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(BBC)   Captain of Conception charged with seaman's manslaughter   (bbc.co.uk) divider line
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2020-12-02 1:27:08 PM  
Oh, come on, the sea is known to swallow seamen whether conditions are rough or smooth.
 
2020-12-02 3:18:20 PM  
Jesus, that was just last year?  Seems like years ago.
 
2020-12-02 3:26:04 PM  
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2020-12-02 3:33:55 PM  
God rest those spunky men.
 
2020-12-02 3:34:54 PM  
...and the moral of the story is: You can't go through life mishandling your seaman, it will always lead to prosecution.
 
2020-12-02 3:35:56 PM  
Nothing like using pre civil war maritime laws to destroy someone over a complete accident. Our world continues on its predatory path.
 
2020-12-02 3:42:38 PM  

Gheist: Nothing like using pre civil war maritime laws to destroy someone over a complete accident. Our world continues on its predatory path.


Found the guy who drives without insurance!!
 
2020-12-02 3:47:05 PM  

Gheist: Nothing like using pre civil war maritime laws to destroy someone over a complete accident. Our world continues on its predatory path.


Meh, these laws are there for a reason.  Firewatch is a thing for this exact reason.  The exits were also blocked, they had highly flammable chemicals on board.

If he had done things right, but they still tried to get him for not going down eith the ship or whatever, I'd agree with you.  But he basically did everything wrong and violated a whole lot of day 1 lessons on captaining a ship and then bailed at first sign of trouble.

Dude farked up pretty bad.  He should have known better.  You never leave a boat unattended overnight while at sea.  Someone should always be at the helm, not even for firewatch, but weather and other possible hazards.  While rare, shiat happens, and this is perfect example of when complacency goes wrong.
 
2020-12-02 3:48:41 PM  

Gheist: Nothing like using pre civil war maritime laws to destroy someone over a complete accident. Our world continues on its predatory path.


Agreed.  Libertarians like ourselves long for the days when a sea captain could just knock off for the day by drinking himself to sleep after stuffing his 34 passengers down a single hole in his homemade boat into quarters surrounded by a jerry-rigged lithium-ion battery charging check without a single dry run on what to do should a fire break out and not assigning a crew member to stand watch overnight, as per regulations.
 
jvl [BareFark]
2020-12-02 4:08:17 PM  

Gheist: Nothing like using pre civil war maritime laws to destroy someone over a complete accident.


The fire starting was an accident.

The lack of fire containment on the Li-ion batteries, which are well known to catch fire, was not an accident.

The lack of a smoke alarm near the Li-ion batteries was not an accident.

The lack of a roving watchman, as required by law, that would have spotted the fire and got everyone out was not an accident.

The lack of two fully-functioning exits, as required by law, was not an accident.

People dying due to negligence is literally the definition of manslaughter, which is what the captain is charged with. Get this "complete accident" shiat out of here.
 
2020-12-02 4:18:06 PM  
I was going to complain about reach, Subby, as most killed were passengers. But there was one crewperson killed and you used the singular, so....*golf clap*
 
2020-12-02 4:49:13 PM  

thegourmez: I was going to complain about reach, Subby, as most killed were passengers. But there was one crewperson killed and you used the singular, so....*golf clap*


Technically correct is the best kind of correct.
 
2020-12-02 5:59:02 PM  

Gheist: a complete accident


If they had working smoke detectors and/or posted a fire watch as required by the law, everyone would be alive today.
 
2020-12-02 6:01:04 PM  

jvl: The lack of two fully-functioning exits


They had two exits. One was an emergency escape hatch that was small and difficult to use, but it was grandfathered by old regulations. And I'm sure the safety briefing consisted of pointing in the general direction of the emergency exit and saying "It's right there" with no instructions or demonstrations on use.
 
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