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2020-11-30 6:36:09 AM  
19 votes:

Golden Brown Delicious: 2 weeks won't make a difference? Hell, I say 2 YEARS wouldn't matter. The public educational system in the US is a complete joke, especially when that 'edyookayshun' comes at the potential expense of death or permanent (?) disability.

I didn't learn a single goddamned thing in public school that was worth staying there for, except perhaps that human beings are, by and large, idiot garbage, and not worth one's time.


Your personal experience is unfortunate.

At the same time, your assertion is moronic.
 
2020-11-30 4:15:17 AM  
14 votes:
As an NYC parent, I don't get it. There would be two weeks of school left before the holidays. Just do it remote.
 
2020-11-30 6:23:39 AM  
7 votes:
2 weeks won't make a difference? Hell, I say 2 YEARS wouldn't matter. The public educational system in the US is a complete joke, especially when that 'edyookayshun' comes at the potential expense of death or permanent (?) disability.

I didn't learn a single goddamned thing in public school that was worth staying there for, except perhaps that human beings are, by and large, idiot garbage, and not worth one's time.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2020-11-30 5:26:38 AM  
7 votes:
They're opening schools despite Fauci saying open the schools? What happened to defying the experts and going your own way? Isn't this America?
 
2020-11-30 5:26:46 AM  
5 votes:
There's no right answer.
Remote learning on a large scale is a joke even when it works perfectly, and it doesn't work more often than not for most families.
In person learning seemed to be doing well for a while, but it's probably a big factor in this slow creeping surge we've seen since mid October
Instituting a national gap year where we all just agree to say "fark it, we'll take the L, everyone meet back in October. Sorry, everyone born from 2003 to 2015 -  you'll graduate at 19 instead of 18, farking deal with it" seems the best, but completely unrealistic option.

so, you tell me
 
2020-11-30 9:00:55 AM  
4 votes:

orbister: Scientific consensus around the world is that it is fine to open schools except when there is a particularly severe surge in the surrounding community. Fark hates it when President Trump ignores scientific advice.


Farkers are only pro-science when it confirms what they want to believe.
 
2020-11-30 5:23:29 AM  
4 votes:

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: As an NYC parent, I don't get it. There would be two weeks of school left before the holidays.


Exactly.  Two weeks with a reduced population since a lot of folks will just keep their kids at home while the school system can start putting procedures into practice and refine them.  Then when it goes into Holiday break they'll have some time to assess how successful they were based on infections discovered during break.
 
2020-11-30 8:40:50 AM  
3 votes:

jso2897: You gotta love "conservatives".
For decades, they've been autistically screeching for home schooling - and now, they are rabidly opposed to it, because it can serve an actual useful purpose.

Conservatives: "We wanna do thing! We wanna do thing!! We wanna do thing!!!"
Liberals: "Okay - thing is good idea now - do!"
Conservatives: "Oh noes!! Thing bad now!!'
Holy shiat what a bunch of worthless, two faced cocksuckers.


You have misrepresented both sides.  While homeschooling is often pushed by some conservatives (it also has its proponents on the crunchy side who think schools are conformity factories) , their main education push is schools of choice rather than homeschooling.  And liberals aren't pushing homeschooling now (meaning that the student is pulled out of the public school system and taught by a parent), they want remote learning, which is vastly different than homeschooling.
 
2020-11-30 7:43:06 AM  
3 votes:
Scientific consensus around the world is that it is fine to open schools except when there is a particularly severe surge in the surrounding community. Fark hates it when President Trump ignores scientific advice.
 
2020-11-30 6:40:53 AM  
3 votes:

mcsiegs: Golden Brown Delicious: 2 weeks won't make a difference? Hell, I say 2 YEARS wouldn't matter. The public educational system in the US is a complete joke, especially when that 'edyookayshun' comes at the potential expense of death or permanent (?) disability.

I didn't learn a single goddamned thing in public school that was worth staying there for, except perhaps that human beings are, by and large, idiot garbage, and not worth one's time.

Your personal experience is unfortunate.

At the same time, your assertion is moronic.


I've gotta agree with them, though. Learning to read and write was the only thing I needed. The internet taught me the rest...including higher mathematics. I could have gone without the cliquey "do you know who their father is" bullshiat from the teachers. And the judgement and complete lack of compassion/understanding when my home life took a dive into the depressing. Oh look a straight-A student suddenly started failing and skipping school, better expel them so they don't fark up our funding.
 
2020-11-30 8:33:43 AM  
2 votes:
Since everyone including subby didn't bother reading past the headline: Only Pre-K, elementary, and special education schools are opening back up.

My niece's in person classes (for 2nd grade) in NYC are limited to 10 students. Her online classes? 45. A lot of her online curriculum consists of YouTube clips. Her online teacher has zero control over the class and still hasn't figured out Zoom. My niece's reading and writing skills are slipping as a result.

In order to better enable distancing, students from the elementary schools will now go to the bigger intermediate and high school facilities.

So yeah, more in person learning for the students that need it most, an approach recommended by epidemiologists? This is great news.
 
2020-11-30 6:43:01 AM  
2 votes:

CarnySaur: The kids won't learn anything they can't learn on Sesame Street.  The high school kids can watch Euphoria or something.


Seeing my youngest (~2) develop while using an iPad, empirically and subject matter-wise, I wouldn't be surprised if future apps do a better job of teaching kids basic math, reading, grammar, etc. what will be lost is the interaction and discussions. Emotionally stunted people can make good cogs, but bad teams.

/I believe in the middle ground
//best of both worlds
///and I want to be the change I want to see
 
2020-12-01 5:11:34 AM  
1 vote:

GrizzlyPouch: Nana's Vibrator: GrizzlyPouch: Nana's Vibrator: GrizzlyPouch: Nana's Vibrator:

NPR and nature magazine covered schools.  Google is your friend

And anybody who's read fark this year has seen headlines about whatever the holiday and the major spike it'll cause, which hasn't been the case.

Harvard is a better friend.

But thanks, waste of space guy who pretends to hold Republican values but isn't responsible, can't hold a job, and is likely always 5 minutes away from suicide.

Lol, you guys always get so personal when you've got nothing else.

It isn't a game or a sport, there aren't sides or scores. This is real life.

So if you were wrong about something, that's a good thing!  Now you're more educated.  No reason at all to be upset

You thought that was personal?  I just described millions of people.  You're everyone's brother in law.  Or ex-brother in law I should say.  Or an old ex-classmate.

And I don't know why they call it a well-being check.  You guys are always hanging in the closet with an empty bottle nearby.
Word to the wise, though - delete your browsing history first.  A picture of my unemployable everyone else's fault staunch republican ex brother in law's dick is still on the internet, with posts looking for dick.  His wife and kids don't know ... but everyone else does.  And none of us report it to have it taken down.  Because f*ck that guy.

And that's the American left in a nutshell.  Minds full of hatred.  So much so, they'd use the death and suffering of millions during a pandemic.....asa political tool


That's a good interpretation, as if nobody is watching literal efforts at overthrowing government to install an authoritarian regime.

You remind me of an old classmate.  Pulled those nonsense thoughts out of his ass, too.  Posted all over Facebook, watched so much Fox.
He was always telling everyone simultaneously "everything wrong with" minorities while talking about the left being full of hate.   Like you, he watches literal Nazis and KKK members on TV represent him.  Of course back then we had no idea what level of hypocrisy he was capable of.  Yes, he finally saw what he was.  He never admitted it but the proof was all over the railroad tracks.
So when I run into his twin on the internet and out of kindness I offer him the advice of deleting his internet history before he does himself, he thinks that's hate.  No sir.  Delete your tumblr account, too.  Nobody needs to see a writeup of your casual encounters with men at Dunkin Donuts after you're dead.  Especially your fiancèe.  Delete those.
 
2020-11-30 1:24:50 PM  
1 vote:

Smelly Pirate Hooker: We're still pretending in-person schools have nothing to do with the 'rona increasing. That's why.


Scientific evidence from around the world says that schools don't spread COVID-19. What do you have that's better than scientific evidence? Hydroxychloroquine?
 
2020-11-30 9:11:36 AM  
1 vote:

Flashlight: orbister: Scientific consensus around the world is that it is fine to open schools except when there is a particularly severe surge in the surrounding community. Fark hates it when President Trump ignores scientific advice.

Farkers are only pro-science when it confirms what they want to believe.


People.   Not just Farkers.
 
2020-11-30 8:56:52 AM  
1 vote:

orbister: jso2897: You gotta love "conservatives".
For decades, they've been autistically screeching for home schooling - and now, they are rabidly opposed to it, because it can serve an actual useful purpose.

We're using "autistic" as an insult now, are we?


Its the "enlightened" view.
 
2020-11-30 8:06:15 AM  
1 vote:

fuzzybacchus: Our school district reopened 5x a week starting the day after election. While there are cases at the elementary level, it is is not crazy.  It is still a risk.  Coming out of Thanksgiving they are going back to hybrid (half the school home, half in class, alternating by days) because case counts in the area are skyrocketing.

Tbqh, I am shocked at how poorly hybrid seems to be going.

We put our kids in cyber this year.  This is the safest choice.

I think full time is no less risky than hybrid, and it seems much better for students and teachers.  It is consistent.

What we don't have is these amazing weekly tests!! Wow!   That is a game changer for early identification and reducing or preventing community spread through the classroom.   I have zero doubt that there are families who are refusing to test when mild symptoms present.  Kids get sick.  Easy to convince oneself that the sniffles are the common cold.


Hybrid for us was terrible. 2 weeks ago we had to go full virtual, and the 4th graders work dropped by at least half. The hybrid model was 2 self learn days, one meeting day, 2 days in class. They gave him so much just idiotic busy work for those 2 self study days that he was nearly in tears each day. And that's all it was - busy work. Not anything new. Not anything valuable. Just busy. He needs the social interaction of a class and friends, but I don't think he's willing to go back to hybrid with that kind of work load.
 
2020-11-30 7:48:06 AM  
1 vote:

Golden Brown Delicious: 2 weeks won't make a difference? Hell, I say 2 YEARS wouldn't matter. The public educational system in the US is a complete joke, especially when that 'edyookayshun' comes at the potential expense of death or permanent (?) disability.

I didn't learn a single goddamned thing in public school that was worth staying there for, except perhaps that human beings are, by and large, idiot garbage, and not worth one's time.


Now we know DeVos's fark handle.
 
2020-11-30 7:43:32 AM  
1 vote:
The infection rates are growing and are about to be out of control.  If you closed the schools to prevent spread but open now at the worst point the US has seen, well, what was the point of closing in the first place?  Since idiots can't stay out of bars and churches we should just let the kids f*ck sh*t up, too?
It's all so willfully senseless at so many levels, allowing spread of sickness and death appears to be intentional.
 
2020-11-30 7:32:58 AM  
1 vote:

tuxq: mcsiegs: Golden Brown Delicious: 2 weeks won't make a difference? Hell, I say 2 YEARS wouldn't matter. The public educational system in the US is a complete joke, especially when that 'edyookayshun' comes at the potential expense of death or permanent (?) disability.

I didn't learn a single goddamned thing in public school that was worth staying there for, except perhaps that human beings are, by and large, idiot garbage, and not worth one's time.

Your personal experience is unfortunate.

At the same time, your assertion is moronic.

I've gotta agree with them, though. Learning to read and write was the only thing I needed. The internet taught me the rest...including higher mathematics. I could have gone without the cliquey "do you know who their father is" bullshiat from the teachers. And the judgement and complete lack of compassion/understanding when my home life took a dive into the depressing. Oh look a straight-A student suddenly started failing and skipping school, better expel them so they don't fark up our funding.



Same. Except for the part about the internet. The most "hilarious" thing I remember from my public school experience was being hospitalized a week for something that would have killed me 100 years earlier and subsequently getting a form letter sent home from the school about how my excessive absences are going to lead to me being held back because reasons. Weirdly enough I was still in the 99% percentile on most everything in their fatuous standardized tests.
 
2020-11-30 6:32:06 AM  
1 vote:

Resident Muslim: Meh, the spike after thanksgiving should have everyone scared and calling off a lot of in-person stuff.

/caveat: "everyone" with half a brain


The 4:1 R0 is what people don't seem to understand. And it's those 4 people who get it from the initial infected that end up flooding the hospitals. So...4-6 weeks from now, hospitals all around the country that are currently borderline, are all going on diversion or emergency capacity plans. And any area lucky enough to miss out on all the drama will get a second round after Christmas and New Years. Because putting off holidays for a year is just too much effort for most folks.
 
2020-11-30 5:53:01 AM  
1 vote:
Meh, the spike after thanksgiving should have everyone scared and calling off a lot of in-person stuff.

/caveat: "everyone" with half a brain
 
2020-11-30 5:24:50 AM  
1 vote:
And for no obvious reason, beside every school, a 45ft refrigerated trailer filled with empty racks, with large signs on the side saying "Pencils".
 
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