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2020-12-02 9:58:59 AM  
No pressure at all kid
 
2020-12-02 10:35:22 AM  
Corporate and political dynasties have nothing on racing nepotism.
 
2020-12-02 12:02:03 PM  
Schumacher junior to race for ferrari junior.  Seems fitting.
 
2020-12-02 12:31:32 PM  
Only two sons of champions have then won championships. Damon Hill and Nico Rosberg. Wonder if Mick can make that three?

/Should have been three already. Gilles Villeneuve would have walked the championship in 82 if it wasn't for Pironi being a dick and the accident in Belgium.
 
2020-12-02 1:10:31 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Only two sons of champions have then won championships. Damon Hill and Nico Rosberg. Wonder if Mick can make that three?

/Should have been three already. Gilles Villeneuve would have walked the championship in 82 if it wasn't for Pironi being a dick and the accident in Belgium.


Nico is the only one who is even close to as good as his father.  But we'll have to see with Mick.  He is currently leading F2, so credit to him.  Like Nico who won GP2.
 
2020-12-02 1:15:39 PM  
I didn't even realize Ed Sullivan was still alive, let alone submitting headlines on Fark.
 
2020-12-02 1:25:32 PM  
Just keep the kid from going skiing.
 
2020-12-02 2:23:19 PM  
I understand the family is doing what they think is best for them and for Michael, but I really wonder how he's doing these days. Every now and then a rumor pops up that he's improving but a lawyer says "that's not an official statement and please leave them alone."
 
2020-12-02 2:26:28 PM  

LeftisRightisWrong: I understand the family is doing what they think is best for them and for Michael, but I really wonder how he's doing these days. Every now and then a rumor pops up that he's improving but a lawyer says "that's not an official statement and please leave them alone."


From what I've understood, from following this as closely as I could, he's more or less a vegetable now. Guys go over to watch races and stuff with him, but he is non-communicative and bed-ridden from what has been reported.

It still stuns me beyond belief that this happened from a skiing accident. He was the guy that got me into F1 back in the day, and as an aspiring cart racer at the time, a bit of a hero to me.
 
2020-12-02 2:55:28 PM  
Russell to drive Lewis Hamilton's Mercedes this weekend.
 
2020-12-02 5:52:55 PM  

willsomebody: Carter Pewterschmidt: Only two sons of champions have then won championships. Damon Hill and Nico Rosberg. Wonder if Mick can make that three?

/Should have been three already. Gilles Villeneuve would have walked the championship in 82 if it wasn't for Pironi being a dick and the accident in Belgium.

Nico is the only one who is even close to as good as his father.  But we'll have to see with Mick.  He is currently leading F2, so credit to him.  Like Nico who won GP2.


Damon is underrated IMHO. He should have won the championship the year before, when Schumacher deliberately (again IMHO) took him off after breaking his own car. And then he would likely have won the championship the year after winning it had the team not played stupid games and dropped him. Adrian Newey was supposed to be "consulted" on decisions like driver changes but he heard his own team had dropped Hill, on the way to winning the championship, from the media and quit. Williams dropped Hill for Heinz Harald Frentzen. There could easily have been a point where Hill would be a three times champion to Schumacher's one.

As for Nico, yes I rate him higher after seeing how Bottas has done. But then I'm old enough to remember that Rosberg Sr became world champion having only ever won one race in his entire F1 career.
 
2020-12-02 6:19:43 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: willsomebody: Carter Pewterschmidt: Only two sons of champions have then won championships. Damon Hill and Nico Rosberg. Wonder if Mick can make that three?

/Should have been three already. Gilles Villeneuve would have walked the championship in 82 if it wasn't for Pironi being a dick and the accident in Belgium.

Nico is the only one who is even close to as good as his father.  But we'll have to see with Mick.  He is currently leading F2, so credit to him.  Like Nico who won GP2.

Damon is underrated IMHO. He should have won the championship the year before, when Schumacher deliberately (again IMHO) took him off after breaking his own car. And then he would likely have won the championship the year after winning it had the team not played stupid games and dropped him. Adrian Newey was supposed to be "consulted" on decisions like driver changes but he heard his own team had dropped Hill, on the way to winning the championship, from the media and quit. Williams dropped Hill for Heinz Harald Frentzen. There could easily have been a point where Hill would be a three times champion to Schumacher's one.

As for Nico, yes I rate him higher after seeing how Bottas has done. But then I'm old enough to remember that Rosberg Sr became world champion having only ever won one race in his entire F1 career.


And I, too, am old enough to agree with you.
 
2020-12-02 6:57:16 PM  

Al Tsheimers: Carter Pewterschmidt: willsomebody: Carter Pewterschmidt: Only two sons of champions have then won championships. Damon Hill and Nico Rosberg. Wonder if Mick can make that three?

/Should have been three already. Gilles Villeneuve would have walked the championship in 82 if it wasn't for Pironi being a dick and the accident in Belgium.

Nico is the only one who is even close to as good as his father.  But we'll have to see with Mick.  He is currently leading F2, so credit to him.  Like Nico who won GP2.

Damon is underrated IMHO. He should have won the championship the year before, when Schumacher deliberately (again IMHO) took him off after breaking his own car. And then he would likely have won the championship the year after winning it had the team not played stupid games and dropped him. Adrian Newey was supposed to be "consulted" on decisions like driver changes but he heard his own team had dropped Hill, on the way to winning the championship, from the media and quit. Williams dropped Hill for Heinz Harald Frentzen. There could easily have been a point where Hill would be a three times champion to Schumacher's one.

As for Nico, yes I rate him higher after seeing how Bottas has done. But then I'm old enough to remember that Rosberg Sr became world champion having only ever won one race in his entire F1 career.

And I, too, am old enough to agree with you.


Ummm, he won 5 races in his career

Including my one F1 race, Dallas in 84
 
2020-12-02 9:09:23 PM  

baka-san: Ummm, he won 5 races in his career

Including my one F1 race, Dallas in 84


Yes, but he became wold champion with only one race win to his name. He won more after.  But he was a world champion having only won a single race.

1982 was a strange year.
Season started off with every driver sleeping in one hotel room when they went on strike.
Ferrari won the constructors title despite losing both their drivers and missing races/only having one car etc. By mid season that car made todays Mercedes look like the Renault. Pironi lost the championship by only five points even though he missed six races.
Brabham had the crazy idea of having a pit stop and changing tyres in the middle of the race. The fools.
John Watson out performed Niki Lauda, back from retirement, including winning Detroit from 22nd on the grid, but was dropped for Alain Prost when Renault fired him.
Eleven different drivers from seven different teams won a race during the season, with no driver winning more than twice; and a run of nine different winners in nine consecutive races from the Monaco Grand Prix to the Swiss Grand Prix.
 
2020-12-02 9:14:09 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Just keep the kid from going skiing.


That joke really gets me piste off.


/anyone know where I can buy some George Of The Jungle DVDs?
 
2020-12-02 9:49:07 PM  

PluckYew: Russell to drive Lewis Hamilton's Mercedes this weekend.


I hope Lewis retires, George goes to the Arrows, Alex to williams and Checo to RBR
 
2020-12-02 10:03:49 PM  

baka-san: Al Tsheimers: Carter Pewterschmidt: willsomebody: Carter Pewterschmidt: Only two sons of champions have then won championships. Damon Hill and Nico Rosberg. Wonder if Mick can make that three?

/Should have been three already. Gilles Villeneuve would have walked the championship in 82 if it wasn't for Pironi being a dick and the accident in Belgium.

Nico is the only one who is even close to as good as his father.  But we'll have to see with Mick.  He is currently leading F2, so credit to him.  Like Nico who won GP2.

Damon is underrated IMHO. He should have won the championship the year before, when Schumacher deliberately (again IMHO) took him off after breaking his own car. And then he would likely have won the championship the year after winning it had the team not played stupid games and dropped him. Adrian Newey was supposed to be "consulted" on decisions like driver changes but he heard his own team had dropped Hill, on the way to winning the championship, from the media and quit. Williams dropped Hill for Heinz Harald Frentzen. There could easily have been a point where Hill would be a three times champion to Schumacher's one.

As for Nico, yes I rate him higher after seeing how Bottas has done. But then I'm old enough to remember that Rosberg Sr became world champion having only ever won one race in his entire F1 career.

And I, too, am old enough to agree with you.

Ummm, he won 5 races in his career

Including my one F1 race, Dallas in 84


You are technically correct. I read it as Keke only won one race in his 1982 championship season, which would have been true. Bios confirmation on my part. Never a Rosberg fan.
I started watching when Stewart and Fittipaldi were champions. I'm going to miss Kimi when he retires.
 
2020-12-02 10:54:04 PM  
I think subby meant "The Shu fits".
 
2020-12-03 5:59:21 AM  

willsomebody: Carter Pewterschmidt: Only two sons of champions have then won championships. Damon Hill and Nico Rosberg. Wonder if Mick can make that three?

/Should have been three already. Gilles Villeneuve would have walked the championship in 82 if it wasn't for Pironi being a dick and the accident in Belgium.

Nico is the only one who is even close to as good as his father.  But we'll have to see with Mick.  He is currently leading F2, so credit to him.  Like Nico who won GP2.


Max would like a word.
 
2020-12-03 6:18:51 AM  

NINEv2: willsomebody: Carter Pewterschmidt: Only two sons of champions have then won championships. Damon Hill and Nico Rosberg. Wonder if Mick can make that three?

/Should have been three already. Gilles Villeneuve would have walked the championship in 82 if it wasn't for Pironi being a dick and the accident in Belgium.

Nico is the only one who is even close to as good as his father.  But we'll have to see with Mick.  He is currently leading F2, so credit to him.  Like Nico who won GP2.

Max would like a word.


He did say champions. Jos never even won a race.

/got more podiums than Hulk, though
 
2020-12-03 8:59:53 AM  

soupafi: PluckYew: Russell to drive Lewis Hamilton's Mercedes this weekend.

I hope Lewis retires, George goes to the Arrows, Alex to williams and Checo to RBR


Again, to an old timer like me I can remember there was a team called Arrows, so your comment confused me for a second.

Al Tsheimers: You are technically correct. I read it as Keke only won one race in his 1982 championship season, which would have been true. Bios confirmation on my part. Never a Rosberg fan.


Not just won one race during that year, only one win in his entire career to that point. Until that year a single third place was his best ever result. It would be like Gasley being world champion this year with his sole race win.
But he was a good driver. He'd been in crap cars in crap teams for his first four years in F1. Piquet rated him higher than Alan Jones who Keke had replaced. But him winning the championship was down to the bad luck of Ferrari losing both their drivers.
 
2020-12-03 9:03:36 AM  
Someone told me that Mick started racing under his mother's maiden name to avoid all the nepotism accusations.

He's winning f2, that's not a trivial thing. Sure the name and the money it brings help, but he's far from being a pay driver in there on that alone.
 
2020-12-03 9:31:34 AM  

Princip's Sandwich: NINEv2: willsomebody: Carter Pewterschmidt: Only two sons of champions have then won championships. Damon Hill and Nico Rosberg. Wonder if Mick can make that three?

/Should have been three already. Gilles Villeneuve would have walked the championship in 82 if it wasn't for Pironi being a dick and the accident in Belgium.

Nico is the only one who is even close to as good as his father.  But we'll have to see with Mick.  He is currently leading F2, so credit to him.  Like Nico who won GP2.

Max would like a word.

He did say champions. Jos never even won a race.

/got more podiums than Hulk, though


Point.

Mick follows a pattern, he struggles when he jumps leagues for about a season, then starts crushing it. But lets be honest, he isn't crushing shiat in the Haas. Hoping he does well though. I can't see Sainz becoming a mainstay at Ferrari, an eventual The clerc and Schumacher lineup is intriguing.

Now if only Ralf's kid can get his shiat together in F3...
 
2020-12-03 10:14:09 AM  

Cyrene Valantion: Someone told me that Mick started racing under his mother's maiden name to avoid all the nepotism accusations.

He's winning f2, that's not a trivial thing. Sure the name and the money it brings help, but he's far from being a pay driver in there on that alone.


People talk of race teams being a form of nepotism, but really what you are seeing is both funds to support kids racing and genetics. Racers are generally smaller guys with a lot of ropy strength, and reactions/processing speed is part of it as well.

I wish I had had the funds as a kid. I had a pro driver tell me I was "a natural" on a race track. My parents looked into it, but it ain't cheap.
 
2020-12-03 10:14:33 AM  

NINEv2: Princip's Sandwich: NINEv2: willsomebody: Carter Pewterschmidt: Only two sons of champions have then won championships. Damon Hill and Nico Rosberg. Wonder if Mick can make that three?

/Should have been three already. Gilles Villeneuve would have walked the championship in 82 if it wasn't for Pironi being a dick and the accident in Belgium.

Nico is the only one who is even close to as good as his father.  But we'll have to see with Mick.  He is currently leading F2, so credit to him.  Like Nico who won GP2.

Max would like a word.

He did say champions. Jos never even won a race.

/got more podiums than Hulk, though

Point.

Mick follows a pattern, he struggles when he jumps leagues for about a season, then starts crushing it. But lets be honest, he isn't crushing shiat in the Haas. Hoping he does well though. I can't see Sainz becoming a mainstay at Ferrari, an eventual The clerc and Schumacher lineup is intriguing.

Now if only Ralf's kid can get his shiat together in F3...


The clerc didn't smash things at Sauber, though he got the vast majority of the team's points as he was paired with "I crash into Saubers for fun" Ericsson. Talent is talent. If he's good enough, he should shine through.
 
2020-12-03 11:11:56 AM  

phimuskapsi: I wish I had had the funds as a kid. I had a pro driver tell me I was "a natural" on a race track. My parents looked into it, but it ain't cheap.


Y'see, this here is my main beef with dickheads like Fredo Ferrucci. His behavior and politics aside, he is fortunate enough to have the financial backing to do what I would've killed to get an opportunity to even try. And what does he do? Acts like a spoiled racist shiatblossom and basically tries to throw it away. It pisses me off to no end when I hear the PTs and Millers of the world sucking up to that little asshole as if he's the next JoNew or lil Hert. I've even argued with Miller about it.

Although, rumor is fredo's financial support is drying up and he might not return to DC for 21. D'awwwww...

Would I have made it as a pro? Probably not, but how many of us don't even get the chance to find out?
 
2020-12-03 12:29:22 PM  
Other news: I just stumbled on to the live F1TV feed of the safety car doing laps of the short circuit that they racing this weekend. A couple of notes:

- The safety car was lapping at right around 1:00 unofficially.

- They have put either tires or TecPro barriers at the site of the Grosjean crash.
 
2020-12-03 1:48:17 PM  

NINEv2: phimuskapsi: I wish I had had the funds as a kid. I had a pro driver tell me I was "a natural" on a race track. My parents looked into it, but it ain't cheap.

Y'see, this here is my main beef with dickheads like Fredo Ferrucci. His behavior and politics aside, he is fortunate enough to have the financial backing to do what I would've killed to get an opportunity to even try. And what does he do? Acts like a spoiled racist shiatblossom and basically tries to throw it away. It pisses me off to no end when I hear the PTs and Millers of the world sucking up to that little asshole as if he's the next JoNew or lil Hert. I've even argued with Miller about it.

Although, rumor is fredo's financial support is drying up and he might not return to DC for 21. D'awwwww...

Would I have made it as a pro? Probably not, but how many of us don't even get the chance to find out?


One of the best years of my life is when a go-kart track 'gave me a ride' and I got to drive a real 100cc kart for awhile, but it wasn't any major circuits or leagues. Still loved the opportunity.
 
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