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(Wisconsin Examiner)   Ever wonder just how many different police agencies have jurisdiction over you? The answer explains why police have tanks and teachers buy their own chalk   (wisconsinexaminer.com) divider line
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2020-11-29 10:31:26 AM  
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/Obligatory
 
2020-11-29 11:10:41 AM  
'Murica.
 
2020-11-29 12:38:18 PM  
Not just teachers.  My friends have a kid in school.  He had to bring in industrial carpet shampoo for the custodial staff.  This was in addition to all supplies he would need for the year, and supplies for the teacher.  His mother had to hunt this stuff down three towns over just so he could lug it to school and hand it over to the janitor.
 
2020-11-29 1:53:22 PM  
Murika! Fark yeah!
 
2020-11-29 1:55:04 PM  
And this is what "defund" the police is all about. But the bootlickers don't get that, and so the overpriced iron grip of the cops continues.
 
2020-11-29 1:55:07 PM  

phalamir: Not just teachers.  My friends have a kid in school.  He had to bring in industrial carpet shampoo for the custodial staff.  This was in addition to all supplies he would need for the year, and supplies for the teacher.  His mother had to hunt this stuff down three towns over just so he could lug it to school and hand it over to the janitor.


Public or private school?
 
2020-11-29 1:55:40 PM  
Murka! Can't even agree on how to spell it.
 
2020-11-29 1:56:22 PM  
This is what Americans want, apparently. If you say 'defund the police' they panic and listen to the talking heads on Fox News saying that you want anarchy and mass murder and kids injecting the soshalisums.  And then vote for the liars keeping them and their kids stupid.
 
2020-11-29 1:57:05 PM  
well, its not called the Education-Industrial Complex
 
2020-11-29 1:57:12 PM  
Why, yes, I have, subby. Why do you ask?
Los Angeles from 9-11 until I got the hell out of Dodge-- WE'RE NEXT!
 
2020-11-29 2:03:28 PM  
Cops don't exist to protect and serve the public anymore. They exist to arrest people. When arresting people is your raison d'etre, you spend all your time looking for people to arrest. When all you do is look for people to arrest, you become an oppressor, not a protector.

Add to this dynamic the prospect of getting money from forfeitures, and you just become part of a shakedown racket.
 
2020-11-29 2:04:37 PM  

toraque: This is what Americans want, apparently. If you say 'defund the police' they panic and listen to the talking heads on Fox News saying that you want anarchy and mass murder and kids injecting the soshalisums.  And then vote for the liars keeping them and their kids stupid.


stupid infected
 
2020-11-29 2:05:34 PM  

toraque: And then vote for the liars keeping them and their kids stupid.


Yeah, we DO keep electing the same idiots.

Reelection rates:
https://www.opensecrets.org/elections​-​overview/reelection-rates

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2020-11-29 2:06:52 PM  

Herr Morgenstern: And this is what "defund" the police is all about. But the bootlickers don't get that, and so the overpriced iron grip of the cops continues.


We need to stop calling them Law Enforcement. They don't actually enforce the law; judges do.

Police are supposed to be peacekeepers*. They don't have a degree in law. Hell, many don't have a degree in anything.

Many of those who bullied me in high school ended up in one side of the law or another. About 1/5 of them ended up being cops. Most of the rest are dead now, actually.

/*No, not these Peacekeepers.
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2020-11-29 2:09:35 PM  
Without the tanks they can't do their jerbs!
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2020-11-29 2:10:12 PM  

Herr Morgenstern: And this is what "defund" the police is all about. But the bootlickers don't get that, and so the overpriced iron grip of the cops continues.


Well, Fark that.  I'm just gonna move to France.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-euro​p​e-55115659

Aw, shiat...
 
2020-11-29 2:11:02 PM  
Here in NY incorporated villages often have their own little police force, like a fleet of two cars for some rich little town population 300 area 1 mile sq. I imagine they don't do much aside from ticket people parked on the street for more than 3 hours or between 2-4 am.

Obviously these cops get paid twice as much as NYPD.

I don't think I have a point.
 
2020-11-29 2:11:42 PM  
I have the opposite problem.

The nearest town won't send their police here, they say call the PA State Police. In the one time in 20 years I've called the State Police, they told me it wasn't their jurisdiction. Blew my mind.

Me: You're the PA State Police...
PASP: yes
Me: ..and my town, which is in Pennsylvania, is not your jurisdiction?
PASP: Correct.
Me Then who do suggest I call?
PASP......
 
2020-11-29 2:12:28 PM  
The cops have to buy their own chalk too.  What's the problem?  I guess we could give teachers tanks to make it equitable.
 
2020-11-29 2:17:10 PM  
Only 600?  According to wiki Texas has 1913.
 
2020-11-29 2:19:36 PM  
"I'm not a natural killer! See this? See what it says? I'm supposed to keep the peace, I am! If I kill people to do it, I'm reading the wrong manual!"

Terry Pratchett, Jingo
 
2020-11-29 2:21:23 PM  
All that surveillance and they haven't caught me yet. I bet that I've destroyed at least 5 pennies in my life, and I should be in jail forever.
 
2020-11-29 2:22:35 PM  
I dislike police overreach as much as any reasonable person, but nobody has pointed out that TFAuthor includes "agencies" such as Milwaukee School of Engineering Public Safety Departmentin his "police agencies operating in Madison, WI" list.

My sister lives in Madison, and if one of the DPS guys from MSE tried to ticket her for rolling a stop in her neighborhood, she'd laugh.

But they wouldn't.

The guy is making a legitimate point, and then completely undermines his own argument by conflating campus police roaming a few city blocks with federal agents conducting plainclothes operations everywhere at all times.
 
2020-11-29 2:28:58 PM  
But think of all the shareholder value of the LEO equipment manufacturers!
 
2020-11-29 2:30:05 PM  
Jurisdictassic Park

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Justice, uh, finds a way
 
2020-11-29 2:30:36 PM  

cepson: Cops don't exist to protect and serve the public anymore. They exist to arrest people.


No, no - police exist to protect and serve ... your masters.
 
2020-11-29 2:32:03 PM  
All of them.. the answer is all of them. Next question?
 
2020-11-29 2:34:12 PM  
Teachers do buy their own chalk. And books for their kids to read. Those are the kinds of things our daughter requests for Christmas presents for her classroom.
 
2020-11-29 2:34:20 PM  
I recall the first time I visited DC.  I got drunk with my Uncle at a piano bar in Alexandria.  We then hopped in the car and drove across to DC, where we drove around in circles around the Ellipse as my Uncle rattled off how many different cops patrolled the area: The Marshalls, The Mint Police, the Secret Service, The National Parks Service, The Park Police, The Capitol Police, etc (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o​f_​law_enforcement_agencies_in_the_Distri​ct_of_Columbia ). None of them pulled us over for being drunk.
 
2020-11-29 2:34:48 PM  

ajgeek: Many of those who bullied me in high school ended up in one side of the law or another. About 1/5 of them ended up being cops


It's not realistic to expect the nerds, dweebs, dorks and twig-boys to go up against the other 4 out of 5.
 
2020-11-29 2:43:21 PM  
Police?!?!

Hahahahahha no. Emphatically no.

Call them what they are: state security forces.
 
2020-11-29 2:43:29 PM  

TomDooley: I recall the first time I visited DC.  I got drunk with my Uncle at a piano bar in Alexandria.  We then hopped in the car and drove across to DC, where we drove around in circles around the Ellipse as my Uncle rattled off how many different cops patrolled the area: The Marshalls, The Mint Police, the Secret Service, The National Parks Service, The Park Police, The Capitol Police, etc (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of​_law_enforcement_agencies_in_the_Distr​ict_of_Columbia ). None of them pulled us over for being drunk.


So both you and your uncle are fine with drunk driving? Cool, cool
 
2020-11-29 2:44:45 PM  
So what happens when these agencies start competing with each other for declining resources?  Turf war between cops?  DNR cops pulling over speeders?  Sec of State Police showing up at domestic disturbances?
 
2020-11-29 2:46:02 PM  

drsewell: Only 600?  According to wiki Texas has 1913.


Hell, metro Houston has at least 60.
 
2020-11-29 2:52:30 PM  

ajgeek: Herr Morgenstern: And this is what "defund" the police is all about. But the bootlickers don't get that, and so the overpriced iron grip of the cops continues.

We need to stop calling them Law Enforcement. They don't actually enforce the law; judges do.

Police are supposed to be peacekeepers*. They don't have a degree in law. Hell, many don't have a degree in anything.

Many of those who bullied me in high school ended up in one side of the law or another. About 1/5 of them ended up being cops. Most of the rest are dead now, actually.

/*No, not these Peacekeepers.
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when i graduated HS the most farked up seriously troubled out of control kid from that class became a police officer in Paterson NJ. that was a huge eye opener at a young age.

i knew another misfit who became a security guard because he loved the wanna-be uniform. he loved being photographed ready for work, smoking a joint.
 
2020-11-29 2:52:53 PM  

grinding_journalist: I dislike police overreach as much as any reasonable person, but nobody has pointed out that TFAuthor includes "agencies" such as Milwaukee School of Engineering Public Safety Departmentin his "police agencies operating in Madison, WI" list.

My sister lives in Madison, and if one of the DPS guys from MSE tried to ticket her for rolling a stop in her neighborhood, she'd laugh.

But they wouldn't.

The guy is making a legitimate point, and then completely undermines his own argument by conflating campus police roaming a few city blocks with federal agents conducting plainclothes operations everywhere at all times.


They also include the IRS.
 
2020-11-29 2:55:03 PM  
 
2020-11-29 2:55:14 PM  
Yes, it would be WAY preferable for the teachers to have the tanks and the cops to have the chalk.

/ for all the bodies the teachers' tanks will run over
 
2020-11-29 2:55:40 PM  
I've been assured by bootlickers that if you have problems with one of the jurisdictions over you just call another.
 
2020-11-29 2:57:01 PM  

grinding_journalist: The guy is making a legitimate point, and then completely undermines his own argument by conflating campus police roaming a few city blocks with federal agents conducting plainclothes operations everywhere at all times.


Campus police can go anywhere they want, I was arrested by them for discussing my college experiences on Reddit. I've had roommates of college professors questioned in their homes.
 
2020-11-29 2:57:59 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: So what happens when these agencies start competing with each other for declining resources?  Turf war between cops?  DNR cops pulling over speeders?  Sec of State Police showing up at domestic disturbances?


The DNR does pull over speeders. They enforce river speed violations, tail speed, etc. in parks.

But unlike normal cops, the redneckbillies HATE them, because "big gubbmint telling me how I can't dynamite my 120 over the limit fish". They don't like the taste of those boots. But put them in blue instead of tan and they line up to suck them toes.
 
2020-11-29 2:58:52 PM  

Madman drummers bummers: Yes, it would be WAY preferable for the teachers to have the tanks and the cops to have the chalk.

/ for all the bodies the teachers' tanks will run over


Cops have chalk too.  How do you think they do the outlines of the bodies on the ground....
 
2020-11-29 3:00:40 PM  

Daedalus27: Madman drummers bummers: Yes, it would be WAY preferable for the teachers to have the tanks and the cops to have the chalk.

/ for all the bodies the teachers' tanks will run over

Cops have chalk too.  How do you think they do the outlines of the bodies on the ground....


With more bodies?
 
2020-11-29 3:02:23 PM  
In DC metro there's all your regular police and then all sorts of feds have police forces with varying degrees of police powers. I don't mean like your traditional feds in law enforcement like the FBI...

I mean strange ones like the Government Printing Office police, Parks Police, Smithsonian Police, supreme court had its own police force until recently even though US marshals usually secure courts (someone actually cut some red tape and folded that into capitol police), there's a US Mint police and a US Bureau of Engraving one (not sure why the two... both under treasury and the secret service also secures their facilities), i think there used to be a special library of congress police until the late early 2000s (i think park police does that now). And so on.

Every other agency has their own cops with police functions that exercises jurisdiction in their facilities, instead of hiring guards. Very few examples like Supreme Court or Library of Congress where someone actually cuts out the red tape and merges duties into one of the dozens of existing police forces.
 
2020-11-29 3:05:29 PM  

AppleOptionEsc: Harry Freakstorm: So what happens when these agencies start competing with each other for declining resources?  Turf war between cops?  DNR cops pulling over speeders?  Sec of State Police showing up at domestic disturbances?

The DNR does pull over speeders. They enforce river speed violations, tail speed, etc. in parks.

But unlike normal cops, the redneckbillies HATE them, because "big gubbmint telling me how I can't dynamite my 120 over the limit fish". They don't like the taste of those boots. But put them in blue instead of tan and they line up to suck them toes.


A few years back, the Missouri DNR was citing boaters for having expired tags on the boat trailers.  Of course the rage for the tv cameras included Cleetus saying " we just come down ta da river to relax and now I gots a ticket. Unfairs"
 
2020-11-29 3:14:33 PM  
Just in the City of Madison there are 15 law enforcement agencies operating. There's the Madison Police Department, Dane County Sheriff's Office, State Capitol Police, UW-Madison Police, VA hospital Police, FBI, DEA, ATF, Secret Service, U.S. Marshals, IRS investigators, Wisconsin DNR law enforcement, Wisconsin DOR investigators, State Patrol and Wisconsin DOJ agents

SMALL GUBMINT NAOW!
 
2020-11-29 3:16:54 PM  
The Deputy Director of Operations for Joint Systems Interdepartmental Operational Command (DDO-JSIOC) laughs at your attempts at law enforcement.
 
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2020-11-29 3:17:16 PM  
Train tracks run through the town where I live so the transit police have general law enforcement jurisdiction anywhere in the town.
 
2020-11-29 3:17:59 PM  

YouPeopleAreCrazy: toraque: And then vote for the liars keeping them and their kids stupid.

Yeah, we DO keep electing the same idiots.

Reelection rates:
https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-​overview/reelection-rates

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What happened to the senate '76 to '80?
 
2020-11-29 3:21:04 PM  

Resident Muslim: YouPeopleAreCrazy: toraque: And then vote for the liars keeping them and their kids stupid.

Yeah, we DO keep electing the same idiots.

Reelection rates:
https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-​overview/reelection-rates

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What happened to the senate '76 to '80?


Nixon was impeached in 74.  Either a lot of folk decided to retire for their health or something was stinky and were voted out.

Or southern strategy. I really don't know.
 
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