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(International Business Times)   Van Houten denied parole, can't borrow a feeling   (ibtimes.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Charles Manson, Susan Atkins, Leslie Van Houten, Murder, Leno and Rosemary LaBianca, Sharon Tate, Van Houten, Prison  
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2020-11-29 10:18:17 PM  
Broken hearts need some healing.
 
2020-11-29 10:26:36 PM  
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2020-11-29 11:20:46 PM  
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/"My glasses!"
 
2020-11-29 11:22:41 PM  
Goodnight, sweet priestess.  You're with R'hlor now.


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2020-11-29 11:29:05 PM  
Still a better criminal than Van Hougar.
 
2020-11-29 11:30:15 PM  
I'm with Pyro now.
 
2020-11-29 11:32:42 PM  
That dude looks swanky for a jailbird.

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2020-11-29 11:43:53 PM  
Well, that puts a final nail in any coffin of any comeback tour for David Lee Roth.
 
2020-11-29 11:46:22 PM  
Season 8 sucks!
 
2020-11-29 11:49:25 PM  
OH, MY DEMO TAPE!
 
2020-11-29 11:49:37 PM  
Sorry, there's enough crazies out here.
 
2020-11-29 11:49:54 PM  
Stick a fork in her: no parole.
 
2020-11-29 11:50:39 PM  
Still a better lineup than Van Hagar.
 
2020-11-30 12:02:06 AM  
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2020-11-30 12:14:36 AM  
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2020-11-30 12:21:19 AM  
Killer headline, Subby.
 
2020-11-30 12:26:20 AM  

Jesterling: Goodnight, sweet priestess.  You're with R'hlor now.


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My tongue would do many many dirty things to her if she wanted to, and she lifted the restraining order....
 
2020-11-30 12:35:49 AM  
There's not a day goes by I don't feel regret. Not because I'm in here, because you think I should. I look back on the way I was then: a young, stupid kid who committed that terrible crime. I want to talk to her. I want to try to talk some sense to her, tell her the way things are. But I can't. That kid's long gone, and this old woman is all that's left. I got to live with that. Rehabilitated? It's just a bullshiat word. So you go on and stamp your form, sonny, and stop wasting my time. Because to tell you the truth, I don't give a shiat.

If she says that next time she's as good as out.
 
2020-11-30 12:50:40 AM  

Birnone: There's not a day goes by I don't feel regret. Not because I'm in here, because you think I should. I look back on the way I was then: a young, stupid kid who committed that terrible crime. I want to talk to her. I want to try to talk some sense to her, tell her the way things are. But I can't. That kid's long gone, and this old woman is all that's left. I got to live with that. Rehabilitated? It's just a bullshiat word. So you go on and stamp your form, sonny, and stop wasting my time. Because to tell you the truth, I don't give a shiat.

If she says that next time she's as good as out.


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2020-11-30 12:54:26 AM  
If he ever got out, the only way he'd be able to get a job is if his Uncle hired him to work at the cracker factory.
 
2020-11-30 1:26:53 AM  
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2020-11-30 1:33:05 AM  
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2020-11-30 2:58:05 AM  
Personally, I don't really see the reason to keep her locked up. There's only so much good society can gain from keeping her locked up before rehabilitation turns into institutionalisation.
 
2020-11-30 3:16:28 AM  
None of those bastards deserve parole. It's not about keeping society safe, it's about murdering innocent people in cold blood. One of whom is about 8 months pregnant and begging them to at least keep her hostage so she can give birth. Prisons aren't just for rehabilitation, they're for punishment also. Don't give freedom to someone who's taken life.
 
2020-11-30 3:18:11 AM  

uttertosh: Personally, I don't really see the reason to keep her locked up. There's only so much good society can gain from keeping her locked up before rehabilitation turns into institutionalisation.


Rehabilitation is not the only purpose prison serves.  Protecting the public from dangerous people is another important function.  Leslie Van Houten was originally supposed to be executed.  Those who argue against the death penalty claim that life imprisonment is just as effective as execution in protecting the innocent from the guilty, but that is only true if you really, actually, lock people up until they die.
 
2020-11-30 4:01:53 AM  
Piggies need to stay in the pen.

gavel slam.
 
2020-11-30 4:28:38 AM  

flondrix: uttertosh: Personally, I don't really see the reason to keep her locked up. There's only so much good society can gain from keeping her locked up before rehabilitation turns into institutionalisation.

Rehabilitation is not the only purpose prison serves.  Protecting the public from dangerous people is another important function.  Leslie Van Houten was originally supposed to be executed.  Those who argue against the death penalty claim that life imprisonment is just as effective as execution in protecting the innocent from the guilty, but that is only true if you really, actually, lock people up until they die.


This. When you have shown that you are capable of certain things, that cannot be reversed or negated by any amount of "rehabilitation". The fact that you are capable of something does not mean you will do it again - but it doesn't mean you won't, either.
I don't care if it's a cold iron prison or a place with trees and flowers and chirping birds and nice young men in clean white coats. But it's got to be some place you can never get out of, and where you can't get at normal, decent people. Ever again.
There is some shiat you cannot take back.
 
2020-11-30 5:35:24 AM  
I think all of you are forgetting the real reason this person is staying in prison: to ensure that the population not in prison feels better. (From a governor's perspective, there is literally nothing to gain and a lot to lose by allowing such a visible, well known criminal free. Got to keep those pesky voters happy. And prisoners can't vote.)
 
2020-11-30 6:28:17 AM  

My Second Fark Account: I think all of you are forgetting the real reason this person is staying in prison: to ensure that the population not in prison feels better. (From a governor's perspective, there is literally nothing to gain and a lot to lose by allowing such a visible, well known criminal free. Got to keep those pesky voters happy. And prisoners can't vote.)


Oh yeah..?
Where were you governor? I never heard of you...
 
2020-11-30 6:46:51 AM  

jso2897: flondrix: uttertosh: Personally, I don't really see the reason to keep her locked up. There's only so much good society can gain from keeping her locked up before rehabilitation turns into institutionalisation.

Rehabilitation is not the only purpose prison serves.  Protecting the public from dangerous people is another important function.  Leslie Van Houten was originally supposed to be executed.  Those who argue against the death penalty claim that life imprisonment is just as effective as execution in protecting the innocent from the guilty, but that is only true if you really, actually, lock people up until they die.

This. When you have shown that you are capable of certain things, that cannot be reversed or negated by any amount of "rehabilitation". The fact that you are capable of something does not mean you will do it again - but it doesn't mean you won't, either.
I don't care if it's a cold iron prison or a place with trees and flowers and chirping birds and nice young men in clean white coats. But it's got to be some place you can never get out of, and where you can't get at normal, decent people. Ever again.
There is some shiat you cannot take back.

 
2020-11-30 6:48:58 AM  

jso2897: flondrix: uttertosh: Personally, I don't really see the reason to keep her locked up. There's only so much good society can gain from keeping her locked up before rehabilitation turns into institutionalisation.

Rehabilitation is not the only purpose prison serves.  Protecting the public from dangerous people is another important function.  Leslie Van Houten was originally supposed to be executed.  Those who argue against the death penalty claim that life imprisonment is just as effective as execution in protecting the innocent from the guilty, but that is only true if you really, actually, lock people up until they die.

This. When you have shown that you are capable of certain things, that cannot be reversed or negated by any amount of "rehabilitation". The fact that you are capable of something does not mean you will do it again - but it doesn't mean you won't, either.
I don't care if it's a cold iron prison or a place with trees and flowers and chirping birds and nice young men in clean white coats. But it's got to be some place you can never get out of, and where you can't get at normal, decent people. Ever again.
There is some shiat you cannot take back.


You literally just described soldiers coming back from wars.

You also know that 'but, for the love of our flag' doesn't cut it when so many trained killers are simply launched back onto their communities without proper support for the trauma of taking others lives. Rehabilitation is obviously necessary to help people cope with being back in society, but at what point do we stop keeping them from ultimate goal of rehabilitation: reintroduction of the person into a meaningful role within the community?

Again, I ask my question about the good it actually serves the community to keep this woman in the state of incarnation? How much a year is she currently costing the taxpayers? She is seemingly as unlikely to commit a similar crime as is possible, especially with the number of eyes watching her.

/yeah yeah yeah, cat/pigeons.
 
2020-11-30 7:54:43 AM  
tRump to pardon in 3  2  1.

I know I know she's not a federal prisoner .........
 
2020-11-30 8:57:34 AM  

jso2897: flondrix: uttertosh: Personally, I don't really see the reason to keep her locked up. There's only so much good society can gain from keeping her locked up before rehabilitation turns into institutionalisation.

Rehabilitation is not the only purpose prison serves.  Protecting the public from dangerous people is another important function.  Leslie Van Houten was originally supposed to be executed.  Those who argue against the death penalty claim that life imprisonment is just as effective as execution in protecting the innocent from the guilty, but that is only true if you really, actually, lock people up until they die.

This. When you have shown that you are capable of certain things, that cannot be reversed or negated by any amount of "rehabilitation". The fact that you are capable of something does not mean you will do it again - but it doesn't mean you won't, either.
I don't care if it's a cold iron prison or a place with trees and flowers and chirping birds and nice young men in clean white coats. But it's got to be some place you can never get out of, and where you can't get at normal, decent people. Ever again.
There is some shiat you cannot take back.


Sadly, because of certain terrible atrocities at a former convict jail in Tasmania and a pair of mosques in New Zealand, there are many many Aussies and Kiwis who have the kind of traumatic emotional experience that would lead us to agree with this statement.
 
2020-11-30 9:18:22 AM  
What the fark happened to my comment?
 
2020-11-30 9:26:54 AM  

I Swear I'll Jump: What the fark happened to my comment?


It got Clintoned in the boobies

/inevitable, really
 
2020-11-30 9:30:11 AM  
Those manson girls were pretty sexy back in the day
 
2020-11-30 10:12:31 AM  

I Swear I'll Jump: What the fark happened to my comment?


NuFark is best Fark, yes.
 
2020-11-30 11:51:43 AM  

vickster56: None of those bastards deserve parole. It's not about keeping society safe, it's about murdering innocent people in cold blood. One of whom is about 8 months pregnant and begging them to at least keep her hostage so she can give birth. Prisons aren't just for rehabilitation, they're for punishment also. Don't give freedom to someone who's taken life.


Leslie was not involved in the Tate killings.
 
2020-12-01 1:55:52 AM  

vickster56: None of those bastards deserve parole. It's not about keeping society safe, it's about murdering innocent people in cold blood. One of whom is about 8 months pregnant and begging them to at least keep her hostage so she can give birth. Prisons aren't just for rehabilitation, they're for punishment also. Don't give freedom to someone who's taken life.


Hum.
A lot of ways you're correct.
But if taking lives means you don't deserve freedom.
Maybe America doesn't deserve freedom?
But maybe it does because they've turned their ways around?

I don't know.

Maybe they should have executed all these people swiftly?
But I guess the only Lynch black people huh?
 
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