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2020-11-29 11:32:19 AM  
The band? Yeah, they sucked.
 
2020-11-29 11:33:08 AM  
I choose death
 
2020-11-29 11:36:07 AM  
Go make me a sammich, Subby.
 
2020-11-29 11:36:17 AM  
Its stunning that despite the very food that basically allowed for civilization to develop is magically turned to poison over the last 10 years.

Its almost as if that people have taken something that IS true (a tiny percentage of people are allergic to gluten) and turned it into the thing to blame any or all problems (real or made up).  Feeling tired?  Its not that you're in your 40s now or that you drink too much soda... its gluten!
 
2020-11-29 11:40:28 AM  
Not if it's toasted.

THE HEAT KILLS THE BAD PART
 
2020-11-29 11:42:37 AM  
Bread, and ham sandwiches, are life.

/yes I'm Irish
 
2020-11-29 11:45:56 AM  
I should go make bread...
 
2020-11-29 11:50:06 AM  
Bezoz got the most bread in the world, right? So he should be real sick.
 
2020-11-29 11:59:09 AM  

weddingsinger: Its stunning that despite the very food that basically allowed for civilization to develop is magically turned to poison over the last 10 years.

Its almost as if that people have taken something that IS true (a tiny percentage of people are allergic to gluten) and turned it into the thing to blame any or all problems (real or made up).  Feeling tired?  Its not that you're in your 40s now or that you drink too much soda... its gluten!


You're ignoring the increasing medical evidence for gluten intolerance! I learned about it on Twitter and Facebook. My holistic nutritionist says gluten is very bad for me and is also putting my chakras out of balance. That's really serious and can cause all sorts of life-threatening problems.
 
2020-11-29 12:09:59 PM  

hissatsu: weddingsinger: Its stunning that despite the very food that basically allowed for civilization to develop is magically turned to poison over the last 10 years.

Its almost as if that people have taken something that IS true (a tiny percentage of people are allergic to gluten) and turned it into the thing to blame any or all problems (real or made up).  Feeling tired?  Its not that you're in your 40s now or that you drink too much soda... its gluten!

You're ignoring the increasing medical evidence for gluten intolerance! I learned about it on Twitter and Facebook. My holistic nutritionist says gluten is very bad for me and is also putting my chakras out of balance. That's really serious and can cause all sorts of life-threatening problems.


The yoga position for self-fisting should balance out those chakras.
 
2020-11-29 12:15:35 PM  
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2020-11-29 12:16:03 PM  
Gluten intolerance is largely regional to North America. I'll let you figure out which chemicals are used on grain crops in the US that are banned in Europe.
 
2020-11-29 12:16:17 PM  
The Tracy Jordan Meat Machine - 30 Rock
Youtube krzcOIyke7M
 
2020-11-29 12:22:53 PM  
Gluten aside, eating a crapton of carbs and no vegetables without doing a bunch of manual labor to offset it, is kinda bad for you. Hence the obesity and food desert issues we have, especially among lower income folks.
 
2020-11-29 12:53:05 PM  

weddingsinger: Its stunning that despite the very food that basically allowed for civilization to develop is magically turned to poison over the last 10 years.

Its almost as if that people have taken something that IS true (a tiny percentage of people are allergic to gluten) and turned it into the thing to blame any or all problems (real or made up).  Feeling tired?  Its not that you're in your 40s now or that you drink too much soda... its gluten!


Had any Sarah Lee 'bread' lately? You can taste the sugar.
 
2020-11-29 1:09:52 PM  
Dizzy spells, clumsiness, loss of balance and falls. All worrying and strikingly common symptoms that affect millions of Britons.

Ah liquid bread, yes yes, we know.
 
2020-11-29 1:11:56 PM  

hissatsu: weddingsinger: Its stunning that despite the very food that basically allowed for civilization to develop is magically turned to poison over the last 10 years.

Its almost as if that people have taken something that IS true (a tiny percentage of people are allergic to gluten) and turned it into the thing to blame any or all problems (real or made up).  Feeling tired?  Its not that you're in your 40s now or that you drink too much soda... its gluten!

You're ignoring the increasing medical evidence for gluten intolerance! I learned about it on Twitter and Facebook. My holistic nutritionist says gluten is very bad for me and is also putting my chakras out of balance. That's really serious and can cause all sorts of life-threatening problems.


I'm not gonna believe it until you can show me a youtube video
 
2020-11-29 1:29:06 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: weddingsinger: Its stunning that despite the very food that basically allowed for civilization to develop is magically turned to poison over the last 10 years.

Its almost as if that people have taken something that IS true (a tiny percentage of people are allergic to gluten) and turned it into the thing to blame any or all problems (real or made up).  Feeling tired?  Its not that you're in your 40s now or that you drink too much soda... its gluten!

Had any Sarah Lee 'bread' lately? You can taste the sugar.


Curious, I looked it up.

1 serving is 1 slice and the label says of the 12g of carbs, 1 gram is sugar.  That's 0.03 ounces, approximately 1/4 teaspoon. Not an unusual amount for bread since sugar is really good at holding moisture.
 
2020-11-29 1:51:45 PM  
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after reading most of that I no longer believe in the existence of brains, damage or bread.
 
2020-11-29 2:30:05 PM  
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What, right after I almost master baking bread? Fark you, TFA.  These loaves came out looking so good they could have been movie props

/Kinda tasted like movie props, too, though
//Look, I said 'almost'
 
2020-11-29 3:13:16 PM  
I should eat more bread.
 
2020-11-29 3:42:42 PM  

toraque: [Fark user image image 600x450]

What, right after I almost master baking bread? Fark you, TFA.  These loaves came out looking so good they could have been movie props

/Kinda tasted like movie props, too, though
//Look, I said 'almost'


Baking bread is farking hard.  I am only able to make soda bread, the lazy Irish cousin of French Bread.
 
2020-11-29 3:51:34 PM  
Boswell family frown on anti-Bread shenanigans...

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2020-11-29 3:53:01 PM  

toraque: [Fark user image 600x450]

What, right after I almost master baking bread? Fark you, TFA.  These loaves came out looking so good they could have been movie props

/Kinda tasted like movie props, too, though
//Look, I said 'almost'


lol

I was already interested in sourdoughs before quarantine, but this year its kicked into higher gear.  Now I bake a loaf about once a week or at least every other week.
 
2020-11-29 3:53:23 PM  
Yay, more gluten hysteria for the soft-headed ninnies.

Meanwhile, at my local Asian market:
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/ I have some acquaintances who are anti-gluten, anti-vax, pro-homeopathy, Scientologists
// I am so tempted to buy a case of this stuff and ship it to them anonymously
 
2020-11-29 3:55:41 PM  

Gubbo: hissatsu: weddingsinger: Its stunning that despite the very food that basically allowed for civilization to develop is magically turned to poison over the last 10 years.

Its almost as if that people have taken something that IS true (a tiny percentage of people are allergic to gluten) and turned it into the thing to blame any or all problems (real or made up).  Feeling tired?  Its not that you're in your 40s now or that you drink too much soda... its gluten!

You're ignoring the increasing medical evidence for gluten intolerance! I learned about it on Twitter and Facebook. My holistic nutritionist says gluten is very bad for me and is also putting my chakras out of balance. That's really serious and can cause all sorts of life-threatening problems.

I'm not gonna believe it until you can show me a youtube video


Science Isn't Scary Episode 32: Gluten Isn't Scary
Youtube ficqtrvADgo


Ask and ye shall receive.

Wait, 8 views?  I only got 8 goddamn views on this one?  While the farking balance-your-chakras-with-tofu-enema ones we're mocking get thousands?  That's everything that's wrong with everything today.

/might also be my production values
 
2020-11-29 4:26:29 PM  

American-Irish eyes: toraque: [Fark user image image 600x450]

What, right after I almost master baking bread? Fark you, TFA.  These loaves came out looking so good they could have been movie props

/Kinda tasted like movie props, too, though
//Look, I said 'almost'

Baking bread is farking hard.  I am only able to make soda bread, the lazy Irish cousin of French Bread.


For what it's worth, today's experiment with making pretzel rolls turned into making 'pretzel-roll-stick things' and then mutated into 'hideously deformed tragedies' in the boil before finally coming out as 'Shame Bread.' I will not be posting a picture.
 
2020-11-29 4:27:34 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Gluten intolerance is largely regional to North America. I'll let you figure out which chemicals are used on grain crops in the US that are banned in Europe.


There is a difference between the number of people who are gluten sensitive and the number of people who THINK they are gluten sensitive.  While more prevalent, gluten sensitivity is absolutely not largely regional to North America
 
2020-11-29 4:28:14 PM  

weddingsinger: Its stunning that despite the very food that basically allowed for civilization to develop is magically turned to poison over the last 10 years.

Its almost as if that people have taken something that IS true (a tiny percentage of people are allergic to gluten) and turned it into the thing to blame any or all problems (real or made up).  Feeling tired?  Its not that you're in your 40s now or that you drink too much soda... its gluten!


Civilization developed, sure.  Also teeth got worse and lifespans got shorter.  You can make lots of babies but not live a long life.  YAY.
 
2020-11-29 4:33:05 PM  

American-Irish eyes: toraque: [Fark user image image 600x450]

What, right after I almost master baking bread? Fark you, TFA.  These loaves came out looking so good they could have been movie props

/Kinda tasted like movie props, too, though
//Look, I said 'almost'

Baking bread is farking hard.  I am only able to make soda bread, the lazy Irish cousin of French Bread.


I make pretty outstanding flatbreads, which I'll do if I have company.  I just don't eat nearly enough bread to justify owning a whole loaf of it.  It goes bad after I have that one Reuben that I wanted to make.

Restaurants can own the bread for me, for whenever I get around to wanting a sammich.
 
2020-11-29 4:44:15 PM  

weddingsinger: Its stunning that despite the very food that basically allowed for civilization to develop is magically turned to poison over the last 10 years.

Its almost as if that people have taken something that IS true (a tiny percentage of people are allergic to gluten) and turned it into the thing to blame any or all problems (real or made up).  Feeling tired?  Its not that you're in your 40s now or that you drink too much soda... its gluten!


Also the fact that industrial farming doesn't allow for the replenishment of soil, so our wheat is devoid of nutrition.

/If you think you have a gluten intolerance, you don't
//You're a sheep
///Until we fix our farming practices, our food supply will continue to deteriorate
 
2020-11-29 4:48:42 PM  

toraque: [Fark user image image 600x450]

What, right after I almost master baking bread? Fark you, TFA.  These loaves came out looking so good they could have been movie props

/Kinda tasted like movie props, too, though
//Look, I said 'almost'


Not at all.

I'm a fan of master baking myself.

Because no one else is going to do it.
 
2020-11-29 4:53:05 PM  
I love baking bread on occasion. Rice is the better starch. 3 billion people in the world can't be wrong.
 
2020-11-29 4:54:22 PM  
I feel like some Farker is personally calling me out. Reported.
 
2020-11-29 5:02:05 PM  
Oh fark off.
 
2020-11-29 5:04:36 PM  

weddingsinger: Its stunning that despite the very food that basically allowed for civilization to develop is magically turned to poison over the last 10 years.

Its almost as if that people have taken something that IS true (a tiny percentage of people are allergic to gluten) and turned it into the thing to blame any or all problems (real or made up).  Feeling tired?  Its not that you're in your 40s now or that you drink too much soda... its gluten!


It's more like the last 60, with the introduction of industrial bread production.  Watch the Michael Pollan series (or read the book) _Cooked_.
 
2020-11-29 5:05:26 PM  

Tarl3k: weddingsinger: Its stunning that despite the very food that basically allowed for civilization to develop is magically turned to poison over the last 10 years.

Its almost as if that people have taken something that IS true (a tiny percentage of people are allergic to gluten) and turned it into the thing to blame any or all problems (real or made up).  Feeling tired?  Its not that you're in your 40s now or that you drink too much soda... its gluten!

Also the fact that industrial farming doesn't allow for the replenishment of soil, so our wheat is devoid of nutrition.

/If you think you have a gluten intolerance, you don't
//You're a sheep
///Until we fix our farming practices, our food supply will continue to deteriorate


Do you have a source for that?  Because one would presume that soil either does or does not have the nutrients required for wheat to grow.  There really isn't a third option where the wheat grows but isn't actually wheat somehow.
 
2020-11-29 5:06:57 PM  

rosekolodny: weddingsinger: Its stunning that despite the very food that basically allowed for civilization to develop is magically turned to poison over the last 10 years.

Its almost as if that people have taken something that IS true (a tiny percentage of people are allergic to gluten) and turned it into the thing to blame any or all problems (real or made up).  Feeling tired?  Its not that you're in your 40s now or that you drink too much soda... its gluten!

Civilization developed, sure.  Also teeth got worse and lifespans got shorter.  You can make lots of babies but not live a long life.  YAY.


lol, Wut?
Citation please
Humans are living much longer than they were when civilization was developed, and "toothsome" no longer means good looking because now everyone has teeth.
 
2020-11-29 5:24:55 PM  
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2020-11-29 5:32:32 PM  

Autoerotic Defenestration: [Fark user image 500x500]

Stauffer Chemical Co. first patented glyphosate as a mineral chelator in 1964. Then in 1974, Monsanto introduced this chelator as an herbicide.


Seems like something 45+ years old isn't the problem and instead its the awareness issue.... gluten allergy is real, but now that people know it exists they think they have it, too because Facebook said so.  Then more people started saying so because there was money in it.

Roundup is a problem for its own reasons, but almost certainly isn't related to this issue.

I'd be more concerned by the organic movement's push to start using older pesticides again.  Pesticides that require much larger amounts than modern creations.

Or that farmers don't really track chemical usage well (or at all).  Or follow sanitation laws well.
 
2020-11-29 5:34:40 PM  

weddingsinger: Roundup is a problem for its own reasons, but almost certainly isn't related to this issue.


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2020-11-29 6:00:31 PM  

weddingsinger: Autoerotic Defenestration: [Fark user image 500x500]

Stauffer Chemical Co. first patented glyphosate as a mineral chelator in 1964. Then in 1974, Monsanto introduced this chelator as an herbicide.

Seems like something 45+ years old isn't the problem and instead its the awareness issue.... gluten allergy is real, but now that people know it exists they think they have it, too because Facebook said so.  Then more people started saying so because there was money in it.

Roundup is a problem for its own reasons, but almost certainly isn't related to this issue.

I'd be more concerned by the organic movement's push to start using older pesticides again.  Pesticides that require much larger amounts than modern creations.

Or that farmers don't really track chemical usage well (or at all).  Or follow sanitation laws well.


A farmer that knows what they are doing keeps very good track of what they use, how much, what they paid for it, what the yield was on that acreage, what the precipitation was that year, etc. They also have brooms on each tractor and sweep those things clean before moving to another field.
 
2020-11-29 6:02:29 PM  

hissatsu: weddingsinger: Its stunning that despite the very food that basically allowed for civilization to develop is magically turned to poison over the last 10 years.

Its almost as if that people have taken something that IS true (a tiny percentage of people are allergic to gluten) and turned it into the thing to blame any or all problems (real or made up).  Feeling tired?  Its not that you're in your 40s now or that you drink too much soda... its gluten!

You're ignoring the increasing medical evidence for gluten intolerance! I learned about it on Twitter and Facebook. My holistic nutritionist says gluten is very bad for me and is also putting my chakras out of balance. That's really serious and can cause all sorts of life-threatening problems.


My sister in law claims to be intolerant to the below based on some holistic food allergy test she took (which has no scientific value):

Gluten (my wife has real, diagnosed celiac, her sis can just tell by her gut fauna)
Tapioca/cassava
Dairy
Cucumbers
Sweet potatoes
Corn
Sugar
Anything processed

She also insists on only drinking her special coffee that is certified to be mold free, and making her own coconut cream to put in said coffee. She can't spend too much time around people who "wear man made perfumes" because she gets nauseated and developed a headache. And she condescends to everyone as she informs them what they're doing wrong that she's doing right.

She's quite an asshole sometimes.
 
2020-11-29 6:15:40 PM  

Al Tsheimers: weddingsinger: Autoerotic Defenestration: [Fark user image 500x500]

Stauffer Chemical Co. first patented glyphosate as a mineral chelator in 1964. Then in 1974, Monsanto introduced this chelator as an herbicide.

Seems like something 45+ years old isn't the problem and instead its the awareness issue.... gluten allergy is real, but now that people know it exists they think they have it, too because Facebook said so.  Then more people started saying so because there was money in it.

Roundup is a problem for its own reasons, but almost certainly isn't related to this issue.

I'd be more concerned by the organic movement's push to start using older pesticides again.  Pesticides that require much larger amounts than modern creations.

Or that farmers don't really track chemical usage well (or at all).  Or follow sanitation laws well.

A farmer that knows what they are doing keeps very good track of what they use, how much, what they paid for it, what the yield was on that acreage, what the precipitation was that year, etc. They also have brooms on each tractor and sweep those things clean before moving to another field.


What is that, like 5% of farmers?

I legit have no idea.  I do know that folks who work with farmers have a LOT of stories about how farmers ignore rules/laws and don't really give a sh*t.
 
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2020-11-29 6:33:22 PM  

weddingsinger: Tarl3k: weddingsinger: Its stunning that despite the very food that basically allowed for civilization to develop is magically turned to poison over the last 10 years.

Its almost as if that people have taken something that IS true (a tiny percentage of people are allergic to gluten) and turned it into the thing to blame any or all problems (real or made up).  Feeling tired?  Its not that you're in your 40s now or that you drink too much soda... its gluten!

Also the fact that industrial farming doesn't allow for the replenishment of soil, so our wheat is devoid of nutrition.

/If you think you have a gluten intolerance, you don't
//You're a sheep
///Until we fix our farming practices, our food supply will continue to deteriorate

Do you have a source for that?  Because one would presume that soil either does or does not have the nutrients required for wheat to grow.  There really isn't a third option where the wheat grows but isn't actually wheat somehow.


It's still wheat, but it doesn't absorb any nutrients from the soil.  When you don't allow the fields to lie fallow, none of the nutrients get replenished.  There isn't an internet link for a source, but I read about it in this fascinating book:  https://www.goodreads.com/en/b​ook/show​/31915218-grocery

Here's a link on why fallow is important: https://www.gardeningknowh​ow.com/garde​n-how-to/soil-fertilizers/what-is-fall​ow-ground.htm
 
2020-11-29 6:34:23 PM  
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2020-11-29 6:41:32 PM  
Dwarven battle bread?
 
2020-11-29 6:42:11 PM  

NotARocketScientist: rosekolodny: weddingsinger: Its stunning that despite the very food that basically allowed for civilization to develop is magically turned to poison over the last 10 years.

Its almost as if that people have taken something that IS true (a tiny percentage of people are allergic to gluten) and turned it into the thing to blame any or all problems (real or made up).  Feeling tired?  Its not that you're in your 40s now or that you drink too much soda... its gluten!

Civilization developed, sure.  Also teeth got worse and lifespans got shorter.  You can make lots of babies but not live a long life.  YAY.

lol, Wut?
Citation please
Humans are living much longer than they were when civilization was developed, and "toothsome" no longer means good looking because now everyone has teeth.


https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-​n​ews/how-dawn-farming-changed-our-mouth​s-worst-180954167/

We've been doing better lately, probably because we have developed better healthcare practices.  But the rise of agriculture wrought havoc on our mouths and our health.  I can get more citations if you want, but more carbs meant more babies, which meant overall worse living conditions.  There was a rise in porotic hyperostosis, a condition often seen in people with severe parasitic infections.

There wasn't a golden age of humanity that rose out of agriculture.  It f*cked us up for quite some time.
 
2020-11-29 6:46:19 PM  
The wife wants to kill me. We talk about it all the time. We are pretty honest about it. If neither of us kills the other, then all the money we are paying for life insurance might never come back. We know it. We did the math.

She started playing around with my bread machine about 3 months ago "because nobody was using it." That is not a metaphor. And she has started making bagels, rolls, pizza dough, pig in a blanket, those Chinese dumpling things, anpan, and the usual loaves of yeasty goodness.

So I am pretty sure she is ahead on the science. She wants to fatten me up, have me play Santa Claus and then sit me down at about New Year's Day and give me a swift kick to the lower abdomen like that poor slob in SEVEN who died in a plate of Spaghetti-Os.

Which just goes to show you. If you want to get ahead on the "kill your spouse for the life insurance" game, you are going to have to study your science, kids. And start buying those cans of Spaghetti-Os now because, if your grocery store runs out, your whole three month plan could be ruined by a pile of canned goods receipts from every grocery store in the region.
 
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