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(The Hill)   The US is on track for issuing 100 million Covid-19 vaccines by February, hopefully that many people won't be sick by then   (thehill.com) divider line
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2020-12-03 10:20:13 AM  
Are they just going to set out a big bucket and let people grab one?
 
2020-12-03 10:58:08 AM  
I have this vision of using a shoe to kill ants near an ant hill.
 
2020-12-03 11:01:13 AM  
Good. General Perna, the logistics guy, will deserve the lion's share of the credit when they pull this off. Slaoui, maybe not quite so much.

Trump, little to none. I can't believe he actually did anything besides coming up with a stupid label and making a speech or two, maybe making a hurry-up-and-get-this-done phone call or two to people who already were aware of the urgency of the project.

Now if only the fundies didn't believe it's literally the mark of the beast from John of Patmos' bad mushroom trip
 
2020-12-03 12:15:09 PM  
too little , too late

COVID-19 Deaths in the USA, December 3rd 2020
Youtube iPlC-5KgYXw
 
2020-12-03 12:16:08 PM  
100M doses = 50M vaccinated.
 
2020-12-03 12:16:17 PM  
Obama, W and Clinton are going to be inoculated publicly to assure us it is safe.

I wish there were more emphasis on the fact that these vaccines take a number of weeks to take effect after injection.  I fear people will think they have been given a magic germ shield as soon as they get the shot.
 
2020-12-03 12:16:19 PM  
I see what you did there, subby.
 
2020-12-03 12:17:23 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Are they just going to set out a big bucket and let people grab one?


Seriously. Manufacturing and air dropping 100 million doses nationwide isn't going to help when the federal government has done *nothing* to assist county and local health agencies with logistics and distribution. Even during COVID-19, money talks and without funding for local distribution, there's going to be chaos.
 
2020-12-03 12:18:40 PM  
Burning like a brushfire through my office right now. 5 infected this week alone - that's a quarter of the office staff.

I'm fortunate that I sit far from everyone else, have been an absolute Nazi with bleach wipes, keep my mask on the entire time, and I put a tape border on the floor around my desk to say "stay the fark out".
 
2020-12-03 12:19:07 PM  
Vaccines aren't cures. They're prophylactics: they cause an immune response from the body. If you're sick from COVID-19, getting the vaccine won't do you any good.
 
2020-12-03 12:19:55 PM  
Even if that unlikely statement is true, that's 50 million folks to be vaccinated by February.

Just a bit more than 1 in 7.

So, if you read that and thought "I'll be out & about by March," you don't understand how vaccines work, and you're going to be sorely disappointed to discover that for at least 75% or so of us to be vaccinated, even at the current rate, it'll be well past June, 2021 before that can occur, assuming that no additional issues occur from such a vaccine.

And, again, it has to be stated - the FDA has not yet approved any vaccine, even for emergency use, so what you're hearing is "we're taking a huge gamble and manufacturing the current vaccine at speed in an attempt to pressure the FDA to approve what we have."

A true shiatshow.
 
2020-12-03 12:20:20 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: 100M doses = 50M vaccinated.


Actually, the number cited in TFA is 200M doses. The 100M is referring to the number of people vaccinated.
 
2020-12-03 12:20:33 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: 100M doses = 50M vaccinated.


That's not correct.  They count "per person" even if the vaccine takes two doses.
 
2020-12-03 12:20:34 PM  

The Bunyip: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Are they just going to set out a big bucket and let people grab one?

Seriously. Manufacturing and air dropping 100 million doses nationwide isn't going to help when the federal government has done *nothing* to assist county and local health agencies with logistics and distribution. Even during COVID-19, money talks and without funding for local distribution, there's going to be chaos.


I believe they had an example of that chaos in Contagion.
 
2020-12-03 12:22:13 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: 100M doses = 50M vaccinated.


Farking reading, how the fark does it work?

According to Slaoui, the companies have manufactured and stockpiled enough doses that the government can send 40 million doses to states in December, 60 million doses in January and 100 million doses by the end of February.

Anyway, considering the 35% that say they won't get the vaccine, that'll be roughly half the double-doses we need to vaccinate everyone that's willing.
 
2020-12-03 12:22:28 PM  
100 million doses for a two dose protocol means maybe 1/6 ish of the population might have their first shot.

Also keeping in mind that even after the second shot we know that there is a slim chance that it may not prevent infection.

If we have 100 million doses by Feb, knowing that a number of these companies were pre-producing them for some time before this recent announcement we will not see similar levels of stock in a bi monthly process like most are lead to believe.  Lets say its 50 million doses made usable every three months, you need to manage logistics and supplies so that people that completed their first round are able to finish the second round at the correct time and not have new first round people take their shot.  This may be going on well into 2022 before we have enough people inoculated and that is if nothing terrible happens.
 
2020-12-03 12:22:38 PM  

Arkanaut: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: 100M doses = 50M vaccinated.

Actually, the number cited in TFA is 200M doses. The 100M is referring to the number of people vaccinated.


I'm not reading TFA. This is Fark, mother trucker!

\ And Subby agrees with me, because they didn't RTFA either!
 
2020-12-03 12:22:57 PM  

LincolnLogolas: Burning like a brushfire through my office right now. 5 infected this week alone - that's a quarter of the office staff.

I'm fortunate that I sit far from everyone else, have been an absolute Nazi with bleach wipes, keep my mask on the entire time, and I put a tape border on the floor around my desk to say "stay the fark out".


How did the turkey drop go this year, Les?
 
2020-12-03 12:23:28 PM  

FormlessOne: Even if that unlikely statement is true, that's 50 million folks to be vaccinated by February.

Just a bit more than 1 in 7.

So, if you read that and thought "I'll be out & about by March," you don't understand how vaccines work, and you're going to be sorely disappointed to discover that for at least 75% or so of us to be vaccinated, even at the current rate, it'll be well past June, 2021 before that can occur, assuming that no additional issues occur from such a vaccine.

And, again, it has to be stated - the FDA has not yet approved any vaccine, even for emergency use, so what you're hearing is "we're taking a huge gamble and manufacturing the current vaccine at speed in an attempt to pressure the FDA to approve what we have."

A true shiatshow.


Take into account we have a fair portion of our fellow citizens that aren't going to take the vaccine sue to their beliefs or fears, and we have even LONGER before effective vaccinations have occurred to create a herd immunity situation.

We amy he stuck here longer than we think
 
2020-12-03 12:23:39 PM  

Skeleton Man: Farking reading, how the fark does it work?


I'm forced to confiscate your Fark license.

\ Reading the articles?
 
2020-12-03 12:23:44 PM  
...and we're on track to needing 328 million a month ago.
 
2020-12-03 12:24:35 PM  

otherginger: Obama, W and Clinton are going to be inoculated publicly to assure us it is safe.

I wish there were more emphasis on the fact that these vaccines take a number of weeks to take effect after injection.  I fear people will think they have been given a magic germ shield as soon as they get the shot.


That's why they keep giving us dates, as though the problem magically ends when vaccination starts.

If you want to get a feel for what this is going to be like, we have plenty of historical information from which to draw.
 
2020-12-03 12:29:13 PM  

otherginger: Obama, W and Clinton are going to be inoculated publicly to assure us it is safe.

I wish there were more emphasis on the fact that these vaccines take a number of weeks to take effect after injection.  I fear people will think they have been given a magic germ shield as soon as they get the shot.


Yeah, but are they getting the BILL GATES GEORGE SOROS UN AGENDA 2030 MICROCHIP vaccine? Because unless they get THAT one, I'm not touching it.
 
2020-12-03 12:30:34 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: LincolnLogolas: Burning like a brushfire through my office right now. 5 infected this week alone - that's a quarter of the office staff.

I'm fortunate that I sit far from everyone else, have been an absolute Nazi with bleach wipes, keep my mask on the entire time, and I put a tape border on the floor around my desk to say "stay the fark out".

How did the turkey drop go this year, Les?


As God is my witness, I thought Turkeys could fly.
 
2020-12-03 12:34:24 PM  

otherginger: Obama, W and Clinton are going to be inoculated publicly to assure us it is safe.

I wish there were more emphasis on the fact that these vaccines take a number of weeks to take effect after injection.  I fear people will think they have been given a magic germ shield as soon as they get the shot.


It's the US, most will stop wearing masks and physically distancing before the first official shot is given.
 
2020-12-03 12:34:39 PM  

Leader O'Cola: too little , too late

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/iPlC-5Kg​YXw]



really wish it were possible to see who smarts/funnies posts.
 
2020-12-03 12:35:55 PM  

Leader O'Cola: Leader O'Cola: too little , too late

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/iPlC-5Kg​YXw]


really wish it were possible to see who smarts/funnies posts.


Then you could see self-smarters.
 
2020-12-03 12:39:32 PM  

Pincy: otherginger: Obama, W and Clinton are going to be inoculated publicly to assure us it is safe.

I wish there were more emphasis on the fact that these vaccines take a number of weeks to take effect after injection.  I fear people will think they have been given a magic germ shield as soon as they get the shot.

It's the US, most will stop already have stopped wearing masks and physically distancing before the first official shot is given.


FTFY. HTH. HAND.
 
2020-12-03 12:40:04 PM  
according to 'covid math' we a a couple of days to that number of cases

covid math, just putting random numbers together.
 
2020-12-03 12:41:05 PM  
I hope my mother is in one of the higher tiers for receiving the vaccine.  She's a lung cancer/surgery survivor twice and 70+ y/o.  Once she has the vaccine I will have a HUGE sigh of relief.
 
2020-12-03 12:42:28 PM  
I'm sure a whole lot of them will be dead by then, subs.

Damn, I'm in a dark mood today.
 
2020-12-03 12:45:59 PM  

Lord_Moldypants: I'm sure a whole lot of them will be dead by then, subs.

Damn, I'm in a dark mood today.


Major League: This guy here is Dead! Cross him off then!
Youtube Q2JZwm3l1-8
 
2020-12-03 12:46:55 PM  
So the way that things are going currently with the GOP health care plan, that should be enough to inoculate the entire population of the USA.

/probably going to get this in the second round in time for the SW fire season in May
 
2020-12-03 12:48:52 PM  

oa330_man: So the way that things are going currently with the GOP health care plan, that should be enough to inoculate the entire population of the USA.

/probably going to get this in the second round in time for the SW fire season in May


At least a significant portion of those still not yet infected or dead.
 
2020-12-03 12:50:24 PM  

KarmicDisaster: Leader O'Cola: Leader O'Cola: too little , too late

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/iPlC-5Kg​YXw]


really wish it were possible to see who smarts/funnies posts.

Then you could see self-smarters.



among other things.
 
2020-12-03 12:55:26 PM  

FarkingSmurf: I hope my mother is in one of the higher tiers for receiving the vaccine.  She's a lung cancer/surgery survivor twice and 70+ y/o.  Once she has the vaccine I will have a HUGE sigh of relief.


Trump really came through for her.  I hope she appreciates that.
 
2020-12-03 1:03:54 PM  

Leader O'Cola: too little , too late

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/iPlC-5Kg​YXw]


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2020-12-03 1:06:04 PM  

BigGrnEggGriller: Trump really came through for her.


Funny'd.
 
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2020-12-03 1:13:24 PM  
Well it's something, I won't really start cheering until the infection and death rates plummet though.
I guess not having flipper babies would also be a good thing.
 
2020-12-03 1:16:55 PM  

KarmicDisaster: Leader O'Cola: Leader O'Cola: too little , too late

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/iPlC-5Kg​YXw]


really wish it were possible to see who smarts/funnies posts.

Then you could see self-smarters.


Smarted.
 
2020-12-03 1:18:05 PM  

FormlessOne: And, again, it has to be stated - the FDA has not yet approved any vaccine, even for emergency use, so what you're hearing is "we're taking a huge gamble and manufacturing the current vaccine at speed in an attempt to pressure the FDA to approve what we have."

A true shiatshow.


Agreed. This is a really good article on how it is all going to go down:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chunkamu​i​/2020/09/24/the-happy-talk-about-covid​-19-vaccines-and-herd-immunity-is-dead​ly/

The only thing I will say is, I went out of my way to just pay attention to actual experts. Almost all of them didn't expect anywhere near a 90% effectiveness rate for the vaccine. Most were saying 75% would be great...but they would be happy if it was 50%.

If the 90% rate is true, good for them. I do find it a little fishy, though.
 
2020-12-03 1:22:49 PM  
Ha! I self smarted my self smarter post!
 
2020-12-03 1:24:21 PM  

BigGrnEggGriller: FarkingSmurf: I hope my mother is in one of the higher tiers for receiving the vaccine.  She's a lung cancer/surgery survivor twice and 70+ y/o.  Once she has the vaccine I will have a HUGE sigh of relief.

Trump really came through for her.  I hope she appreciates that.


...by scrapping the pandemic response plans in 2018? By telling everyone they don't need to wear a mask if it messes up their makeup or if they just don't wanna? By calling our disease-watchers we had posted in China home? By belittling the danger for months? By suggesting we should put UV lights up our asses?

With a history like that, you'll forgive us for never taking his bragging at face value, either about creating a vaccine or anything else.
 
2020-12-03 1:31:17 PM  
Hope? LOL
I have such sights to show you - 2021
 
2020-12-03 1:39:33 PM  
I don't know that fark can survive the loss of covid-19 and Trump in the same year.
 
2020-12-03 1:43:04 PM  

dericwater: Vaccines aren't cures. They're prophylactics: they cause an immune response from the body. If you're sick from COVID-19, getting the vaccine won't do you any good.


But since an infection does not provide long-term immunity, those who were sick earlier in the year will need the vaccine anyway.
 
2020-12-03 1:43:36 PM  

transporter_ii: FormlessOne: And, again, it has to be stated - the FDA has not yet approved any vaccine, even for emergency use, so what you're hearing is "we're taking a huge gamble and manufacturing the current vaccine at speed in an attempt to pressure the FDA to approve what we have."

A true shiatshow.

Agreed. This is a really good article on how it is all going to go down:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chunkamui​/2020/09/24/the-happy-talk-about-covid​-19-vaccines-and-herd-immunity-is-dead​ly/

The only thing I will say is, I went out of my way to just pay attention to actual experts. Almost all of them didn't expect anywhere near a 90% effectiveness rate for the vaccine. Most were saying 75% would be great...but they would be happy if it was 50%.

If the 90% rate is true, good for them. I do find it a little fishy, though.


"Given the cold hard math, Madara fears that we're likely to be dealing with Covid-19 for three years, and perhaps as long as five."

Ugh.  I already haven't seen my friends (different state, long drive, hotel required) for 1 year.  Literally a full year with no physical contact, no socializing, nothing.  I'm going to lose my mind if this lasts 5 years.
 
2020-12-03 2:06:44 PM  
Reminds me of the scene in JAWS where Quint is telling the Indianapolis sinking story and waiting for his turn to get on the plane.

/I'll never put on a life jacket again.
 
2020-12-03 2:14:47 PM  

BigGrnEggGriller: FarkingSmurf: I hope my mother is in one of the higher tiers for receiving the vaccine.  She's a lung cancer/surgery survivor twice and 70+ y/o.  Once she has the vaccine I will have a HUGE sigh of relief.

Trump really came through for her.  I hope she appreciates that.


She very much appreciates what he's(hasn't) done for the country and showed that appreciation at the ballot box in Nov. Bonus: she lives in GA :)
 
2020-12-03 2:35:30 PM  

NM Volunteer: dericwater: Vaccines aren't cures. They're prophylactics: they cause an immune response from the body. If you're sick from COVID-19, getting the vaccine won't do you any good.

But since an infection does not provide long-term immunity, those who were sick earlier in the year will need the vaccine anyway.


That could be true. What I was getting at is if a patient is lying prone with a ventilator down his windpipe, getting an injection is more likely to kill him than help him.
 
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