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(The Hill)   Perhaps if everything Trump does wasn't an actual crime, there would be less people saying he commits crimes   (thehill.com) divider line
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2020-12-02 9:33:28 AM  
You would say that, wouldn't you, convicted felon Conrad Black?
 
2020-12-02 9:35:52 AM  
"Fraud is not a criminal allegation!"
 
2020-12-02 9:41:03 AM  
Fuhrer, subbo.
 
2020-12-02 10:08:36 AM  
No, the crimes are crimes.  The rest is mostly just poor decisions with the occasional head scratcher when he manages to do something right.
 
2020-12-02 10:14:47 AM  
I could carefewer that subby is carefewerly misusing; irregardless, er, regardfewer I mean, their is fewer hear that meats the I and I am fewer inclined to whether the storm.
 
2020-12-02 10:32:52 AM  
Fewer.
 
2020-12-02 11:17:42 AM  
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2020-12-02 11:18:39 AM  
They forgot the legal disclaimer at bottom:

This Trump fellating opinion piece should in no way be construed in whole or in part as a quid pro quo for the full pardon granted to its author by President Donald J Trump.
 
2020-12-02 11:19:20 AM  
If it ain't a crime it ain't worth Donnie's time.
 
2020-12-02 11:19:55 AM  
It's not criminal when a Republican does it.
But when a Democrat doesn't do it, there are years and years of investigations and hearings over it.
 
2020-12-02 11:21:16 AM  
Yes, by all means let's give the benefit of the doubt to the guy who bragged he could shoot someone and get away with it.
 
2020-12-02 11:21:26 AM  
In their defense, it's really difficult to point out all the non-crimes under the giant pile of crimes.

"Gee, it's really difficult finding that piece of straw in the needle stack."
 
2020-12-02 11:21:41 AM  
Not everything he does is criminal, except the ones that conflict with existing laws and statutes.  those are usually demonstrated by someone with an actual knowledge of the law, and often include a reference to the very law that was violated.

being an ass is not illegal, but the vindictive and reckless acts taken by mere impulse can be.
 
2020-12-02 11:22:55 AM  

dionysusaur: Fuhrer, subbo.


I knew there was no way I could be the first to make that joke.  Dammit.
 
2020-12-02 11:23:01 AM  
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2020-12-02 11:23:25 AM  
People say to me all the time, they've never seen an innocent man (and his family and associates) work so hard to appear so guilty.
 
2020-12-02 11:26:29 AM  
"Former Convicted & Incarcerated White Collar Thief Defends Fellow White In Hopes of An Eventual Pardon - Details to Follow"

....oh, also Conrad - it was inappropriate for Reagan to bring that up - why is it necessary to find any empathy for that time beyond The Holocaust. Who was the one in the State Department that said, "ya know? We should highlight this point - he's your closet white nationalist.
 
2020-12-02 11:26:32 AM  
Ok. Here is the list. This is probably the most complete account of all the things Trump has done. If you're still  wondering "What this about Pardoning himself, for what exactly?" this may help answer that question. It looks like they are keeping it up to date as well, which is super helpful. So many scandals, so little time...

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/t​h​e-complete-listing-so-far-atrocities-1​-1-004
 
2020-12-02 11:27:27 AM  
"Trump has been audited steadily by the IRS for 40 years - and all of those issues are civil disagreements on a quantum of tax; no fraud or false returns have been alleged "

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2020-12-02 11:28:58 AM  

RasIanI: "Former Convicted & Incarcerated White Collar Thief Defends Fellow White In Hopes of An Eventual Pardon - Details to Follow"

....oh, also Conrad - it was inappropriate for Reagan to bring that up - why is it necessary to find any empathy for that time beyond The Holocaust. Who was the one in the State Department that said, "ya know? We should highlight this point - he's your closet white nationalist.


Convicted felon Conrad Black received a pardon for his criminal misdeeds last year.
 
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2020-12-02 11:30:06 AM  

mofa: Fewer.


shhh don't call him that in public, at least not until he's able to seize power.
 
2020-12-02 11:30:08 AM  

HugeMistake: You would say that, wouldn't you, convicted felon Conrad Black?


Lord Black

I thought we fought a war to tell English Nobility to Fark Off and go back to cousin Farking and drinking tea with their pinky up their own arse
 
2020-12-02 11:31:58 AM  

Maneck: RasIanI: "Former Convicted & Incarcerated White Collar Thief Defends Fellow White In Hopes of An Eventual Pardon - Details to Follow"

....oh, also Conrad - it was inappropriate for Reagan to bring that up - why is it necessary to find any empathy for that time beyond The Holocaust. Who was the one in the State Department that said, "ya know? We should highlight this point - he's your closet white nationalist.

Convicted felon Conrad Black received a pardon for his criminal misdeeds last year.


Ooops - my bad. Still sucking up, I guess.
 
2020-12-02 11:32:46 AM  
Keep in mind this was written by the "man" whose actions the term "Kleptocracy" was coined to describe.  And who went to Federal prison as a result of those actions.

A 'man" who was filmed going into his office in the middle of the night to try to destroy evidence, and he even screwed that up.

He is Canada's version of Newt Gingrich.  He writes and talks the way dumb people think smart people write and talk.
 
2020-12-02 11:33:48 AM  
The stupid trash who support the guy making up ridiculous voter fraud claims, who chanted for Hillary to be locked up over her imaginary murders, or some imaginary email crimes that don't result in jail even if real, who voted for a birther... that trash wants you to know that they have a problem with you making up baseless accusations against the guy who took a whole page ad demanding the death penalty against five teens wrongly accused of rape and doubled down on it after their innocence had been established.
 
2020-12-02 11:36:25 AM  
Anyone around here ever wonder why I refer to this rag as "The sHill"?

Cos... THIS.

This shiat right here.

Conrad f**king Black trying to pretend Trump isn't a criminal who never broke the law with his taxes, never obstructed justice, never abused his office for profit, engaged in gross nepotism, conspired with Putin or did anything that was a crime.

So glad he is the UKs problem now.
 
2020-12-02 11:38:51 AM  
FTFA:

(who clearly was not guilty of any illegalities yet was persecuted relentlessly by Trump's enemies)

If the man wasn't guilty of any crimes, then why did he, oh, I dunno, PLEAD GUILTY TO SOME GODDAM CRIMES?!
 
2020-12-02 11:39:35 AM  
Haha,

This part of TFA hasn't aged well already.

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/See the other threads this am about Flynn's public call for Trump to go ahead military coup to stay in the White House.
 
2020-12-02 11:39:40 AM  
IF WE'RE SO GUILTY THEN HOW COME WE WON'T ARREST OURSELVES
 
2020-12-02 11:41:13 AM  
the crime is we don't have any effective mechanisms to hold him accountable for being a complete shiatstain on the presidency.

Senate Republicans don't get enough blame for Trump.
 
2020-12-02 11:46:09 AM  

RasIanI: "Former Convicted & Incarcerated White Collar Thief Defends Fellow White In Hopes of An Eventual Pardon - Details to Follow"



The pardon was last year

https://www.theguardian.com/business/​2​019/may/15/conrad-black-trump-pardons-​ex-media-mogul
 
2020-12-02 11:46:51 AM  
At the end of the article was this description:

Conrad Black is an essayist, former newspaper publisher, and author of ten books, including three on Presidents Franklin Roosevelt, Richard Nixon and Donald Trump. Follow him on Twitter @ConradMBlack.

For an article that is so pro-Trump, they really need to include the fact that Trump granted him a pardon last year.
 
2020-12-02 11:52:40 AM  
I got a few paragraphs in. He didn't crash the plane, he landed it away from the airstrip and it will never fly again. He didn't rape her, he just forced her into having sex without her consent. He didn't steal the money, he simply took it without permission. Apologist pos
 
2020-12-02 12:01:33 PM  
I always read Conrad Black columns because I almost always learn a new word.

Not reading this one though. No word I could learn would be worth wading through this.
 
2020-12-02 12:01:41 PM  
It's weird the line in Convicted Felon Conrad Black's article that jumped out at me was, in talking about Trump he said:

"He (Trump) was envisioned in "an orange jumpsuit" worn by violent inmates in high-security prisons."

That was a dog whistling dog whistle if I ever heard a dog whistle whistle.
 
2020-12-02 12:16:33 PM  
What the hell does it matter? Trump is going to whitewash his entire family with broad scoped pardons anyway.

I just hope the new AG finds some archaic loophole that allows the new administration to revoke all pardons given by Trump.

All.
Of.
Them.
 
2020-12-02 12:18:33 PM  
Oh, joy! This is going to be a fun political day on Fark. [Gets popcorn]
 
2020-12-02 12:19:27 PM  

Stantz: RasIanI: "Former Convicted & Incarcerated White Collar Thief Defends Fellow White In Hopes of An Eventual Pardon - Details to Follow"


The pardon was last year

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2​019/may/15/conrad-black-trump-pardons-​ex-media-mogul


And there's delightful speculation that his name was behind some of the redactions in the pardons for bribes scheme that was reported yesterday.
 
2020-12-02 12:21:37 PM  
Why didn't the author actually mention some real crimes that Trump has committed.

Emoluments Clause violation springs to mind and is easy low hanging fruit.
 
2020-12-02 12:22:38 PM  
Biden's Attorney General should do this: Figure out if Trump or anybody in his administration, family, or company broke any actual, specific laws.  Articles like this are mostly abstract-Black et al say Trump didn't break any laws; liberals counter that he did.

You need to be specific as to which law he broke when and how.  And the specifics need to be more than just theoretical.  That is, it's not enough to find a text of a law it looks like they broke; it needs to be something that is rountinuely prosecuted, and something that one can prove in a court of law to a jury of ordinary people, including some who are Republicans or otherwise voted for Trump.
 
2020-12-02 12:23:30 PM  

Destructor: Why didn't the author actually mention some real crimes that Trump has committed.

Emoluments Clause violation springs to mind and is easy low hanging fruit.


The problem with the Emolument Clause is that no actual law was ever written to back it up.
 
2020-12-02 12:35:34 PM  
For many years, I thought the most dishonest headline I had ever seen in a reputable newspaper was in the New York Times in 1985, reporting on President Reagan's address at a military cemetery in Bitburg, Germany: "President Equates Nazi War Dead to Holocaust Victims."
Reagan simply had stated that even 17-year-old conscripts into the German military, ignorant of the war's issues and killed in action, were victims of Nazism too.

The reason the site was contreversial was that Reagan (or more likely his people) chose to visit a grave with Waffen SS dead.  Reagan's argument would have made more sense if he visited a cemetary with Wehrmacht dead.  As most here know, there is regular army and then there is political nazi army which is the SS, including the Waffen.  There may have been conscripts at the end of the war, when Germany wasn't as picky, but for the most part, being in the Waffen SS, meant volunteering and making some effort to get into that branch of service.  They were the true believers of Nazism.So, if the very first statement you make in an article is sort of bullshiat, well......
 
2020-12-02 12:40:02 PM  

Geotpf: Destructor: Why didn't the author actually mention some real crimes that Trump has committed.

Emoluments Clause violation springs to mind and is easy low hanging fruit.

The problem with the Emolument Clause is that no actual law was ever written to back it up.


Oh. Hmm.

That seems like a glaring legislative oversight.
 
2020-12-02 1:22:28 PM  

Hey Nurse!: I got a few paragraphs in. He didn't crash the plane, he landed it away from the airstrip and it will never fly again. He didn't rape her, he just forced her into having sex without her consent. He didn't steal the money, he simply took it without permission. Apologist pos


Yes, the "he admitted doing it, but there was no conviction, so it wasn't a crime!" argument.
 
2020-12-02 1:37:34 PM  
Halfway through that tripe I thought to myself:  This must be Conrad Black.  Sure enough.

Heard him on Intelligence Squared a few years ago.  Talked on and on for 20 minutes and never made one point.
Loves hearing himself talk though.  Guess that pardon feels good.
 
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