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2020-11-29 10:31:12 AM  
Okay, I get the whole "NFL-ready" thing, but how bad could playing in front of no fans in the Mausoleum or at Cal be??
 
2020-11-29 10:33:22 AM  

FriarReb98: Okay, I get the whole "NFL-ready" thing, but how bad could playing in front of no fans in the Mausoleum or at Cal be??


Maybe the Oakland Coliseum or the SF Giants' ballpark? They are in different counties.
 
2020-11-29 10:36:39 AM  

FriarReb98: how bad could playing in front of no fans in the Mausoleum be??


Can't be that bad; the Oakland Athletics have won their share of games that way.
 
2020-11-29 10:38:07 AM  

kdawg7736: Maybe the SF Giants' ballpark?


San Francisco clearly has no interest in the 49ers playing there.
 
2020-11-29 10:39:58 AM  
Is this the thread where I petition for a name change to the Santa Clara 49ers?
 
2020-11-29 10:41:01 AM  
The NFL already banned practice Monday and Tuesday, while allowing teams to complete this week's games. I wonder if they will be going into a forced 2-3 week break after Tuesday.
 
2020-11-29 10:43:24 AM  

FriarReb98: Okay, I get the whole "NFL-ready" thing, but how bad could playing in front of no fans in the Mausoleum or at Cal be??


Wont be anywhere in CA. They are gonna end up in shiat hole state like South Dakota or Iowa.

Get ready for the Rapid City 49ers
 
2020-11-29 10:43:53 AM  

Gubbo: Is this the thread where I petition for a name change to the Santa Clara 49ers?


The Milpitas Miners?
 
2020-11-29 10:44:02 AM  

kdawg7736: Maybe the Oakland Coliseum or the SF Giants' ballpark? They are in different counties.


Mausoleum=Oakland Coliseum. It wouldn't be pretty but it's the closest.

The pretty part, fwiw, is probably why it isn't being thought of. Wonder about the Galaxy's park that the Chargers played with the last two years too. (Sadly, as the lot is already being torn up in anticipation of it being torn down, San Diego Stadium is not an option.)
 
2020-11-29 10:50:30 AM  

Ass_Master_Flash: FriarReb98: Okay, I get the whole "NFL-ready" thing, but how bad could playing in front of no fans in the Mausoleum or at Cal be??

Wont be anywhere in CA. They are gonna end up in shiat hole state like South Dakota or Iowa.

Get ready for the Rapid City 49ers


Make it the Rapid City Monuments and just go all in on the disaster motif.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2020-11-29 10:51:45 AM  
They could play at the Meadowlands or Ford Field. Both New Jersey and Detroit are starving for professional football.
 
2020-11-29 10:54:40 AM  

jbc: They could play at the Meadowlands or Ford Field. Both New Jersey and Detroit are starving for professional football.


I'm not sure that this current injury plagued 49ers team is much of an improvement
 
2020-11-29 11:27:21 AM  

Gubbo: jbc: They could play at the Meadowlands or Ford Field. Both New Jersey and Detroit are starving for professional football.

I'm not sure that this current injury plagued 49ers team is much of an improvement


The Meadowlands caused like half these injuries.
 
2020-11-29 11:35:06 AM  
all sports should have been shut down for the duration of the pandemic as they are decidedly non essential. Apologies to sports fans everywhere.
 
2020-11-29 11:38:22 AM  
The NFL really needs to consider shutting everything down for a week. It won't happen because $, but it's probably the only thing that might get this under control
 
2020-11-29 11:40:53 AM  

pastramithemosterotic: The NFL really needs to consider shutting everything down for a week. It won't happen because $, but it's probably the only thing that might get this under control


The league very specifically planned for a completely normal regular season. And dammit, 31 billionaires aren't just going to admit they were wrong, and possibly cost themselves money to boot.
 
2020-11-29 11:49:45 AM  

Gubbo: pastramithemosterotic: The NFL really needs to consider shutting everything down for a week. It won't happen because $, but it's probably the only thing that might get this under control

The league very specifically planned for a completely normal regular season. And dammit, 31 billionaires aren't just going to admit they were wrong, and possibly cost themselves money to boot.


Meanwhile, allthe QB's on the Broncos' active roster have tested positive for COVID-19, and they're having to start the guy from their practice squad.

This is becoming a sad, tragic joke.
 
2020-11-29 11:50:16 AM  
Since there are no fans they should be able to just play in high school stadiums.
 
2020-11-29 11:51:01 AM  

pastramithemosterotic: The NFL really needs to consider shutting everything down for a week. It won't happen because $, but it's probably the only thing that might get this under control


The NFL needs to shut down for more than a week. It would suck as a fan of a team who is playing well and currently leading their division, but there are more important things than sportsball, even if I happen to love it. Of course, there's no way the team owners (and Mark Murphy, in the case of the Packers) are going to agree to it, so the players are essentially cannon fodder.
 
2020-11-29 11:53:40 AM  

Coco LaFemme: pastramithemosterotic: The NFL really needs to consider shutting everything down for a week. It won't happen because $, but it's probably the only thing that might get this under control

The NFL needs to shut down for more than a week. It would suck as a fan of a team who is playing well and currently leading their division, but there are more important things than sportsball, even if I happen to love it. Of course, there's no way the team owners (and Mark Murphy, in the case of the Packers) are going to agree to it, so the players are essentially cannon fodder.


I think the fact that the NBA, NHL, and MLB finished their seasons made the NFL overconfident.  In the case of the NBA and NHL, they only finished by putting everyone in a bubble.  And the MLB got lucky and got their season in between surges of COVID-19.  And in all those cases, far few people travel with or work for a NBA, NHL, or even MLB team than a NFL team.
 
2020-11-29 12:14:50 PM  
Shut the NFL down for 2 - 4 weeks.  All players, coaches, staff must quarantine and get tested.  Anyone breaks quarantine without approval (mainly for medical attention) is suspended the rest of the season.  Otherwise it is going to get worse before it [maybe] gets better.
 
2020-11-29 12:16:51 PM  

Ponzholio: Since there are no fans they should be able to just play in high school stadiums.


Seriously, just find a field and swap out the goal posts.

Or just play at the practice facilities.  The locker rooms might suck, but meh.
 
2020-11-29 12:20:50 PM  

jake_lex: Coco LaFemme: pastramithemosterotic: The NFL really needs to consider shutting everything down for a week. It won't happen because $, but it's probably the only thing that might get this under control

The NFL needs to shut down for more than a week. It would suck as a fan of a team who is playing well and currently leading their division, but there are more important things than sportsball, even if I happen to love it. Of course, there's no way the team owners (and Mark Murphy, in the case of the Packers) are going to agree to it, so the players are essentially cannon fodder.

I think the fact that the NBA, NHL, and MLB finished their seasons made the NFL overconfident.  In the case of the NBA and NHL, they only finished by putting everyone in a bubble.  And the MLB got lucky and got their season in between surges of COVID-19.  And in all those cases, far few people travel with or work for a NBA, NHL, or even MLB team than a NFL team.


MLB had a fairly decent idea of how to handle positives, how long they wanted teams to be isolated for before they could play again, and a practice squad to call up replacements from. And even with that, they had to change things part of the way through the season and institute more stringent chaperoning measures where players had to adhere to behavior standards. Mostly, like you said, they got lucky. And they were willing to shut down a couple teams for a week or more when necessary.

The NFL's policy seems to be a bunch of shrugs. Why are the Broncos playing today? What level of exposure and positives constitutes a postponement or cancellation? These questions should have answers.
 
2020-11-29 12:21:26 PM  

Gubbo: Is this the thread where I petition for a name change to the Santa Clara 49ers?


Arlington-Frisco Cowboys, too.
 
2020-11-29 12:23:49 PM  

Ponzholio: Since there are no fans they should be able to just play in high school stadiums.


The league still needs a few things. They will need tv solutions. And they will need an instant replay setup. And they will need some radio spectrum clearances for their game day communications on the field.

Turns out that even without fans, there's a lot that goes into playing an NFL game. Best bet is to use an existing NFL stadium.
 
2020-11-29 12:29:08 PM  

Gubbo: pastramithemosterotic: The NFL really needs to consider shutting everything down for a week. It won't happen because $, but it's probably the only thing that might get this under control

The league very specifically planned for a completely normal regular season. And dammit, 31 billionaires aren't just going to admit they were wrong, and possibly cost themselves money to boot.


I'm curious about using the number 31. Is there an ownership group that controls 2 teams? Is one team's owner not a billionaire? Did one owner vote against playing the NFL season this year?
 
2020-11-29 12:32:55 PM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: Gubbo: pastramithemosterotic: The NFL really needs to consider shutting everything down for a week. It won't happen because $, but it's probably the only thing that might get this under control

The league very specifically planned for a completely normal regular season. And dammit, 31 billionaires aren't just going to admit they were wrong, and possibly cost themselves money to boot.

I'm curious about using the number 31. Is there an ownership group that controls 2 teams? Is one team's owner not a billionaire? Did one owner vote against playing the NFL season this year?


The Jets' owner.  He knew going in that he wouldn't be able to field an NFL team.  As usual.
 
2020-11-29 12:36:13 PM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: Gubbo: pastramithemosterotic: The NFL really needs to consider shutting everything down for a week. It won't happen because $, but it's probably the only thing that might get this under control

The league very specifically planned for a completely normal regular season. And dammit, 31 billionaires aren't just going to admit they were wrong, and possibly cost themselves money to boot.

I'm curious about using the number 31. Is there an ownership group that controls 2 teams? Is one team's owner not a billionaire? Did one owner vote against playing the NFL season this year?


A quick search looks like 30 billionaire owners.

Martha Ford of the Lions and Mark Davis of the Raiders.
 
151
2020-11-29 12:40:11 PM  

Ponzholio: Eddie Hazel's E string: Gubbo: pastramithemosterotic: The NFL really needs to consider shutting everything down for a week. It won't happen because $, but it's probably the only thing that might get this under control

The league very specifically planned for a completely normal regular season. And dammit, 31 billionaires aren't just going to admit they were wrong, and possibly cost themselves money to boot.

I'm curious about using the number 31. Is there an ownership group that controls 2 teams? Is one team's owner not a billionaire? Did one owner vote against playing the NFL season this year?

A quick search looks like 30 billionaire owners.

Martha Ford of the Lions and Mark Davis of the Raiders.


Martha doesn't own the team anymore, get daughter Sheila took over.

Still not a billionaire either, just saying.
 
151
2020-11-29 12:40:31 PM  
Her* daughter...
 
2020-11-29 12:43:11 PM  

Ponzholio: Eddie Hazel's E string: Gubbo: pastramithemosterotic: The NFL really needs to consider shutting everything down for a week. It won't happen because $, but it's probably the only thing that might get this under control

The league very specifically planned for a completely normal regular season. And dammit, 31 billionaires aren't just going to admit they were wrong, and possibly cost themselves money to boot.

I'm curious about using the number 31. Is there an ownership group that controls 2 teams? Is one team's owner not a billionaire? Did one owner vote against playing the NFL season this year?

A quick search looks like 30 billionaire owners.

Martha Ford of the Lions and Mark Davis of the Raiders.


I think the original post was accounting for the fact that the Packers are community owned
 
2020-11-29 12:43:52 PM  

Ponzholio: Eddie Hazel's E string: Gubbo: pastramithemosterotic: The NFL really needs to consider shutting everything down for a week. It won't happen because $, but it's probably the only thing that might get this under control

The league very specifically planned for a completely normal regular season. And dammit, 31 billionaires aren't just going to admit they were wrong, and possibly cost themselves money to boot.

I'm curious about using the number 31. Is there an ownership group that controls 2 teams? Is one team's owner not a billionaire? Did one owner vote against playing the NFL season this year?

A quick search looks like 30 billionaire owners.

Martha Ford of the Lions and Mark Davis of the Raiders.


What about the Packers? That's who I assumed was the non-billionaire owner.
 
2020-11-29 12:44:20 PM  
So the NHL lost an entire season through a lockout and while obviously it was bad for everyone, none of the teams have folded. The NHL remains regionally-popular. The NFL itself has survived strikes, lockout, and even the horror of replacement players. It remains absurdly popular. The League could have survived cancelling the season.
 
2020-11-29 12:49:00 PM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: Gubbo: pastramithemosterotic: The NFL really needs to consider shutting everything down for a week. It won't happen because $, but it's probably the only thing that might get this under control

The league very specifically planned for a completely normal regular season. And dammit, 31 billionaires aren't just going to admit they were wrong, and possibly cost themselves money to boot.

I'm curious about using the number 31. Is there an ownership group that controls 2 teams? Is one team's owner not a billionaire? Did one owner vote against playing the NFL season this year?


Packers don't have an owner per-se
 
2020-11-29 12:50:12 PM  

151: Ponzholio: Eddie Hazel's E string: Gubbo: pastramithemosterotic: The NFL really needs to consider shutting everything down for a week. It won't happen because $, but it's probably the only thing that might get this under control

The league very specifically planned for a completely normal regular season. And dammit, 31 billionaires aren't just going to admit they were wrong, and possibly cost themselves money to boot.

I'm curious about using the number 31. Is there an ownership group that controls 2 teams? Is one team's owner not a billionaire? Did one owner vote against playing the NFL season this year?

A quick search looks like 30 billionaire owners.

Martha Ford of the Lions and Mark Davis of the Raiders.

Martha doesn't own the team anymore, get daughter Sheila took over.

Still not a billionaire either, just saying.


You own an asset worth at least 2 billion. You're a billionaire owner.
 
2020-11-29 12:50:42 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: So the NHL lost an entire season through a lockout and while obviously it was bad for everyone, none of the teams have folded. The NHL remains regionally-popular. The NFL itself has survived strikes, lockout, and even the horror of replacement players. It remains absurdly popular. The League could have survived cancelling the season.


This neatly ignores the fear the NFL has of Pee-Resident Donald Trump tweeting mean things about them and thus turning his 73 million voting cult members away from the league and into watching the Trump Football League on TrumpTV.
 
2020-11-29 12:50:46 PM  

grimlock1972: all sports should have been shut down for the duration of the pandemic as they are decidedly non essential. Apologies to sports fans everywhere.


The NBA handled things very well. That is the pattern leagues need to take. What the NFL and NCAA Football are doing is farking idiotic.
 
151
2020-11-29 12:51:16 PM  

Gubbo: 151: Ponzholio: Eddie Hazel's E string: Gubbo: pastramithemosterotic: The NFL really needs to consider shutting everything down for a week. It won't happen because $, but it's probably the only thing that might get this under control

The league very specifically planned for a completely normal regular season. And dammit, 31 billionaires aren't just going to admit they were wrong, and possibly cost themselves money to boot.

I'm curious about using the number 31. Is there an ownership group that controls 2 teams? Is one team's owner not a billionaire? Did one owner vote against playing the NFL season this year?

A quick search looks like 30 billionaire owners.

Martha Ford of the Lions and Mark Davis of the Raiders.

Martha doesn't own the team anymore, get daughter Sheila took over.

Still not a billionaire either, just saying.

You own an asset worth at least 2 billion. You're a billionaire owner.


1.75B, but fair point
 
2020-11-29 12:51:50 PM  

jake_lex: Gubbo: pastramithemosterotic: The NFL really needs to consider shutting everything down for a week. It won't happen because $, but it's probably the only thing that might get this under control

The league very specifically planned for a completely normal regular season. And dammit, 31 billionaires aren't just going to admit they were wrong, and possibly cost themselves money to boot.

Meanwhile, allthe QB's on the Broncos' active roster have tested positive for COVID-19, and they're having to start the guy from their practice squad.

This is becoming a sad, tragic joke.


They are starting a practice squad receiver at quarterback.
 
151
2020-11-29 12:52:18 PM  

151: Gubbo: 151: Ponzholio: Eddie Hazel's E string: Gubbo: pastramithemosterotic: The NFL really needs to consider shutting everything down for a week. It won't happen because $, but it's probably the only thing that might get this under control

The league very specifically planned for a completely normal regular season. And dammit, 31 billionaires aren't just going to admit they were wrong, and possibly cost themselves money to boot.

I'm curious about using the number 31. Is there an ownership group that controls 2 teams? Is one team's owner not a billionaire? Did one owner vote against playing the NFL season this year?

A quick search looks like 30 billionaire owners.

Martha Ford of the Lions and Mark Davis of the Raiders.

Martha doesn't own the team anymore, get daughter Sheila took over.

Still not a billionaire either, just saying.

You own an asset worth at least 2 billion. You're a billionaire owner.

1.75B, but fair point


Whoops, that was an old number. 2.1 now. I'll continue shutting up.
 
2020-11-29 12:53:21 PM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: Gubbo: pastramithemosterotic: The NFL really needs to consider shutting everything down for a week. It won't happen because $, but it's probably the only thing that might get this under control

The league very specifically planned for a completely normal regular season. And dammit, 31 billionaires aren't just going to admit they were wrong, and possibly cost themselves money to boot.

I'm curious about using the number 31. Is there an ownership group that controls 2 teams? Is one team's owner not a billionaire? Did one owner vote against playing the NFL season this year?


The Packers do not have a single owner. They are a fan-owned team.
 
2020-11-29 1:04:07 PM  

151: 151: Gubbo: 151: Ponzholio: Eddie Hazel's E string: Gubbo: pastramithemosterotic: The NFL really needs to consider shutting everything down for a week. It won't happen because $, but it's probably the only thing that might get this under control

The league very specifically planned for a completely normal regular season. And dammit, 31 billionaires aren't just going to admit they were wrong, and possibly cost themselves money to boot.

I'm curious about using the number 31. Is there an ownership group that controls 2 teams? Is one team's owner not a billionaire? Did one owner vote against playing the NFL season this year?

A quick search looks like 30 billionaire owners.

Martha Ford of the Lions and Mark Davis of the Raiders.

Martha doesn't own the team anymore, get daughter Sheila took over.

Still not a billionaire either, just saying.

You own an asset worth at least 2 billion. You're a billionaire owner.

1.75B, but fair point

Whoops, that was an old number. 2.1 now. I'll continue shutting up.


And that's for historically one of the worst teams in the league.

Although how good your team is has surprisingly little relevance to it's value as the Redskins are probably top 3 most valuable
 
2020-11-29 1:23:51 PM  

FriarReb98: kdawg7736: Maybe the Oakland Coliseum or the SF Giants' ballpark? They are in different counties.

Mausoleum=Oakland Coliseum. It wouldn't be pretty but it's the closest.

The pretty part, fwiw, is probably why it isn't being thought of. Wonder about the Galaxy's park that the Chargers played with the last two years too. (Sadly, as the lot is already being torn up in anticipation of it being torn down, San Diego Stadium is not an option.)


LA County just announced a "stay at home you guys pretty please I'm serious guys where are you going?" order effective Monday until December 20, with no explicit mention of competitive sports, so I'm not sure whether Home Depot Center Dignity Health Sports Park would be available or not.
 
2020-11-29 1:26:10 PM  

null: AliceBToklasLives: So the NHL lost an entire season through a lockout and while obviously it was bad for everyone, none of the teams have folded. The NHL remains regionally-popular. The NFL itself has survived strikes, lockout, and even the horror of replacement players. It remains absurdly popular. The League could have survived cancelling the season.

This neatly ignores the fear the NFL has of Pee-Resident Donald Trump tweeting mean things about them and thus turning his 73 million voting cult members away from the league and into watching the Trump Football League on TrumpTV.


Counterpoint: we are talking about a 'businessman' who failed to sell steak, gambling and football to Americans.
 
2020-11-29 1:35:57 PM  
This was always going to be the issue; different states, different counties even doing vastly different things. They can't play in Santa Clara, but could in LA County. You have to wear a mask on the field in PA, but not in VA, etc.

NFL should have identified a couple places in different states to hold games in the event this kind of thing happened.
 
2020-11-29 2:05:10 PM  
Aren't the Packers owned by Green Bay?

If the 49rs are homeless in San Francisco, are they allowed to poop on the field?
 
2020-11-29 2:55:08 PM  
Throw on some retro uniforms, and play at Kezar. It still exists in Golden Gate Park, and there's no need to set up for crowds.

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2020-11-29 3:48:23 PM  
jake_lex:

Meanwhile, allthe QB's on the Broncos' active roster have tested positive for COVID-19, and they're having to start the guy from their practice squad.

This is becoming a sad, tragic joke.


Wrong. They have not all tested positive, but some were in close contact and thus had to stay home per the NFL's COVID restrictions.

And headline is stupid. A county in CA banning athletic competition should shut down the NFL? As said many times, mve the team...which is what they are doing for the time being.
 
2020-11-29 4:43:36 PM  

meanmutton: grimlock1972: all sports should have been shut down for the duration of the pandemic as they are decidedly non essential. Apologies to sports fans everywhere.

The NBA handled things very well. That is the pattern leagues need to take. What the NFL and NCAA Football are doing is farking idiotic.


The NBA has a far smaller roster size than any other pro sport in the US and Globally so it was far easier to isolate them and they also have the easiest type of stadium to locate.   Even they did not have the entire league in the bubble

I still think it's best sports be shut down for the duration as their is mountains of evidence it that other than the NBA in a unique situation it cannot be done with out sizable portions of the league getting infected and causing untold issues.  I feel bad for the athletes and coaches  especially on the collegiate and high school levels but if we want to get the pandemic under control harsh measures are needed, harsher than may have been necessary if strong steps had been taken to head it off early on.
 
2020-11-29 6:05:37 PM  

grimlock1972: all sports should have been shut down for the duration of the pandemic as they are decidedly non essential. Apologies to sports fans everywhere.


You're not wrong, unless they can/would enforce a bubble.
 
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