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(The Hill)   UPS gives Amazon a handy   (thehill.com) divider line
    More: Obvious, Christmas and holiday season, Retailing, Wall Street Journal, Black Friday, shipping company attempts, holiday season, larger customers, various UPS workers  
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2020-12-03 5:50:24 AM  
And now we see why Amazon is building its own fleet.
 
2020-12-03 6:27:42 AM  
I had a UPS delivery the other day. It was unusual because there were two UPS employees, and they were in a older Chevy Tahoe. I happened to be in my yard and I said "*that's* not the usual Package Car (UPS' term for their step vans)" She grinned and said "UPS be doing all kinds of different stuff right now."
 
2020-12-03 6:52:09 AM  
Apparently they're still picking up from Best Buy, just got an order delivered by them.

Still prefer them to Amazon's service, as they're actually consistent with drop off time.  With Amazon's service, am I getting it at noon? Am I getting it at 7 that night? Yeah they have an "estimated delivery window" but I've had it shift at the last minute more often than be accurate from the start.
 
2020-12-03 7:03:56 AM  
In my hood, I've been seeing both FedEx and UPS delivering via plain white vans and UHaul trucks. Which, has to make keeping track of the packages a pain in the ass.

Some of the retailers with DFW area warehouses have started using a local carrier.
 
2020-12-03 8:54:34 AM  
I have about half a dozen packages in various stages of not here for weeks with UPS, FedEx, and USPS. Amazon prime continues to deliver in three days. Which is too bad because most of what amazon has for christmas is crap.
 
2020-12-03 9:10:39 AM  

Unobtanium: I had a UPS delivery the other day. It was unusual because there were two UPS employees, and they were in a older Chevy Tahoe. I happened to be in my yard and I said "*that's* not the usual Package Car (UPS' term for their step vans)" She grinned and said "UPS be doing all kinds of different stuff right now."


They've been using personal vehicle drivers more the past couple of holiday seasons.  It's odd to see one of them with a driver helper, normally it's one or the other, but it might have been the driver's first day on the job and the other person was showing them the ropes or something.  This time of year is chaos for them at the best of times, and this year more so than most for several different reasons.
 
2020-12-03 9:14:20 AM  

jjorsett: And now we see why Amazon is building its own fleet.


I've found Amazon's drivers to be the worst between UPS, USPS, and FedEx
 
2020-12-03 9:17:29 AM  
"the delivery company announced the temporary shipping restrictions on the retailers, which also included L.L. Bean, Hot Topic and Newegg."

Holy crap. Hot Topic still exists?
 
2020-12-03 9:37:18 AM  

Chemlight Battery: "the delivery company announced the temporary shipping restrictions on the retailers, which also included L.L. Bean, Hot Topic and Newegg."

Holy crap. Hot Topic still exists?


I'm stunned they are doing this to Newegg. That's some ballsy stuff right there.
 
2020-12-03 9:39:29 AM  
I guess my package from Newegg this morning got out just before this policy was enacted.
 
2020-12-03 10:23:07 AM  
My town has like 300 people so the post office delivers our Amazons
 
2020-12-03 10:24:39 AM  
Isn't this anticompetitive behavior? I'm assuming everybody's paying for the same service, and UPS is favoring its bigger accounts.

// of course if Amazon is actually inducing UPS to do this that would be even more damning.
 
2020-12-03 10:25:05 AM  

jayphat: Chemlight Battery: "the delivery company announced the temporary shipping restrictions on the retailers, which also included L.L. Bean, Hot Topic and Newegg."

Holy crap. Hot Topic still exists?

I'm stunned they are doing this to Newegg. That's some ballsy stuff right there.


This. A lot of the places mentioned are physical retailers. Newegg definitely competes with Amazon on some stuff.
 
2020-12-03 11:00:44 AM  
I recently had a package dropped off, I heard the guy on my porch.  When I went out to get it, I didn't see a delivery van, but then noticed a guy in a UPS vest, pulling packages out of the trunk of his crappy old sedan and putting them on the passenger seat before driving off for the next delivery.
 
2020-12-03 11:19:45 AM  

Cyber Duck: I recently had a package dropped off, I heard the guy on my porch.  When I went out to get it, I didn't see a delivery van, but then noticed a guy in a UPS vest, pulling packages out of the trunk of his crappy old sedan and putting them on the passenger seat before driving off for the next delivery.


Back when first lockdown happened and there was a shipping crunch, I got a UPS delivery from a temp worker in her early 2000s Ford Ranger (with topper).

But nothing beats last week with a UPS-vested worker dropping off packages in a 4 door Honda. Looks ike Uber/Lyft drivers picking up shifts when there's a real transport crunch going on.
 
2020-12-03 11:43:26 AM  
UPS had been delivering with a funky while pulling a trailer. I guess it's an upgrade from last year where it was a regular bike pulling a trailer.

Last week I had an Amazon order with a few different items. On the same day I got part of the order delivered by fed ex, another part via UPS and the rest via USPS.
 
2020-12-03 11:45:16 AM  

SafetyThird: UPS had been delivering with a funky while pulling a trailer. I guess it's an upgrade from last year where it was a regular bike pulling a trailer.

Last week I had an Amazon order with a few different items. On the same day I got part of the order delivered by fed ex, another part via UPS and the rest via USPS.


Funky ebike
 
2020-12-03 12:11:30 PM  

Arkanaut: Isn't this anticompetitive behavior? I'm assuming everybody's paying for the same service, and UPS is favoring its bigger accounts.

// of course if Amazon is actually inducing UPS to do this that would be even more damning.


if you clickthrough to the WSJ article, you find this tidbit:

UPS and rival FedEx Corp. have raised prices and promised to hold merchants to volume agreements.
The temporary limits, which some drivers say they haven't seen during previous holiday seasons, are a sign that UPS is metering the flow of packages into its network to preserve its performance during one of the busiest shipping weeks of the year. The National Retail Federation estimated that online shopping jumped 44% over a recent five-day stretch that included Black Friday and Cyber Monday.
 
2020-12-03 1:20:44 PM  

Cyber Duck: I recently had a package dropped off, I heard the guy on my porch.  When I went out to get it, I didn't see a delivery van, but then noticed a guy in a UPS vest, pulling packages out of the trunk of his crappy old sedan and putting them on the passenger seat before driving off for the next delivery.


We've gotten a UPS package delivered by the very same Enterprise fleet 15-pax van that my wife vanpooled in until March.  Parked the back seats somewhere, filled 'er up. Seems like a pretty good use there.
 
2020-12-03 6:51:26 PM  
Our local UPS distribution center parking lot is so full of rental vans for additional capacity that it looks like a valet lot. Must take them 30 minutes just to get out every morning.
 
2020-12-04 10:18:03 AM  
  I ordered a new CPU from Amazon last week. It was due to arrive Monday, got pushed back to Tuesday, changed to "running late" Wednesday, and then changed to "Undeliverable" and "order canceled" yesterday. According to the detailed shipping it came from Houston, went to Tennessee, moved around three times here  New Orleans, and then just disappeared.

I'm still waiting for my refund...

This is the second time Amazon did this to me this year.
 
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