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(The Hill)   England sees 30% drop in COVID-19 cases after three-week lockdown. For some reason, they haven't become socialist during that time   (thehill.com) divider line
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2020-12-01 8:55:27 AM  
Yeah, but the virus has not been completely contained there.
 
2020-12-01 9:00:10 AM  
But... they're already... never mind.
 
2020-12-01 10:08:12 AM  
If they weren't already socialists, they wouldn't have allowed themselves to be locked down. Think it out, sheeple!
 
2020-12-01 10:11:51 AM  
And until the case number is down to like zero, it doesn't matter and they'll just have to do it again in a couple of months.
 
2020-12-01 10:13:14 AM  

Jeebus Saves: And until the case number is down to like zero, it doesn't matter and they'll just have to do it again in a couple of months.


Except...not really.
 
2020-12-01 10:15:09 AM  
Meanwhile in Roswell, New Mexico, the virus is out of control and case numbers are making national news.  So naturally their city council voted to reopen all municipal facilities (including their museum) and banned the city manager from closing anything without city council approval.  Despite all of that being illegal violations of the state public health orders.  It looks like Roswell will be blowing their painfully reduced budget on legal fees.
 
2020-12-01 10:17:22 AM  
But what about Sharia Law from wearing masks?
 
2020-12-01 10:19:24 AM  

Jeebus Saves: And until the case number is down to like zero, it doesn't matter and they'll just have to do it again in a couple of months.


Yes, they likely will have to do it again in a couple of months, and a couple of months after that until the combination of immunity by natural infection and vaccination ends the pandemic.

Lock-downs aren't pointless, however.  They space out the infections so the hospitals can handle them better, and they space out the deaths so we don't have to burn piles of bodies in the streets.
 
2020-12-01 10:19:47 AM  
How did they LIVE? Were they just eating each other?

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2020-12-01 10:20:33 AM  

OrangeSnapper: Jeebus Saves: And until the case number is down to like zero, it doesn't matter and they'll just have to do it again in a couple of months.

Yes, they likely will have to do it again in a couple of months, and a couple of months after that until the combination of immunity by natural infection and vaccination ends the pandemic.

Lock-downs aren't pointless, however.  They space out the infections so the hospitals can handle them better, and they space out the deaths so we don't have to burn piles of bodies in the streets.


But it's winter, and we're trying to reduce our use of fossil fuels!
 
2020-12-01 10:20:45 AM  
Yeah, but they don't have motorcycle rallies to attend.  All they have are those silly Quadrophenia mopeds.
 
2020-12-01 10:21:01 AM  

OrangeSnapper: Jeebus Saves: And until the case number is down to like zero, it doesn't matter and they'll just have to do it again in a couple of months.

Yes, they likely will have to do it again in a couple of months, and a couple of months after that until the combination of immunity by natural infection and vaccination ends the pandemic.

Lock-downs aren't pointless, however.  They space out the infections so the hospitals can handle them better, and they space out the deaths so we don't have to burn piles of bodies in the streets.


So you're against burning bodies in the streets. You know who else tried to dispose of the bodies outside of town?
 
2020-12-01 10:21:27 AM  

Jeebus Saves: And until the case number is down to like zero, it doesn't matter and they'll just have to do it again in a couple of months.


No. I'm in kent which is about to go into Tier 3 thanks to the inbreds up on the isle of Sheppey. It's not actually going to be horrendously different from the current situation, but it's going to be reviewed every 2 weeks. If the R value drops enough we'll go down the tiers in accordance with the number of new infections.

But one thing's for sure, the public, in any country, can't be trusted enough to look after themselves, so the only way out of this completely will be via the vaccine.
 
2020-12-01 10:21:43 AM  
Fake news!
 
2020-12-01 10:22:51 AM  
Pfft.  Brits just wear masks so they don't have to go to the dentist.
 
2020-12-01 10:23:17 AM  
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2020-12-01 10:23:34 AM  

Nick Nostril: Fake news!


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2020-12-01 10:25:29 AM  
OrangeSnapper:  Lock-downs aren't pointless, however.  They space out the infections so the hospitals can handle them better, and they space out the deaths so we don't have to burn piles of bodies in the streets.

Duh, if you're in lockdown, you have to burn the bodies in your back yard.  That just screws up your property value.  Don't get me started on the HOA.
 
2020-12-01 10:27:02 AM  
Silly subby, they were already socialist.
 
2020-12-01 10:31:46 AM  

Jeebus Saves: And until the case number is down to like zero, it doesn't matter and they'll just have to do it again in a couple of months.


If the competently contact trace and quarantine new outbreaks, no.

But if you follow the Trump approach of pretending it is all iver, of course, yes, they will.

So it does depend on how stupid you are.
 
2020-12-01 10:32:59 AM  

kdawg7736: Yeah, but the virus has not been completely contained there.


...and it won't be without Chinese level draconian control that western societies will ever accept.

We just need to get the damn vaccine out!
 
2020-12-01 10:35:27 AM  

Icarus_Rising: Silly subby, they were already socialist.


Unlike American GOP which would rather be red or dead.
 
2020-12-01 10:37:01 AM  

kdawg7736: Yeah, but the virus has not been completely contained there.


Ha ha, it's funny because it's too stupid. Nobody is that stupid, right?

Jeebus Saves: And until the case number is down to like zero, it doesn't matter and they'll just have to do it again in a couple of months.

 
2020-12-01 10:39:53 AM  

ColonelCathcart: kdawg7736: Yeah, but the virus has not been completely contained there.

...and it won't be without Chinese level draconian control that western societies will ever accept.

We just need to get the damn vaccine out!


Or South Korean level of control.
Or Taiwanese level of control.
Or Australian level of control.
Or New Zealand level of control.

Or...or...or...
 
2020-12-01 10:44:26 AM  

Trocadero: OrangeSnapper: Jeebus Saves: And until the case number is down to like zero, it doesn't matter and they'll just have to do it again in a couple of months.

Yes, they likely will have to do it again in a couple of months, and a couple of months after that until the combination of immunity by natural infection and vaccination ends the pandemic.

Lock-downs aren't pointless, however.  They space out the infections so the hospitals can handle them better, and they space out the deaths so we don't have to burn piles of bodies in the streets.

But it's winter, and we're trying to reduce our use of fossil fuels!


Good point.  Corpses are a renewable form of energy.  Also a good source of protein, if need be.
 
2020-12-01 10:44:52 AM  
But I am sure the carbon dioxide deaths are up from all that mask wearing.
 
2020-12-01 10:46:16 AM  
Yes - let's listen to yanks pontificate about the evils of socialism whilst the autocrats in the WH are busy boosting all the art & silverware.
 
2020-12-01 10:49:49 AM  

CarnySaur: Yeah, but they don't have motorcycle rallies to attend.  All they have are those silly Quadrophenia mopeds.


The Isle of Wight Scooter Rally was cancelled this year. Largest scooter rally in the world now. Nothing like the size of Stugis though.
 
2020-12-01 10:51:29 AM  
So it didn't work there either. Good to know! How many "broken" feet though?

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2020-12-01 10:51:42 AM  

jaytkay: ColonelCathcart: kdawg7736: Yeah, but the virus has not been completely contained there.

...and it won't be without Chinese level draconian control that western societies will ever accept.

We just need to get the damn vaccine out!

Or South Korean level of control.
Or Taiwanese level of control.
Or Australian level of control.
Or New Zealand level of control.

Or...or...or...


Islands or homogenous Asian countries.

Name one white country that isn't an island that controlled it.

I'll wait.
 
2020-12-01 10:55:36 AM  

Trocadero: OrangeSnapper: Jeebus Saves: And until the case number is down to like zero, it doesn't matter and they'll just have to do it again in a couple of months.

Yes, they likely will have to do it again in a couple of months, and a couple of months after that until the combination of immunity by natural infection and vaccination ends the pandemic.

Lock-downs aren't pointless, however.  They space out the infections so the hospitals can handle them better, and they space out the deaths so we don't have to burn piles of bodies in the streets.

But it's winter, and we're trying to reduce our use of fossil fuels!


Who are you calling a fossil?
 
2020-12-01 10:57:56 AM  

CarnySaur: Yeah, but they don't have motorcycle rallies to attend.  All they have are those silly Quadrophenia mopeds.


They're scooters, Vespas, damned nice too. Mopeds have pedals
 
2020-12-01 10:59:06 AM  

CordycepsInYourBrain: If they weren't already socialists, they wouldn't have allowed themselves to be locked down. Think it out, sheeple!


Not exactly. The difference is that the national government in Britain can establish a nation-wide lockdown. The US government cannot. It's up to the states in the US.
 
2020-12-01 11:03:25 AM  
Just fark it already. Stop with these articles. It doesn't matter, because nothing you say will persuade rightwingers into wearing masks. Nothing.

America won't do it. So stop bothering. Just mask yourself and your immediate loved ones, and then shut up. The more you plead, the more resistant the Trumper set becomes.

You're all like that girlfriend that desperately wants to "fix" her alcoholic boyfriend. You can't seem to accept that the only person you have the power to change is yourself. That's it. Your nagging only makes the problem worse.
 
2020-12-01 11:07:08 AM  

OrangeSnapper: Jeebus Saves: And until the case number is down to like zero, it doesn't matter and they'll just have to do it again in a couple of months.

Yes, they likely will have to do it again in a couple of months, and a couple of months after that until the combination of immunity by natural infection and vaccination ends the pandemic.

Lock-downs aren't pointless, however.  They space out the infections so the hospitals can handle them better, and they space out the deaths so we don't have to burn piles of bodies in the streets.


Is an only 30% reduction worth it?

I'd think a lockdown would be more effective than that.
 
2020-12-01 11:07:52 AM  

ColonelCathcart: Islands or homogenous Asian countries.

Name one white country that isn't an island that controlled it.


The UK is an island, dispshiat. And Australia is not.
 
2020-12-01 11:10:26 AM  

ColonelCathcart: Islands or homogenous Asian countries.


And wtf does "homogenous" and "Asian" have to do with it. You think South Koreans are genetically immune?
 
2020-12-01 11:14:58 AM  

ColonelCathcart: kdawg7736: Yeah, but the virus has not been completely contained there.

...and it won't be without Chinese level draconian control that western societies will ever accept.

We just need to get the damn vaccine out!


If the "western societies" are so much more enlightened than the "evil Asians", why is it too much to ask that they take some of that "personal responsibility" they bleat about and act like adults for at least long enough to get the virus under control? Had this been done back in March and April the need for a vaccine now would not be nearly as great, and there would likely be a lot fewer dead people.

That is the real pisser... controlling the virus is something "the west" could have done over half a year ago, and can still do now, without a vaccine. Problem is they won't. Not can't, won't.

If there were a way to restrict distribution of the vaccine to the people that are actively taking precautions to avoid the virus and skip the morons who just HAVE TO GO TO THE CLUB or gathering or other place they shouldn't be, or won't even wear a mask when they are supposed to, I would be all for that. Unfortunately a successful vaccine will result in even more stupidity as there's a certain segment of 'murican society that will view that medical miracle as an excuse for even more idiocy.

"Lemme lick this door handle! Ah been vacciniabated!"
 
2020-12-01 11:15:49 AM  

jaytkay: ColonelCathcart: Islands or homogenous Asian countries.

And wtf does "homogenous" and "Asian" have to do with it. You think South Koreans are genetically immune?


Well, homogenous means they don't have a Trumper subset (like ColonelCathcart) who delight in resisting all health measures if it angers libs. Asian countries tend to be more grownup than that.

So yeah, white countries are screwed and deserve to be decimated by Covid.
 
2020-12-01 11:16:30 AM  

jaytkay: ColonelCathcart: Islands or homogenous Asian countries.

And wtf does "homogenous" and "Asian" have to do with it. You think South Koreans are genetically immune?


They don't have white Americans there intentionally trying to spread the virus.
 
2020-12-01 11:18:00 AM  

Corn_Fed: Just fark it already. Stop with these articles. It doesn't matter, because nothing you say will persuade rightwingers into wearing masks. Nothing.

America won't do it. So stop bothering. Just mask yourself and your immediate loved ones, and then shut up. The more you plead, the more resistant the Trumper set becomes.

You're all like that girlfriend that desperately wants to "fix" her alcoholic boyfriend. You can't seem to accept that the only person you have the power to change is yourself. That's it. Your nagging only makes the problem worse.


I'd agree with pretty much everything you just said, except you had to go and act like this is simply the fault of republicans.  Take care of yourself.  It's the only thing that will actually make a difference.
 
2020-12-01 11:20:09 AM  

rewind2846: ColonelCathcart: kdawg7736: Yeah, but the virus has not been completely contained there.

...and it won't be without Chinese level draconian control that western societies will ever accept.

We just need to get the damn vaccine out!

If the "western societies" are so much more enlightened than the "evil Asians", why is it too much to ask that they take some of that "personal responsibility" they bleat about and act like adults for at least long enough to get the virus under control? Had this been done back in March and April the need for a vaccine now would not be nearly as great, and there would likely be a lot fewer dead people.

That is the real pisser... controlling the virus is something "the west" could have done over half a year ago, and can still do now, without a vaccine. Problem is they won't. Not can't, won't.

If there were a way to restrict distribution of the vaccine to the people that are actively taking precautions to avoid the virus and skip the morons who just HAVE TO GO TO THE CLUB or gathering or other place they shouldn't be, or won't even wear a mask when they are supposed to, I would be all for that. Unfortunately a successful vaccine will result in even more stupidity as there's a certain segment of 'murican society that will view that medical miracle as an excuse for even more idiocy.

"Lemme lick this door handle! Ah been vacciniabated!"


Stop bothering. You have your answer. Leave the Trumpers to their fate.

All you can do is mask yourself. There is no mandate or lockdown that will be followed by the Trumpers.

It's time to give up. Let those who will die, die. America is a failed country. Wait for the vaccine, take it when it's available, and let the rest die.

That really is the only answer now.
 
2020-12-01 11:20:40 AM  

jaytkay: ColonelCathcart: Islands or homogenous Asian countries.

And wtf does "homogenous" and "Asian" have to do with it. You think South Koreans are genetically immune?


I think it's called 'genocide was OK for quite a while, and was very effective.'  I've tried to interview many people who were there when G.Khan took Baghdad, and none of them said it was ineffective.  Interviews with victims of ancient genocides RARELY speak up against it.  I can't even think of one time where that has happened.

BOOM!  *mic drop*  KRAKEN!
 
2020-12-01 11:24:02 AM  

Jeebus Saves: Corn_Fed: Just fark it already. Stop with these articles. It doesn't matter, because nothing you say will persuade rightwingers into wearing masks. Nothing.

America won't do it. So stop bothering. Just mask yourself and your immediate loved ones, and then shut up. The more you plead, the more resistant the Trumper set becomes.

You're all like that girlfriend that desperately wants to "fix" her alcoholic boyfriend. You can't seem to accept that the only person you have the power to change is yourself. That's it. Your nagging only makes the problem worse.

I'd agree with pretty much everything you just said, except you had to go and act like this is simply the fault of republicans.  Take care of yourself.  It's the only thing that will actually make a difference.


Well it 95% is the fault of Republicans. I don't see any other group actively and proudly denying health measures. Others might make an occasional mistake, but for Republicans, it's been deliberate, and a point of pride.
 
2020-12-01 11:26:24 AM  
They went from 1.32% to .96%. The 30% drop headline makes it seem like a lot, but it isn't. If an article uses percents, look up the real numbers, if it uses percent change, look up the percents, and if it uses real numbers, look up the percents. They're selling ads.
 
2020-12-01 11:26:32 AM  

jaytkay: ColonelCathcart: Islands or homogenous Asian countries.

Name one white country that isn't an island that controlled it.

The UK is an island, dispshiat. And Australia is not.


"Continent" that is sealed off from the world. An island by another name.

While the Brits cannot close their border to Europe.

False equivalence is false.

Name one non-East Asian country that isn't an island or cannot close their borders that beat COVID.
 
2020-12-01 11:27:31 AM  
According to my Uncle Europe is all communist.
 
2020-12-01 11:28:07 AM  

Corn_Fed: jaytkay: ColonelCathcart: Islands or homogenous Asian countries.

And wtf does "homogenous" and "Asian" have to do with it. You think South Koreans are genetically immune?

Well, homogenous means they don't have a Trumper subset (like ColonelCathcart) who delight in resisting all health measures if it angers libs. Asian countries tend to be more grownup than that.

So yeah, white countries are screwed and deserve to be decimated by Covid.


I wear my mask all the time, and have been cooped up in my home since March so kiss my ass.

The only stuff I do is outdoors and with Mrs. Cathcart and our family didn't have thanksgiving together and I lost someone I know to COVID. So fark you calling me a Plague Rqt.
 
2020-12-01 11:30:13 AM  

WastrelWay: CordycepsInYourBrain: If they weren't already socialists, they wouldn't have allowed themselves to be locked down. Think it out, sheeple!

Not exactly. The difference is that the national government in Britain can establish a nation-wide lockdown. The US government cannot. It's up to the states in the US.


The national government has devolved its powers to the individual states. Scotland, Wales and Ireland lite are in control of their own lockdowns.
 
2020-12-01 11:30:32 AM  

jaytkay: ColonelCathcart: Islands or homogenous Asian countries.

And wtf does "homogenous" and "Asian" have to do with it. You think South Koreans are genetically immune?


A lot.

(East) Asians follow authority. Look at China, Korea, and Japan. It's all rule-following cultures, instilled from birth both in school and at home. And because they're "homogenous" - they all follow the rules.

Unlike America (and the white west) where it's all about individualism and freedom to do whatever it is you want to do.
 
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