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(Fox News)   Dominion server crash delays third Georgia recount. In totally unrelated news, Elim Garak has been appointed as White House tailor   (foxnews.com) divider line
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2020-11-30 10:39:32 AM  
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Yes, your orange excellency, I foresee you winning reelection with over 400 electoral votes!
 
2020-11-30 10:59:53 AM  
If Garak was anywhere near the White House, Trump would have choked to death on some ice cream brought to him by a loyal aide who, soon after, died in a car accident.  And said aide was seen last week in the same building as a suspected Russian assassin.
 
2020-11-30 11:20:09 AM  
Face it libs, if they recount these enough, eventually someone will misplace a decimal point and Trump will be dictator for life.
 
2020-11-30 1:49:31 PM  

UberDave: If Garak was anywhere near the White House, Trump would have choked to death on some ice cream brought to him by a loyal aide who, soon after, died in a car accident.  And said aide was seen last week in the same building as a suspected Russian assassin.


Don't know why Garak would have any involvement with that. He's just a simple tailor.
 
2020-11-30 3:44:10 PM  

ArkAngel: UberDave: If Garak was anywhere near the White House, Trump would have choked to death on some ice cream brought to him by a loyal aide who, soon after, died in a car accident.  And said aide was seen last week in the same building as a suspected Russian assassin.

Don't know why Garak would have any involvement with that. He's just a simple tailor.


Oh, he's actually a *good* tailor.
 
2020-11-30 3:57:09 PM  

UberDave: ArkAngel: UberDave: If Garak was anywhere near the White House, Trump would have choked to death on some ice cream brought to him by a loyal aide who, soon after, died in a car accident.  And said aide was seen last week in the same building as a suspected Russian assassin.

Don't know why Garak would have any involvement with that. He's just a simple tailor.

Oh, he's actually a *good* tailor.


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2020-11-30 3:57:11 PM  
Well, this means Trump rules, Biden drools. chunkslap labrodungus
 
2020-11-30 3:59:12 PM  
I wouldn't mind having a root beer with Uncle Joe

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/ It's insidious!
 
2020-11-30 3:59:43 PM  
Some Fulton County official decided to use an under-resourced test server for the production run, against the explicit guidance of Dominion.
Source
 
2020-11-30 4:00:32 PM  
How can anyone consider voting machines "secure"? Obviously there is a ris of server crashes and other issues which can threaten the integirty of any count.

Computer Scientists are not allowed to wear the P.Eng ring for a damned good reason, and that reason has legal implications, about what they can claim and cannot claim. Someone from Comp Sci cannot program and airplane's onboard computer and claim to be as safe as the engineers can claim the physical craft is. Simialrly, programmers cannot claim that their code can sort and cont ballots as well as physical ballots and counters can. Crashes like this one are examples of the difference and the shortfall in security.
 
2020-11-30 4:02:47 PM  

DoctorCal: Some Fulton County official decided to use an under-resourced test server for the production run, against the explicit guidance of Dominion.
Source


FFS.  Georgia has over 9,000 counties, and it's the big important one that screws up?
 
2020-11-30 4:03:02 PM  
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2020-11-30 4:03:28 PM  
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2020-11-30 4:04:06 PM  
We would be so lucky to have Garak help us. Alas we're short of Romulan ambassadors and Starfleet officers with a conscience.
 
2020-11-30 4:06:44 PM  

Parthenogenetic: I wouldn't mind having a root beer with Uncle Joe

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/ It's insidious!


That's my senator right next to him, probably angling for a job at Veterans' Affairs.

/ which she would be quite good at
 
2020-11-30 4:09:34 PM  
Trump crashes and burns for the third time in Georgia.


Have fun in prison Sh*tgibbon.
 
2020-11-30 4:10:45 PM  
why are they doing a third recount?
 
2020-11-30 4:12:18 PM  

UberDave: If Garak was anywhere near the White House, Trump would have choked to death on some ice cream brought to him by a loyal aide who, soon after, died in a car accident.  And said aide was seen last week in the same building as a suspected Russian assassin.


Are we sure Trump isn't just stupid enough to choke on ice cream?

DarkDawg: why are they doing a third recount?


Because Trump is apparently a glutton for punishment.
 
2020-11-30 4:16:49 PM  
How many lost recounts does it take for him to be declared the loser of the 2024 election as well.
 
2020-11-30 4:18:05 PM  
14 recounts, always stopping at 88%  it's like they are trying to trigger something.
 
2020-11-30 4:18:14 PM  
I can live with it.

I can live with it.
 
2020-11-30 4:27:35 PM  
Quark : Let me tell you something about conservatives, nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their districts are gerrymandered and the NFL is on TV. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, Fox News, put their fragile little egos in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same superficially-friendly, not-so-intelligent, "wonderful" people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Proud Boy. You don't believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.

Quark : Well, aren't you gonna say something?

Nog : I feel sorry for Dominion.
 
2020-11-30 4:42:04 PM  

edmo: Face it libs, if they recount these enough, eventually someone will misplace a decimal point and Trump will be dictator for life.


It's only fair to make up for the way he has been treated.
 
2020-11-30 4:44:22 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: How can anyone consider voting machines "secure"? Obviously there is a ris of server crashes and other issues which can threaten the integirty of any count.

Computer Scientists are not allowed to wear the P.Eng ring for a damned good reason, and that reason has legal implications, about what they can claim and cannot claim. Someone from Comp Sci cannot program and airplane's onboard computer and claim to be as safe as the engineers can claim the physical craft is. Simialrly, programmers cannot claim that their code can sort and cont ballots as well as physical ballots and counters can. Crashes like this one are examples of the difference and the shortfall in security.


Much worse than a box of paper ballots stolen or lost in a fire.?
 
2020-11-30 4:52:43 PM  

Parthenogenetic: I wouldn't mind having a root beer with Uncle Joe

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/ It's insidious!


It's Faygo root beer though. Now I'm not sure he knows how magnets work.
 
2020-11-30 4:53:28 PM  

Parthenogenetic: I wouldn't mind having a root beer with Uncle Joe

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/ It's insidious!


Faygo root beer? Biden is Juggalo?!?
 
2020-11-30 4:53:29 PM  

DarkDawg: why are they doing a third recount?


Three shall be the number of the recount, and the number of the recount shall be three. Four shalt thou not recount, neither recount thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out.
 
2020-11-30 4:53:57 PM  
The latest goal post violation from Trumpists is that the vote count is valid, it is just that there are a whole bunch of fraudulent votes for Biden. Once we get rid of those, Trump wins by a landslide!

Of course, how they can be certain that all these "fraudulent ballots" are for Biden and none are for Trump - especially seeing as he did better in the election than anyone predicted, is a mystery they haven't found an excuse to throw at the wall yet to see if it sticks.
 
2020-11-30 4:55:17 PM  

UberDave: If Garak was anywhere near the White House, Trump would have choked to death on some ice cream brought to him by a loyal aide who, soon after, died in a car accident.  And said aide was seen last week in the same building as a suspected Russian assassin.


This.  Elim Garak would never stoop so low as to actually work for trump.
 
2020-11-30 4:55:36 PM  

DoctorCal: Some Fulton County official decided to use an under-resourced test server for the production run, against the explicit guidance of Dominion.
Source


I read that differently

Fox - unreliable Dominion server crashes and delays recount.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/domi​n​ion-server-crash-delays-recount-in-geo​rgias-fulton-county-report?ICID=ref_fa​rk

Election officials in Georgia's Fulton County told a local news outlet Sunday that a newly purchased Dominion Voting Systems mobile server crashed that delayed the state's third recount of the presidential election and technicians from the company "have been dispatched to resolve the issue."

reality - a small Dominion server was set up to do testings of the machines to be used in the 5th district runoff election tomorrow. Some idiot decided to use that server for the state recount and that server crashed as a fail safe because the votes had the wrong timestamps than for the different election it was set up for.

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/​p​olitics/elections/dominion-server-cras​h-in-fulton-county/85-6de0b2fd-6082-48​87-acba-72af44437ea4
 
2020-11-30 5:01:18 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: How can anyone consider voting machines "secure"? Obviously there is a ris of server crashes and other issues which can threaten the integirty of any count.

Computer Scientists are not allowed to wear the P.Eng ring for a damned good reason, and that reason has legal implications, about what they can claim and cannot claim. Someone from Comp Sci cannot program and airplane's onboard computer and claim to be as safe as the engineers can claim the physical craft is. Simialrly, programmers cannot claim that their code can sort and cont ballots as well as physical ballots and counters can. Crashes like this one are examples of the difference and the shortfall in security.


...or the device and system were used improperly from their standard recommendations.

Servers have been crashed on purpose for many years now by way of DDOS attacks and other tidal waves of traffic. They get rebooted and they can start over as if nothing happened... considering the ROOT CAUSE of the crash was discovered and prevented. Otherwise, that server would simply be removed from the process for other, healthy ones to continue.

Servers crashing are not necessarily indicators that security has been breached.
 
2020-11-30 5:08:00 PM  
If you're actually interested in her "plan", you'll need to read through about 12 bills that are still pending in Congress, some detail is on her senate.gov site. The rest of the detail she's willing to share directly is in a .pdf with no clickable links, at least they aren't clickable in the mozilla pdf viewer.
 
2020-11-30 5:10:21 PM  
DS9 Garak the boy who cried Wolf (Improbable Cause)
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2020-11-30 5:17:17 PM  
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2020-11-30 5:29:00 PM  
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2020-11-30 5:41:12 PM  

Nocrash: Bennie Crabtree: How can anyone consider voting machines "secure"? Obviously there is a ris of server crashes and other issues which can threaten the integirty of any count.

Computer Scientists are not allowed to wear the P.Eng ring for a damned good reason, and that reason has legal implications, about what they can claim and cannot claim. Someone from Comp Sci cannot program and airplane's onboard computer and claim to be as safe as the engineers can claim the physical craft is. Simialrly, programmers cannot claim that their code can sort and cont ballots as well as physical ballots and counters can. Crashes like this one are examples of the difference and the shortfall in security.

Much worse than a box of paper ballots stolen or lost in a fire.?


Which has happend fewer times than anything that has hapepned once.
 
2020-11-30 5:48:54 PM  

Hoblit: Bennie Crabtree: How can anyone consider voting machines "secure"? Obviously there is a ris of server crashes and other issues which can threaten the integirty of any count.

Computer Scientists are not allowed to wear the P.Eng ring for a damned good reason, and that reason has legal implications, about what they can claim and cannot claim. Someone from Comp Sci cannot program and airplane's onboard computer and claim to be as safe as the engineers can claim the physical craft is. Simialrly, programmers cannot claim that their code can sort and cont ballots as well as physical ballots and counters can. Crashes like this one are examples of the difference and the shortfall in security.

...or the device and system were used improperly from their standard recommendations.

Servers have been crashed on purpose for many years now by way of DDOS attacks and other tidal waves of traffic. They get rebooted and they can start over as if nothing happened... considering the ROOT CAUSE of the crash was discovered and prevented. Otherwise, that server would simply be removed from the process for other, healthy ones to continue.

Servers crashing are not necessarily indicators that security has been breached.


No, the crash has interrupted the count in this case. And the fact they can be crash and need to be rebooted does not engate that they can be crashed.

Demonstrably, and also in basic logic, a fire in a box of ballots is contained to just that box, and it is much easier to protect ballots from fires than server from attacks. And user error. The idea that the end user can even make the infinite errors (and we see they do in practice), is itself a example of how the tech is not secure.

Demonstrably, paper ballots do not have any of the vulnerabilities that servers and digital technology does to the integrity of the data sotred on them.

And let's go even one further example. I recall how in one election in the USA, a box of ballots was found a week alter in the trunk of someone's car. It was not counted. They immediately called authorities and counted the ballots. In a machine based eletion, the machines are turned off, the data is therefore unobtainable. So the avilabilty of paper data is ensured in ways that voting machines cannot ensure, because in practice they are not turned on and analyzed later for missing or misdirected data (and there are no opportunities to catch analogous errors).

Yes, in every way that has to do with security, paper ballots are secure, and no IT exists that secures voting machines. Furthermore, an error in one machine is representative of errors that occur in multiple machines. There are very clear reasons why voting machiens are antithetical to secure elections, and theya re demonstrated so over and over again.
 
2020-11-30 6:14:40 PM  
As some who is currently watching DS9 for the first time ever, I'm getting a kick out of these dominion references.
 
2020-11-30 6:31:10 PM  

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2020-11-30 7:21:24 PM  

DarkDawg: why are they doing a third recount?


Definition of insanity.
 
2020-11-30 7:22:07 PM  

DarkDawg: why are they doing a third recount?


Even Samwise and Frodo are stuffed.
 
2020-11-30 8:24:55 PM  
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2020-11-30 8:44:50 PM  

DarkDawg: why are they doing a third recount?


So they can throw out more Biden votes with each recount until Trump "wins" again.
 
2020-11-30 9:30:15 PM  
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2020-11-30 10:13:26 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: How can anyone consider voting machines "secure"? Obviously there is a ris of server crashes and other issues which can threaten the integirty of any count.

Computer Scientists are not allowed to wear the P.Eng ring for a damned good reason, and that reason has legal implications, about what they can claim and cannot claim. Someone from Comp Sci cannot program and airplane's onboard computer and claim to be as safe as the engineers can claim the physical craft is. Simialrly, programmers cannot claim that their code can sort and cont ballots as well as physical ballots and counters can. Crashes like this one are examples of the difference and the shortfall in security.


How's your buggy whip stock doing? Must be beating all those stocks in Computer Science companies!
 
2020-12-01 11:55:31 AM  

HairBolus: DoctorCal: Some Fulton County official decided to use an under-resourced test server for the production run, against the explicit guidance of Dominion.
Source

I read that differently

Fox - unreliable Dominion server crashes and delays recount.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/domin​ion-server-crash-delays-recount-in-geo​rgias-fulton-county-report?ICID=ref_fa​rk

Election officials in Georgia's Fulton County told a local news outlet Sunday that a newly purchased Dominion Voting Systems mobile server crashed that delayed the state's third recount of the presidential election and technicians from the company "have been dispatched to resolve the issue."

reality - a small Dominion server was set up to do testings of the machines to be used in the 5th district runoff election tomorrow. Some idiot decided to use that server for the state recount and that server crashed as a fail safe because the votes had the wrong timestamps than for the different election it was set up for.

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/p​olitics/elections/dominion-server-cras​h-in-fulton-county/85-6de0b2fd-6082-48​87-acba-72af44437ea4


Yeah, I read my link more carefully after posting

A security measure flagged the process because timestamps were off, causing the server to crash and ultimately making it impossible to get the database, he said.

I thought about looping back to clarify, but TBH that explanation is vague and peculiar, and sounds like a summary that a manager strung together after meeting with the tech team who investigated the crash and just grabbed a few keywords from the explanation.

Take just the phrase "timestamps were off". My first interpretation, and yours, I think, was that there was a mismatch between some runtime TS and configured date range. It could just as easily mean log-rotate was misconfigured, and being a test box there wasn't a separate mount for logs, so when logging filled the drive, the RDB also had no available disk space and crashed. Just for one example, which to me is more plausible than "the instance was configured to only ingest ballot data on a specific date, and today wasn't that date", because the pipeline actually rejecting data is _less_ likely to "crash" than the pipeline actually accepting, processing, and recording data. Well, unless rejecting posts generates a lot more log entries and fills up the disk - see previous scenario.

I'd love to know more, but I doubt we will ever get additional details.
 
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