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(The New Yorker)   Hire the homeless to watch over empty homes? Modern solutions   (newyorker.com) divider line
    More: Giggity, Black people, Civil Rights Act of 1968, Homelessness, Real estate, White people, Black Canadians, Augustus Evans, Los Angeles  
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2020-12-01 9:14:08 PM  
Hey, they get a home while they work.
 
2020-12-01 10:38:46 PM  
I saw a movie on Amazon Prime where they had this idea. It didn't work out well.
Anyone Home Trailer
Youtube XVd_Sfcr-I0
 
2020-12-02 12:14:50 AM  
"Yuh...while you were on vacation, some guy showed up, said he was here to read the meter. Had a uniform and a clipboard too, but I didn't believe it. So I slashed his face open with a broken bottle of T-bird. Sure showed him. So, can I have my 20 bucks now?"
 
2020-12-02 12:50:44 AM  
You first, author of the article (that I cannot read in full).
 
2020-12-02 12:53:10 AM  
I have read horror stories about squatters taking over a home. They tell the police that they are a legitimate renter. The police just have one word against another. One way is for an AirBnB renter to just stay. So the owner has to go to civil court to get an eviction order. Sounds like this could happen easy with this scheme.

I wonder if you can get squatter protection in your homeowners policy?
 
2020-12-02 3:42:57 AM  
That sounds like a reasonable workaround to an unreasonable situation. Just, yeah, find a workaround to the whole potential squatter situation that could result from it, and pay them for what they're effectively doing: guarding the place. Don't try to wiggle out of it by "paying them with room and board" and treat it like a PR expense. After all, your advertising budget is kinda pointless at the moment, depending on where said home is.
 
2020-12-02 4:02:22 AM  
My city recently started paying homeless people to pick up garbage. $4 a bag, up to five bags a day. Paid to a debit card, can't buy cigs or liquor. Just started, so no results yet, but good to see cities trying new things.
 
2020-12-02 7:07:58 AM  

phishrace: My city recently started paying homeless people to pick up garbage. $4 a bag, up to five bags a day. Paid to a debit card, can't buy cigs or liquor. Just started, so no results yet, but good to see cities trying new things.


I already know that isn't going to work.  It is far easier and more efficient to raid existing trash receptacles than it is to collect it yourself.  It will likely lead to more dumpster divining than anything else.
 
2020-12-02 8:38:34 AM  
The homeless are all scam artists and criminals.  You're right to completely dismiss them all.
 
2020-12-02 9:59:51 AM  
SNL did it.

The Herlihy Boy House-Sitting Service - SNL
Youtube oXyW5w5RRFY
 
2020-12-02 10:21:25 AM  

phishrace: My city recently started paying homeless people to pick up garbage. $4 a bag, up to five bags a day. Paid to a debit card, can't buy cigs or liquor. Just started, so no results yet, but good to see cities trying new things.


How do they get around minimum wage laws?  Or do they consider them independent contractors and send them 1099s?  Also, what the other guy said...
 
2020-12-02 11:55:06 AM  
Only to find all the copper pipes and wiring as well as the walls all ripped out.
 
2020-12-02 12:36:35 PM  
There is a brand new drive through restaurant in my city for a chain I never heard of before.  Well, it was built, but never opened.  Construction on the thing was very slow, and it wasn't done until after March of this year, and I guess the owners decided that opening during a pandemic was a bad idea (which doesn't make any sense, since they still have to pay property taxes and insurance and construction and real estate loans with no income coming in).  There is a guy who apparently lives in the very small construction trailer and I assume is paid to guard the thing (another expense to add to the above); very similar to this situation I suspect.
 
2020-12-03 2:39:41 AM  

Beta Tested: phishrace: My city recently started paying homeless people to pick up garbage. $4 a bag, up to five bags a day. Paid to a debit card, can't buy cigs or liquor. Just started, so no results yet, but good to see cities trying new things.

I already know that isn't going to work.  It is far easier and more efficient to raid existing trash receptacles than it is to collect it yourself.  It will likely lead to more dumpster divining than anything else.


Virtually every dumpster is locked around here. Big city. If they try emptying the garbage can in front of Starbucks, a tax payer will video them and post the video to ND while complaining. Hasn't happened yet.

We have numerous homeless encampments around the city. During the pandemic, they aren't rousting any of them, like they usually do every few months. So garbage is piling up at the encampments. City, water district and SP railroad clean some of the mess, but they can't get all of it. They won't need to dumpster dive to get their $20 a day. They won't even have to walk far from 'home'. We'll see how it goes.
 
2020-12-03 11:29:40 AM  

phishrace: Virtually every dumpster is locked around here. Big city. If they try emptying the garbage can in front of Starbucks, a tax payer will video them and post the video to ND while complaining. Hasn't happened yet.

We have numerous homeless encampments around the city. During the pandemic, they aren't rousting any of them, like they usually do every few months. So garbage is piling up at the encampments. City, water district and SP railroad clean some of the mess, but they can't get all of it. They won't need to dumpster dive to get their $20 a day. They won't even have to walk far from 'home'. We'll see how it goes.


Good point.  I hadn't thought about there being homeless encampments full of people an overflowing with garbage.  Those don't exist where I live since if you let them happen you get bigger problems.
 
2020-12-03 12:04:49 PM  

Beta Tested: phishrace: Virtually every dumpster is locked around here. Big city. If they try emptying the garbage can in front of Starbucks, a tax payer will video them and post the video to ND while complaining. Hasn't happened yet.

We have numerous homeless encampments around the city. During the pandemic, they aren't rousting any of them, like they usually do every few months. So garbage is piling up at the encampments. City, water district and SP railroad clean some of the mess, but they can't get all of it. They won't need to dumpster dive to get their $20 a day. They won't even have to walk far from 'home'. We'll see how it goes.

Good point.  I hadn't thought about there being homeless encampments full of people an overflowing with garbage.  Those don't exist where I live since if you let them happen you get bigger problems.


There is a newish Federal Court ruling that basically makes it very difficult for the government to prevent homeless people from camping on public property (it's a "cruel and unusual punishment" ruling).  It currently applies only to the ninth circuit court (west coast), but the Supremes refused a challenge to it last December, so it's only time before it applies directly nationwide.

This is why Seattle, San Francisco, and Los Angeles currently have large homeless problems making national news, because the cops literally can't legally prevent them from camping on the sidewalk under this ruling (so they camp right on Main Street instead of hiding in out of the way places).
 
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