 PM  
1 vote:
If you go to church and get sick, stay the fark home and pray for healing. Don't all of a sudden decide listening to science is suddenly your thing when you need it to save your dumb ass.

Farking idiots like this are the reason we've been cooped up for nine months.
 
2020-12-03 3:43:48 PM  
1 vote:
It argued Newsom's rules discriminated against religion because grocery stores, big-box retailers, warehouses and meatpacking plants could remain open and allow large gatherings while churches were closed.

Except churches do not practice social distancing like all the other examples.
 
2020-12-03 3:43:03 PM  
1 vote:

Epicedion: severedtoe: come for the carols stay for the collection basket.

You misspelled "casket."


that comes later, Jesus needs his cash now.
 
2020-12-03 3:41:45 PM  
1 vote:
That's certainly one way to get rid of religion. Unfortunately it takes out some of those who have reached the age of REASON.
 
2020-12-03 3:39:14 PM  
1 vote:
come for the carols stay for the collection basket.
 
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