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(The Onion)   Ron Howard defends Hillbilly Elegy movie: "Their real-life struggle is the same ridiculous thing over and over again. All those holler dimwits are so drunk off their asses and strung out on heroin it's impossible to make a coherent story about them"   (theonion.com) divider line
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Karma Chameleon
2020-12-02 5:12:19 PM  
35 votes:
I grew up in Appalachia and have no qualms with how Vance portrayed things although I dont agree with his politics or "just be bootstrappy" philosophy. That clearly doesnt work and the chemical and coal industries have constantly killed, poisoned and/or bankrupted millions of people for decades. But at the same time Appalachians dont seem to want to stop being victims and there is no denying they vote against their own interests. I don't know how I fix people like that. I got out. Some have criticized me for it instead of staying and trying to make it better, but I doubt I would be alive right now if I had stayed. It's a toxic region from top to bottom, often literally.
 
darkhorse23 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-12-02 3:31:08 PM  
15 votes:
Bullshiat. JD Vance and his Hillbilly poverty porn. "It's their fault they're poor, but look at me, I'm better than the people I left".
 
Fano
2020-12-02 5:21:49 PM  
10 votes:

darkhorse23: Bullshiat. JD Vance and his Hillbilly poverty porn. "It's their fault they're poor, but look at me, I'm better than the people I left".


Well he is. fark those people.
 
snoopy2zero
2020-12-02 4:55:43 PM  
10 votes:
Why watch a movie, when you can jist watch the real thing.

The Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia (2009) Official Trailer #1 - Documentary Movie HD
Youtube AQBiXDNVeSA
 
darkhorse23 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-12-02 6:13:39 PM  
9 votes:

FrancoFile: darkhorse23: Bullshiat. JD Vance and his Hillbilly poverty porn. "It's their fault they're poor, but look at me, I'm better than the people I left".


Did you actually read the book?

Because that's totally not what's in it.


Yes, dear. And that's exactly what it's about. But thanks for playing.
 
winedrinkingman
2020-12-03 5:39:15 AM  
8 votes:
There is a trick about making great stories about hillbillies from Appalachia.

/have one guy who used to be a coal miner, but left to go to college and then become a Deputy US Marshal.  Make sure he wears a cowboy hat

//have second guy play the part of his best friend from the mine, who stayed in the hollows and became a leader of a Neo-Nazi, bank robbing militia.

///have them spend several seasons chasing each other around the mountains.
 
Sarien
2020-12-02 11:13:07 PM  
7 votes:

darkhorse23: Bullshiat. JD Vance and his Hillbilly poverty porn. "It's their fault they're poor, but look at me, I'm better than the people I left".


Here's the problem.  The asshole is from Ohio.  You don't have Hillbillies in Ohio.  The only thing Ohio grows are Republicans and Astronauts, and the Astronauts are because there's nowhere left on earth that's far enough away from farking Ohio.
The second thing, he's from Middletown OH, which is a city of like 50,000 people in southWESTERN farking Ohio.  There's half a state between where he's from and anything labeled Appalachia.
This dickhead had a movie made about him by Opie?

It's not a Hillbilly Elegy, it's just more Buckeye Bullshiat.
 
AAAAGGGGHHHH
2020-12-03 2:15:43 AM  
6 votes:
Hillbilly Elegy is for Libertarians who get sick of being laughed at by people for reading Atlas Shrugged.
 
ModernPrimitive01
2020-12-03 8:49:11 AM  
5 votes:
the problem with JD Vance is that he just repackages old stereotypes about people in poverty like how it's their own fault. And if only they were better people they'd be able to go to an Ivy League school like he did. It completely ignores all the larger context of institutional and systemic issues that keep people in lower socioeconomic classes from having upward mobility. It's a hard right wing argument, packaging in a nice little book. The poor are poor because they're flawed, and not the poor are poor because there are folks out there that profit from keeping them that way. There is better and actual researched books on generational poverty that doesn't just amount to "poor people are idiots" but he came on at the right time with his Appalachian angle after the 2016 election and his shiatty book blew up.
 
holdmybones
2020-12-03 12:26:51 AM  
5 votes:

Sarien: I'm from Northeastern Kentucky


I am sorry you had to grow up in Ohio though.  I think that technically counts as a disability.


I had the sense to get out and make it to colorado. How's staying in Kentucky going?

Now say Louisville so everyone can laugh.
 
holdmybones
2020-12-02 11:37:20 PM  
5 votes:

Sarien: darkhorse23: Bullshiat. JD Vance and his Hillbilly poverty porn. "It's their fault they're poor, but look at me, I'm better than the people I left".

Here's the problem.  The asshole is from Ohio.  You don't have Hillbillies in Ohio.  The only thing Ohio grows are Republicans and Astronauts, and the Astronauts are because there's nowhere left on earth that's far enough away from farking Ohio.
The second thing, he's from Middletown OH, which is a city of like 50,000 people in southWESTERN farking Ohio.  There's half a state between where he's from and anything labeled Appalachia.
This dickhead had a movie made about him by Opie?

It's not a Hillbilly Elegy, it's just more Buckeye Bullshiat.


His family was split between Ohio and WV, as I recall. There was a movement in the 70s and 80s that absolutely brought West Virginians into Ohio (where they absolutely already existed - albeit definitely not in Middletown). I believe it was factory work.

My family had spent 200 years in VA/WV before part of my mom's family moved to Southeastern and eastern Ohio. Almost every family in my childhood neighborhood had recently come to Ohio from all over WV. It was leach beds, and dead cars abandoned in the woods, and drunk adults yelling about shiat at 9 am, and dirt bikes and three wheelers cutting through yards.....maybe slightly refined hillbilly.
 
wildsnowllama
2020-12-02 10:00:25 PM  
5 votes:

Karma Chameleon: I grew up in Appalachia and have no qualms with how Vance portrayed things although I dont agree with his politics or "just be bootstrappy" philosophy. That clearly doesnt work and the chemical and coal industries have constantly killed, poisoned and/or bankrupted millions of people for decades. But at the same time Appalachians dont seem to want to stop being victims and there is no denying they vote against their own interests. I don't know how I fix people like that. I got out. Some have criticized me for it instead of staying and trying to make it better, but I doubt I would be alive right now if I had stayed. It's a toxic region from top to bottom, often literally.


I left Appalachia too.  The county I left has the most Covid per capita in my state.  fark them, I was done with their shiat 20 years ago and they've done nothing to prove me wrong.
 
germ78
2020-12-02 5:00:05 PM  
5 votes:
They should have had Danny Boyle give it the Trainspotting treatment.
 
Fano
2020-12-03 11:06:31 AM  
4 votes:

ModernPrimitive01: the problem with JD Vance is that he just repackages old stereotypes about people in poverty like how it's their own fault. And if only they were better people they'd be able to go to an Ivy League school like he did. It completely ignores all the larger context of institutional and systemic issues that keep people in lower socioeconomic classes from having upward mobility. It's a hard right wing argument, packaging in a nice little book. The poor are poor because they're flawed, and not the poor are poor because there are folks out there that profit from keeping them that way. There is better and actual researched books on generational poverty that doesn't just amount to "poor people are idiots" but he came on at the right time with his Appalachian angle after the 2016 election and his shiatty book blew up.


So explain how these dipshiats voted in droves for Trump?
They don't want help, they want money to perpetuate their wretched existence and horrible actions.
 
Ecobuckeye
2020-12-03 8:41:43 AM  
4 votes:

Sarien: darkhorse23: Bullshiat. JD Vance and his Hillbilly poverty porn. "It's their fault they're poor, but look at me, I'm better than the people I left".

Here's the problem.  The asshole is from Ohio.  You don't have Hillbillies in Ohio.  The only thing Ohio grows are Republicans and Astronauts, and the Astronauts are because there's nowhere left on earth that's far enough away from farking Ohio.
The second thing, he's from Middletown OH, which is a city of like 50,000 people in southWESTERN farking Ohio.  There's half a state between where he's from and anything labeled Appalachia.
This dickhead had a movie made about him by Opie?

It's not a Hillbilly Elegy, it's just more Buckeye Bullshiat.


What you have here is Hillbilly elitism, folks. Imagine being jealous of somebody somewhere else having it bad and taking some of the attention away from your miserable existence.
 
cameroncrazy1984 [recently expired TotalFark]
2020-12-02 6:12:59 PM  
4 votes:
NPR's fawning review of this book is the start of me no longer listening to NPR.
 
FrancoFile [TotalFark]
2020-12-02 5:07:38 PM  
4 votes:

darkhorse23: Bullshiat. JD Vance and his Hillbilly poverty porn. "It's their fault they're poor, but look at me, I'm better than the people I left".



Did you actually read the book?

Because that's totally not what's in it.
 
ModernPrimitive01
2020-12-03 1:35:25 PM  
3 votes:

Fano: ModernPrimitive01: the problem with JD Vance is that he just repackages old stereotypes about people in poverty like how it's their own fault. And if only they were better people they'd be able to go to an Ivy League school like he did. It completely ignores all the larger context of institutional and systemic issues that keep people in lower socioeconomic classes from having upward mobility. It's a hard right wing argument, packaging in a nice little book. The poor are poor because they're flawed, and not the poor are poor because there are folks out there that profit from keeping them that way. There is better and actual researched books on generational poverty that doesn't just amount to "poor people are idiots" but he came on at the right time with his Appalachian angle after the 2016 election and his shiatty book blew up.

So explain how these dipshiats voted in droves for Trump?
They don't want help, they want money to perpetuate their wretched existence and horrible actions.


Almost half the country voted for Trump. You could say the same thing about tons of areas in the U.S. But keep perpetuating those stereotypes. It's real useful
 
Heamer [BareFark]
2020-12-03 11:29:53 AM  
3 votes:
My dad grew up in Appalachian Tennessee and got the f*ck out in the '60s. He said he never regretted it.
 
the voice of raisin [TotalFark]
2020-12-03 2:42:37 AM  
3 votes:

Karma Chameleon: I grew up in Appalachia and have no qualms with how Vance portrayed things although I dont agree with his politics or "just be bootstrappy" philosophy. That clearly doesnt work and the chemical and coal industries have constantly killed, poisoned and/or bankrupted millions of people for decades. But at the same time Appalachians dont seem to want to stop being victims and there is no denying they vote against their own interests. I don't know how I fix people like that. I got out. Some have criticized me for it instead of staying and trying to make it better, but I doubt I would be alive right now if I had stayed. It's a toxic region from top to bottom, often literally.


I learned a while back the hard way that you can't help people who don't want to be helped.

I've helped a few people improve their situation, whom I've since lost touch with, but I always make sure they're putting in the effort first and I havent regretted extending myself even when it made me uncomfortable.
 
indy_kid [recently expired TotalFark]
2020-12-03 12:57:49 AM  
3 votes:

Crewmannumber6: For a minute there I thought this was serious


It does explain why so much of KY keeps voting for Mitch term after term.
 
Wine Sipping Elitist [TotalFark]
2020-12-02 5:05:36 PM  
3 votes:
I saw it. I liked it. It was heartbreaking. I didn't know anything about the movie before watching it, so maybe that's why I liked it.

A man had to choose between taking care of his abusive, strung out mother or living his own life and breaking the cycle. I thought it was a false choice and would've picked a third option, but I could live with his decision.

/been there, done that
 
RankStranger
2020-12-03 9:51:07 PM  
2 votes:
The same sjw that cream themselves to call out any thing that is or might be stereotyping of a group, just mindlessly gives the term hillbilly a pass as justified. No other group slapdown would be allowed or funded unless the author changed the name
As someone said in a comment on the book and movie, so many people and farkers believe Deliverance is a documentary.
 
jaytkay [OhFark]
2020-12-03 11:07:15 AM  
2 votes:

holdmybones: My family had spent 200 years in VA/WV before part of my mom's family moved to Southeastern and eastern Ohio. Almost every family in my childhood neighborhood had recently come to Ohio from all over WV. It was leach beds, and dead cars abandoned in the woods, and drunk adults yelling about shiat at 9 am, and dirt bikes and three wheelers cutting through yards.....maybe slightly refined hillbilly.


My first week in the Uptown neighborhood of Chicago in the 80s I saw a white guy dragging his wife by the hair outside my window. I saw my only genuine bar brawl with white women throwing chairs and the bartender throwing booze bottles. White kids hung out in the alley huffing "tolly" (toluene paint thinner) from socks.

At the library I looked up the history of the neighborhood and found it was a magnet for Appalachian immigrants in the 1940s and 1950s. I guess I was seeing their great- and great-great-grandkids.
 
stoli n coke
2020-12-02 10:03:14 PM  
2 votes:

jjwars1: cameroncrazy1984: NPR's fawning review of this book is the start of me no longer listening to NPR.

Why?


Because NPR is unlistenable radio?
 
alienated
2020-12-02 8:42:01 PM  
2 votes:

darkhorse23: FrancoFile: darkhorse23: Bullshiat. JD Vance and his Hillbilly poverty porn. "It's their fault they're poor, but look at me, I'm better than the people I left".


Did you actually read the book?

Because that's totally not what's in it.

Yes, dear. And that's exactly what it's about. But thanks for playing.



Have not seen the film but did read the book, and instead of trying to do good, he became an investment banker or something like that. Ah, vulture capitalist per the wiki thing. Figures.
 
some_beer_drinker [TotalFark]
2020-12-02 4:41:49 PM  
2 votes:
well, now im gonna watch it. i watched tenet this morning. what a mind fark.
 
Fano
2020-12-03 3:54:03 PM  
1 vote:
Also, nothing is ever a hillbillies fault
 
Fano
2020-12-03 3:17:38 PM  
1 vote:

ModernPrimitive01: Fano: ModernPrimitive01: the problem with JD Vance is that he just repackages old stereotypes about people in poverty like how it's their own fault. And if only they were better people they'd be able to go to an Ivy League school like he did. It completely ignores all the larger context of institutional and systemic issues that keep people in lower socioeconomic classes from having upward mobility. It's a hard right wing argument, packaging in a nice little book. The poor are poor because they're flawed, and not the poor are poor because there are folks out there that profit from keeping them that way. There is better and actual researched books on generational poverty that doesn't just amount to "poor people are idiots" but he came on at the right time with his Appalachian angle after the 2016 election and his shiatty book blew up.

So explain how these dipshiats voted in droves for Trump?
They don't want help, they want money to perpetuate their wretched existence and horrible actions.

Almost half the country voted for Trump. You could say the same thing about tons of areas in the U.S. But keep perpetuating those stereotypes. It's real useful


Well it's simply the truth. Calling people f***** for wanting to study or improve themselves in any way, acting like anyone that isn't being a horrible piece of shiat is "puttin on airs," oh there was a lot accurate in that one.

The crazy thing about Jesco White and his family is that if he couldn't clog dance he would have been just like anybody else in West Virginia.
 
CzarChasm [BareFark] [OhFark]
2020-12-03 12:31:26 PM  
1 vote:

winedrinkingman: There is a trick about making great stories about hillbillies from Appalachia.

/have one guy who used to be a coal miner, but left to go to college and then become a Deputy US Marshal.  Make sure he wears a cowboy hat

//have second guy play the part of his best friend from the mine, who stayed in the hollows and became a leader of a Neo-Nazi, bank robbing militia.

///have them spend several seasons chasing each other around the mountains.


--I think you've Justified a series based on this!
 
jake_lex
2020-12-03 8:05:07 AM  
1 vote:

alienated: darkhorse23: FrancoFile: darkhorse23: Bullshiat. JD Vance and his Hillbilly poverty porn. "It's their fault they're poor, but look at me, I'm better than the people I left".


Did you actually read the book?

Because that's totally not what's in it.

Yes, dear. And that's exactly what it's about. But thanks for playing.


Have not seen the film but did read the book, and instead of trying to do good, he became an investment banker or something like that. Ah, vulture capitalist per the wiki thing. Figures.


One of the people he thanks in the book's afterword is Peter Thiel, who is about as close to a real-life Bond villain as you're going to ever get.

/either him or Musk
 
Sarien
2020-12-03 1:16:39 AM  
1 vote:

holdmybones: Sarien: I'm from Northeastern Kentucky


I am sorry you had to grow up in Ohio though.  I think that technically counts as a disability.

I had the sense to get out and make it to colorado. How's staying in Kentucky going?

Now say Louisville so everyone can laugh.


Not too bad, except for most things I guess.  Working from home is pretty nice, and it's still nowhere so that even a moderately decent salary makes you Pope of Pooptown pretty quick.  I mean it both kind of sucks and is awesome being adrift in a sea of red idiots, because though it's kinda lonesome, it also isolates me from a lot of the stupid from people I mostly agree with.  It's like being a political hermit as well as a geographical one.

Please don't make fun of Louisville.  The people that live there have it rough enough.  They can barely figure out police shooting you dead in the bed at night is a bad thing.  That's about two steps away from trying to eat sticks and mud kinds of stupid.  The kind that needs disaster relief, not ridicule.
 
JudgeSmails
2020-12-03 12:08:40 AM  
1 vote:
my husband and i watched that movie and omg is was farking horrible and not even  unintentionally hilarious like the other stink bomb The Heart of the sea that Howard also directed.   Just such shiat and terrible acting,my god stop letting Ron Howard direct things.

Also stop letting JD vance do anything,he's such an asshole and he's going to run for senate.
 
holdmybones
2020-12-02 7:13:03 PM  
1 vote:

Birnone: You Try Making A Good Movie About Farking Hillbillies

It'd be a lot easier to do if they had warshing machines their sister could get stuck in.


Ftfy
 
Marcos P
2020-12-02 6:58:48 PM  
1 vote:
I thought it was meth, not heroin?
 
CarnySaur [recently expired TotalFark]
2020-12-02 5:27:04 PM  
1 vote:
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NikolaiFarkoff [TotalFark]
2020-12-02 4:58:38 PM  
1 vote:

snoopy2zero: Why watch a movie, when you can jist watch the real thing.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/AQBiXDNV​eSA]


That's the movie I couldn't remember. What a trip...
 
Crewmannumber6
2020-12-02 4:44:30 PM  
1 vote:
For a minute there I thought this was serious
 
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