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2020-11-30 12:23:52 AM  
Here in NZ, it's termed the 'Baptist vote'. I guess in US it's the fundagelicals who think legalising will open floodgates.
 
2020-11-30 12:32:17 AM  
'Cause we all know how much boomers hate smoking pot, right?
 
2020-11-30 12:35:46 AM  
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2020-11-30 12:41:34 AM  
Republicans?  *reads*  Yep, Republicans.

Hey, Democrats--you see how Republican voters all over the country are voting for legal pot in droves, but Republican officials are still against it?  Do you see how stupid and out-of-touch that looks?

Maybe don't be like that.
 
2020-11-30 12:44:04 AM  
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2020-11-30 12:46:53 AM  
There are enough states to pass a constitutional convention.  That would annoy the heck out of congress.
 
2020-11-30 12:47:14 AM  

austerity101: Republicans?  *reads*  Yep, Republicans.

Hey, Democrats--you see how Republican voters all over the country are voting for legal pot in droves, but Republican officials are still against it?  Do you see how stupid and out-of-touch that looks?

Maybe don't be like that.


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2020-11-30 12:48:11 AM  
Didn't BO sign an EO that said the feds wouldn't pursue charges in states where it was legal, or something to that effect? I don't remember Dotard ever doing or saying anything about that. Can Biden take it further?

Robert Reich was on TV this morning talking about how much Biden can do with the pen, and it was a  lot more than I expected...however since it was Reich he was just talking about economic policies.

/can we get Reich in this admin?
 
2020-11-30 12:49:53 AM  
Congress folks still believe this shiat
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2020-11-30 12:52:14 AM  

OhioUGrad: Didn't BO sign an EO that said the feds wouldn't pursue charges in states where it was legal, or something to that effect? I don't remember Dotard ever doing or saying anything about that. Can Biden take it further?

Robert Reich was on TV this morning talking about how much Biden can do with the pen, and it was a  lot more than I expected...however since it was Reich he was just talking about economic policies.

/can we get Reich in this admin?


Reich is progressive and has always good ideas, he should be a close adviser of Biden. But it wont be. Biden is mostly pro-status quo, which is not what the US needs now.

Biden needs to find the Ted Roosevelt within himself and break the big rich motherfarkers and their puppets in congress screwing this country.
 
2020-11-30 12:53:14 AM  

DON.MAC: There are enough states to pass a constitutional convention.  That would annoy the heck out of congress.


Oh boy, I sure want my civil rights to be wiped out, let's do that!

/ not
 
2020-11-30 12:53:33 AM  

lolmao500: OhioUGrad: Didn't BO sign an EO that said the feds wouldn't pursue charges in states where it was legal, or something to that effect? I don't remember Dotard ever doing or saying anything about that. Can Biden take it further?

Robert Reich was on TV this morning talking about how much Biden can do with the pen, and it was a  lot more than I expected...however since it was Reich he was just talking about economic policies.

/can we get Reich in this admin?

Reich is progressive and has always good ideas, he should be a close adviser of Biden. But it wont be. Biden is mostly pro-status quo, which is not what the US needs now.

Biden needs to find the Ted Roosevelt within himself and break the big rich motherfarkers and their puppets in congress screwing this country.


From your lips to Odin's ears.
 
2020-11-30 12:59:14 AM  
Everywhere but Live Free or Die NH.  Somehow or other we managed to fark up and keep our governor, "I'm a Trump Guy Through-and-Through" Sununu.

I think upwards of 68% of our population supports legalization.  It keeps making it through our state house, but it's clear he's going to veto it, so like...why bother passing it maaaaahhhn.

Dicks everywhere.
 
2020-11-30 1:07:37 AM  
2020: How it started...

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How it's going...

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2020-11-30 1:09:19 AM  
It's weird, it doesn't seem to matter if you are a Republican or a democrat.  Everyone over 70 in congress, despite party, seems to want to keep it illegal, and everyone under 50 seems to want to legalize it, and since the average age is Boomer, it isn't happening.
 
2020-11-30 1:10:55 AM  

winedrinkingman: It's weird, it doesn't seem to matter if you are a Republican or a democrat.  Everyone over 70 in congress, despite party, seems to want to keep it illegal, and everyone under 50 seems to want to legalize it, and since the average age is Boomer, it isn't happening.


In this case it's largely the Senate, which has considerably fewer young people in it than the House.  You have to wonder what Republican senators are making money off of that they're so opposed.
 
2020-11-30 1:15:33 AM  

lolmao500: Congress folks still believe this shiat
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Don't threaten me with a good time.
 
2020-11-30 1:15:38 AM  

xrayspx: Everywhere but Live Free or Die NH.  Somehow or other we managed to fark up and keep our governor, "I'm a Trump Guy Through-and-Through" Sununu.

I think upwards of 68% of our population supports legalization.  It keeps making it through our state house, but it's clear he's going to veto it, so like...why bother passing it maaaaahhhn.

Dicks everywhere.


Somehow we managed to legalize in Arizona this time. Like, it'll be sold like alcohol legal. And it doesn't seem like there's pushback by state legislature.

So, here's hoping for us and everybody in other states without legal weed.

I don't even enjoy being awake and high, but it's a great sleep inducer for someone with chronic insomnia like me.
 
2020-11-30 1:20:08 AM  

austerity101: winedrinkingman: It's weird, it doesn't seem to matter if you are a Republican or a democrat.  Everyone over 70 in congress, despite party, seems to want to keep it illegal, and everyone under 50 seems to want to legalize it, and since the average age is Boomer, it isn't happening.

In this case it's largely the Senate, which has considerably fewer young people in it than the House.  You have to wonder what Republican senators are making money off of that they're so opposed.


For-profit prisons, big pharma, and booze.
 
2020-11-30 1:21:18 AM  
Australia has been suffering under too many conservatives governments and we are going backwards on legalisation.

On Jan 1 the (have to import from NZ or UK) nicotine I use in my vape is going to become illegal to import (already illegal to sell.)  So I just ordered 1 litre of concentrated nicotine juice from NZ for less that $80, enough to last me well over four years.  Nicotine juice can seriously kill you, pot not so much.  But the thing to remember is it is the long haired, left wing, hippy dole bludgers who smoke pot and we hate them regardless of any facts, so we should make the pot laws even more serious than they already are.

In one state in Australia (Queensland, our Florida) it is a criminal offense to have nicotine for your vapes (they check people at the airport.)  Thankfully the nicotine test is very expensive so Queensland vapers tend to get away with it, except at airports.
 
2020-11-30 1:23:17 AM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: austerity101: winedrinkingman: It's weird, it doesn't seem to matter if you are a Republican or a democrat.  Everyone over 70 in congress, despite party, seems to want to keep it illegal, and everyone under 50 seems to want to legalize it, and since the average age is Boomer, it isn't happening.

In this case it's largely the Senate, which has considerably fewer young people in it than the House.  You have to wonder what Republican senators are making money off of that they're so opposed.

For-profit prisons, big pharma, and booze.


Yeah lots of people forget how much lobbying the alcohol industry does to try and keep pot illegal.
 
2020-11-30 1:23:23 AM  

austerity101: winedrinkingman: It's weird, it doesn't seem to matter if you are a Republican or a democrat.  Everyone over 70 in congress, despite party, seems to want to keep it illegal, and everyone under 50 seems to want to legalize it, and since the average age is Boomer, it isn't happening.

In this case it's largely the Senate, which has considerably fewer young people in it than the House.  You have to wonder what Republican senators are making money off of that they're so opposed.


For-profit prisons
 
2020-11-30 1:25:48 AM  
Marijuana, according to the DEA, consists of all of the plant & substances therein.  Mitch's Hemp Happy farm bill threw a wrench in the DEA's system.  All of a sudden the DEA is out trying to contract for rapid road side testing for what substance? D9THC.  Yes, <.3% THC & the plant is hemp, >.3 THC and the plant is Marijuana  (DEA had never before had to make that distinction).

The DEA uses Dronabinol as synonymous with Marijuana.  Dronabinol is the synthetic analog of D9THC (primary intoxicant in marijuana).  Dronabinol  was approved by FDA/DEA as a Schedule 2 med in 1985.  In 1999 the med was dropped to a Schedule three med (doc can write for 5 refills at a time).

Dronabinol is effective for neuralgia.  Good luck getting a doc to write for it, or insurance pay for it (90 10mg gel caps? $5389.00).  However, it helps having a board cert. internist/rheumatologist to write one's insurance provider ($9.00 co-pay). Have been on the med since '15 and have been able to cut way back on the neurontin (nasty side effects at clinically effective level of dosing).  No real obvious effects to note, other than being able to get things done without having to consider how to move, beforehand.

Biden campaign listed their dropping marijuana to Schedule 2.  However, the ONLY substance of concern for drug testing, etc. remains D9THC.  Whether produced by the plant (phyto-chemically derived Dronabinol), or in a manufacturing facility (synthetically produced Dronabinol), it would seem to behoove the entirety of the Federal Gov. to go ahead and decriminalize immediately (just as Nixon's own Commission recommended in 1972).

/back to getting the Castor/Deadly Nightshade seeds ready for planting in the Spring
//stuff that has yet to kill anyone, those seeds?  Feds need to end this State's Rights BS and deschedule Federally (all those state laws? Quasi-legality).  Cops can' t touch this patient - Federally Covered (perfectly legal THC)
 
2020-11-30 1:33:11 AM  

Crazy Lee: Biden campaign listed their dropping marijuana to Schedule 2. However, the ONLY substance of concern for drug testing, etc. remains D9THC. Whether produced by the plant (phyto-chemically derived Dronabinol), or in a manufacturing facility (synthetically produced Dronabinol), it would seem to behoove the entirety of the Federal Gov. to go ahead and decriminalize immediately (just as Nixon's own Commission recommended in 1972).


But just like back then, how are we going to stop those immigrants and colored (spelt it wrong just for context sake ;) people from having fun?  How are we going to be able keep them under the heel of law enforcement if we cannot use "I smell marijuana" as an excuse to search their cars and as an excuse to search them on the street?

"Want someone thing of the private prisons?" (the bail bondsman, the public prosecutors and defenders, the poor cops not being able to steal people's assets?)
 
2020-11-30 1:37:55 AM  

lolmao500: Congress folks still believe this shiat
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Weird

Orgies, it says.

I can't even *imagine* what twisted implications they might have been dreaming up.

I mean I could try, but I'm so farking beat.

And I don't want weirdnightmares.
 
2020-11-30 1:39:52 AM  

winedrinkingman: It's weird, it doesn't seem to matter if you are a Republican or a democrat.  Everyone over 70 in congress, despite party, seems to want to keep it illegal, and everyone under 50 seems to want to legalize it, and since the average age is Boomer, it isn't happening.


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2020-11-30 1:45:56 AM  

Langdon_777: "Wont someone think of the private prisons?" (the bail bondsman, the public prosecutors and defenders, the poor cops not being able to steal people's assets?)


Hmm I am more tipsy that I thought.
 
2020-11-30 1:48:46 AM  
Weed is like, just one of many, and frankly the least important issue where the American people overwhelmingly want our leaders to act on something, but they won't.

fark man, between elected leaders just shunting our desires for a better environment, healthcare, and weed, I'm starting to think that we skills abandon any pretense that the government is here for us.
 
2020-11-30 2:11:19 AM  

Langdon_777: Crazy Lee: Biden campaign listed their dropping marijuana to Schedule 2. However, the ONLY substance of concern for drug testing, etc. remains D9THC. Whether produced by the plant (phyto-chemically derived Dronabinol), or in a manufacturing facility (synthetically produced Dronabinol), it would seem to behoove the entirety of the Federal Gov. to go ahead and decriminalize immediately (just as Nixon's own Commission recommended in 1972).

But just like back then, how are we going to stop those immigrants and colored (spelt it wrong just for context sake ;) people from having fun?  How are we going to be able keep them under the heel of law enforcement if we cannot use "I smell marijuana" as an excuse to search their cars and as an excuse to search them on the street?

"Want someone thing of the private prisons?" (the bail bondsman, the public prosecutors and defenders, the poor cops not being able to steal people's assets?)


The real hx behind Cannabis/Marijuana becoming illegal had more to do with Hoover at the newly minted FBI, and the former head of the alcohol prohibition agency (having gone defunct) H. Anslinger, who'd been moved in to head the rather moribund Federal Bureau Of Narcotics (minorities using Heroin/Coke - who cared, really?  Long as those white girls weren't being white slaved!  Then let the "colored's indulge in their animalistic filth), vying for tax dollars for their respective agencies.

Think of it, used by questionables, grows nearly anywhere, makes for great newreels/vid when big acreage is found/chopped/piled and burned!  A pyre fit for sinners!   Anslinger got his money and built what would become the DEA on a sea of keosened hemp (he cut down very little cultivated material).

What most folks out in rural areas forget is that birds love the hemp seed and, thus, are "spreaders", pooping seeds onto the back 40 and in a few years the stuff will have reseeded into a patch and, well, someone might just call some 1-800-BAD-WEED line and turn in the judge/cop/councilman/etc. on whose property the stuff is growing.

Now, if that "wild" stuff happens to be found planted in a straight line - well, likely only a "jail bird" would "broadcast" such a seeding...  Seed is much easier to acquire (hemp in particular) and setting up elected/appointed officials with potential loss of property?  Not just for the birds, Moscow Mitch.
 
2020-11-30 2:18:02 AM  

Crazy Lee: Langdon_777: Crazy Lee: Biden campaign listed their dropping marijuana to Schedule 2. However, the ONLY substance of concern for drug testing, etc. remains D9THC. Whether produced by the plant (phyto-chemically derived Dronabinol), or in a manufacturing facility (synthetically produced Dronabinol), it would seem to behoove the entirety of the Federal Gov. to go ahead and decriminalize immediately (just as Nixon's own Commission recommended in 1972).

But just like back then, how are we going to stop those immigrants and colored (spelt it wrong just for context sake ;) people from having fun?  How are we going to be able keep them under the heel of law enforcement if we cannot use "I smell marijuana" as an excuse to search their cars and as an excuse to search them on the street?

"Want someone thing of the private prisons?" (the bail bondsman, the public prosecutors and defenders, the poor cops not being able to steal people's assets?)

The real hx behind Cannabis/Marijuana becoming illegal had more to do with Hoover at the newly minted FBI, and the former head of the alcohol prohibition agency (having gone defunct) H. Anslinger, who'd been moved in to head the rather moribund Federal Bureau Of Narcotics (minorities using Heroin/Coke - who cared, really?  Long as those white girls weren't being white slaved!  Then let the "colored's indulge in their animalistic filth), vying for tax dollars for their respective agencies.

Think of it, used by questionables, grows nearly anywhere, makes for great newreels/vid when big acreage is found/chopped/piled and burned!  A pyre fit for sinners!   Anslinger got his money and built what would become the DEA on a sea of keosened hemp (he cut down very little cultivated material).

What most folks out in rural areas forget is that birds love the hemp seed and, thus, are "spreaders", pooping seeds onto the back 40 and in a few years the stuff will have reseeded into a patch and, well, someone might just call some 1-800-BAD-WEED lin ...


Oh I hate Anslinger.  That little dirty c*nt made pot illegal throught the whole world.  Not because it was bad, but because ... he was a racist working for vested interests.
 
2020-11-30 2:54:27 AM  

DON.MAC: There are enough states to pass a constitutional convention.  That would annoy the heck out of congress.


You do not want a constitutional convention.

Among other things, they will clear up that little misunderstanding that the first amendment was only meant to protect the free exercise of various denominations of Christianity, not different religions entirely.
 
2020-11-30 2:55:15 AM  
Is Congress needed to change how marijuana is scheduled?
 
2020-11-30 2:56:52 AM  

OhioUGrad: Didn't BO sign an EO that said the feds wouldn't pursue charges in states where it was legal, or something to that effect? I don't remember Dotard ever doing or saying anything about that. Can Biden take it further?

Robert Reich was on TV this morning talking about how much Biden can do with the pen, and it was a  lot more than I expected...however since it was Reich he was just talking about economic policies.

/can we get Reich in this admin?


It wasn't an executive order. They just decided to stop making a Federal case of it. Twumpy's alleged DOJ reversed that position almost instantaneously.

And no, not really. Until we - somehow - untangle ourselves from the UN conventions we forced upon the world, the Federal government is in a cleft stick of our own cutting. We are obligated by treaty to pursue drug users and drug traffickers alike with all the harsh penalties an authoritarian government can muster. The thing is a juggernaut, so massive it is actually a little hard to see even the outlines of the problem. We can't even get the pigs to stop murdering citizens without triggering months of cop riot. Untangling civil forfeiture? Private prisons? The utility of weed enforcement for control over Black and Brown populations? The helpful doctrine of 'parallel construction'? This shiat is not going away anytime soon. If ever.

Our best hope in the nearer term is a return to the policy of  🤷  while the states do what the states do.
 
2020-11-30 3:02:33 AM  

austerity101: In this case it's largely the Senate, which has considerably fewer young people in it than the House.  You have to wonder what Republican senators are making money off of that they're so opposed.


Private prisons
 
2020-11-30 3:02:47 AM  

mjjt: Here in NZ, it's termed the 'Baptist vote'. I guess in US it's the fundagelicals who think legalising will open floodgates.


Actually, in America, it's the politicians in the pockets of Big Pharma who are constantly standing against full legalization. (ex. Joe Biden)
 
2020-11-30 3:05:46 AM  

austerity101: winedrinkingman: It's weird, it doesn't seem to matter if you are a Republican or a democrat.  Everyone over 70 in congress, despite party, seems to want to keep it illegal, and everyone under 50 seems to want to legalize it, and since the average age is Boomer, it isn't happening.

In this case it's largely the Senate, which has considerably fewer young people in it than the House.  You have to wonder what Republican senators are making money off of that they're so opposed.


This isn't a party thing.

Democrats are also opposed.

Including Joe Biden.
 
2020-11-30 3:08:50 AM  

Crazy Lee: Marijuana, according to the DEA, consists of all of the plant & substances therein.  Mitch's Hemp Happy farm bill threw a wrench in the DEA's system.  All of a sudden the DEA is out trying to contract for rapid road side testing for what substance? D9THC.  Yes, <.3% THC & the plant is hemp, >.3 THC and the plant is Marijuana  (DEA had never before had to make that distinction).


This is the kind of equipment needed to determine exactly how much D9 is in cannabis. A roadside test isn't happening.

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2020-11-30 3:13:08 AM  

Space Banana Physicist: We are obligated by treaty to pursue drug users and drug traffickers alike with all the harsh penalties an authoritarian government can muster.


This is not as cut and dried as you seem to believe. For example, Canada is a signatory, and no action has been taken against them for abrogating the single convention.

Also, it's not as though we haven't broken lots of other treaties.
 
2020-11-30 3:39:46 AM  

minorshan: xrayspx: Everywhere but Live Free or Die NH.  Somehow or other we managed to fark up and keep our governor, "I'm a Trump Guy Through-and-Through" Sununu.

I think upwards of 68% of our population supports legalization.  It keeps making it through our state house, but it's clear he's going to veto it, so like...why bother passing it maaaaahhhn.

Dicks everywhere.

Somehow we managed to legalize in Arizona this time. Like, it'll be sold like alcohol legal. And it doesn't seem like there's pushback by state legislature.

So, here's hoping for us and everybody in other states without legal weed.

I don't even enjoy being awake and high, but it's a great sleep inducer for someone with chronic insomnia like me.


I have really bad insomnia as well. Hell I was buying etizolam, a xanax analogue that's sold as a prescription in India and is considered a research chemical here in the US, just so I could get SOMETHING that I know would work. It DID but it also left me strung out on an anxiety medication which took a LONG time to get over.

Finally had enough money to get my medical card (cuz it's like, $250 just for the visit and card before you can even begin buying the overpriced weed at the dispensary) with this year's COVID check. Just wait til you can buy the Rick Simpson Oil or some of the concentrates and never even have to worry about smoking ever again! Taking a huge dab rip, with a big drink next to me, right before I'm ready to sleep always works perfectly.

My medical card is worth gold to me here in PA. Our governor has come out in favor out outright recreational legalization but, once again, our Republican House seems determined to torpedo anything that might help people.
 
2020-11-30 3:45:41 AM  

lolmao500: Congress folks still believe this shiat
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Funny cuz the only weird parties and wild orgies I've been involved in have been the result of (mostly) alcohol, which is perfectly legal. Even my first threesome, we all were like, "well this party isn't gonna start itself" and while my second boyfriend left the room to grab booze, my husband and I got naked, and it sure didn't take much of that bottle to make some very untoward things happen.

Same with the misery and depression and self loathing from the blackouts and random sexual encounters I don't remember (*as with most blackouts, at the time I was lucid enough to make conscious choices but literally could not form the memory and would be told these things the next day; not fun). Let's get real here; alcohol can and does fark up far more people's lives than marijuana does.
 
2020-11-30 4:52:32 AM  

misanthropicsob: Including Joe Biden.


Still a far better candidate than loser Trump.
 
2020-11-30 5:28:37 AM  

seapig: lolmao500: Congress folks still believe this shiat
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Funny cuz the only weird parties and wild orgies I've been involved in have been the result of (mostly) alcohol, which is perfectly legal. Even my first threesome, we all were like, "well this party isn't gonna start itself" and while my second boyfriend left the room to grab booze, my husband and I got naked, and it sure didn't take much of that bottle to make some very untoward things happen.

Same with the misery and depression and self loathing from the blackouts and random sexual encounters I don't remember (*as with most blackouts, at the time I was lucid enough to make conscious choices but literally could not form the memory and would be told these things the next day; not fun). Let's get real here; alcohol can and does fark up far more people's lives than marijuana does.


I would honestly question whether during a blackout someone has the capacity to consent. I would say people should probably not have sex with anyone new that they are not in a current established relationship with while they are drunk. I think even if they are in an established relationship they shouldn't try to have sex with them if they are incapacitated or passed out. I think it's important to recognize that you may have been a victim even if you don't see yourself that way, and that you should focus your anger on dirt bags who take advantage of drunk people, and not inner loathing of yourself. How you process your own situation is yours, but I encourage you to not beat yourself up over it. Both times I was raped I was drinking. So were they. Never had that issue with weed though. Hugs .
 
2020-11-30 5:55:47 AM  
I was the US that force "The War on Drugs" on the World.

They made countries make it illegal and many of them luv the idea and ran with it, making many drug crimes punishable by death (countries where only the right people should and do run the drug trade.)

Canada is currently my favourite country, they have just gone and done it.  Even in Amsterdam it was still illegal, but it was the police who said that they will not enforce it.  Still wondering whether if Canada would take me in as a political prisoner living under an oppressive state?
 
2020-11-30 6:05:55 AM  

lolmao500: Congress folks still believe this shiat
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"Weird orgies, wild parties"

So what they're saying is, I'm going to have a good time.
 
2020-11-30 6:12:12 AM  
FTFA:  "Some 49 percent of Republicans and 83 percent of Democrats support full legalization of marijuana, according to Gallup."

*raises hand*

Cool!  I'm in a 1/6 minority in my own party.  Glad to see some of us are still sensible, though.

Anyone here want to tell me why it is that we need to protect commerce in this sh*t with the power of the police?  Because as far as I can see, all we get from doing so is this kind of thing:

https://kymkemp.com/2020/11/29/four-m​a​sked-men-threatened-to-kill-security-g​uard-during-hopland-cannabis-robbery/

"The four unknown adult males loaded several hundreds pounds of the processed cannabis/marijuana into the GMC SUV and the security guard's 2014 Kia Soul sedan.

The four unknown adult males then fled the cannabis farm in both vehicles at approximately 6:20 AM while the security guard remained on the property."

Of course, I'm expecting that the cops will recover all of the stolen "product" in no time; it's not as if the stuff is particularly fungible or difficult to trace.
 
2020-11-30 6:52:57 AM  
Silly subby, you think Congress represents the people?
Corruption is Legal in America
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2020-11-30 6:53:16 AM  
I'm getting a kick out of this thread because I've been working on and uploading a stoner electronic track in the wee hours in my studio (the Deth Lab, ABQ, NM, thousands of miles below the earth's crust).  Tango Hotel Charlie 0420
 
2020-11-30 7:01:33 AM  

OhioUGrad: Didn't BO sign an EO that said the feds wouldn't pursue charges in states where it was legal, or something to that effect? I don't remember Dotard ever doing or saying anything about that. Can Biden take it further?

Robert Reich was on TV this morning talking about how much Biden can do with the pen, and it was a  lot more than I expected...however since it was Reich he was just talking about economic policies.

/can we get Reich in this admin?


Reich wants to help ordinary people too much for mainstream Democrats.
 
2020-11-30 7:11:22 AM  

flondrix: DON.MAC: There are enough states to pass a constitutional convention.  That would annoy the heck out of congress.

You do not want a constitutional convention.

Among other things, they will clear up that little misunderstanding that the first amendment was only meant to protect the free exercise of various denominations of Christianity, not different religions entirely.


The Constitution, as we have seen, has fundamental flaws that can only be fixed by a major rewrite. However, half the country would actually like to make it much worse. So America is farked either way.
 
2020-11-30 7:15:01 AM  

jso2897: misanthropicsob: Including Joe Biden.

Still a far better candidate than loser Trump.


Expect to see this "argument" a lot in the next 4 years.
 
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