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2020-12-01 5:34:52 PM  
At least she's on brand still.
 
2020-12-01 5:36:03 PM  
It will Not end well for her.
 
2020-12-01 5:41:30 PM  
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2020-12-01 5:44:52 PM  
Rich people get debt canceled all the time. She's a hag.
 
2020-12-01 5:51:04 PM  
Her family got rich scamming Americans.  Fark her, and the horse she rode in on.
 
2020-12-01 5:51:38 PM  

vudukungfu: It will Not end well for her.


Sure  it will.  You think she's going to cry about it in one of her yachts?
 
2020-12-01 5:51:48 PM  
Outgoing Education Secretary Betsy DeVos presented ayeah yeah yeah, outgoing Education Secretary Betsy DeVos needs to hurry up and get out-gone.
 
2020-12-01 5:57:41 PM  
She's a dominionistic Christian who thinks its bad that public schools are the center of children's' lives and wants to kill public schools in favor of church schools so all the kids will be indoctrinated into her church.  (yes, that's a real thing she said in public years ago)

THEN they can f*ck off and die bathed in Jesus' merciful love.

Blessed are the meek and the poor, after all.

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2020-12-01 5:57:47 PM  
Copyrights used to mandate making a copy of the copyrighted material available at the library for the public's free consumption so that no one is shut out of higher education.

Copyright got butchered into an entertainment profit machine instead of a small and temporary boost for science.

Now copyrights shut people out of education or make it very expensive, and science has to compete against a glut of entertainment media.

We live in a dark age right now.
We need the enlightenment back.
 
2020-12-01 6:00:19 PM  

nekom: vudukungfu: It will Not end well for her.

Sure  it will.  You think she's going to cry about it in one of her yachts?


As it's sinking because of a .50 cal hole?

Maybe.

/I don't own a rifle, this post is a joke, how about you bother the real terrorists instead.
 
2020-12-01 6:03:32 PM  
This woman can kiss my ass, and then f*ck right off.   It does give me the warm fuzzies to think that student loan forgiveness must be close to happening, why else would she feel the need to scream lies about it so loudly?
 
2020-12-01 6:06:21 PM  
The response from the education community was ... not kind.
 
2020-12-01 6:07:47 PM  
Socialism.

Ooga booga.
 
2020-12-01 6:07:57 PM  

austerity101: The response from the education community was ... not kind.


Link?
 
2020-12-01 6:09:42 PM  
There are quite a few people I'm glad are on their way out.

This one's right near the top of my list.

Oh, and I hope she gets ball cancer too.
 
2020-12-01 6:10:38 PM  
Biatch gots to haz her yachts
 
2020-12-01 6:11:03 PM  
There's always hope.  One day she'll die and maybe it will be really painful.
 
2020-12-01 6:11:07 PM  
"And it's even more unfair to those who have held up their end of the bargain and paid back their student loans themselves to subsidize those who don't save, plan, and pay."

Hey, you stupid koont, I'm one of those who planned, saved, and paid. I put myself through college and grad school with no student loans (the time being 1989-1999 probably had something to do with that), and worked my ass off. And you know what? I absolutely do not care if you gotta raise my taxes to give people who couldn't manage what I did a leg up. I want an educated populace. So go fark off, you dumb biatch. You don't speak for me.
 
2020-12-01 6:14:10 PM  
biatch ..
 
2020-12-01 6:14:46 PM  
She knifed two eight year olds on a live stream then hung them outside her office?
 
2020-12-01 6:15:29 PM  
Dafuq?

"...fundamentally unfair to ask two-thirds of Americans who don't go to college to pay the bills for the mere one-third who do..."

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Is she talking about the idle rich who don't bother to get a degree?
 
2020-12-01 6:16:56 PM  
Come on COVID.. she can't make her fort saving throw forever in Trump's White House.
 
2020-12-01 6:17:37 PM  
Cut a wucking funt.
 
2020-12-01 6:18:07 PM  
If you ask one of these idiots to even define socialism, their brains will short-circuit and their eyes will start blinking 12:00.
 
2020-12-01 6:18:41 PM  
"We've heard shrill calls to 'cancel,' to 'forgive,' to 'make it all free,'" Devos added. "Any innocuous label out there can't obfuscate what it really is: wrong."

What is really wrong is the outrageously high cost of a post-secondary education.  I do think the calls for total forgiveness of student loan debt and free college education do allow for obfuscation of the need to address the cost of post-secondary education and efforts to reduce that cost. We need to take a hard look at our system and decide what we are willing to give up, if anything, to make post-secondary education affordable for everyone. Meanwhile, some forgiveness or student debt, or postponement, would be helpful. One thing we could consider is something that I believe is done in the UK and that is to limit the amount a person needs to repay annually on their student loans to a reasonable percentage of their income.
 
2020-12-01 6:18:41 PM  
Betsy Devos, the first person to apply their face makeup with a deep fryer.

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*remove any food items before applying face to oil.
 
2020-12-01 6:20:35 PM  
DeVos also asserted that it would be "fundamentally unfair to ask two-thirds of Americans who don't go to college to pay the bills for the mere one-third who do.

Those 2/3s of people are already not paying taxes.
 
2020-12-01 6:20:44 PM  

raerae1980: This woman can kiss my ass, and then f*ck right off.   It does give me the warm fuzzies to think that student loan forgiveness must be close to happening, why else would she feel the need to scream lies about it so loudly?


Even if it does, or doesn't she will still be richer then everyone who every reads this thread 20 times over.

She will be rich, fat and happy to her grave, never once having real consequences of any kind. She will go on past this, past trump, and have her every whim catered too.

Unless....
 
2020-12-01 6:20:47 PM  
Translation:  It would gut her and her friends financial holdings, and make a lot less need for people to sell themselves to the military to pay for college - thus making less ex-soldiers for her brother to hire in his for his mercenary outfits.
 
2020-12-01 6:20:55 PM  

weddingsinger: She's a dominionistic Christian who thinks its bad that public schools are the center of children's' lives and wants to kill public schools in favor of church schools so all the kids will be indoctrinated into her church.  (yes, that's a real thing she said in public years ago)

THEN they can f*ck off and die bathed in Jesus' merciful love.

Blessed are the meek and the poor, after all.



This is why today's "Conservatives" want to whittle away public services down to nothing.  A person that is educated, housed, clothed and fed doesn't need Jesus like a person that is destitute does.  Churches need desperate people to fill the pews to be told how to live and how to vote.  And if your life sucks, well, it's God's Will and you'll be rewarded handsomely in the afterlife.  Just remember to tithe your pre-tax 10% and vote in the next billionaire to public office.
 
2020-12-01 6:23:00 PM  

runwiz: "We've heard shrill calls to 'cancel,' to 'forgive,' to 'make it all free,'" Devos added. "Any innocuous label out there can't obfuscate what it really is: wrong."

What is really wrong is the outrageously high cost of a post-secondary education.  I do think the calls for total forgiveness of student loan debt and free college education do allow for obfuscation of the need to address the cost of post-secondary education and efforts to reduce that cost. We need to take a hard look at our system and decide what we are willing to give up, if anything, to make post-secondary education affordable for everyone. Meanwhile, some forgiveness or student debt, or postponement, would be helpful. One thing we could consider is something that I believe is done in the UK and that is to limit the amount a person needs to repay annually on their student loans to a reasonable percentage of their income.


If the information is older than 15 years, it ought to be public domain.

That permits free copying and distribution. It lowers the cost of text books.

It also prohibits Disney from profiting off of racism.

What's not to like?
 
2020-12-01 6:25:07 PM  
"They didn't have automatic transmissions when I was a kid, therefore no one should ever have a car with an automatic transmission".

Essentially what Devos is saying when she whines about how unfair free college tuition is for people who paid off loans.
 
2020-12-01 6:25:40 PM  

raerae1980: austerity101: The response from the education community was ... not kind.

Link?


Every teacher I know or know of, and regardless of political bent, hates her with the passion of ten thousand suns.

No one is sorry shes leaving.
 
2020-12-01 6:26:36 PM  

Gyrfalcon: raerae1980: austerity101: The response from the education community was ... not kind.

Link?

Every teacher I know or know of, and regardless of political bent, hates her with the passion of ten thousand suns.

No one is sorry shes leaving.


Hey, that's the exact same way the tech field feels about miserable hack Ajit Pai.
 
Ant
2020-12-01 6:26:55 PM  
DeVos also asserted that it would be "fundamentally unfair to ask two-thirds of Americans who don't go to college to pay the bills for the mere one-third who do.

I wonder why that two-thirds doesn't go? Could it maybe be too expensive?
 
2020-12-01 6:26:59 PM  
Betsy DeVos: Children must be in school
Everyone: during a pandemic?! You monster!

Everyone: education costs too much, let's lower the cost and forgive debt so more people can go to school.
Betsy DeVos: you monsters!
 
2020-12-01 6:27:15 PM  

Kubo: If you ask one of these idiots to even define socialism, their brains will short-circuit and their eyes will start blinking 12:00.


"Anyone who isn't me having money" is usually what they mean.
 
Ant
2020-12-01 6:27:57 PM  

vudukungfu: It will Not end well for her.


Carried away by centaurs in The Forbidden Forest?
 
2020-12-01 6:28:11 PM  

mithras_angel: Gyrfalcon: raerae1980: austerity101: The response from the education community was ... not kind.

Link?

Every teacher I know or know of, and regardless of political bent, hates her with the passion of ten thousand suns.

No one is sorry shes leaving.

Hey, that's the exact same way the tech field feels about miserable hack Ajit Pai.


Can't blame Ajit Pai only on Trump.
Pai was there before.
 
2020-12-01 6:29:11 PM  

aleister_greynight: DeVos also asserted that it would be "fundamentally unfair to ask two-thirds of Americans who don't go to college to pay the bills for the mere one-third who do.


Right. I'm sure everyone will be better off when a huge swath of young people have to file for bankruptcy as opposed to spending their money on cars, mortgages, etc.   that sounds like a great way to grow the economy.
 
2020-12-01 6:30:08 PM  

Purple_Urkle: mithras_angel: Gyrfalcon: raerae1980: austerity101: The response from the education community was ... not kind.

Link?

Every teacher I know or know of, and regardless of political bent, hates her with the passion of ten thousand suns.

No one is sorry shes leaving.

Hey, that's the exact same way the tech field feels about miserable hack Ajit Pai.

Can't blame Ajit Pai only on Trump.
Pai was there before.


That just means we've hated him longer.
 
2020-12-01 6:31:56 PM  

Purple_Urkle: runwiz: "We've heard shrill calls to 'cancel,' to 'forgive,' to 'make it all free,'" Devos added. "Any innocuous label out there can't obfuscate what it really is: wrong."

What is really wrong is the outrageously high cost of a post-secondary education.  I do think the calls for total forgiveness of student loan debt and free college education do allow for obfuscation of the need to address the cost of post-secondary education and efforts to reduce that cost. We need to take a hard look at our system and decide what we are willing to give up, if anything, to make post-secondary education affordable for everyone. Meanwhile, some forgiveness or student debt, or postponement, would be helpful. One thing we could consider is something that I believe is done in the UK and that is to limit the amount a person needs to repay annually on their student loans to a reasonable percentage of their income.

If the information is older than 15 years, it ought to be public domain.

That permits free copying and distribution. It lowers the cost of text books.

It also prohibits Disney from profiting off of racism.

What's not to like?


Or we could set up differing copyright laws for entertainment, the fine arts, literature, scholarly work, etc.
 
2020-12-01 6:35:07 PM  

Olthoi: "They didn't have automatic transmissions when I was a kid, therefore no one should ever have a car with an automatic transmission".

Essentially what Devos is saying when she whines about how unfair free college tuition is for people who paid off loans.


My student loans are way back in the rear view mirror, but I can't fault today's kids from needing help. For one thing, my loans were federally backed and did not have predatory interest rates.

But the big thing is I understand that something that may not benefit me directly isn't automatically bad, evil or "socialism".
 
2020-12-01 6:35:30 PM  

Great_Milenko: Purple_Urkle: runwiz: "We've heard shrill calls to 'cancel,' to 'forgive,' to 'make it all free,'" Devos added. "Any innocuous label out there can't obfuscate what it really is: wrong."

What is really wrong is the outrageously high cost of a post-secondary education.  I do think the calls for total forgiveness of student loan debt and free college education do allow for obfuscation of the need to address the cost of post-secondary education and efforts to reduce that cost. We need to take a hard look at our system and decide what we are willing to give up, if anything, to make post-secondary education affordable for everyone. Meanwhile, some forgiveness or student debt, or postponement, would be helpful. One thing we could consider is something that I believe is done in the UK and that is to limit the amount a person needs to repay annually on their student loans to a reasonable percentage of their income.

If the information is older than 15 years, it ought to be public domain.

That permits free copying and distribution. It lowers the cost of text books.

It also prohibits Disney from profiting off of racism.

What's not to like?

Or we could set up differing copyright laws for entertainment, the fine arts, literature, scholarly work, etc.


And create a whole new category of lawyers arguing that <certain product>, no matter what it may actually look like, falls into the category which has the longest copyright.
 
2020-12-01 6:36:33 PM  

Great_Milenko: Purple_Urkle: runwiz: "We've heard shrill calls to 'cancel,' to 'forgive,' to 'make it all free,'" Devos added. "Any innocuous label out there can't obfuscate what it really is: wrong."

What is really wrong is the outrageously high cost of a post-secondary education.  I do think the calls for total forgiveness of student loan debt and free college education do allow for obfuscation of the need to address the cost of post-secondary education and efforts to reduce that cost. We need to take a hard look at our system and decide what we are willing to give up, if anything, to make post-secondary education affordable for everyone. Meanwhile, some forgiveness or student debt, or postponement, would be helpful. One thing we could consider is something that I believe is done in the UK and that is to limit the amount a person needs to repay annually on their student loans to a reasonable percentage of their income.

If the information is older than 15 years, it ought to be public domain.

That permits free copying and distribution. It lowers the cost of text books.

It also prohibits Disney from profiting off of racism.

What's not to like?

Or we could set up differing copyright laws for entertainment, the fine arts, literature, scholarly work, etc.


Nah, Disney profited off the pandemic and fought to keep their parks open during the pandemic.

BigMedia must be destroyed if peer reviewed truth is to prosper.

But if you want two systems okay, entertainment gets a maximum copyright term for 3 years.

People should invest money in cures for diseases, not big budget films.
 
2020-12-01 6:37:35 PM  
As someone who did pay off their loans, I do kind of understand the frustration. Its frustrating when you made hard financial decisions like going to community college for the first 2 years to reduce debt, only to have irresponsible people get bailed out.

However, when you think about the amount of suffering that some of those people endured, having these unpayable loans hanging around their necks for years, blocking everything they want to do with their lives, its softens the heart a bit. They aren't getting off scott-free. They've been punished already.

Plus, if you are a true capitalist, you'd realize that people enslaved by debt (that you don't own) are useless to you. Even if some people get something that I didn't get, I'd rather have them walking around with a few bucks in their pockets so I can make a dollar and a cent off them.
 
2020-12-01 6:37:52 PM  

Ant: DeVos also asserted that it would be "fundamentally unfair to ask two-thirds of Americans who don't go to college to pay the bills for the mere one-third who do.

I wonder why that two-thirds doesn't go? Could it maybe be too expensive?


I didn't finish college because of finances. They messed up my financial aid my last year and sent me a bill for $9k during finals week. I never could get it straightened out, but luckily my grandmother died around the same time and left me $9k. College was wonderful, except for the financial aspect of it.
 
2020-12-01 6:40:21 PM  

mithras_angel: Great_Milenko: Purple_Urkle: runwiz: "We've heard shrill calls to 'cancel,' to 'forgive,' to 'make it all free,'" Devos added. "Any innocuous label out there can't obfuscate what it really is: wrong."

What is really wrong is the outrageously high cost of a post-secondary education.  I do think the calls for total forgiveness of student loan debt and free college education do allow for obfuscation of the need to address the cost of post-secondary education and efforts to reduce that cost. We need to take a hard look at our system and decide what we are willing to give up, if anything, to make post-secondary education affordable for everyone. Meanwhile, some forgiveness or student debt, or postponement, would be helpful. One thing we could consider is something that I believe is done in the UK and that is to limit the amount a person needs to repay annually on their student loans to a reasonable percentage of their income.

If the information is older than 15 years, it ought to be public domain.

That permits free copying and distribution. It lowers the cost of text books.

It also prohibits Disney from profiting off of racism.

What's not to like?

Or we could set up differing copyright laws for entertainment, the fine arts, literature, scholarly work, etc.

And create a whole new category of lawyers arguing that <certain product>, no matter what it may actually look like, falls into the category which has the longest copyright.


Well something has to be done. I'm no more comfortable with a movie like Iron Man being protected in perpetuity than I am with it becoming public domain in two years
 
2020-12-01 6:41:50 PM  
Oh really? You know what else "is truly insidious?" f**king bullshiat Amway MLM. Through which, her parents ripped off hundreds of thousands of regular people; people struggling to survive financially; regular people struggling to increase their income in order to cover their living needs, and her parents bullshiatted all of them into believing it was possible. But only if you bought all their shiat first, then sponsored and covered the costs of distributing their bullshiat...
All, just total bullshiat. 

That woman's billions should be liquidated and disbursed among the surviving relatives of those who were preyed upon by Davros' despicable parents over the years. 

Then, she and Erik Prince can be put adrift on a raft in the mid-Atlantic. How does that quote go, "they've been tried and are found wanting or something". As someone who supposedly believes in the gospel of Christ, ol' Betsy may be in for a very rude awakening when she finally kicks the bucket.
 
2020-12-01 6:42:09 PM  
LOL, Suck it ya corrupt harpy. Your opinion means less than nothing in this matter.
 
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