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(New Musical Express)   BBC defends its decision to play censored version of Fairytale of New York, those [redacted] those [redacted] those [redacted] [redacted] [redacted] happy Christmas you [redacted]   (nme.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Kirsty MacColl, The Pogues, BBC, Fairytale of New York, Shane MacGowan, censored version of The Pogues, BBC Radio 1, Fairytale Of New York  
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2020-11-30 7:59:24 AM  
Can't offend pearl-clutching Tory's.
 
2020-11-30 9:39:38 AM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Can't offend pearl-clutching Tory's.


Or - and I'm just spitballing here - Auntie Beeb actual reads and occasionally even tries to follow Ofcom regulations.
 
2020-11-30 9:57:48 AM  
I'm going to start my own radio station that plays only songs that people now find lyrically-offensive.

Fairytale of New York
Money for Nothing
Into The Night
Turning Japanese
Johnny, Are You Queer?

That's all I have so far.
 
2020-11-30 9:59:21 AM  

Wellon Dowd: I'm going to start my own radio station that plays only songs that people now find lyrically-offensive.

Fairytale of New York
Money for Nothing
Into The Night
Turning Japanese
Johnny, Are You Queer?

That's all I have so far.


The third verse of the Star Spangled Banner?
 
2020-11-30 10:03:38 AM  

Wellon Dowd: I'm going to start my own radio station that plays only songs that people now find lyrically-offensive.

Fairytale of New York
Money for Nothing
Into The Night
Turning Japanese
Johnny, Are You Queer?

That's all I have so far.


Semi-charmed life by third eye blind.
 
2020-11-30 10:04:40 AM  
Look people, the band themselves recorded an alternate version for radio play.  It's not censorship if the band does something like that of their own volition.
 
2020-11-30 10:07:25 AM  
I had to look that up, because I assumed it was about a movie.
 
2020-11-30 10:12:13 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: I had to look that up, because I assumed it was about a movie.


Nah, just drunk white people shxt :)
 
2020-11-30 10:18:38 AM  
So I had friends over on saturday and a friend's GF asked Alexa to play christmas songs.  We Alexa played my Christmas songs.

It started with White Wine in the Sun and then Fairytale in New York...

My house my tunes cranky lady.
 
2020-11-30 10:19:01 AM  
BBC ain't no cuck.
 
2020-11-30 10:27:58 AM  
The unedited version is readily available, you crybabies.  Stop caring about what other people do.
 
2020-11-30 10:29:05 AM  
I was in Ireland around Christmastime a few years ago, and it was great--they played this track in the stores like it was "Silver Bells" or something.
 
2020-11-30 10:31:35 AM  

ViolentEastCoastCity: Look people, the band themselves recorded an alternate version for radio play.  It's not censorship if the band does something like that of their own volition.


It's not as if The Pogues haven't made their position quite clear recently.

https://twitter.com/poguesofficial/st​a​tus/1329394157354446850?s=20
 
2020-11-30 10:32:48 AM  
Can we maybe have a moratorium on the annual stream of threads about this damn song? My god has it become tedious
 
2020-11-30 10:36:01 AM  

Trocadero: Wellon Dowd: I'm going to start my own radio station that plays only songs that people now find lyrically-offensive.

Fairytale of New York
Money for Nothing
Into The Night
Turning Japanese
Johnny, Are You Queer?

That's all I have so far.

The third verse of the Star Spangled Banner?


Whichever verse of God Save The Queen mentions the Scots.
 
2020-11-30 10:38:20 AM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Trocadero: Wellon Dowd: I'm going to start my own radio station that plays only songs that people now find lyrically-offensive.

Fairytale of New York
Money for Nothing
Into The Night
Turning Japanese
Johnny, Are You Queer?

That's all I have so far.

The third verse of the Star Spangled Banner?

Whichever verse of God Save The Queen mentions the Scots.


I know the Marseillaise is all about killing and blood drenching the fields, but do they single out any specific group that good French citizens are supposed to murder, or is it just a general "bloodlust for freedom!" song? My French is no bueno.
 
2020-11-30 10:47:36 AM  

Mr. Eugenides: ViolentEastCoastCity: Look people, the band themselves recorded an alternate version for radio play.  It's not censorship if the band does something like that of their own volition.

It's not as if The Pogues haven't made their position quite clear recently.

https://twitter.com/poguesofficial/sta​tus/1329394157354446850?s=20


Right?  I mean, go to the source, people!
 
2020-11-30 10:51:15 AM  
Damn, I hate that the BBC used Obama's time machine and forced Kirsty to record this version.
 
2020-11-30 11:03:11 AM  
I'll pull out my Official Member of the LGBTQ Community card here.

The song itself does not offend me.  The characters in the song are garbage, and they're going to use words like that.  It's true to them.

But it seems to me that there do seem to be a lot of straight people who are really butthurt at not getting to hear that word for some reason.  It's like being bothered rappers get to use the N-word in their songs but when you called your co-worker the N-word you got fired.
 
2020-11-30 11:07:38 AM  

jake_lex: I'll pull out my Official Member of the LGBTQ Community card here.

The song itself does not offend me.  The characters in the song are garbage, and they're going to use words like that.  It's true to them.

But it seems to me that there do seem to be a lot of straight people who are really butthurt at not getting to hear that word for some reason.  It's like being bothered rappers get to use the N-word in their songs but when you called your co-worker the N-word you got fired.


because how Kirsty delivers the line is fantastic.
 
2020-11-30 11:16:08 AM  

kryptoknightmare: Can we maybe have a moratorium on the annual stream of threads about this damn song? My god has it become tedious


In this age every Christmas season has to have an X Mas song to fight over.  The past few years have been "Baby It's Cold Outside".  That one seems to have died down.  First there was outrage over it being rapey, then there was outrage about the outrage.  Now, it is on to the next outrage.
 
2020-11-30 11:52:55 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: jake_lex: I'll pull out my Official Member of the LGBTQ Community card here.

The song itself does not offend me.  The characters in the song are garbage, and they're going to use words like that.  It's true to them.

But it seems to me that there do seem to be a lot of straight people who are really butthurt at not getting to hear that word for some reason.  It's like being bothered rappers get to use the N-word in their songs but when you called your co-worker the N-word you got fired.

because how Kirsty delivers the line is fantastic.


But it honestly isn't.

How she delivers the next lines "Happy Christmas your arse, Pray God it's our last" is the important bit, the preceding insults could be anything.
 
2020-11-30 12:10:58 PM  

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: jake_lex: I'll pull out my Official Member of the LGBTQ Community card here.

The song itself does not offend me.  The characters in the song are garbage, and they're going to use words like that.  It's true to them.

But it seems to me that there do seem to be a lot of straight people who are really butthurt at not getting to hear that word for some reason.  It's like being bothered rappers get to use the N-word in their songs but when you called your co-worker the N-word you got fired.

because how Kirsty delivers the line is fantastic.

But it honestly isn't.

How she delivers the next lines "Happy Christmas your arse, Pray God it's our last" is the important bit, the preceding insults could be anything.


it rhymed with maggot...
 
2020-11-30 12:19:13 PM  

Wellon Dowd: I'm going to start my own radio station that plays only songs that people now find lyrically-offensive.

Fairytale of New York
Money for Nothing
Into The Night
Turning Japanese
Johnny, Are You Queer?

That's all I have so far.


Only the Good Die Young
My Sharona
Tonight's the Night (Rod Stewart, not Neil Young)
He Hit Me (And it Felt Like a Kiss)
 
2020-11-30 12:29:58 PM  

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: jake_lex: I'll pull out my Official Member of the LGBTQ Community card here.

The song itself does not offend me.  The characters in the song are garbage, and they're going to use words like that.  It's true to them.

But it seems to me that there do seem to be a lot of straight people who are really butthurt at not getting to hear that word for some reason.  It's like being bothered rappers get to use the N-word in their songs but when you called your co-worker the N-word you got fired.

because how Kirsty delivers the line is fantastic.

But it honestly isn't.

How she delivers the next lines "Happy Christmas your arse, Pray God it's our last" is the important bit, the preceding insults could be anything.


The poster is discussing the delivery, not the content. Her delivery indeed is incredible.
 
2020-11-30 1:19:21 PM  

Mr. Eugenides: ViolentEastCoastCity: Look people, the band themselves recorded an alternate version for radio play.  It's not censorship if the band does something like that of their own volition.

It's not as if The Pogues haven't made their position quite clear recently.

https://twitter.com/poguesofficial/sta​tus/1329394157354446850?s=20


That is hilarious.
 
2020-11-30 1:53:33 PM  

jake_lex: I'll pull out my Official Member of the LGBTQ Community card here.

The song itself does not offend me.  The characters in the song are garbage, and they're going to use words like that.  It's true to them.

But it seems to me that there do seem to be a lot of straight people who are really butthurt at not getting to hear that word for some reason.  It's like being bothered rappers get to use the N-word in their songs but when you called your co-worker the N-word you got fired.


As another member of The Friends of Dorothy, "Fairytale of New York" is my favorite Christmas song. The characters are a couple of drunks in a f*cked-up relationship having a fight on Christmas, so the dialogue fits. 

Pour one out for the late Kirsty MacColl.
 
2020-11-30 3:32:20 PM  
Got to ask yourself if singing along to this ditty in mixed company is worth getting punched in the head.
 
2020-11-30 7:19:15 PM  
Nick Cave says that they should have just banned the song rather than change it.

https://www.theredhandfiles.com/censo​r​ship-fairytale-of-new-york/
 
2020-12-01 2:27:01 AM  
I'm a huge Kirsty MacColl fan so of course this song is special to me.

Having a sanitized version for radio play doesn't bother me a bit. Lots of songs have radio-friendly versions. Sure, the sanitized version loses some of the impact, but it's still a great song. Plus, in late 2020 anyone who wants to hear the uncensored version has options.

I'm much more bothered by radio edits that butcher a song for length, usually leaving out the best part. Misguided Angel by Cowboy Junkies or Sara by Fleetwood Mac are examples.
 
2020-12-01 2:33:30 AM  

BorgiaGinz: As another member of The Friends of Dorothy,..


CSB time. Back in the day there was a guy who wanted to know if I was gay. I guess standing against a wall in a gay bar wasn't enough for him. He asked me "are you a friend of Dorothy?" I had no idea what that meant, and there was a girl on campus named Dorothy who was friends with all my friends. So I sort of shrugged and said "I've been to her house once or twice" and the look on his face... before he walked away and never spoke to me again.
 
2020-12-01 12:21:47 PM  
Now we call all enjoy it

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