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2020-11-28 1:58:11 PM  
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2020-11-28 4:09:27 PM  
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2020-11-28 8:48:51 PM  
I saw her squib kick. It wasn't very good, even for a squib kick. And someone covering it said "oh wow what a great kick!" C'mon.just,calm down.

It's odd, while I believe in breaking barriers, it should be for someone who deserves it. A kicker? I mean the jury is out but you can pluck kickers from soccer and they're fine. It seems, particularly given the conference in which this is happening, this has more to do with marketing $$ than breaking barriers.  And given Vanderbilt's other issues, it might be a better look *for them* to maybe have some... people of Asian decent succeeding...? They have problems with glass ceilings at Vandy and it's not necessarily with women.

As long as she's not as horrible at her job as the first NFL ref who is a woman, who is the equivalent to Leela in Blurnsball, I guess it's not too bad.
 
2020-11-28 10:34:11 PM  
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2020-11-28 10:35:34 PM  
Good thing they require a kickoff to start each half, otherwise she wouldn't have even gotten to play.
 
2020-11-28 10:42:36 PM  

The_Sponge: [Fark user image image 294x400]


I committed a kitten-holocaust to that movie when I was young.

/many kittens died
//zero-farks given
 
2020-11-28 10:52:28 PM  

fatalvenom: The_Sponge: [Fark user image image 294x400]

I committed a kitten-holocaust to that movie when I was young.

/many kittens died
//zero-farks given


Lulz.

/Remember seeing it in a theater with friends for my 13th birthday.
 
2020-11-28 10:52:36 PM  

puffy999: I saw her squib kick. It wasn't very good, even for a squib kick. And someone covering it said "oh wow what a great kick!" C'mon.just,calm down.

It's odd, while I believe in breaking barriers, it should be for someone who deserves it. A kicker? I mean the jury is out but you can pluck kickers from soccer and they're fine. It seems, particularly given the conference in which this is happening, this has more to do with marketing $$ than breaking barriers.  And given Vanderbilt's other issues, it might be a better look *for them* to maybe have some... people of Asian decent succeeding...? They have problems with glass ceilings at Vandy and it's not necessarily with women.

As long as she's not as horrible at her job as the first NFL ref who is a woman, who is the equivalent to Leela in Blurnsball, I guess it's not too bad.


Then you have Carli Lloyd who is planning to try out for the Eagles next year.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wash​i​ngtonpost.com/sports/2019/08/21/carli-​lloyd-drilled-yard-field-goal-hall-fam​er-says-she-should-get-an-nfl-tryout/%​3foutputType=amp

As far as I can tell, there are only 3 positions in men's pro sports where a woman can excel. NFL Punter/ Kicker and MLB Relief Pitcher using trick throws.
 
2020-11-28 10:54:22 PM  
I've mentioned it before on here but I grew up with the first female football player to score a TD in Ohio high school football history. Kwame Clark....girl was tough as hell. We played jr high football together before she transferred to the Catholic school (rare case of them being far worse than the public school). She was also an amazing basketball player and led their girls team to a state championship.
 
2020-11-28 10:58:45 PM  
I can only imagine how toxic parts of Twitter were on this topic today.  Almost every thread on the CFB subreddit had to be locked for assholes and brigading.
 
2020-11-28 11:02:41 PM  

baron von doodle: As far as I can tell, there are only 3 positions in men's pro sports where a woman can excel. NFL Punter/ Kicker and MLB Relief Pitcher using trick throws.


I *think* you could get a female second basewoman, too, with a really slick glove. I get it that home run power would be... Difficult... But maybe a slap-hitting, fast-running 2B is workable?
 
2020-11-28 11:02:54 PM  

UNC_Samurai: I can only imagine how toxic parts of Twitter were on this topic today.  Almost every thread on the CFB subreddit had to be locked for assholes and brigading.


Start at Jason Whitlock levels of cringe and assholiness and then cube it once anonymous users don't have to worry about losing their job/wife.

This is a good story.  People suck.
 
2020-11-28 11:04:18 PM  

UNC_Samurai: I can only imagine how toxic parts of Twitter were on this topic today.  Almost every thread on the CFB subreddit had to be locked for assholes and brigading.


Oh the Incel army was definitely out in force today mansplaining how she was going to get hurt.
 
2020-11-28 11:05:41 PM  
So, how'd she do?
 
2020-11-28 11:09:04 PM  
What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.
 
2020-11-28 11:16:14 PM  
She would have made more history as a punter.
 
2020-11-28 11:17:53 PM  

dukeblue219: baron von doodle: As far as I can tell, there are only 3 positions in men's pro sports where a woman can excel. NFL Punter/ Kicker and MLB Relief Pitcher using trick throws.

I *think* you could get a female second basewoman, too, with a really slick glove. I get it that home run power would be... Difficult... But maybe a slap-hitting, fast-running 2B is workable?


Doubtful. The batting wouldn't work.
 
2020-11-28 11:29:38 PM  

puffy999: As long as she's not as horrible at her job as the first NFL ref who is a woman, who is the equivalent to Leela in Blurnsball, I guess it's not too bad.


What's wrong with Sarah Thomas? She earned her position.
 
2020-11-28 11:32:32 PM  

phedex: What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.


Looked like she weighs about the same as any male kicker.
 
2020-11-28 11:34:24 PM  

phedex: What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.


Why would she need to take a tackle? And I think you overestimate the size of a lot of football players.
 
2020-11-28 11:40:11 PM  

abhorrent1: phedex: What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.

Why would she need to take a tackle? And I think you overestimate the size of a lot of football players.


Blocked kicks, if the return team breaks off a long run, missed snap of the ball on extra points...

All situations football fans and players are familiar and reason why she was required to where helmet and pads and not a red "no-touch" jersey.
 
2020-11-28 11:42:03 PM  

phedex: What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.


Can most kickers?
 
2020-11-28 11:45:20 PM  
Hard to believe the Vanderbilt student body doesn't have anyone in it who attempted a field goal in high school.
 
2020-11-28 11:46:19 PM  

abhorrent1: phedex: What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.

Why would she need to take a tackle? And I think you overestimate the size of a lot of football players.


Average size of college football player defensive lineman (person) is 6'3" @ 270 lbs.

https://www.ncsasports.org/football/r​e​cruiting-guidelines

Defensive linemen are the players on the field trying to obliterate a kicker in case you didn't know.
 
2020-11-28 11:50:49 PM  

Magnus: abhorrent1: phedex: What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.

Why would she need to take a tackle? And I think you overestimate the size of a lot of football players.

Average size of college football player defensive lineman (person) is 6'3" @ 270 lbs.

https://www.ncsasports.org/football/re​cruiting-guidelines

Defensive linemen are the players on the field trying to obliterate a kicker in case you didn't know.


Damn, that's dumb. You never hit a kicker. You ever watch a game?

Kickers tackle by getting run over by the ball carrier and tripping them up. Size doesn't matter at the position on that way.
 
2020-11-28 11:51:15 PM  

Magnus: abhorrent1: phedex: What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.

Why would she need to take a tackle? And I think you overestimate the size of a lot of football players.

Blocked kicks, if the return team breaks off a long run, missed snap of the ball on extra points...

All situations football fans and players are familiar and reason why she was required to where helmet and pads and not a red "no-touch" jersey.


There helmet and pads.

There bench.
 
2020-11-28 11:55:54 PM  

Champion of the Sun: Magnus: abhorrent1: phedex: What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.

Why would she need to take a tackle? And I think you overestimate the size of a lot of football players.

Average size of college football player defensive lineman (person) is 6'3" @ 270 lbs.

https://www.ncsasports.org/football/re​cruiting-guidelines

Defensive linemen are the players on the field trying to obliterate a kicker in case you didn't know.

Damn, that's dumb. You never hit a kicker. You ever watch a game?

Kickers tackle by getting run over by the ball carrier and tripping them up. Size doesn't matter at the position on that way.


Kickers get obliterated by blocking the ball into the kicker, kickers who have to turn into runners or QBs because of a bad snapped aren't suddenly playing flag or two hand touch.  You might want to watch a bit more football before calling actual experience dumb.
 
2020-11-28 11:56:58 PM  

Magnus: abhorrent1: phedex: What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.

Why would she need to take a tackle? And I think you overestimate the size of a lot of football players.

Average size of college football player defensive lineman (person) is 6'3" @ 270 lbs.

https://www.ncsasports.org/football/re​cruiting-guidelines

Defensive linemen are the players on the field trying to obliterate a kicker in case you didn't know.


I'm well aware of how big offensive linemen are. You don't need to be a condescending jackass.

And just FYI. The Chicago Bears kicker, Cairo Santos, is listed at 5'8" - 160lbs. Are you concerned for his safety too?
 
2020-11-29 12:02:21 AM  

Magnus: Champion of the Sun: Magnus: abhorrent1: phedex: What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.

Why would she need to take a tackle? And I think you overestimate the size of a lot of football players.

Average size of college football player defensive lineman (person) is 6'3" @ 270 lbs.

https://www.ncsasports.org/football/re​cruiting-guidelines

Defensive linemen are the players on the field trying to obliterate a kicker in case you didn't know.

Damn, that's dumb. You never hit a kicker. You ever watch a game?

Kickers tackle by getting run over by the ball carrier and tripping them up. Size doesn't matter at the position on that way.

Kickers get obliterated by blocking the ball into the kicker, kickers who have to turn into runners or QBs because of a bad snapped aren't suddenly playing flag or two hand touch.  You might want to watch a bit more football before calling actual experience dumb.


Sorry, didn't realize I was speaking to someone who scored 4 TDs for Polk High.

Sure, kickers have to be giants. Whatever.
 
2020-11-29 12:02:40 AM  

abhorrent1: Magnus: abhorrent1: phedex: What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.

Why would she need to take a tackle? And I think you overestimate the size of a lot of football players.

Average size of college football player defensive lineman (person) is 6'3" @ 270 lbs.

https://www.ncsasports.org/football/re​cruiting-guidelines

Defensive linemen are the players on the field trying to obliterate a kicker in case you didn't know.

I'm well aware of how big offensive linemen are. You don't need to be a condescending jackass.

And just FYI. The Chicago Bears kicker, Cairo Santos, is listed at 5'8" - 160lbs. Are you concerned for his safety too?


Those were stats on average defensive linemen in response to you dismissing someone as not knowing how big college football players actually are.

You invited that upon yourself.
 
2020-11-29 12:04:00 AM  

Champion of the Sun: Magnus: Champion of the Sun: Magnus: abhorrent1: phedex: What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.

Why would she need to take a tackle? And I think you overestimate the size of a lot of football players.

Average size of college football player defensive lineman (person) is 6'3" @ 270 lbs.

https://www.ncsasports.org/football/re​cruiting-guidelines

Defensive linemen are the players on the field trying to obliterate a kicker in case you didn't know.

Damn, that's dumb. You never hit a kicker. You ever watch a game?

Kickers tackle by getting run over by the ball carrier and tripping them up. Size doesn't matter at the position on that way.

Kickers get obliterated by blocking the ball into the kicker, kickers who have to turn into runners or QBs because of a bad snapped aren't suddenly playing flag or two hand touch.  You might want to watch a bit more football before calling actual experience dumb.

Sorry, didn't realize I was speaking to someone who scored 4 TDs for Polk High.

Sure, kickers have to be giants. Whatever.


I never said they had to be giants.  And there are actually people on Fark who have played sports.
 
2020-11-29 12:05:12 AM  

puffy999: I saw her squib kick. It wasn't very good, even for a squib kick. And someone covering it said "oh wow what a great kick!" C'mon.just,calm down.

It's odd, while I believe in breaking barriers, it should be for someone who deserves it. A kicker? I mean the jury is out but you can pluck kickers from soccer and they're fine. It seems, particularly given the conference in which this is happening, this has more to do with marketing $$ than breaking barriers.  And given Vanderbilt's other issues, it might be a better look *for them* to maybe have some... people of Asian decent succeeding...? They have problems with glass ceilings at Vandy and it's not necessarily with women.

As long as she's not as horrible at her job as the first NFL ref who is a woman, who is the equivalent to Leela in Blurnsball, I guess it's not too bad.


Undoubtedly a marketing thing over a quality thing. They knew they were going to get blown out going into the game. It's farking Vanderbilt for crying out loud. I would venture a guess that any of the 25+ men on the Vanderbilt men's soccer team have a stronger leg than her. I would venture a guess that at least 3-4 of them kicked in some manner in high school football as well. They weren't playing a game this weekend, none of them were available to kick? I suppose you could say that none of them wanted to kick, but I doubt that as well.

This isn't so much "breaking a barrier" as it is a gimmick. Like when they put Manute Bol on ice skates. Or
 
2020-11-29 12:06:38 AM  
If she's running the ball on her own kickoff and getting tackled by a defensive lineman, then Candy's f*cking up more than we thought possible.

Also, defensive linemen rarely get anywhere near a kicker. The holder is pretty much always the one having to scramble on a bad snap. On the kick itself, gunners are smaller people coming in off the edges. Yeah, it'll hurt, just like any kicker gets hurt.

Women aren't made of glass, y'know.
 
2020-11-29 12:07:13 AM  

Magnus: Champion of the Sun: Magnus: abhorrent1: phedex: What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.

Why would she need to take a tackle? And I think you overestimate the size of a lot of football players.

Average size of college football player defensive lineman (person) is 6'3" @ 270 lbs.

https://www.ncsasports.org/football/re​cruiting-guidelines

Defensive linemen are the players on the field trying to obliterate a kicker in case you didn't know.

Damn, that's dumb. You never hit a kicker. You ever watch a game?

Kickers tackle by getting run over by the ball carrier and tripping them up. Size doesn't matter at the position on that way.

Kickers get obliterated by blocking the ball into the kicker, kickers who have to turn into runners or QBs because of a bad snapped aren't suddenly playing flag or two hand touch.  You might want to watch a bit more football before calling actual experience dumb.


It's usually the holder that turns into a runner or QB on a bad snap, not the place kicker. You might be thinking of the punter, which she is not.
 
2020-11-29 12:07:22 AM  

baron von doodle: puffy999: I saw her squib kick. It wasn't very good, even for a squib kick. And someone covering it said "oh wow what a great kick!" C'mon.just,calm down.

It's odd, while I believe in breaking barriers, it should be for someone who deserves it. A kicker? I mean the jury is out but you can pluck kickers from soccer and they're fine. It seems, particularly given the conference in which this is happening, this has more to do with marketing $$ than breaking barriers.  And given Vanderbilt's other issues, it might be a better look *for them* to maybe have some... people of Asian decent succeeding...? They have problems with glass ceilings at Vandy and it's not necessarily with women.

As long as she's not as horrible at her job as the first NFL ref who is a woman, who is the equivalent to Leela in Blurnsball, I guess it's not too bad.

Then you have Carli Lloyd who is planning to try out for the Eagles next year.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washi​ngtonpost.com/sports/2019/08/21/carli-​lloyd-drilled-yard-field-goal-hall-fam​er-says-she-should-get-an-nfl-tryout/%​3foutputType=amp

As far as I can tell, there are only 3 positions in men's pro sports where a woman can excel. NFL Punter/ Kicker and MLB Relief Pitcher using trick throws.


Racing is a sport.  NASCAR in particular has a couple of young women who look to be better than Danica Patrick ever was.  For starters, they're completely focused on racing.
 
2020-11-29 12:07:51 AM  

baron von doodle: puffy999: I saw her squib kick. It wasn't very good, even for a squib kick. And someone covering it said "oh wow what a great kick!" C'mon.just,calm down.

It's odd, while I believe in breaking barriers, it should be for someone who deserves it. A kicker? I mean the jury is out but you can pluck kickers from soccer and they're fine. It seems, particularly given the conference in which this is happening, this has more to do with marketing $$ than breaking barriers.  And given Vanderbilt's other issues, it might be a better look *for them* to maybe have some... people of Asian decent succeeding...? They have problems with glass ceilings at Vandy and it's not necessarily with women.

As long as she's not as horrible at her job as the first NFL ref who is a woman, who is the equivalent to Leela in Blurnsball, I guess it's not too bad.

Then you have Carli Lloyd who is planning to try out for the Eagles next year.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washi​ngtonpost.com/sports/2019/08/21/carli-​lloyd-drilled-yard-field-goal-hall-fam​er-says-she-should-get-an-nfl-tryout/%​3foutputType=amp

As far as I can tell, there are only 3 positions in men's pro sports where a woman can excel. NFL Punter/ Kicker and MLB Relief Pitcher using trick throws.


LOL no she's not.
 
2020-11-29 12:09:16 AM  

Magnus: Champion of the Sun: Magnus: Champion of the Sun: Magnus: abhorrent1: phedex: What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.

Why would she need to take a tackle? And I think you overestimate the size of a lot of football players.

Average size of college football player defensive lineman (person) is 6'3" @ 270 lbs.

https://www.ncsasports.org/football/re​cruiting-guidelines

Defensive linemen are the players on the field trying to obliterate a kicker in case you didn't know.

Damn, that's dumb. You never hit a kicker. You ever watch a game?

Kickers tackle by getting run over by the ball carrier and tripping them up. Size doesn't matter at the position on that way.

Kickers get obliterated by blocking the ball into the kicker, kickers who have to turn into runners or QBs because of a bad snapped aren't suddenly playing flag or two hand touch.  You might want to watch a bit more football before calling actual experience dumb.

Sorry, didn't realize I was speaking to someone who scored 4 TDs for Polk High.

Sure, kickers have to be giants. Whatever.

I never said they had to be giants.  And there are actually people on Fark who have played sports.


Pleasure yourself and get this hostility out.
 
2020-11-29 12:11:02 AM  
Lol @ autocorrect making Vandy into Candy. Whatever.

If you're upset about this or feel the need to be in here talking about "doesn't count!" or "but what if she'd gotten hit?" just stop. You're embarrassing yourself and you're on the losing end of an argument that was a thing 20+ years ago.
 
2020-11-29 12:13:23 AM  

abhorrent1: Magnus: abhorrent1: phedex: What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.

Why would she need to take a tackle? And I think you overestimate the size of a lot of football players.

Average size of college football player defensive lineman (person) is 6'3" @ 270 lbs.

https://www.ncsasports.org/football/re​cruiting-guidelines

Defensive linemen are the players on the field trying to obliterate a kicker in case you didn't know.

I'm well aware of how big offensive linemen are. You don't need to be a condescending jackass.

And just FYI. The Chicago Bears kicker, Cairo Santos, is listed at 5'8" - 160lbs. Are you concerned for his safety too?


And I'm not concerned for her safety more so than any other kicker.

I congratulate her on having the willingness to get out there and do what she did.

However, let's not pretend she is the Jackie Robinson of Power5 football.  She was a willing participant in an emergency situation, not a groundbreaking figure that disproves performance myths. Her doing this was great for her, interesting overall, but not some sudden shift in the physics of football.  Her range as described by the Vandy head coach was no more than from the 20 yd line.

What happens to her when the regular kickers are off the COVID list?
 
2020-11-29 12:16:09 AM  

Champion of the Sun: Magnus: Champion of the Sun: Magnus: Champion of the Sun: Magnus: abhorrent1: phedex: What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.

Why would she need to take a tackle? And I think you overestimate the size of a lot of football players.

Average size of college football player defensive lineman (person) is 6'3" @ 270 lbs.

https://www.ncsasports.org/football/re​cruiting-guidelines

Defensive linemen are the players on the field trying to obliterate a kicker in case you didn't know.

Damn, that's dumb. You never hit a kicker. You ever watch a game?

Kickers tackle by getting run over by the ball carrier and tripping them up. Size doesn't matter at the position on that way.

Kickers get obliterated by blocking the ball into the kicker, kickers who have to turn into runners or QBs because of a bad snapped aren't suddenly playing flag or two hand touch.  You might want to watch a bit more football before calling actual experience dumb.

Sorry, didn't realize I was speaking to someone who scored 4 TDs for Polk High.

Sure, kickers have to be giants. Whatever.

I never said they had to be giants.  And there are actually people on Fark who have played sports.

Pleasure yourself and get this hostility out.


So, ad hominem attacks, again?
 
2020-11-29 12:16:20 AM  
Good for her! Let this be the start of a true integration of the sports if they're not going to create a women's football in the college ranks. If she has the skills, no reason for her not to be out there playing.

bluorangefyre: Racing is a sport. NASCAR in particular has a couple of young women who look to be better than Danica Patrick ever was. For starters, they're completely focused on racing.


Danica was and will always be an IndyCar driver. Nascar was a step down for her.
 
2020-11-29 12:18:55 AM  
I don't think anyone's really making the argument that she's gonna be a starter or is gonna stay on the team, there, sport. Or even that she is a particularly good kicker as a woman.

People are just celebrating a first. Let them enjoy it. We all know it doesn't mean anything on a sport-wide level at this point, but it can get more women into the game, which will only make the sport better (by expanding the pool of potential talent).

/It's weird how, just like real life, people get all up in arms about the first if anything to play, but legacy admissions/offers...no one complains about those
 
2020-11-29 12:19:18 AM  

Magnus: Champion of the Sun: Magnus: Champion of the Sun: Magnus: Champion of the Sun: Magnus: abhorrent1: phedex: What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.

Why would she need to take a tackle? And I think you overestimate the size of a lot of football players.

Average size of college football player defensive lineman (person) is 6'3" @ 270 lbs.

https://www.ncsasports.org/football/re​cruiting-guidelines

Defensive linemen are the players on the field trying to obliterate a kicker in case you didn't know.

Damn, that's dumb. You never hit a kicker. You ever watch a game?

Kickers tackle by getting run over by the ball carrier and tripping them up. Size doesn't matter at the position on that way.

Kickers get obliterated by blocking the ball into the kicker, kickers who have to turn into runners or QBs because of a bad snapped aren't suddenly playing flag or two hand touch.  You might want to watch a bit more football before calling actual experience dumb.

Sorry, didn't realize I was speaking to someone who scored 4 TDs for Polk High.

Sure, kickers have to be giants. Whatever.

I never said they had to be giants.  And there are actually people on Fark who have played sports.

Pleasure yourself and get this hostility out.

So, ad hominem attacks, again?


Friendly advice. 100% sincere. Open up a youporn tab. You're being kinda intense over a non topic.
 
2020-11-29 12:22:21 AM  

Champion of the Sun: Magnus: Champion of the Sun: Magnus: Champion of the Sun: Magnus: Champion of the Sun: Magnus: abhorrent1: phedex: What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.

Why would she need to take a tackle? And I think you overestimate the size of a lot of football players.

Average size of college football player defensive lineman (person) is 6'3" @ 270 lbs.

https://www.ncsasports.org/football/re​cruiting-guidelines

Defensive linemen are the players on the field trying to obliterate a kicker in case you didn't know.

Damn, that's dumb. You never hit a kicker. You ever watch a game?

Kickers tackle by getting run over by the ball carrier and tripping them up. Size doesn't matter at the position on that way.

Kickers get obliterated by blocking the ball into the kicker, kickers who have to turn into runners or QBs because of a bad snapped aren't suddenly playing flag or two hand touch.  You might want to watch a bit more football before calling actual experience dumb.

Sorry, didn't realize I was speaking to someone who scored 4 TDs for Polk High.

Sure, kickers have to be giants. Whatever.

I never said they had to be giants.  And there are actually people on Fark who have played sports.

Pleasure yourself and get this hostility out.

So, ad hominem attacks, again?

Friendly advice. 100% sincere. Open up a youporn tab. You're being kinda intense over a non topic.


You keep trying to throw around this sexual hostility label as if you have a 100% honest point of advice.  Ok.
 
2020-11-29 12:36:02 AM  

Magnus: abhorrent1: Magnus: abhorrent1: phedex: What does she weigh?  Can she take a full speed tackle from a 240lb dude if thats what it comes down to?

if so, then go for it.

Why would she need to take a tackle? And I think you overestimate the size of a lot of football players.

Average size of college football player defensive lineman (person) is 6'3" @ 270 lbs.

https://www.ncsasports.org/football/re​cruiting-guidelines

Defensive linemen are the players on the field trying to obliterate a kicker in case you didn't know.

I'm well aware of how big offensive linemen are. You don't need to be a condescending jackass.

And just FYI. The Chicago Bears kicker, Cairo Santos, is listed at 5'8" - 160lbs. Are you concerned for his safety too?

And I'm not concerned for her safety more so than any other kicker.

I congratulate her on having the willingness to get out there and do what she did.

However, let's not pretend she is the Jackie Robinson of Power5 football.  She was a willing participant in an emergency situation, not a groundbreaking figure that disproves performance myths. Her doing this was great for her, interesting overall, but not some sudden shift in the physics of football.  Her range as described by the Vandy head coach was no more than from the 20 yd line.

What happens to her when the regular kickers are off the COVID list?


My point has nothing to do with whether or not she's trail blazing or her skill level. It has to do with the people that derp about how she's going to get killed after being hit but some giant football player.

Not all football players are 6'3" - 300 Lbs. There are plenty of "small" guys in the NFL that have or had long, successful careers. But keep moving those goal posts. Maybe you'll eventually move them out of her range and prove our point.
 
2020-11-29 12:51:50 AM  

abhorrent1: Maybe you'll eventually move them out of her range and prove our point.


From up thread apparently her range is about the 20 yard line, which is a 30 yard FG.  This is great for her, but this absolutely is a stunt.  There is zero chance that there isn't someone else on the team with a more powerful leg that could have stepped up for this situation.

Does breaking a barrier really count if the only reason it is being broken is to break the barrier?  That's not equality, that's pandering.
 
2020-11-29 12:54:36 AM  

mjbok: abhorrent1: Maybe you'll eventually move them out of her range and prove our point.

From up thread apparently her range is about the 20 yard line, which is a 30 yard FG.  This is great for her, but this absolutely is a stunt.  There is zero chance that there isn't someone else on the team with a more powerful leg that could have stepped up for this situation.

Does breaking a barrier really count if the only reason it is being broken is to break the barrier?  That's not equality, that's pandering.


Also if there was a return was she instructed to get out of the way, would the other team have legit blocked her
 
2020-11-29 1:04:52 AM  

mjbok: abhorrent1: Maybe you'll eventually move them out of her range and prove our point.

From up thread apparently her range is about the 20 yard line, which is a 30 yard FG.  This is great for her, but this absolutely is a stunt.  There is zero chance that there isn't someone else on the team with a more powerful leg that could have stepped up for this situation.

Does breaking a barrier really count if the only reason it is being broken is to break the barrier?  That's not equality, that's pandering.


20 yard line makes it 37 yards. I don't know what the average distance is for a FG because I don't feel like looking but it's probably not much more than that. Even NFL kickers aren't kicking 50 yarders every time they go out there.

As for tackling on a return. No, it's not something place kickers are expected to do. Again, I don't feel like looking it up so my numbers might be slightly off but...Adam Vinatieri was in the NFL for 24 years. He had only like 11 tackles in that time.

People in this thread seem to think that place kickers in football are more involved in the game then they actually are.
 
2020-11-29 1:12:42 AM  

abhorrent1: mjbok: abhorrent1: Maybe you'll eventually move them out of her range and prove our point.

From up thread apparently her range is about the 20 yard line, which is a 30 yard FG.  This is great for her, but this absolutely is a stunt.  There is zero chance that there isn't someone else on the team with a more powerful leg that could have stepped up for this situation.

Does breaking a barrier really count if the only reason it is being broken is to break the barrier?  That's not equality, that's pandering.

20 yard line makes it 37 yards. I don't know what the average distance is for a FG because I don't feel like looking but it's probably not much more than that. Even NFL kickers aren't kicking 50 yarders every time they go out there.

As for tackling on a return. No, it's not something place kickers are expected to do. Again, I don't feel like looking it up so my numbers might be slightly off but...Adam Vinatieri was in the NFL for 24 years. He had only like 11 tackles in that time.

People in this thread seem to think that place kickers in football are more involved in the game then they actually are.


It's not that their overly involved but generally there is an expectation of them being the last line of defence, We had a couple of girls try out For our high school football team, And honestly I blame the coaches But they were still expected to hit and get hit There was always somebody looking to take that hard shot on just to prove a point
 
2020-11-29 1:19:28 AM  
Kicker is a good role for her. Today's NFL guy is a beast. Coaches and referees? Any woman can do that, but playing on the field is a little different. Unless the lady in question is built like a brick shiathouse, toughness isn't going to matter when the  guy outweighs you by 75-100 lbs. Kickers are more protected. I don't see it starting a wave of women playing football, but it's a start.
 
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