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2020-11-30 5:30:50 PM  
Elections have consequences. This is why you choose the person you think will do the best job, not just give you a financial handy and piss on the poors.

Look at the nations that dealt with this mess like adults, and look at a nation that coddled and encouraged immature and irresponsible children who "din't waaaaaaana!"

Stop mollycoddling idiots. Stop trying to shuck and jive them for cash. Recognize that there ARE going to be a certain degree of idiots, and make the consequences for being THAT f*ckin' stoopid so great, that most will reconsider, and the few that do go ahead, are jacked up as a warning sign.

Stakes are too high to be playing these games.
 
2020-11-30 7:07:18 PM  
"Our?"

Some of us missed out on damn near everything since Spring while others are blissfully living life as they always do. Put the blame where it belongs.
 
2020-11-30 7:25:51 PM  
FTA: This juncture, perhaps more than any to date, exposes the deep political divisions that have allowed the pandemic to take root and bloom, and that will determine the depth of the winter ahead.

"Deep political divisions?"

That's a funny way of saying: Idiocy of right-wingers who have no concept of what their freedoms actually are versus them just thinking they can do whatever they want (i.e., walk around sans mask, infecting people).
 
2020-11-30 7:40:04 PM  

hubiestubert: Elections have consequences. This is why you choose the person you think will do the best job, not just give you a financial handy and piss on the poors.

Look at the nations that dealt with this mess like adults, and look at a nation that coddled and encouraged immature and irresponsible children who "din't waaaaaaana!"

Stop mollycoddling idiots. Stop trying to shuck and jive them for cash. Recognize that there ARE going to be a certain degree of idiots, and make the consequences for being THAT f*ckin' stoopid so great, that most will reconsider, and the few that do go ahead, are jacked up as a warning sign.

Stakes are too high to be playing these games.


I think you said in another thread you are currently COVID positive. Out of curiosity, do you know how you got it? You don't seem one to play fast and loose with the guidelines, though the guidelines are obviously not 100%. Any idea? Just curious.
 
2020-11-30 8:02:31 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: hubiestubert: Elections have consequences. This is why you choose the person you think will do the best job, not just give you a financial handy and piss on the poors.

Look at the nations that dealt with this mess like adults, and look at a nation that coddled and encouraged immature and irresponsible children who "din't waaaaaaana!"

Stop mollycoddling idiots. Stop trying to shuck and jive them for cash. Recognize that there ARE going to be a certain degree of idiots, and make the consequences for being THAT f*ckin' stoopid so great, that most will reconsider, and the few that do go ahead, are jacked up as a warning sign.

Stakes are too high to be playing these games.

I think you said in another thread you are currently COVID positive. Out of curiosity, do you know how you got it? You don't seem one to play fast and loose with the guidelines, though the guidelines are obviously not 100%. Any idea? Just curious.


Likely, I was exposed while shopping. None of my coworkers came up positive. We don't have a cluster at the job site. That or taking a cab or a bus. I'm careful, I mask up, but being around randos who you don't know, and don't trust is the most likely element.

Though, according to the test that came back today, I should be good for work. I'm in quarantine a little longer, just to be safe, because the symptoms I have are more in line with a proper flu, and given these times, I'd like to NOT pass on something to someone who is immuno-compromised.

Do not f*ck around with this sh*t. You can be safe, but even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and Autumn moon is bright. Crowds, even the small press in the grocery or at the pharmacy, they just give a bolster to just strength of numbers.
 
2020-11-30 8:51:27 PM  
The vast sea of Trumpers would not have politicized mask-wearing without promting from their Great Orange Messiah.

Trump, meanwhile, set as his key tactic undermining any response. At first this was to prop up the stock market -- which actually worked (it was nearly in the toilet), then it was to just deny anything was the matter. This became his electoral ploy once it was clear his gibbering, foolish followers wanted him to deny and refuse.

Make no mistake, Donald Trump got up to 72 million votes BECAUSE he was so terrible on COVID. Pretending it was a laugh/hoax was an act of demented genius, and we're all paying for it.
 
2020-11-30 9:47:45 PM  
June, 2021, at a minimum. If you're struggling now, find help. You're going to need it to get through the next 7 months.
 
2020-11-30 9:51:33 PM  

hubiestubert: Three Crooked Squirrels: hubiestubert: Elections have consequences. This is why you choose the person you think will do the best job, not just give you a financial handy and piss on the poors.

Look at the nations that dealt with this mess like adults, and look at a nation that coddled and encouraged immature and irresponsible children who "din't waaaaaaana!"

Stop mollycoddling idiots. Stop trying to shuck and jive them for cash. Recognize that there ARE going to be a certain degree of idiots, and make the consequences for being THAT f*ckin' stoopid so great, that most will reconsider, and the few that do go ahead, are jacked up as a warning sign.

Stakes are too high to be playing these games.

I think you said in another thread you are currently COVID positive. Out of curiosity, do you know how you got it? You don't seem one to play fast and loose with the guidelines, though the guidelines are obviously not 100%. Any idea? Just curious.

Likely, I was exposed while shopping. None of my coworkers came up positive. We don't have a cluster at the job site. That or taking a cab or a bus. I'm careful, I mask up, but being around randos who you don't know, and don't trust is the most likely element.

Though, according to the test that came back today, I should be good for work. I'm in quarantine a little longer, just to be safe, because the symptoms I have are more in line with a proper flu, and given these times, I'd like to NOT pass on something to someone who is immuno-compromised.

Do not f*ck around with this sh*t. You can be safe, but even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and Autumn moon is bright. Crowds, even the small press in the grocery or at the pharmacy, they just give a bolster to just strength of numbers.


This is why I told my roommate that I'd split grocery delivery costs with him - I do not want to unnecessary expose myself to COVID, especially after Thanksgiving.
 
2020-11-30 9:52:02 PM  

hubiestubert: Three Crooked Squirrels: hubiestubert: Elections have consequences. This is why you choose the person you think will do the best job, not just give you a financial handy and piss on the poors.

Look at the nations that dealt with this mess like adults, and look at a nation that coddled and encouraged immature and irresponsible children who "din't waaaaaaana!"

Stop mollycoddling idiots. Stop trying to shuck and jive them for cash. Recognize that there ARE going to be a certain degree of idiots, and make the consequences for being THAT f*ckin' stoopid so great, that most will reconsider, and the few that do go ahead, are jacked up as a warning sign.

Stakes are too high to be playing these games.

I think you said in another thread you are currently COVID positive. Out of curiosity, do you know how you got it? You don't seem one to play fast and loose with the guidelines, though the guidelines are obviously not 100%. Any idea? Just curious.

Likely, I was exposed while shopping. None of my coworkers came up positive. We don't have a cluster at the job site. That or taking a cab or a bus. I'm careful, I mask up, but being around randos who you don't know, and don't trust is the most likely element.

Though, according to the test that came back today, I should be good for work. I'm in quarantine a little longer, just to be safe, because the symptoms I have are more in line with a proper flu, and given these times, I'd like to NOT pass on something to someone who is immuno-compromised.

Do not f*ck around with this sh*t. You can be safe, but even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and Autumn moon is bright. Crowds, even the small press in the grocery or at the pharmacy, they just give a bolster to just strength of numbers.


I got covid and ate a bunch of people during a full moon. Was I not supposed to do that? I wore a mask before and after eating, so I was within the guidelines. Sounds like socialism.
 
2020-11-30 9:53:35 PM  
Wait until Biden takes over and the Big Orange Baboon starts leading from the peanut gallery. Constant cries of "ignore your governor's orders, they can't stop all of us!" and semi-frequent stories of coughing in liberals' faces as another act of indignant pwnage.

The real solution is mowing a crowd of them down with automatic weapons as a lesson to the others, but that's off the table until the grifting class get bored with profiting off a pandemic.
 
2020-11-30 9:56:00 PM  
Down 4 people in my department this week due to potential exposures. Not on my shift yet but we'll just say I'm less than optimistic about the rest of the month due to the still pervasive "I don't care and I don't have to follow simple instructions because muh freedumpth" attitude around this area. Of course this will likely mean OT for me going into the new year so yay?
 
2020-11-30 9:59:53 PM  
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2020-11-30 10:03:28 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: which actually worked (it was nearly in the toilet)


I really can't find any indication that Trump did anything to stop the decline, in fact his inaction is what caused the sell-off on Feb 20 when the cruise ships found people with covid on board. Nothing he did between then and the next month could be construed as helping the stock market, other than him speaking even less in public about coronavirus.
 
2020-11-30 10:06:47 PM  

monsatano: hubiestubert: Three Crooked Squirrels: hubiestubert: Elections have consequences. This is why you choose the person you think will do the best job, not just give you a financial handy and piss on the poors.

Look at the nations that dealt with this mess like adults, and look at a nation that coddled and encouraged immature and irresponsible children who "din't waaaaaaana!"

Stop mollycoddling idiots. Stop trying to shuck and jive them for cash. Recognize that there ARE going to be a certain degree of idiots, and make the consequences for being THAT f*ckin' stoopid so great, that most will reconsider, and the few that do go ahead, are jacked up as a warning sign.

Stakes are too high to be playing these games.

I think you said in another thread you are currently COVID positive. Out of curiosity, do you know how you got it? You don't seem one to play fast and loose with the guidelines, though the guidelines are obviously not 100%. Any idea? Just curious.

Likely, I was exposed while shopping. None of my coworkers came up positive. We don't have a cluster at the job site. That or taking a cab or a bus. I'm careful, I mask up, but being around randos who you don't know, and don't trust is the most likely element.

Though, according to the test that came back today, I should be good for work. I'm in quarantine a little longer, just to be safe, because the symptoms I have are more in line with a proper flu, and given these times, I'd like to NOT pass on something to someone who is immuno-compromised.

Do not f*ck around with this sh*t. You can be safe, but even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and Autumn moon is bright. Crowds, even the small press in the grocery or at the pharmacy, they just give a bolster to just strength of numbers.

I got covid and ate a bunch of people during a full moon. Was I not supposed to do that? I wore a mask before and after eating, so I was within the guidelines. Sounds like socialism...


So long as you maintained a social distances, killed the you loved, and put your mask on after, you should be good.
 
2020-11-30 10:08:58 PM  
One you love.

I'll go over there now.
 
2020-11-30 10:09:04 PM  

hubiestubert: Do not f*ck around with this sh*t. You can be safe, but even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and Autumn moon is bright. Crowds, even the small press in the grocery or at the pharmacy, they just give a bolster to just strength of numbers.

I saw Lon Chaney Jr. buying hand sanitizer at Duane Reade
And his hair was perfect.  Dup!

 
2020-11-30 10:09:38 PM  
With the stock market still hitting record highs, all this plague can't be all that bad, certainly.
 
2020-11-30 10:11:44 PM  

Kubo: FTA: This juncture, perhaps more than any to date, exposes the deep political divisions that have allowed the pandemic to take root and bloom, and that will determine the depth of the winter ahead.

"Deep political divisions?"

That's a funny way of saying: Idiocy of right-wingers who have no concept of what their freedoms actually are versus them just thinking they can do whatever they want (i.e., walk around sans mask, infecting people).


But that doesn't sound at ALL like BSAB.

You don't expect the 5th columnist media to admit that both sides aren't equally bad, do you?
 
2020-11-30 10:13:48 PM  

hubiestubert: Three Crooked Squirrels: hubiestubert: Elections have consequences. This is why you choose the person you think will do the best job, not just give you a financial handy and piss on the poors.

Look at the nations that dealt with this mess like adults, and look at a nation that coddled and encouraged immature and irresponsible children who "din't waaaaaaana!"

Stop mollycoddling idiots. Stop trying to shuck and jive them for cash. Recognize that there ARE going to be a certain degree of idiots, and make the consequences for being THAT f*ckin' stoopid so great, that most will reconsider, and the few that do go ahead, are jacked up as a warning sign.

Stakes are too high to be playing these games.

I think you said in another thread you are currently COVID positive. Out of curiosity, do you know how you got it? You don't seem one to play fast and loose with the guidelines, though the guidelines are obviously not 100%. Any idea? Just curious.

Likely, I was exposed while shopping. None of my coworkers came up positive. We don't have a cluster at the job site. That or taking a cab or a bus. I'm careful, I mask up, but being around randos who you don't know, and don't trust is the most likely element.

Though, according to the test that came back today, I should be good for work. I'm in quarantine a little longer, just to be safe, because the symptoms I have are more in line with a proper flu, and given these times, I'd like to NOT pass on something to someone who is immuno-compromised.

Do not f*ck around with this sh*t. You can be safe, but even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and Autumn moon is bright. Crowds, even the small press in the grocery or at the pharmacy, they just give a bolster to just strength of numbers.


Because it's late and why the hell not.

Iced Earth - Wolf [Lyric video]
Youtube Ukc2eMq2gLE

/Look, I'm not gonna claim it's good
//But high school me loved this shiat
 
2020-11-30 10:15:55 PM  
Oh.  And glad you're okay Hubie.
 
2020-11-30 10:16:10 PM  
Coronavirus IV: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
Youtube 6s4Bx7mzNkM


"While many of the problems we're being forced to confront right now weren't created by the Coronavirus, it has thrown a spotlight on some of the biggest flaws on how our system operates. Things like paid sick leave and hazard pay are essentially band-aids and we absolutely need them right now because we're bleeding. But, when this is over, this country's gonna need more than band-aids, it's gonna need FARKING surgery.

Things need to change and not go back to normal. Control-Z-ing us back to how we were in 2016 is simply not gonna cut it, and honestly, it shouldn't have taken a pandemic to prove our unemployment system is a mess, that we need universal healthcare, and that workers need benefits, the right to organize, and wages that reflect how essential they really are.

And, we also shouldn't have needed a pandemic to consider whether mass incarceration is tolerable as prisons and jails become petri dishes for the Coronavirus or whether our treatment of the homeless is adequate when we've seen photos of them sleeping in a parking lot six feet apart, or what we do about the multiple underlying inequalities that are making this virus in some places twice as deadly for black and latino people as whites."
 
2020-11-30 10:23:20 PM  
I'm kinda surprised this wasn't about the Dem Party's long-standing refusal to fully investigate crimes committed by prior GOP administrations.

/one could write an article about such that would yield the same Fark headline
 
2020-11-30 10:23:42 PM  

BeesNuts: Oh.  And glad you're okay Hubie.


I had it easy. There are Farkers who went through Hell. Big Up on all of them.

I got a cough and a positive tick. I was likely asymptomatic and just dealing with this flu. But I do appreciate the sentiment, and thank you.
 
2020-11-30 10:28:31 PM  
More than once during the last year I have thought

"and the meek shall inherit the Earth."

Right when the whole world is telling us the exact opposite, in this age of "ME ME Facebook, Twitter, do anything for a click" culture, here comes a threat that demands only that people be humble and cover their face. The winners will be those humble enough to observe and learn. Any other kind of hubris will be punished.

Just a thought.
 
2020-11-30 10:42:58 PM  

FormlessOne: June, 2021, at a minimum. If you're struggling now, find help. You're going to need it to get through the next 7 months.


I'm just now starting to climb out of a mental health crisis that landed me briefly in the ER a couple weeks ago. I'm extremely fortunate to have a strong support system in place, but it's hard and it's farkin real, friends. I'd built up a myth of myself as a solitary soul who enjoyed plying her interpersonal skills for the benefits of others, but the past couple of months especially have underscored for me how starved for human connection I am. And the hell of it is I find myself in a situation where the temptation to play fast and loose with quarantine - the most recklessly irresponsible thing I could do - would very likely also provide me with at least a taste of the thing that feels the most like a tonic for my psyche. All that a roundabout way of urging you to listen to your inner voice, and don't try to tough it out. Reach out to who you can, or if you can't, hell, EIP;drop me a line. I don't have anywhere remotely close to any of the answers, but I can always listen, and I'll gladly do it if it's a help. Be good to yourselves; self care isn't just a touchy-goopy thing we say to justify spending money we don't have on stuff we don't need. It's real and it's something we all need to be doing, as much as we can. Dark days ahead, but we can get through them, together apart 💜
 
2020-11-30 10:43:04 PM  
I've got an instructor on ECMO 2 hours from his home.

The district is saying we can't prove it was due to exposure at work, even though a positive student was in his class a week prior. We have a dead sub who was a full time teacher's retired parent who just came in to help out.

They're rattling sabers about a prospective sick out. City Health department just said it was risky to have in person instruction, who they claim to be following the guidance of.

fark every politician mandating for teachers to be back in class for in person instruction.

Teachers are dying.
 
2020-11-30 10:45:48 PM  
Kinda hoping that Covid-19 is sort of a test. Let the intelligent and those not-so-smart choose how they behave during a pandemic. This one was not so deadly. This one. The next one will be worse. And those that dont believe in science, that live thru this, not wearing a mask, not distancing, not taking precautions will again turn their nose up at recommendations and will pay dearly for their ignorance. And balance will be restored to society.
 
2020-11-30 10:49:25 PM  
I don't get the need to constantly make it about Trump. You look around at places like LA, NYC, Miami, Europe, places where cases have been or continue to be high.  And you think it's because of anything Trump said?

Do we really think minority communities have been disproportionally hit because they're listening to Trump's message? Or that Rhode Island is Trump country?

And this isn't a defense of Trump, it's a critique of journalism.  Why are journalists attempting to shove an obviously untrue narrative down our throats?
 
2020-11-30 10:54:17 PM  

DuckSausage: With the stock market still hitting record highs, all this plague can't be all that bad, certainly.


Aaaand another identical profile...
 
2020-11-30 10:54:31 PM  

2fardownthread: More than once during the last year I have thought
"and the meek shall inherit the Earth."
Right when the whole world is telling us the exact opposite, in this age of "ME ME Facebook, Twitter, do anything for a click" culture, here comes a threat that demands only that people be humble and cover their face. The winners will be those humble enough to observe and learn. Any other kind of hubris will be punished.
Just a thought.


Nice thought, but Americans are not "meek" in any sense of the word.
In the end, those with the money are going to win. And Americans had a LOT to do with how they got there.
 
2020-11-30 11:06:27 PM  

BolshyGreatYarblocks: hubiestubert: Do not f*ck around with this sh*t. You can be safe, but even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and Autumn moon is bright. Crowds, even the small press in the grocery or at the pharmacy, they just give a bolster to just strength of numbers.

I saw Lon Chaney Jr. buying hand sanitizer at Duane Reade
And his hair was perfect.  Dup!


niiiice...
 
2020-11-30 11:28:52 PM  

monsatano: hubiestubert: Three Crooked Squirrels: hubiestubert: Elections have consequences. This is why you choose the person you think will do the best job, not just give you a financial handy and piss on the poors.

Look at the nations that dealt with this mess like adults, and look at a nation that coddled and encouraged immature and irresponsible children who "din't waaaaaaana!"

Stop mollycoddling idiots. Stop trying to shuck and jive them for cash. Recognize that there ARE going to be a certain degree of idiots, and make the consequences for being THAT f*ckin' stoopid so great, that most will reconsider, and the few that do go ahead, are jacked up as a warning sign.

Stakes are too high to be playing these games.

I think you said in another thread you are currently COVID positive. Out of curiosity, do you know how you got it? You don't seem one to play fast and loose with the guidelines, though the guidelines are obviously not 100%. Any idea? Just curious.

Likely, I was exposed while shopping. None of my coworkers came up positive. We don't have a cluster at the job site. That or taking a cab or a bus. I'm careful, I mask up, but being around randos who you don't know, and don't trust is the most likely element.

Though, according to the test that came back today, I should be good for work. I'm in quarantine a little longer, just to be safe, because the symptoms I have are more in line with a proper flu, and given these times, I'd like to NOT pass on something to someone who is immuno-compromised.

Do not f*ck around with this sh*t. You can be safe, but even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and Autumn moon is bright. Crowds, even the small press in the grocery or at the pharmacy, they just give a bolster to just strength of numbers.

I got covid and ate a bunch of people during a full moon. Was I not supposed to do that? I wore a mask before and after eating, so I was within the guidelines. Sounds like ...


Go on.....
 
2020-11-30 11:51:05 PM  

carkiller: FormlessOne: June, 2021, at a minimum. If you're struggling now, find help. You're going to need it to get through the next 7 months.

I'm just now starting to climb out of a mental health crisis that landed me briefly in the ER a couple weeks ago. I'm extremely fortunate to have a strong support system in place, but it's hard and it's farkin real, friends. I'd built up a myth of myself as a solitary soul who enjoyed plying her interpersonal skills for the benefits of others, but the past couple of months especially have underscored for me how starved for human connection I am. And the hell of it is I find myself in a situation where the temptation to play fast and loose with quarantine - the most recklessly irresponsible thing I could do - would very likely also provide me with at least a taste of the thing that feels the most like a tonic for my psyche. All that a roundabout way of urging you to listen to your inner voice, and don't try to tough it out. Reach out to who you can, or if you can't, hell, EIP;drop me a line. I don't have anywhere remotely close to any of the answers, but I can always listen, and I'll gladly do it if it's a help. Be good to yourselves; self care isn't just a touchy-goopy thing we say to justify spending money we don't have on stuff we don't need. It's real and it's something we all need to be doing, as much as we can. Dark days ahead, but we can get through them, together apart 💜


Absolutely, and eloquently put.
 
2020-12-01 12:08:26 AM  

FireSpy: monsatano: hubiestubert: Three Crooked Squirrels: hubiestubert: Elections have consequences. This is why you choose the person you think will do the best job, not just give you a financial handy and piss on the poors.

Look at the nations that dealt with this mess like adults, and look at a nation that coddled and encouraged immature and irresponsible children who "din't waaaaaaana!"

Stop mollycoddling idiots. Stop trying to shuck and jive them for cash. Recognize that there ARE going to be a certain degree of idiots, and make the consequences for being THAT f*ckin' stoopid so great, that most will reconsider, and the few that do go ahead, are jacked up as a warning sign.

Stakes are too high to be playing these games.

I think you said in another thread you are currently COVID positive. Out of curiosity, do you know how you got it? You don't seem one to play fast and loose with the guidelines, though the guidelines are obviously not 100%. Any idea? Just curious.

Likely, I was exposed while shopping. None of my coworkers came up positive. We don't have a cluster at the job site. That or taking a cab or a bus. I'm careful, I mask up, but being around randos who you don't know, and don't trust is the most likely element.

Though, according to the test that came back today, I should be good for work. I'm in quarantine a little longer, just to be safe, because the symptoms I have are more in line with a proper flu, and given these times, I'd like to NOT pass on something to someone who is immuno-compromised.

Do not f*ck around with this sh*t. You can be safe, but even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and Autumn moon is bright. Crowds, even the small press in the grocery or at the pharmacy, they just give a bolster to just strength of numbers.

I got covid and ate a bunch of people during a full moon. Was I not supposed to do that? I wore a mask before and after eating, so I was within the guidelines. Sounds like socialism...

So long as you maintained a social distances, killed the you loved, and put your mask on after, you should be good.


Thank you. They died a good death - I was hungry.
 
2020-12-01 12:11:25 AM  

Lady J: DuckSausage: With the stock market still hitting record highs, all this plague can't be all that bad, certainly.

Aaaand another identical profile...


Drew needs that 'rona money like the rest of us.
 
2020-12-01 12:16:26 AM  

aoktrouble: monsatano: hubiestubert: Three Crooked Squirrels: hubiestubert: Elections have consequences. This is why you choose the person you think will do the best job, not just give you a financial handy and piss on the poors.

Look at the nations that dealt with this mess like adults, and look at a nation that coddled and encouraged immature and irresponsible children who "din't waaaaaaana!"

Stop mollycoddling idiots. Stop trying to shuck and jive them for cash. Recognize that there ARE going to be a certain degree of idiots, and make the consequences for being THAT f*ckin' stoopid so great, that most will reconsider, and the few that do go ahead, are jacked up as a warning sign.

Stakes are too high to be playing these games.

I think you said in another thread you are currently COVID positive. Out of curiosity, do you know how you got it? You don't seem one to play fast and loose with the guidelines, though the guidelines are obviously not 100%. Any idea? Just curious.

Likely, I was exposed while shopping. None of my coworkers came up positive. We don't have a cluster at the job site. That or taking a cab or a bus. I'm careful, I mask up, but being around randos who you don't know, and don't trust is the most likely element.

Though, according to the test that came back today, I should be good for work. I'm in quarantine a little longer, just to be safe, because the symptoms I have are more in line with a proper flu, and given these times, I'd like to NOT pass on something to someone who is immuno-compromised.

Do not f*ck around with this sh*t. You can be safe, but even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and Autumn moon is bright. Crowds, even the small press in the grocery or at the pharmacy, they just give a bolster to just strength of numbers.

I got covid and ate a bunch of people during a full moon. Was I not supposed to do that? I wore a mask before and after eating, so I was within the guidelines. Sounds like ...

Go on.....


They tasted like chicken. Third world chicken. Probably because they were homeless and hadn't eaten in awhile. Something about not having any money and getting evicted or whatever. Long pig is a lie.
 
2020-12-01 12:20:28 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: I don't get the need to constantly make it about Trump. You look around at places like LA, NYC, Miami, Europe, places where cases have been or continue to be high.  And you think it's because of anything Trump said?

Do we really think minority communities have been disproportionally hit because they're listening to Trump's message? Or that Rhode Island is Trump country?

And this isn't a defense of Trump, it's a critique of journalism.  Why are journalists attempting to shove an obviously untrue narrative down our throats?


You uh, you DO realize that not everyone in a blue area is actually a Democrat, right? Just that the majority of them are.

A virus doesn't care who it gets spread to; it just spreads. In areas that are densely populated (like, say, cities), it spreads fast. So a few irresponsible jackoffs can easily end up infecting a shiatload of people who were being more cautious (particularly since none of the precautions are 100% effective against catching COVID).

Trump doesn't have all of the blame, true. But he made it a partisan issue, he trained his cult to reject all precautions in the name of "Freedom", and he deliberately undermined efforts by sensible states to control shiat early. He has the blood of, at minimum, tens of thousands of Americans on his hands.

/Republicans in general have some of the blame, too, since they refused to just pay people to stay home until things were a bit more controlled like a civilized country, and have refused any relief that didn't include protecting corporations from legal consequences for getting workers infected.

//Capitalism itself shares a lot of the blame, too. The whole 'We need to stay open/open up again sooner fOr ThE eCoNoMy' shiat caused a shiatload of deaths worldwide that could have been avoided if we just made the billionaires the ones forced to dip into their savings for once.
 
2020-12-01 12:22:10 AM  

LordJiro: if we just made the billionaires the ones forced to dip into their savings for once.


Sorry, the rainy-day fund is currently leveraged in bitcoin and Regeneron stock...
 
2020-12-01 12:45:54 AM  

monsatano: Long pig is a lie.


I've heard that about cake, too.
 
2020-12-01 12:47:16 AM  

LordJiro: GrizzlyPouch: I don't get the need to constantly make it about Trump. You look around at places like LA, NYC, Miami, Europe, places where cases have been or continue to be high.  And you think it's because of anything Trump said?

Do we really think minority communities have been disproportionally hit because they're listening to Trump's message? Or that Rhode Island is Trump country?

And this isn't a defense of Trump, it's a critique of journalism.  Why are journalists attempting to shove an obviously untrue narrative down our throats?

You uh, you DO realize that not everyone in a blue area is actually a Democrat, right? Just that the majority of them are.

A virus doesn't care who it gets spread to; it just spreads. In areas that are densely populated (like, say, cities), it spreads fast. So a few irresponsible jackoffs can easily end up infecting a shiatload of people who were being more cautious (particularly since none of the precautions are 100% effective against catching COVID).

Trump doesn't have all of the blame, true. But he made it a partisan issue, he trained his cult to reject all precautions in the name of "Freedom", and he deliberately undermined efforts by sensible states to control shiat early. He has the blood of, at minimum, tens of thousands of Americans on his hands.

/Republicans in general have some of the blame, too, since they refused to just pay people to stay home until things were a bit more controlled like a civilized country, and have refused any relief that didn't include protecting corporations from legal consequences for getting workers infected.

//Capitalism itself shares a lot of the blame, too. The whole 'We need to stay open/open up again sooner fOr ThE eCoNoMy' shiat caused a shiatload of deaths worldwide that could have been avoided if we just made the billionaires the ones forced to dip into their savings for once.


Please.  The party that tried to pretend that hydroxycholoroquine, a drug safely prescribed for decades, is extremely dangerous is the party that politicized it.

Trump was criticized for every single move, from day 1.  His travel bans are another example
 
2020-12-01 1:11:06 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Please. The party that tried to pretend that hydroxycholoroquine, a drug safely prescribed for decades, is extremely dangerous is the party that politicized it.


Hydroxychloroquine has side effects. Those side effects may be worth risking to treat the disease it's meant to treat, but they sure as shiat aren't worth risking when it's used against COVID-19, a disease it has shown no real effectiveness against.

Trump was criticized for every single move, from day 1. His travel bans are another example

You mean his 'travel ban' that A: still let 40,000+ people travel from China, and B: didn't ban travel from anywhere else, despite the disease already having spread to other countries?

Yeah, can't imagine why he was criticized for that. Democrats acted like it was some nakedly stupid move by an idiot with a history of doing stupid shiat just to wave his toadstool at China!
 
2020-12-01 1:17:26 AM  

thehobbes: I've got an instructor on ECMO 2 hours from his home.

The district is saying we can't prove it was due to exposure at work, even though a positive student was in his class a week prior. We have a dead sub who was a full time teacher's retired parent who just came in to help out.

They're rattling sabers about a prospective sick out. City Health department just said it was risky to have in person instruction, who they claim to be following the guidance of.

fark every politician mandating for teachers to be back in class for in person instruction.

Teachers are dying.


Being a teacher myself can't agree more. A lot of schools here were shut down the last two weeks due to high case counts, and many of them returned to in-person instruction today. Right after thanksgiving. I'm not optimistic as to the result of this decision.
 
2020-12-01 2:33:07 AM  

FormlessOne: monsatano: Long pig is a lie.

I've heard that about cake, too.


Cake is never a lie.
 
2020-12-01 4:18:14 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: I don't get the need to constantly make it about Trump. You look around at places like LA, NYC, Miami, Europe, places where cases have been or continue to be high.  And you think it's because of anything Trump said?

Do we really think minority communities have been disproportionally hit because they're listening to Trump's message? Or that Rhode Island is Trump country?

And this isn't a defense of Trump, it's a critique of journalism.  Why are journalists attempting to shove an obviously untrue narrative down our throats?


We had a guy watching for this type of thing in China prior to this year. Trump fired him.
We had a pandemic response team of experts who prevented Zika and Ebola from getting here and spreading. Trump disbanded them
We had a detailed plan on how to handle a pandemic. Trump disregarded that.
We could have closed our boarders when it was limited in spread. Trump only restricted Chinese people.
We needed coordinated efforts to prevent viral reservoirs from forming - Trump refused to take responsibility and left it to the states.
When we were shutting down states to keep the spread under control, Trump lead the "open <state name> campaigns

These are all facts. What part do you see as "obviously untrue"?
 
2020-12-01 8:29:49 AM  

LordJiro: GrizzlyPouch: Please. The party that tried to pretend that hydroxycholoroquine, a drug safely prescribed for decades, is extremely dangerous is the party that politicized it.

Hydroxychloroquine has side effects. Those side effects may be worth risking to treat the disease it's meant to treat, but they sure as shiat aren't worth risking when it's used against COVID-19, a disease it has shown no real effectiveness against.

Trump was criticized for every single move, from day 1. His travel bans are another example

You mean his 'travel ban' that A: still let 40,000+ people travel from China, and B: didn't ban travel from anywhere else, despite the disease already having spread to other countries?

Yeah, can't imagine why he was criticized for that. Democrats acted like it was some nakedly stupid move by an idiot with a history of doing stupid shiat just to wave his toadstool at China!


How do u think a drug designed to treat malaria has ended up today mostly being prescribed for arthritis?  Doctors trying it as a treatment. Definitely worth the risk during a pandemic

And what was Trump supposed to do, ban American citizens from entering the country. No Dem wouldve had the balls for that. And they all would've criticized him for.

And I guess you're forgetting the Europe ban.  Which Dems were critical of
 
2020-12-01 8:33:39 AM  

NotARocketScientist: GrizzlyPouch: I don't get the need to constantly make it about Trump. You look around at places like LA, NYC, Miami, Europe, places where cases have been or continue to be high.  And you think it's because of anything Trump said?

Do we really think minority communities have been disproportionally hit because they're listening to Trump's message? Or that Rhode Island is Trump country?

And this isn't a defense of Trump, it's a critique of journalism.  Why are journalists attempting to shove an obviously untrue narrative down our throats?

We had a guy watching for this type of thing in China prior to this year. Trump fired him.
We had a pandemic response team of experts who prevented Zika and Ebola from getting here and spreading. Trump disbanded them
We had a detailed plan on how to handle a pandemic. Trump disregarded that.
We could have closed our boarders when it was limited in spread. Trump only restricted Chinese people.
We needed coordinated efforts to prevent viral reservoirs from forming - Trump refused to take responsibility and left it to the states.
When we were shutting down states to keep the spread under control, Trump lead the "open <state name> campaigns

These are all facts. What part do you see as "obviously untrue"?


None.

What you're not telling me is how any of that made a difference.

You say Trump left everything up to the states.  Like Cuomo's?  Did you know he's written a book on how to fight the pandemic?

So if the guy who wrote the book on it can't figure out how to stop it, what was Trump supposed to do?
 
2020-12-01 10:01:33 AM  

thehobbes: I've got an instructor on ECMO 2 hours from his home.

The district is saying we can't prove it was due to exposure at work, even though a positive student was in his class a week prior. We have a dead sub who was a full time teacher's retired parent who just came in to help out.

They're rattling sabers about a prospective sick out. City Health department just said it was risky to have in person instruction, who they claim to be following the guidance of.

fark every politician mandating for teachers to be back in class for in person instruction.

Teachers are dying.


this is why I (and other farkers) are dubious of schools opening and being considered low risk.  How are exposures at schools really being tracked?  reminds me of the cancer stuff...how can you prove smoking for years caused the cancer and not 1000 other environmental factors.

I'd lay dollars to donuts that parents with known asymptomatic kids are still sending them to school, especially parents who cannot quarantine themselves for two weeks to watch the kids.  They do it with sniffles all the time.
 
2020-12-01 10:17:41 AM  

Hyjamon: this is why I (and other farkers) are dubious of schools opening and being considered low risk.  How are exposures at schools really being tracked?  reminds me of the cancer stuff...how can you prove smoking for years caused the cancer and not 1000 other environmental factors.


They aren't. They have some reserve deputy and environmental health guy playing amateur epidemiologist, poorly at that. They've dropped the ball a lot and defer to what they've read on the CDC website.

Hyjamon:I'd lay dollars to donuts that parents with known asymptomatic kids are still sending them to school, especially parents who cannot quarantine themselves for two weeks to watch the kids.  They do it with sniffles all the time.

Yup. Kids are sick but they want to be at school because they're sick of being at home. here they can socialize.

The promised temp checks and health screenings never happened. They won't even get us plexiglass dividers and we have  to decon between classes with cloth masks....

Now health department has said it is "extremely risky" to do in person classes, so of course the admin is ignoring it.
 
2020-12-01 11:05:32 AM  

thehobbes: Yup. Kids are sick but they want to be at school because they're sick of being at home. here they can socialize.

The promised temp checks and health screenings never happened. They won't even get us plexiglass dividers and we have  to decon between classes with cloth masks....

Now health department has said it is "extremely risky" to do in person classes, so of course the admin is ignoring it.


I have some friends who teach in high schools in GA...reporting similar.  That they have blown past what ever decision matrix they established at the start of the year.  Plus fun things like if you learn that a student was positive in your class, you are not considered exposed since you were never in "close contact" with the student.

glad mine are virtual and we are fortunate enough to make it work.
 
2020-12-01 11:22:07 AM  

Hyjamon: thehobbes: Yup. Kids are sick but they want to be at school because they're sick of being at home. here they can socialize.

The promised temp checks and health screenings never happened. They won't even get us plexiglass dividers and we have  to decon between classes with cloth masks....

Now health department has said it is "extremely risky" to do in person classes, so of course the admin is ignoring it.

I have some friends who teach in high schools in GA...reporting similar.  That they have blown past what ever decision matrix they established at the start of the year.  Plus fun things like if you learn that a student was positive in your class, you are not considered exposed since you were never in "close contact" with the student.

glad mine are virtual and we are fortunate enough to make it work.


Yup. Have to be within 6 feet for over 15 minutes to be considered exposed. Had one exposure already this year running labs.

I've had students cleared back while still testing positive. Our "tracers" will clear a patient who says they have GI  issues or  other symptoms to come back the next day without a test or quarantine.

All while our admins have zoom meetings with us while they talk about how they're doing social distancing in their offices.

We should be virtual.
 
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