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2020-11-29 3:52:17 AM  
What, no Lethal Weapon?
 
2020-11-29 5:43:38 AM  
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2020-11-29 6:20:28 AM  
Oh look, it's this debate again,

Point 1: There are movies about Christmas and movies that take place during Christmas. Gremlins, Die Hard, and Lethal Weapon are all movies that take place duringChristmas, but are not aboutChristmas. The Lion, The Witch, And The Wardrobe even has Father Christmas handing out presents and it's not considered a Christmas movie.

Point 2: No less an authority on Die Hard than Bruce Willis set this debate straight by saying it was not a.Christmas movie, it was "a Bruce Willis movie".

Point 3: Bad Santa for the win.
 
2020-11-29 6:27:23 AM  
Hocus Pocus is both a Halloween and Christmas tradition
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2020-11-29 7:03:00 AM  
Jingle All The Way Pitch Meeting
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2020-11-29 7:15:08 AM  
Not even on the list. Disgraceful.

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2020-11-29 7:15:24 AM  
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2020-11-29 8:08:13 AM  

Winterlight: Oh look, it's this debate again,

Point 1: There are movies about Christmas and movies that take place during Christmas. Gremlins, Die Hard, and Lethal Weapon are all movies that take place duringChristmas, but are not aboutChristmas. The Lion, The Witch, And The Wardrobe even has Father Christmas handing out presents and it's not considered a Christmas movie.

Point 2: No less an authority on Die Hard than Bruce Willis set this debate straight by saying it was not a.Christmas movie, it was "a Bruce Willis movie".

Point 3: Bad Santa for the win.


Bad Santa was just farking depressing. A sad drunk who would obviously get fired from his Santa job in a real mall in real life and some poor kid who was neglected.  There really wasn't anything funny about it.

I will still vote Die Hard. The scene where the FBI guys are laughing about how the terrorists are pissing in their pants cut to "Ode to Joy" while Alan Rickman watches the vault open couldn't have been done in a non-Christmas movie.
 
2020-11-29 8:11:44 AM  
Indepence Day.  Duh
 
2020-11-29 9:22:38 AM  
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Guess we're still distancing ourselves from Spacey.
 
2020-11-29 9:23:58 AM  
I view a Christmas movie as one that only runs/makes sense to watch during the Christmas holidays.

My vote, A Christmas Carol, with Alastair Sim. The black & white version, not the colorized crap version.

Written in 1843 by Dickens, interesting how the themes in the story align with much of what is going on in the world today. Although I don't expect an awakening by any political or business leaders any time soon.

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2020-11-29 9:29:03 AM  
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2020-11-29 9:31:52 AM  

bifster: I view a Christmas movie as one that only runs/makes sense to watch during the Christmas holidays.

My vote, A Christmas Carol, with Alastair Sim. The black & white version, not the colorized crap version.

Written in 1843 by Dickens, interesting how the themes in the story align with much of what is going on in the world today. Although I don't expect an awakening by any political or business leaders any time soon.

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https://www.nypl.org/blog/2014/12/19/​p​odcast-neil-gaiman-christmas

Neil Gaiman reads the entirety of Dickens' own annotated presentation copy of the story.

Happy Holidays!
 
2020-11-29 9:41:34 AM  

bifster: I view a Christmas movie as one that only runs/makes sense to watch during the Christmas holidays.

My vote, A Christmas Carol, with Alastair Sim. The black & white version, not the colorized crap version.

Written in 1843 by Dickens, interesting how the themes in the story align with much of what is going on in the world today. Although I don't expect an awakening by any political or business leaders any time soon.

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If I'm not mistaken, the title of that movie is "Scrooge" although it does follow much of Dickens' story, with a few additions such as the reason for the death of Fan, Scrooge's sister, etc.

//Still my favorite Christmas movie that I watch every year.
 
2020-11-29 9:45:21 AM  

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Guess we're still distancing ourselves from Spacey.


Great movie.
People can cancel all they want, some great artists are still going to be assholes.
 
2020-11-29 9:48:33 AM  
It's a toss-up...

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2020-11-29 9:49:49 AM  
My favourite Christmas movie is Brazil. While the plot has nothing to do with Christmas, like Die Hard it takes place at Christmas, so it must be a Christmas movie too.


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2020-11-29 9:52:41 AM  
Die Hard is not a farking Xmas movie.  It's a stupid internet trend that caught steam and caught a life of its own.
 
2020-11-29 9:59:31 AM  

bifster: I view a Christmas movie as one that only runs/makes sense to watch during the Christmas holidays.

My vote, A Christmas Carol, with Alastair Sim. The black & white version, not the colorized crap version.

Written in 1843 by Dickens, interesting how the themes in the story align with much of what is going on in the world today. Although I don't expect an awakening by any political or business leaders any time soon.

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I personally prefer the Finney version but the Sim version is undeniably a classic.

/CSB: Finney's Scrooge is the only musical I like.
 
2020-11-29 10:01:57 AM  
No true Scotsman much? It's not a Christmas film unless it shows what happened to Mary's placenta.
 
2020-11-29 10:03:51 AM  
It seems some of the obvious ones were missed.....

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2020-11-29 10:04:40 AM  
List fails completely. They had the bad remake of Miracle on 34th Street instead of the much better original with Natalie Wood, Maureen O'Hara and Edmund Gwenn. My favorite Christmas movie which I always watch Thanksgiving weekend to kick off the season (since it starts at Thanksgiving)

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2020-11-29 10:05:45 AM  

Tyrosine: I personally prefer the Finney version but the Sim version is undeniably a classic.

/CSB: Finney's Scrooge is the only musical I like.



Albert Finney Scrooge is best Scrooge.

Thank you very much,
Thank you very much,
That's the nicest thing that anyone's ever done for me


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2020-11-29 10:08:30 AM  

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Guess we're still distancing ourselves from Spacey.


That film was great.

"Your husband ain't dead, lady. He's hiding."
 
2020-11-29 10:10:26 AM  

natural316: Die Hard is not a farking Xmas movie.  It's a stupid internet trend that caught steam and caught a life of its own.


Die Hard - It's Christmas Theo
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2020-11-29 10:13:09 AM  

natural316: Die Hard is not a farking Xmas movie.  It's a stupid internet trend that caught steam and caught a life of its own.


Aldo.

Mr Joshua isn't a fan of Christmas
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2020-11-29 10:14:34 AM  

natural316: Die Hard is not a farking Xmas movie.  It's a stupid internet trend that caught steam and caught a life of its own.


Also.
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2020-11-29 10:17:12 AM  

natural316: Die Hard is not a farking Xmas movie.  It's a stupid internet trend that caught steam and caught a life of its own.


How is it not a Christmas movie? It takes place at Christmas. Several of the scenes couldn't have happened if it wasn't Christmas. You can argue that Lethal Weapon isn't a Christmas movie but Die Hard was considered a Christmas movie long before the "internet trend".
 
2020-11-29 10:18:27 AM  
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Does this not just scream X-mas cheer?
 
2020-11-29 10:21:11 AM  

Mugato: natural316: Die Hard is not a farking Xmas movie.  It's a stupid internet trend that caught steam and caught a life of its own.

How is it not a Christmas movie? It takes place at Christmas. Several of the scenes couldn't have happened if it wasn't Christmas. You can argue that Lethal Weapon isn't a Christmas movie but Die Hard was considered a Christmas movie long before the "internet trend".


It takes place during Christmas, but the movie is about a failed robbery stopped by an out-of-place cop. There's no "Christmas message", ergo, not a movie about Christmas. It could have been set during any holiday period (they needed the building mostly empty) without changing the story.
 
2020-11-29 10:21:13 AM  

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Does this not just scream X-mas cheer?


It's more sincere and real than that saccharine crap we get from Hallmark channel.
 
2020-11-29 10:21:57 AM  
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2020-11-29 10:23:24 AM  

Winterlight: Mugato: natural316: Die Hard is not a farking Xmas movie.  It's a stupid internet trend that caught steam and caught a life of its own.

How is it not a Christmas movie? It takes place at Christmas. Several of the scenes couldn't have happened if it wasn't Christmas. You can argue that Lethal Weapon isn't a Christmas movie but Die Hard was considered a Christmas movie long before the "internet trend".

It takes place during Christmas, but the movie is about a failed robbery stopped by an out-of-place cop. There's no "Christmas message", ergo, not a movie about Christmas. It could have been set during any holiday period (they needed the building mostly empty) without changing the story.


Sure there is, it's about families being together, what is more Christmassy than an estranged family reuniting for the holidays.

You want outdated old timey christmas go watch Charlie Brown again.
 
2020-11-29 10:28:01 AM  
Ernest Saves Christmas > A Christmas Story
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2020-11-29 10:29:10 AM  

rummonkey: Sure there is, it's about families being together, what is more Christmassy than an estranged family reuniting for the holidays.


Except they family didn't stay together past this end of the movie (watch the sequels), and a whole bunch of people died violent deaths. Not much of a Christmas theme to me.
 
2020-11-29 10:30:18 AM  
I caught this on cable yesterday and hadn't seen it in a while, but the holiday season is quite prominent in it.  I can't remember if people still hate it, though (I think it's entertaining enough).
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2020-11-29 10:31:49 AM  

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Is it too soon to pick the fight that Christmas is more Viking/pagan then Chrustian? I like those fights.
 
2020-11-29 10:32:34 AM  

rummonkey: Winterlight: Mugato: natural316: Die Hard is not a farking Xmas movie.  It's a stupid internet trend that caught steam and caught a life of its own.

How is it not a Christmas movie? It takes place at Christmas. Several of the scenes couldn't have happened if it wasn't Christmas. You can argue that Lethal Weapon isn't a Christmas movie but Die Hard was considered a Christmas movie long before the "internet trend".

It takes place during Christmas, but the movie is about a failed robbery stopped by an out-of-place cop. There's no "Christmas message", ergo, not a movie about Christmas. It could have been set during any holiday period (they needed the building mostly empty) without changing the story.

Sure there is, it's about families being together, what is more Christmassy than an estranged family reuniting for the holidays.

You want outdated old timey christmas go watch Charlie Brown again.


The film could have been about an estranged husband coming to see his wife and kids for an office party celebrating the Dow going up and it would have just the same impact.

/that was sarcasm
//most actual Christmas movies suck
///National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation was pretty good, didn't hold up to the original
 
2020-11-29 10:34:49 AM  

Winterlight: rummonkey: Sure there is, it's about families being together, what is more Christmassy than an estranged family reuniting for the holidays.

Except they family didn't stay together past this end of the movie (watch the sequels), and a whole bunch of people died violent deaths. Not much of a Christmas theme to me.


They were still together in the second film.

CarnySaur: I caught this on cable yesterday and hadn't seen it in a while, but the holiday season is quite prominent in it.  I can't remember if people still hate it, though (I think it's entertaining enough).
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Great, underrated film. The usually goofy Geena Davis was smoking hot.
 
2020-11-29 10:38:33 AM  

Mugato: rummonkey: Winterlight: Mugato: natural316: Die Hard is not a farking Xmas movie.  It's a stupid internet trend that caught steam and caught a life of its own.

How is it not a Christmas movie? It takes place at Christmas. Several of the scenes couldn't have happened if it wasn't Christmas. You can argue that Lethal Weapon isn't a Christmas movie but Die Hard was considered a Christmas movie long before the "internet trend".

It takes place during Christmas, but the movie is about a failed robbery stopped by an out-of-place cop. There's no "Christmas message", ergo, not a movie about Christmas. It could have been set during any holiday period (they needed the building mostly empty) without changing the story.

Sure there is, it's about families being together, what is more Christmassy than an estranged family reuniting for the holidays.

You want outdated old timey christmas go watch Charlie Brown again.

The film could have been about an estranged husband coming to see his wife and kids for an office party celebrating the Dow going up and it would have just the same impact.

/that was sarcasm
//most actual Christmas movies suck
///National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation was pretty good, didn't hold up to the original


I actually don't like Christmas Vacation very much. Chevy Chase's character is an unlikeable bore that actually epitomizes is some of the worst Tendencies of the holiday season all the while trying to cover it up with fake cheer for the holidays. Add on to that that Chevy Chase is an awful human being and the movie in general is okay at best but mainly for The Supporting Cast.
 
2020-11-29 10:41:37 AM  

Winterlight: rummonkey: Sure there is, it's about families being together, what is more Christmassy than an estranged family reuniting for the holidays.

Except they family didn't stay together past this end of the movie (watch the sequels), and a whole bunch of people died violent deaths. Not much of a Christmas theme to me.


So? Jesus whipped a bunch of bankers and flipped their tables over. Sometimes you have to break a couple eggs to make some eggnog.
 
2020-11-29 10:50:10 AM  

rummonkey: I actually don't like Christmas Vacation very much. Chevy Chase's character is an unlikeable bore that actually epitomizes is some of the worst Tendencies of the holiday season all the while trying to cover it up with fake cheer for the holidays. Add on to that that Chevy Chase is an awful human being and the movie in general is okay at best but mainly for The Supporting Cast.


I'm grading on a curve since almost every sequel to a comedy movie sucks. It had some few good moments but it doesn't hold up to the original. And it was a PG-13 so no Beverly D'Angelo boobs.
 
2020-11-29 10:52:00 AM  

Mugato: Winterlight: rummonkey: Sure there is, it's about families being together, what is more Christmassy than an estranged family reuniting for the holidays.

Except they family didn't stay together past this end of the movie (watch the sequels), and a whole bunch of people died violent deaths. Not much of a Christmas theme to me.

They were still together in the second film.



The parents may have been talking to one another, which is a step above estrangement, but I wouldn't call the family "together".

And in the fourth one they made a big deal about the daughter using her mother's last name and not speaking to her dad until she realizes he is going to save her. Suddenly she's a McClane again.
 
2020-11-29 10:52:11 AM  
Die Hard is a Christmas movie. Doesn't matter what Bruce Willis says.

And the best feature version of A Christmas Carol is Muppets. No contest.
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2020-11-29 10:57:41 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: The parents may have been talking to one another, which is a step above estrangement, but I wouldn't call the family "together".


Exactly. And as I pointed out in my original post, there's a difference between a movie set during Christmas and a movie about Christmas. Die Hard could have been set during the 4th of July or Thanksgiving without changing any of the plot. The messages of the film are "stealing is bad" and "cokeheads shouldn't negotiate with armed criminals". neither of which really scream "Christmas" to me.
 
2020-11-29 11:02:00 AM  
Filmy McFilmface?
 
2020-11-29 11:06:16 AM  
Sorry but Christmas has been called off.

The Sheriff of Nottingham out front should have told you.

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2020-11-29 11:11:29 AM  
Christmas Vacation. It's the only film that captures the greed, stupidity and utter pointlessness of our national two-month nostalgic retail stroke job.

And it's got the Audrey with the big red lips.
 
2020-11-29 11:17:50 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Mugato: Winterlight: rummonkey: Sure there is, it's about families being together, what is more Christmassy than an estranged family reuniting for the holidays.

Except they family didn't stay together past this end of the movie (watch the sequels), and a whole bunch of people died violent deaths. Not much of a Christmas theme to me.

They were still together in the second film.


The parents may have been talking to one another, which is a step above estrangement, but I wouldn't call the family "together".

And in the fourth one they made a big deal about the daughter using her mother's last name and not speaking to her dad until she realizes he is going to save her. Suddenly she's a McClane again.


In the second one he moved to LA for her and the family was definitely together. They were talking about the kids and the mother in law and all that shiat. In the third they were separated again and the fourth was basically an episode of "24" and they were apart and I don't even know what the fifth one was about.
 
2020-11-29 11:20:28 AM  

Minor Catastrophe: Sorry but Christmas has been called off.

The Sheriff of Nottingham out front should have told you.

Warning - English accent detected


We miss you, Alan. :(
 
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