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(Guardian)   Australia's on fire again as temperatures hit 40 degrees on Sydney coast; nearly 50 degrees inland .... and it's only November   (theguardian.com) divider line
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2020-11-29 4:37:06 PM  
That's sweater weather!
 
2020-11-29 5:10:03 PM  

OdradekRex: That's sweater weather!


Not if it's Celsius.

November down under is same as May up north.
 
2020-11-29 5:49:18 PM  
2020 doesn't know when to quit.
 
2020-11-29 7:12:38 PM  
Holy shiat. Imagine how it will be by July.
 
2020-11-29 7:18:20 PM  
Well, maybe they should have thought about not committing crimes if they didn't want to be sent to the Penal Colony
 
2020-11-29 7:22:14 PM  

HighlanderRPI: Well, maybe they should have thought about not committing crimes if they didn't want to be sent to the Penal Colony


You know that the UK only started to use Austria as a penal colony after 1776, right?
 
2020-11-29 7:58:22 PM  
For the Americans 40°C = 104°F and 49.6°C = 121°F

Arizona might be saying 'so what?' but 40°C is on the coast - literally at the beach - not inland, and big problem is shouldn't be getting such high temps so early in summer.
 
2020-11-29 8:17:12 PM  
So, Vegas in July. At least it's a dry heat here.

Also, 0°C last night.
 
2020-11-29 8:43:56 PM  
Whatever. They had a whole year to rake that shiat.
 
2020-11-29 8:44:06 PM  

iron de havilland: HighlanderRPI: Well, maybe they should have thought about not committing crimes if they didn't want to be sent to the Penal Colony

You know that the UK only started to use Austria as a penal colony after 1776, right?


They lost the lease on that other place and had to move in a hurry.
 
2020-11-29 8:46:49 PM  

C18H27NO3: Whatever. They had a whole year to rake that shiat.


Came here to make a raking joke, beaten to the punch.
 
2020-11-29 8:48:57 PM  
Quick and dirty conversion i learned a long time ago, take the C, double it and add 20 degrees, you'll be close to F.

40c * 2 + 20 = 100. Actual is 104

/ not perfect but it gives a relative idea..
 
2020-11-29 8:50:08 PM  

iron de havilland: HighlanderRPI: Well, maybe they should have thought about not committing crimes if they didn't want to be sent to the Penal Colony

You know that the UK only started to use Austria as a penal colony after 1776, right?


Sydney was founded in 1788 - what's your point?
 
2020-11-29 8:50:54 PM  
I won't be surprised if climate change will force parts of Australia to be abandoned in the next few decades.

Too little water and too much fire is a bad combination.
 
2020-11-29 8:52:07 PM  
I was in Sydney last December and it was so bad. They stopped running the ferries and some public transportation due to the air quality.  My last day there was one of the worst days as far as smoky skies and air.
This sucks.
 
2020-11-29 8:53:26 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: OdradekRex: That's sweater weather!

Not if it's Celsius.

November down under...


Would make a great band name.
 
2020-11-29 8:54:59 PM  
CliMaTe cHaNge iS a HoaX
 
2020-11-29 8:56:27 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: OdradekRex: That's sweater weather!

Not if it's Celsius.

November down under is same as May up north.


Yeah, bet you're fun at parties.
 
2020-11-29 8:56:52 PM  

emersonbiggins: iron de havilland: HighlanderRPI: Well, maybe they should have thought about not committing crimes if they didn't want to be sent to the Penal Colony

You know that the UK only started to use Austria as a penal colony after 1776, right?

Sydney was founded in 1788 - what's your point?


Just that it's a bit shiat to try and throw shade on an entire country that has a history of being a penal colony when - if HighlanderRPI's profile is correct - the poster throwing that shade also comes from a country that has a history of being a penal colony.
 
2020-11-29 8:59:33 PM  

WalkingSedgwick: I won't be surprised if climate change will force parts of Australia to be abandoned in the next few decades.


The interior is already largely uninhabitable desert scrubland, so probably not out of the question. The north and the south will always have the sea, but one has to imagine that most food crops would have to be imported, thus severely limiting the economic opportunities for those who stay behind.
 
2020-11-29 9:01:15 PM  

iron de havilland: emersonbiggins: iron de havilland: HighlanderRPI: Well, maybe they should have thought about not committing crimes if they didn't want to be sent to the Penal Colony

You know that the UK only started to use Austria as a penal colony after 1776, right?

Sydney was founded in 1788 - what's your point?

Just that it's a bit shiat to try and throw shade on an entire country that has a history of being a penal colony when - if HighlanderRPI's profile is correct - the poster throwing that shade also comes from a country that has a history of being a penal colony.


Point taken.  Australian history is fascinating to me, since it's modern timeline basically starts after the colonies went rogue.
 
2020-11-29 9:02:33 PM  
It's almost as if there are tangible consequences to decades of tilting the climate towards warmth, and most of those consequences are negative for the way of life we built around a colder, more stable climate.

Nah. Clearly we need to develop better forest raking technology. Bulldoze the trees, and the trees won't catch in fire, right?
 
2020-11-29 9:05:43 PM  
On the brightside, you can't have any fires in the summer if everything burns down in the spring.
 
2020-11-29 9:08:58 PM  

TheCableGuy: Quick and dirty conversion i learned a long time ago, take the C, double it and add 20 degrees, you'll be close to F.

40c * 2 + 20 = 100. Actual is 104

/ not perfect but it gives a relative idea..


You could also multiply by 1.8 and add 32.
 
2020-11-29 9:09:15 PM  

TheCableGuy: Quick and dirty conversion i learned a long time ago, take the C, double it and add 20 degrees, you'll be close to F.

40c * 2 + 20 = 100. Actual is 104

/ not perfect but it gives a relative idea..


so for 0C
o x 2 +20 = 20
only off by 12
 
2020-11-29 9:11:17 PM  
Getting hotter, you say?

Obviously the answer is to import and expand millions more Third World carbon footprints!
 
2020-11-29 9:14:27 PM  

Badafuco: I was in Sydney last December and it was so bad. They stopped running the ferries and some public transportation due to the air quality.  My last day there was one of the worst days as far as smoky skies and air.
This sucks.


Probably the only day in your life you (or anyone else) thought, "man, I wish was in Oxnard."
 
2020-11-29 9:15:35 PM  

adamatari: It's almost as if there are tangible consequences to decades of tilting the climate towards warmth, and most of those consequences are negative for the way of life we built around a colder, more stable climate.

Nah. Clearly we need to develop better forest raking technology. Bulldoze the trees, and the trees won't catch in fire, right?


The unmined brown coal fields are getting to the point where the temperature is already getting above the point of occasional spontaneous combustion.

There is already a spike in some types of smoke related cancers from last summer.  Oddly enough most of them aren't lung related.
 
2020-11-29 9:17:26 PM  

WTP 2: TheCableGuy: Quick and dirty conversion i learned a long time ago, take the C, double it and add 20 degrees, you'll be close to F.

40c * 2 + 20 = 100. Actual is 104

/ not perfect but it gives a relative idea..

so for 0C
o x 2 +20 = 20
only off by 12


-40 . 2 = -80 + 20 = -60
 
2020-11-29 9:25:51 PM  
planet is pissed
 
2020-11-29 9:30:18 PM  

C18H27NO3: Whatever. They had a whole year to rake that shiat.


adamatari: It's almost as if there are tangible consequences to decades of tilting the climate towards warmth, and most of those consequences are negative for the way of life we built around a colder, more stable climate.

Nah. Clearly we need to develop better forest raking technology. Bulldoze the trees, and the trees won't catch in fire, right?


Thing is, Oz bushfires are completely different to US ones. Eucalyptus forests are unique. What happens when  the temperatures soar is that the gum (eucalyptus oils) volatiles evaporate, so the air is full of flammable gas,just waiting for an ignition source. Under right conditions,whole valleys literally explode.

And eucalyptus have long feathery strips of bark hanging off the tree. Perfect for kindling, and with the fun extra of being light enough to float on fire's convection currents, carrying flames in all directions.

tl-dr, raking is not a feasible option
 
2020-11-29 9:30:37 PM  
only 40, brrr, so much for global warming!
 
2020-11-29 9:37:19 PM  
I have a friend in Sydney.  She told me she couldn't leave her windows open during the fires last year because ash and soot would collect on the windowsills.  She sent me some video, the sky looked like Mars.  Scary stuff.
 
2020-11-29 9:37:59 PM  
The first day of summer in Australia is December first, about 10.5 hours from the time of this post.

News flash it gets hot in Australia in late spring and summer.
 
2020-11-29 9:38:52 PM  

iron de havilland: HighlanderRPI: Well, maybe they should have thought about not committing crimes if they didn't want to be sent to the Penal Colony

You know that the UK only started to use Austria as a penal colony after 1776, right?


Australia just got the convicts.

The US was settled by religious extremists and penal colonies.

And then they bred.
 
2020-11-29 9:40:25 PM  
It's hot but unlikely to be a big bushfire season here as it's also been a drought-breaking wet.

Just building up the fuel for the next bushfire season though.
 
2020-11-29 9:48:32 PM  

mjjt: And eucalyptus have long feathery strips of bark hanging off the tree. Perfect for kindling, and with the fun extra of being light enough to float on fire's convection currents, carrying flames in all directions.

tl-dr, raking is not a feasible option


That is why you need one of those lumber jack pole climbing ropes when you go out raking.  You have to rake the sides of the trees too.
 
2020-11-29 9:51:56 PM  

nicoffeine: Badafuco: I was in Sydney last December and it was so bad. They stopped running the ferries and some public transportation due to the air quality.  My last day there was one of the worst days as far as smoky skies and air.
This sucks.

Probably the only day in your life you (or anyone else) thought, "man, I wish was in Oxnard."


Ha! Yeah, rarely said or felt but I was ready to come back.
 
2020-11-29 9:55:08 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: OdradekRex: That's sweater weather!

Not if it's Celsius.

November down under is same as May up north.


This is fark.  We only work in Freedom Units.
 
2020-11-29 10:02:46 PM  
That's like what, a thousand in real degrees?
 
2020-11-29 10:05:11 PM  
There has to be something deep within the desert that is feeding off the heat and fire...
The Australians dug too greedily and too deep I think..What they awoke in the depths of
Cooper Pedy..Fire and flame....
 
2020-11-29 10:12:14 PM  

Mr. Shabooboo: There has to be something deep within the desert that is feeding off the heat and fire...
The Australians dug too greedily and too deep I think..What they awoke in the depths of
Cooper Pedy..Fire and flame....


This is their payback for Yahoo Serious.
 
2020-11-29 10:19:05 PM  

iron de havilland: WTP 2: TheCableGuy: Quick and dirty conversion i learned a long time ago, take the C, double it and add 20 degrees, you'll be close to F.

40c * 2 + 20 = 100. Actual is 104

/ not perfect but it gives a relative idea..

so for 0C
o x 2 +20 = 20
only off by 12

-40 . 2 = -80 + 20 = -60


Note the "quick and dirty"... It's a good enough approximation for reasonable living temps by inferior human math meat-circuits.
 
2020-11-29 10:20:20 PM  

TheCableGuy: / not perfect but it gives a relative idea..


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2020-11-29 10:21:44 PM  
cam't beat the orange skies we had in SF couple of months ago
 
2020-11-29 10:23:15 PM  

Leader O'Cola: TheCableGuy: / not perfect but it gives a relative idea..

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Well, that's just a theory.
 
2020-11-29 10:33:38 PM  

TheCableGuy: Quick and dirty conversion i learned a long time ago, take the C, double it and add 20 degrees, you'll be close to F.

40c * 2 + 20 = 100. Actual is 104

/ not perfect but it gives a relative idea..


I heard it as double it and add 30, which is how a sixpack turns into 42 metric beers.
 
2020-11-29 10:35:12 PM  

mjjt: C18H27NO3: Whatever. They had a whole year to rake that shiat.

adamatari: It's almost as if there are tangible consequences to decades of tilting the climate towards warmth, and most of those consequences are negative for the way of life we built around a colder, more stable climate.

Nah. Clearly we need to develop better forest raking technology. Bulldoze the trees, and the trees won't catch in fire, right?

Thing is, Oz bushfires are completely different to US ones. Eucalyptus forests are unique. What happens when  the temperatures soar is that the gum (eucalyptus oils) volatiles evaporate, so the air is full of flammable gas,just waiting for an ignition source. Under right conditions,whole valleys literally explode.

And eucalyptus have long feathery strips of bark hanging off the tree. Perfect for kindling, and with the fun extra of being light enough to float on fire's convection currents, carrying flames in all directions.

tl-dr, raking is not a feasible option


Good thing there are no eucalyptus forests in San Diego, the fires are bad enough.
 
2020-11-29 10:35:33 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: OdradekRex: That's sweater weather!

Not if it's Celsius.

November down under is same as May up north.


Is that a euphemism?
 
2020-11-29 10:39:38 PM  

GranoblasticMan: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: OdradekRex: That's sweater weather!

Not if it's Celsius.

November down under is same as May up north.

Is that a euphemism?


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