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2020-12-02 1:55:54 PM  
"Stronger than the living personification of weakness" isn't much to brag about.
 
2020-12-02 2:52:34 PM  

bloobeary: "Stronger than the living personification of weakness" isn't much to brag about.


And that is his strength

/ if you do everything wrong and still succeed something is going on and this "magic" appeals to his base.
 
2020-12-02 3:47:34 PM  
It means that Donnie's idea for a new network are going to about as well as his beef ventures.

Which, from Donnie's point of view is OK, because he can still launder through a struggling network. Kinda.
 
2020-12-02 4:49:57 PM  

AlgaeRancher: if you do everything wrong and still succeed


Except, he doesn't. He just loses and then declares victory. He still lost, and only idiots still buy his crap.

Yes, there are a lot of idiots, but the fact that they all agree on something stupid doesn't change the facts.
 
2020-12-02 5:12:59 PM  
FOXNews will do its best get a dictator elected. We're getting closer.
 
2020-12-02 5:26:11 PM  

edmo: FOXNews will do its best get a dictator elected installed. We're getting closer.


Don't mean to seem pedantic (well, okay, too pedantic), but this was an important fix.
 
2020-12-02 5:32:11 PM  
Old people don't know how to work the remote control. They know "on" and they know "off." Of course they're still watching FOX News.
 
2020-12-02 5:34:38 PM  
"Stronger than Trump" isn't much of an accomplishment.
 
2020-12-02 5:35:05 PM  

Courtney Cox-Zucker: Old people don't know how to work the remote control. They know "on" and they know "off." Of course they're still watching FOX News.


CHERYL HOW DO YOU GET THE ALEXA TO WORK...SAY HI TO THE GRAND KIDS...LOVE PP
 
2020-12-02 5:35:14 PM  
Well he only started his attack a few weeks ago, give the crying baby and his cult some time.
 
2020-12-02 5:35:38 PM  
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2020-12-02 5:36:51 PM  
Bad. Trump has maybe 10 years or so left. Fox will be with us for much longer.
 
2020-12-02 5:37:20 PM  
Old conservatives are terrified of change. It's kind of their mission statement. So Fox News was never in danger of losing their core audience.

And it doesn't hurt that OANN and Newsmax's production values absolutely suck.
 
2020-12-02 5:38:30 PM  
Fox News has money.

Just throwing that out there.
 
2020-12-02 5:39:32 PM  
Meh, people don't like change.  Old people aren't internet folk and definitely don't like change.  Why the fark else would they want Republicans.  You know, the party trying to take the country back to when everything was great.  Women at home watching over the brood and cooking in the kitchen while men worked real men jobs and could support his family.  Gay people didn't exist.  A fantasy world if you will.

Most of these newer upstarts like Newsmax and OANN aren't syndicated and the only way to really watch them is online, even then they're getting timeouts from the likes of YT.  So it is change and a hassle to watch them.

So while grandma and grandpa may make a Facebook post about how the commies have taken over fox and they'll never watch it, they'll still turn on their TV and it will be stuck on the same channel it has been since 2008 when a colored man took the presidency.
 
2020-12-02 5:41:18 PM  
Last month, Trump put in plain terms how he saw the relationship between himself and the network: He was the "Golden Goose," and Fox News "forgot what made them successful, what got them there.

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If it wasn't for Fox treating Trump like a serious candidate and slapping his orange face in front of what turned out to be his target audience he wouldn't have come anywhere near to winning. The gratitude he shows Fox shows just who he really is if you needed yet another reminder of how Trump is a total coont.
 
2020-12-02 5:41:29 PM  
You don't pick a fight with a man who buys his ink by the barrel.
 
2020-12-02 5:42:54 PM  
fta: "...despite a temporary dip in ratings after the election - Fox News is poised to end the year as popular as it's ever been. Stronger, even."

Well, yeah.

FNC is GOP-TV.

It was before Trump and it will remain so after he is gone from power.

This  is like RWers swearing off Twitter for Parler but then running back to Twitter to biatch about Twitter.

Still the ultimate effect here will be to shift the media's Overton window the same way the GOP have done with their slide to the far right.
 
2020-12-02 5:43:22 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: "Stronger than Trump" isn't much of an accomplishment.


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2020-12-02 5:43:58 PM  

stoli n coke: Old conservatives are terrified of change. It's kind of their mission statement. So Fox News was never in danger of losing their core audience.

And it doesn't hurt that OANN and Newsmax's production values absolutely suck.


Well, and Fox will either deliberately not air info that's against message, or airs lies, but not just flat out lunacy. OANN and RSBN or whatever are just obviously a step above the loony screaming doomsday on the sidewalk. Barely better than a random bigot's YouTube, with the types of lies most people just can't manage to believe, no matter how hard they want to.  It's seriously flat-earth, moon landing was faked tier garbage.  I Think they'll be splitting conservatives between stupid assholes to Fox and lunatic assholes to the others.
 
2020-12-02 5:45:13 PM  
Fox News is the disease.  Trump is just a symptom.
 
2020-12-02 5:46:23 PM  
I don't know which one is stronger, but they are both high-level Hazardous Toxic Waste Sites, that function as negative vortexes to Humanity, and must be resisted.
 
2020-12-02 5:49:26 PM  
rI think Trump and his most staunch supporters are overestimating how many of the 73+ million people who voted for him are true "Trumpers." There's a faction of that 73+ million who are Trumpers, for sure. But there's a vastly larger number of people who are going to vote Republican no matter who the nominee is, because they're lifelong conservatives. So when the Trumpers talk about how they'll "go to war" and there's 73 million of them willing to fight to protect Trump, they're wrong. But for some very statistically minor exceptions, people who identify as Republican are going to vote that way no matter who the nominee is. People who identify as Democrat are going to vote that way no matter who the nominee is. It takes true mavericks, like Obama, or Reagan or Kennedy, to get large numbers of people to vote against the nominee of the party they identify with.

Fox News no doubt knows that they've lost the Trumper part of their Republican audience, but that still leaves a huge number of Conservatives who don't buy the bullshiat peddled by OANN or Newsmax, or even Trump himself.
 
2020-12-02 5:55:31 PM  

Cache: Fox News is the disease.  Trump is just a symptom.


This.

"'Together, just five companies -- Viacom, the parent of CBS, Disney, owner of ABC, News Corp, NBC and AOL, owner of Time Warner -- now control 75 percent of all primetime viewing.' The same goes for local news as well, with corporations like the Sinclair Broadcast Group -- a company that owned just 12 stations in 1996 -- accumulating more than 50 stations since, most of which have seen their newsrooms gutted in favor of pre-packaged, centrally produced news, almost none of which is local.

McChesney says the move happened for a fairly simple reason, saying that once corporations realized they could make money off the news-rather than just viewing it as a public service-they started 'making that a joke, too.' As he notes, the move made it so 'they could still put on what's called a news show, but it's mostly just fluff and trivia and 23-year-olds spewing out talking points that they read on a teleprompter, having no idea what the fark they're talking about, fortunately for them.'

That kind of mindless newsreading has real consequences, too. As Common Cause notes in its position paper, 'In 2002, more than half of TV stations in the nation's top 50 markets completely ignored state and congressional elections in their highest rated local news programs in the weeks leading up to those elections, with large station owners offering the least election coverage of all.'

McChesney takes it further, saying, 'What little coverage there is, is mostly gossip, spin, and speculation, or basically what's spoon-fed to them by party elites and insiders and big shots accepting all their biases as the appropriate way to view the world. It's impossible to exaggerate just how nutritionless this so-called journalism is.' In other words, viewers of most stations get lots of Donald Trump news, but almost nothing about city council elections or even state representatives."

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2020-12-02 6:07:26 PM  
"Despite the president's constant and increasing attacks against Fox News since 2016, the network has remained at the top, with ratings that far exceed its more liberal competitors CNN and MSNBC. "

How much of Fox's ratings dominance is due to it not really competing for the same eyes that all of the other major networks are competing for?

I mean, they are "liberal" mostly because they weren't created specifically to push a right-wing partisan narrative.  Consumers who don't want a right-wing partisan narrative have multiple other networks to consume content from.  But, until recently, the only major player in the partisan right-wing narrative news network sphere has been Fox News.
 
2020-12-02 6:12:13 PM  
Who cares, shoot them both!
 
2020-12-02 6:33:34 PM  

hubiestubert: It means that Donnie's idea for a new network are going to about as well as his beef ventures.

Which, from Donnie's point of view is OK, because he can still launder through a struggling network. Kinda.


It also means when the republicans are done with him he will be reduced to jack shiat.
 
2020-12-02 6:38:33 PM  
Which one itches more? Crabs or diaper rash?
 
2020-12-02 6:40:50 PM  

quatchi: fta: "...despite a temporary dip in ratings after the election - Fox News is poised to end the year as popular as it's ever been. Stronger, even."

Well, yeah.

FNC is GOP-TV.

It was before Trump and it will remain so after he is gone from power.

This  is like RWers swearing off Twitter for Parler but then running back to Twitter to biatch about Twitter.

Still the ultimate effect here will be to shift the media's Overton window the same way the GOP have done with their slide to the far right.


Exactly.

Those right wingers aren't going to abandon Fox just because their dear leader got deposed. These are the same people who swore off the NFL due to players kneeling and were watching three weeks later to check on their fantasy football team standings. They may be mad right now at Fox, but they'll be some other right wing darling to swoon over or some lib to own eventually.

OANN and the like show fealty to Trump and Trump alone. They'll be popular for a few months kissing Trump's ass 24/7 until the right wingers fall in love with someone else and they'll slink back to Fox.
 
2020-12-02 6:48:32 PM  

JAGChem82: quatchi: fta: "...despite a temporary dip in ratings after the election - Fox News is poised to end the year as popular as it's ever been. Stronger, even."

Well, yeah.

FNC is GOP-TV.

It was before Trump and it will remain so after he is gone from power.

This  is like RWers swearing off Twitter for Parler but then running back to Twitter to biatch about Twitter.

Still the ultimate effect here will be to shift the media's Overton window the same way the GOP have done with their slide to the far right.

Exactly.

Those right wingers aren't going to abandon Fox just because their dear leader got deposed. These are the same people who swore off the NFL due to players kneeling and were watching three weeks later to check on their fantasy football team standings. They may be mad right now at Fox, but they'll be some other right wing darling to swoon over or some lib to own eventually.

OANN and the like show fealty to Trump and Trump alone. They'll be popular for a few months kissing Trump's ass 24/7 until the right wingers fall in love with someone else and they'll slink back to Fox.


Idk about that.  Fox will be fine.  I'm saying the Trump thing.  He's not going anywhere unless he is in the federal pen or does, his base is not going to just disappear because he is no longer president.

This "steal" is just going to ramp them up even more and have them aggrieved for years to come.  Until we find a way to deprogram 40-50 million people this isn't a fad.  Even then they'll just jump to failson 1 or 2 or even Failson-in-law or daughter.

These people are going down with the ship.  Their brains are addled.  Trump is such a narcissist now that he has the high of being worshipped he isn't just going to walk away from it.
 
2020-12-02 6:51:37 PM  

WordsnCollision: Smelly Pirate Hooker: "Stronger than Trump" isn't much of an accomplishment.

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2020-12-02 7:24:42 PM  
I fear that by letting them fight to the death, we are creating the most reality-resistant strain of derp.
 
2020-12-02 10:51:33 PM  

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