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2020-11-30 5:45:30 AM  
41 votes:

mrwknd: Even without the Electoral votes from Georgia Biden would still win.


It's not even about that anymore. It's about showing fealty to the king.
 
2020-11-30 5:11:34 AM  
36 votes:
So a GOP supporter wants to cast doubt on the voting machines that deep red counties will use to vote for GOP senate candidates in a couple weeks. We are through the looking glass
 
2020-11-30 5:18:27 AM  
34 votes:
So, what it sounds like is that they don't want ANY voting machines used for the upcoming election, which would impose some hardship and bottleneck voting in some counties.

So, on brand. "How can we keep more people from voting?"
 
2020-11-30 5:50:07 AM  
30 votes:
I notice that they're only trying to overturn the Presidential votes.

But people don't just vote for President. They vote for all sorts of down ballot stuff.

The argument they're trying to make is that the ones for Biden are fraudulent, but all the down ballot votes are fine. And they're having trouble convincing any judge of that.
 
2020-11-30 5:46:29 AM  
30 votes:
I'm going to give the GOP some free advice:

If you're trying to win 2 runoff elections next month, maybe it's not a good idea to call elections rigged and fraudulent. It might dissuade your side from voting.
 
2020-11-30 5:59:20 AM  
26 votes:

Ishkur: I notice that they're only trying to overturn the Presidential votes.

But people don't just vote for President. They vote for all sorts of down ballot stuff.

The argument they're trying to make is that the ones for Biden are fraudulent, but all the down ballot votes are fine. And they're having trouble convincing any judge of that.

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2020-11-30 5:56:43 AM  
19 votes:
"Any injunction the court issues would extend only to defendants and those within their control, and plaintiffs have not demonstrated that county election officials are within defendants' control. Defendants cannot serve as a proxy for local election officials against whom the relief should be sought."

40 cases in, and you're still confused on the whole issue of standing and parties in interest?

You really should sue your law school, you morons.
 
2020-11-30 5:42:23 AM  
14 votes:
Even without the Electoral votes from Georgia Biden would still win.
 
2020-11-30 6:08:51 AM  
13 votes:

hardinparamedic: mrwknd: Even without the Electoral votes from Georgia Biden would still win.

It's not even about that anymore. It's about showing fealty to the king.


It's also about putting more doubt into the entire process. Always remember that Putin's endgame is to destroy America.
 
2020-11-30 6:59:53 AM  
12 votes:
"Look, when a voter votes on a Dominion machine, they fill out a ballot on a touch screen," Steel said. "They are given a printed copy which they then give to a local election official for safekeeping. If any electronic interference had taken place, the tally reported electronically would not match the printed ballots, and in every case where we've looked at - in Georgia, all across the country - the printed ballot, the gold standard in election security, has matched the electronic tally."

Contrast that with Walter O'Dell, President of Diebold in November of 2003...''I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year,''
 
2020-11-30 6:50:07 AM  
12 votes:

vernonFL: I'm going to give the GOP some free advice:

If you're trying to win 2 runoff elections next month, maybe it's not a good idea to call elections rigged and fraudulent. It might dissuade your side from voting.


tries to shush vernonFL*

That's kind of already happening: https://mobile.twitter.com​/rorycooper/​status/1332716262670131201

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2020-11-30 5:35:35 AM  
11 votes:

hubiestubert: So, what it sounds like is that they don't want ANY voting machines used for the upcoming election, which would impose some hardship and bottleneck voting in some counties.

So, on brand. "How can we keep more people from voting?"


And yet they get so pissed when a heap of votes from one place/system results in a spike (Dems voted by mail, GOP didn't, over night when the mail in votes got counted, a sudden increase of 100k for the Dems is not unexpected, let alone proof of a crime.)
 
2020-11-30 6:20:45 AM  
10 votes:
Georgia already has a history of wiping servers during election lawsuits. The only difference is last time it benefited the Republicans. Now they're suddenly concerned? (Yes, yes, they're hypocrites. I know.) https://apnews.com/article/877​ee1015f1​c43f1965f63538b035d3f
 
2020-11-30 6:20:11 AM  
10 votes:
This is a farce. Lin Wood filed the suit against Dominion, that the  voting machines not be wiped, so that the machines can be independently audited. Not a horrible idea...... Dominion issues their response, "Ok judge, we won't wipe our machines, um you do know that the counties of Georgia each own the machines and we have no legal sway over those, the ones that hold the votes?" So the judge reverses the temporary injunction.

WTAF, who owns the machine is not a mystery, so Lin Wood is simply grandstanding, trying to generate buzz and angst among the maga base, "See the system is rigged, derpa, derpa."

/ Or maybe mr. Woods really is that farking stoopid.
 
2020-11-30 7:37:52 AM  
8 votes:
>Texas rejected the system due to its vulnerability to undetected manipulation.

Wait.., you mean Texas rejected the system due to its resistance to undetected manipulation, is what you mean.
 
2020-11-30 6:15:46 AM  
8 votes:

Ishkur: I notice that they're only trying to overturn the Presidential votes.

But people don't just vote for President. They vote for all sorts of down ballot stuff.

The argument they're trying to make is that the ones for Biden are fraudulent, but all the down ballot votes are fine. And they're having trouble convincing any judge of that.


It's 10 years of living in a bubble catching up to them. I know people in my real life who are absolutely incredulous about the election. They don't know aaaaaaanyone who voted for Biden! None of their facebook friends did! None of the people on their Twitter did! I mean, sure a few of "those" people in the cities probably did just for free stuff, but most 'mericans would never vote for a Demonrat!

My theory before the 2016 election was that the silent majority would come out big for Clinton since they were actually moderates who are sick of arguing with Trump supporters online and just shut up about politics and decided to let their voting do the talking. I was off by 4 years.
 
2020-11-30 7:18:24 AM  
7 votes:
I'd prefer something like how Mussolini met his end, but I wouldn't insist.
 
2020-11-30 7:03:30 AM  
7 votes:

Garza and the Supermutants: "Look, when a voter votes on a Dominion machine, they fill out a ballot on a touch screen," Steel said. "They are given a printed copy which they then give to a local election official for safekeeping. If any electronic interference had taken place, the tally reported electronically would not match the printed ballots, and in every case where we've looked at - in Georgia, all across the country - the printed ballot, the gold standard in election security, has matched the electronic tally."

Contrast that with Walter O'Dell, President of Diebold in November of 2003...''I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year,''


Well sure, and clearly we haven't forgotten, which is why they changed their name and don't say that part out loud any more.
 
2020-11-30 8:17:44 AM  
6 votes:

Truck Fump: Now, here we are, and for some reason, the R's don't want EVMs any more. I don't blame them, paper ballots is the way to go. It's just funny (ha, ha) to see them do a 180 on this.


You made the mistake of assuming that the GOP stands for anything other than protecting the rich and staying in power.
 
2020-11-30 7:53:49 AM  
6 votes:

hubiestubert: So, what it sounds like is that they don't want ANY voting machines used for the upcoming election, which would impose some hardship and bottleneck voting in some counties.

So, on brand. "How can we keep more people from voting?"


I remember the "Help America Vote Act" from W's presidency. It was all about getting fast, accurate (and hackable) electronic voting machines to replace those antiquated paper ballots. Seems to me, it was the R's who were pushing that pretty hard (to increase profits for Diebold & friends).

Now, here we are, and for some reason, the R's don't want EVMs any more. I don't blame them, paper ballots is the way to go. It's just funny (ha, ha) to see them do a 180 on this. They've discovered voter intimidation works a lot better to keep "those people" from voting.  But, not *quite* well enough...

We need federal standards for elections. Also, time for Voting Rights Act II. Bring back supervision of those states where shenanigans occurred. Texas, we're looking at you...
 
2020-11-30 6:35:42 AM  
6 votes:

vernonFL: I'm going to give the GOP some free advice:

If you're trying to win 2 runoff elections next month, maybe it's not a good idea to call elections rigged and fraudulent. It might dissuade your side from voting.


Shhhhh.  I am still posting "Write in Trump" when ever I get the chance.
 
2020-11-30 8:41:13 AM  
5 votes:

havocmike: Ishkur: I notice that they're only trying to overturn the Presidential votes.

But people don't just vote for President. They vote for all sorts of down ballot stuff.

The argument they're trying to make is that the ones for Biden are fraudulent, but all the down ballot votes are fine. And they're having trouble convincing any judge of that.

It's 10 years of living in a bubble catching up to them. I know people in my real life who are absolutely incredulous about the election. They don't know aaaaaaanyone who voted for Biden! None of their facebook friends did! None of the people on their Twitter did! I mean, sure a few of "those" people in the cities probably did just for free stuff, but most 'mericans would never vote for a Demonrat!

My theory before the 2016 election was that the silent majority would come out big for Clinton since they were actually moderates who are sick of arguing with Trump supporters online and just shut up about politics and decided to let their voting do the talking. I was off by 4 years.


Hell, *I'M* incredulous about the election results too.   You can perform THAT incompetently as a President and STILL get 72 MILLION votes? Have we tryly reached the point where competence and performance doesn't even matter a little anymore?

Part of me feels like the reason Trump is SO angry is because he KNEW the elections WERE going to be tampered with, but whoever did the tampering didn't tamper *enough* and we got the result we did.   You'll notice how tepid McConnell has been about looking hard at this election
 
2020-11-30 6:32:22 AM  
5 votes:

kling_klang_bed: Cubansaltyballs: This is called MDE*

*mushroom dick energy

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I have had a mushroom trip like that.

Set and setting people, set and setting. Do not do psychedelics just after your break up with you misses (bad set,) also do not do them is a strange place you do not feel at home at (bad setting.)
 
2020-11-30 5:37:17 AM  
5 votes:

Cubansaltyballs: This is called MDE*

*mushroom dick energy


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2020-11-30 7:42:24 AM  
4 votes:

UncleDirtNap: Wouldn't that code on the machines be considered intellectual property?  I would think Dominion would be able to counter sue to protect that.


Yes, which is a big reason electronic voting can't be trusted. Any voting machine software should be open source.

\of course, you then run into the problem of trusting that the code running on the machine is actually the code you looked at.
 
2020-11-30 8:05:05 AM  
3 votes:
So - both the presiding judge and the lead attorney both seem unaware that the USA General Election is not an election, but over 3,000 individual elections, all supervised by a local county commissioner - of course those results are their property, and are for them to decide if they need to preserve the database after 2 recounts and full certification. That's why claims of "massive, widespread, co-ordinated fraud!!!" by anyone is viewed with immense skepticism, bordering on massive incredulity.

Idk if Lin and the judge are just that casually uninformed, or whether they tried to pull a fast one - and got busted by the paralegal skimming the decision for his boss, but...
 
2020-11-30 7:05:10 AM  
3 votes:
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mrwknd: Even without the Electoral votes from Georgia Biden would still win.


It's not even about that anymore. It's about showing fealty to the king.


Then this seems appropriate for terrible Kings,

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2020-11-30 6:50:22 AM  
3 votes:

FlashHarry: Fun fact: L. Lin Wood is responsible for the dumbest tweet of all time.

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'Why does fire burn my hand when I stick my hand in the fire?  I don't hear about Democrats burning their hands!'
 
2020-11-30 6:37:00 AM  
3 votes:
Can't wait for Cheetolini to finally turn on  his lawyers (and you know that's coming).
 
2020-11-30 6:36:20 AM  
3 votes:

vernonFL: I'm going to give the GOP some free advice:

If you're trying to win 2 runoff elections next month, maybe it's not a good idea to call elections rigged and fraudulent. It might dissuade your side from voting.


Like what happened with the whole mail-in voting thing.
 
2020-11-30 6:21:45 AM  
3 votes:

Xzano: This is a farce. Lin Wood filed the suit against Dominion, that the  voting machines not be wiped, so that the machines can be independently audited. Not a horrible idea...... Dominion issues their response, "Ok judge, we won't wipe our machines, um you do know that the counties of Georgia each own the machines and we have no legal sway over those, the ones that hold the votes?" So the judge reverses the temporary injunction.

WTAF, who owns the machine is not a mystery, so Lin Wood is simply grandstanding, trying to generate buzz and angst among the maga base, "See the system is rigged, derpa, derpa."

/ Or maybe mr. Woods really is that farking stoopid.


Possibly performative douchebaggery, but it looks the same.
 
2020-11-30 5:51:02 AM  
3 votes:
Wouldn't that code on the machines be considered intellectual property?  I would think Dominion would be able to counter sue to protect that.
 
2020-11-30 9:31:56 AM  
2 votes:

havocmike: Ishkur: I notice that they're only trying to overturn the Presidential votes.

But people don't just vote for President. They vote for all sorts of down ballot stuff.

The argument they're trying to make is that the ones for Biden are fraudulent, but all the down ballot votes are fine. And they're having trouble convincing any judge of that.

It's 10 years of living in a bubble catching up to them.


Another way of saying this is that if something is outside their personal experience (especially if it contradicts what is in their personal bubble) they don't believe it is real, or even a valid way of thinking.

I always think of Piaget's stages of childhood development here, where very small children assume that everyone they meet intimately knows and accepts the same kind of reality that they themselves experience, and become extremely puzzled when they find that other people think and experience life differently..

Which to me shows that people determined to live in such a limited way have never really become responsible or rational adults.
 
2020-11-30 6:53:41 AM  
2 votes:

FlashHarry: Fun fact: L. Lin Wood is responsible for the dumbest tweet of all time.

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2020-11-30 6:47:21 AM  
2 votes:
Fun fact: L. Lin Wood is responsible for the dumbest tweet of all time.

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2020-11-30 6:28:10 AM  
2 votes:
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2020-11-30 6:19:47 AM  
2 votes:

Ishkur: I notice that they're only trying to overturn the Presidential votes.

But people don't just vote for President. They vote for all sorts of down ballot stuff.

The argument they're trying to make is that the ones for Biden are fraudulent, but all the down ballot votes are fine. And they're having trouble convincing any judge of that.


Like any good socialist, Hugo Chavez doesn't much care about down ballot races.
 
2020-11-30 11:16:39 AM  
1 vote:

Hoblit: mrwknd: Even without the Electoral votes from Georgia Biden would still win.

Which is why Trump representatives are organizing visits with Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Arizona legislators too.


Trump almost certainly believes he did not lose the election and can remain president, his ego is big enough to not accept that he can lose. He also absolutely knows he needs to remain president to remain safe from prosecution, creditors, and organized crime organizations.

The rest of the GOP just wants any victory to point to showing that Biden's presidency is illegitimate. If they got Georgia's election results overturned somehow they would say "See what happened in Georgia? How can you believe what happened elsewhere?"
 
2020-11-30 8:45:52 AM  
1 vote:
So now we're going to be hearing about "DA MASHEENS WUR WYPD" conspiracy for the next four years?

Great.  Just going to file that in the same place Hillary's emails and Hunter's laptop are.
 
2020-11-30 7:53:29 AM  
1 vote:

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2020-11-30 7:45:36 AM  
1 vote:

sirrerun: Ishkur: I notice that they're only trying to overturn the Presidential votes.

But people don't just vote for President. They vote for all sorts of down ballot stuff.

The argument they're trying to make is that the ones for Biden are fraudulent, but all the down ballot votes are fine. And they're having trouble convincing any judge of that.

Like any good socialist, Hugo Chavez doesn't much care about down ballot races.


Goddamn Republicans are dumb. They think a dead guy from Venezuela is hacking the election.
 
2020-11-30 7:24:05 AM  
1 vote:

qorkfiend: 1funguy: Would be really cool if they could rig the Georgia election totals so the ballot count for democrats turned out to 80M and the republicans got 72M.

Would
Be
Cool

I think even they might notice that one


But their collective head explosions and body drops would make such a loud pop-thud sound...

And the liberals smiled just a little bit that day...
 
2020-11-30 6:34:27 AM  
1 vote:
Would be really cool if they could rig the Georgia election totals so the ballot count for democrats turned out to 80M and the republicans got 72M.

Would
Be
Cool
 
2020-11-30 5:58:19 AM  
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