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(Daily Star)   Couple's renovation project turns into a creepy history lesson after finding secret 'medieval witchcraft pouch' loaded with shoes, skulls and a half-eaten hat underneath their bricked-up stairs (possible nsfw content on page)   (dailystar.co.uk) divider line
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2020-11-28 12:04:43 PM  
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2020-11-28 12:33:43 PM  
I was wondering where I left that pouch.
 
2020-11-28 12:51:47 PM  
"If this doesn't freak out archeologists in the future, I'll eat my hat!"
 
2020-11-28 12:55:04 PM  
And the weird thing is, the house is only 30 years old.
 
2020-11-28 12:56:45 PM  
The things you can buy at Hot Topic....
 
2020-11-28 1:02:58 PM  
"People believed that by leaving out items, such as shoes, witches or demons would be attracted to the scent left by the wearer and, once they entered the shoe or boot, they were unable to reverse back out and were therefore trapped."

"Other theories suggest that perhaps they would become so distracted by the novelty of the find that they would leave the family alone."

The seal is broken and an unspeakable evil is unleashed - on a rampage of blood and lust.
 
2020-11-28 1:08:46 PM  
Destroyed hat, old shoes, animal remains, nice garbage pit you found there. Good thing the Star is there to spin it into a story...
 
2020-11-28 1:10:39 PM  
I hope they're not surprised when their insurance rate go up for disabling their witch protection system.
 
2020-11-28 1:13:13 PM  
This was on fark weeks ago. I guess they're just republishing old stories as new now?  slow news week or something?
 
2020-11-28 1:13:58 PM  
I left something inside my wall before sealing it up:

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2020-11-28 1:22:20 PM  
Hey. Let he who hasn't drunkenly and hungrily joined a coven in a raucous one-night thrill ride cast the first stone...
 
2020-11-28 1:24:42 PM  

Creepy Lurker Guy: I left something inside my wall before sealing it up:

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I've always felt that if you tear open a wall, or rip up carpet, and you don't leave anything fun in there that you're doing life wrong. Stencils and drawings on the subfloor, bottle of whiskey or a fake halloween skeleton in the wall. A collage behind the medicine cabinet. It sure beats a pile of old rusty razorblades.
 
2020-11-28 1:26:02 PM  
The house I grew up in was built at the turnnfobthe century (somewhere between 1895-1905) and in 2004 we gut renovated it.  Under the stairs landing was a shoe and a hat from that era.


It was my brothers renovation so I have no idea of he put them back.
 
2020-11-28 1:29:53 PM  

IRestoreFurniture: The house I grew up in was built at the turnnfobthe century (somewhere between 1895-1905) and in 2004 we gut renovated it.  Under the stairs landing was a shoe and a hat from that era.


It was my brothers renovation so I have no idea of he put them back.


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2020-11-28 1:35:09 PM  
That's just a Kayleigh McEnany starter pack.
 
2020-11-28 1:37:42 PM  
I miss the excitement of renovating a really old house. I used to find animal bones, newspapers used for insulation, parts of the house built from trees with the bark still on, and cryptic messages, but my most recent house was built in 1981, so the most exciting thing to find is the occasional old Hot Wheel in the backyard.
 
2020-11-28 1:38:48 PM  
I open a wall in my house a few year ago.  The house was build in 1960.  I was excited to find newspapers in the wall. I was super surprised to find them dated 2003.  I eventually found out, by removing the baseboard and seeing the patch, that when I had my floors redone the refinisher ran his sander into the wall and did a quick repair.
 
2020-11-28 1:44:25 PM  

Chevello: I miss the excitement of renovating a really old house. I used to find animal bones, newspapers used for insulation, parts of the house built from trees with the bark still on, and cryptic messages, but my most recent house was built in 1981, so the most exciting thing to find is the occasional old Hot Wheel in the backyard.


And nobody have time for that. Next
 
2020-11-28 1:50:08 PM  
It could've been worse, they could've founded the cobweb draped skeleton of a bespectacled wannabe wizard who never got his acceptance letter.
 
2020-11-28 1:57:34 PM  
Those are some ugly ass stairs.
Who puts a handrail AND balusters on the side of the wall?
 
2020-11-28 1:58:29 PM  

scalpod: It could've been worse, they could've founded the cobweb draped skeleton of a bespectacled wannabe wizard who never got his acceptance letter.


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2020-11-28 2:16:43 PM  

Madman drummers bummers: "If this doesn't freak out archeologists in the future, I'll eat my hat!"


Hold up there, you only get 1/2 a hat. Leave some for the future people.
 
2020-11-28 2:20:53 PM  

Creepy Lurker Guy: I left something inside my wall before sealing it up:

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I need to replace some drywall in my basement. I really want to get a realistic skeleton to put behind the wall when I do. I may get two and bury one in my back yard too.
 
2020-11-28 2:25:55 PM  

gunther_bumpass: Creepy Lurker Guy: I left something inside my wall before sealing it up:

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I've always felt that if you tear open a wall, or rip up carpet, and you don't leave anything fun in there that you're doing life wrong. Stencils and drawings on the subfloor, bottle of whiskey or a fake halloween skeleton in the wall. A collage behind the medicine cabinet. It sure beats a pile of old rusty razorblades.


Next year, I move out of the house I've lived in for decades. I am sorely tempted to bury my Halloween skeleton in the crawlspace.
 
2020-11-28 2:32:42 PM  

doomsdayaddams: gunther_bumpass: Creepy Lurker Guy: I left something inside my wall before sealing it up:

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I've always felt that if you tear open a wall, or rip up carpet, and you don't leave anything fun in there that you're doing life wrong. Stencils and drawings on the subfloor, bottle of whiskey or a fake halloween skeleton in the wall. A collage behind the medicine cabinet. It sure beats a pile of old rusty razorblades.

Next year, I move out of the house I've lived in for decades. I am sorely tempted to bury my Halloween skeleton in the crawlspace.


You have a moral obligation to do so, bonus points if you accessorize or do a theme. I'm partial to those stupid new years year glasses and a party hat/empty bottle, but you can't go wrong with a nice Cask of Amontillado homage.
 
2020-11-28 2:49:59 PM  
"People believed that by leaving out items, such as shoes, witches or demons would be attracted to the scent left by the wearer and, once they entered the shoe or boot, they were unable to reverse back out and were therefore trapped."

Wow. Good to know that the conspiracy wargobble we see on the internet isn't a new thing.
Why would witches and demons be attracted to foot odor? Even if they were, why would they go for an old shoe rather than the source? Why are they all left shoes? Why/how would they go into a shoe? Why would they be unable to back out? Once you caught a witch or demon in a shoe, how do you dispose of it? Does adding more shoes make the protection more powerful? If so is it linear or exponentially so? And what about the animal skulls? So many questions.
 
2020-11-28 2:55:45 PM  
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2020-11-28 2:56:39 PM  

abhorrent1: Creepy Lurker Guy: I left something inside my wall before sealing it up:

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I need to replace some drywall in my basement. I really want to get a realistic skeleton to put behind the wall when I do. I may get two and bury one in my back yard too.


Once read a fun story regarding a convicted killer's letter to his father. He, a gardener, confessed that there was a body he'd buried in the father's yard. Prisons of course read mail and the authorities quickly turned up and dug all through the yard, finding no bodily remains. The father received another letter shortly thereafter: "Now that the soil has been turned, it's time to plant the tomatoes."
 
2020-11-28 3:15:42 PM  
So this couple thinks the stash is from the late medieval period?  Cool trick in finding eight left shoes, since left and right shoes weren't invented until the mid 19th century.  Maybe a time travelling octo-witch got caught in the wily snare, trapped forever with nothing to eat but animal heads and half a hat?  The Star is there!
 
2020-11-28 3:16:49 PM  
True story: Back in the 1960s some neighbors moved out and while the house was vacant, my brother installed an extra doorbell in the basement, and ran the wires out to the back alley, ending them under a flagstone.  He'd randomly in the middle of the night, go up the block with a lantern battery and connect it to the wires until he saw lights coming on inside the house, then disconnect it, replaced the stone and go home.  He did this completely randomly.

I assume the wires are still there, but corroded away.
 
2020-11-28 3:35:42 PM  

Creepy Lurker Guy: I left something inside my wall before sealing it up:

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Years ago I helped a friend put up drywall and I made sure to bring some envelopes that were stuffed with pieces of newspaper and on each it said "$10,000." And these were all put inside an old lunchbox. Someone someday is going to get their hopes up when they find it.
 
2020-11-28 3:51:32 PM  
That is amazing and I envy their awesome story.
 
2020-11-28 4:34:07 PM  

Civilized Barbarian: doomsdayaddams: gunther_bumpass: Creepy Lurker Guy: I left something inside my wall before sealing it up:

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I've always felt that if you tear open a wall, or rip up carpet, and you don't leave anything fun in there that you're doing life wrong. Stencils and drawings on the subfloor, bottle of whiskey or a fake halloween skeleton in the wall. A collage behind the medicine cabinet. It sure beats a pile of old rusty razorblades.

Next year, I move out of the house I've lived in for decades. I am sorely tempted to bury my Halloween skeleton in the crawlspace.

You have a moral obligation to do so, bonus points if you accessorize or do a theme. I'm partial to those stupid new years year glasses and a party hat/empty bottle, but you can't go wrong with a nice Cask of Amontillado homage.


This IS the skeleton that has been dressed in seasonal apparel for each of my kid's visits home from college, so it would be appropriate. Montressor had a cap o' bells, right?
 
2020-11-28 6:22:20 PM  

Creepy Lurker Guy: True story: Back in the 1960s some neighbors moved out and while the house was vacant, my brother installed an extra doorbell in the basement, and ran the wires out to the back alley, ending them under a flagstone.  He'd randomly in the middle of the night, go up the block with a lantern battery and connect it to the wires until he saw lights coming on inside the house, then disconnect it, replaced the stone and go home.  He did this completely randomly.

I assume the wires are still there, but corroded away.


Cool, but your brother sounds like a dick.
 
2020-11-28 7:10:10 PM  

joepennerlives: your brother sounds like a dick.


He absolutely is.
 
2020-11-28 8:51:32 PM  
a N.J. / USA construction worker told me that if you are ever moving dirt or renovating an old house and find a skeleton or bizarre things, the best thing you can do is tell no one and dispose of it ASAP on the quiet.

if you tell the others on-site or call the cops you will lose your day laborers due to cops, fear of immigration, and/or superstition. if the law gets involved you'll lose at least a months work and cash because of it.
 
2020-11-29 1:53:57 AM  
My roomie says this might be a more general ward. He has an interest in witchcraft traditions, not his area of study and a proper folklorist would be a better source, but he remembered coming across this stuff before.

Concealed shoes -- these actually turn up all over the place, and sometimes the shoes have been replaced with modern ones. They're nearly all worn, with signs of repair -- this is likely why the ones in the article are left shoes, the process of wearing them made them change shape. Mostly they're leather, also wood clogs are found, slightly more women's shoes, but a very large number are children's shoes at around 50%. Children's shoes are a fertility charm, so that could be an option. A bunch of folk traditions involving luring and trapping wandering bad spirits, so they get into the house, go for the shoe, and then end up stuck in the closed space away from the occupants.

Gun barrel(s) -- some places rusted, bent, "mis-heated", etc, gun barrels as a kind of hex against bad intentions. So those could be a curse on any guns that mean to shoot the occupants. There's an earlier tradition with swords and spears left to rust, so it might be related. There's also a tradition to bury an iron dagger under the threshold to keep bad things away.

Concealed horse skull -- surprisingly commonplace. This might be about travel, about trying to divert or discourage danger on the road, but it could be a more general ward against evil magic. Horse skulls turn up in other Welsh folk traditions, like Mari Lwyd. They're used for all kinds of things.

The article doesn't mention a mummified cat. Cats were meant to be old mousers who died of old age, and they'd become patrolling spirits that chased away bad things -- slightly more active than the horse skull ward, at least in one tradition.

Not sure about the hat. Hats have various magical uses.

Good times with sympathetic magic.
 
2020-11-29 9:25:04 AM  
I hate to be "that guy" who spots the flaw in the story, but shoe-laces with shoe-holes weren't invented in medieval times. The first recorded pair of modern laced-shoes was March 27, 1790.
 
2020-11-29 9:27:13 AM  
Also, shoes with separate left and right feet are a modern invention. The shoes in that picture look to me to be 19th century at earliest, and probably early 20th century.
 
2020-11-29 9:30:09 AM  
Fun fact: Philadelphia cobbler, William Young perfected the making of left and right shoes about 1800. Until modern times, shoes were interchangeable.
 
2020-11-29 10:35:57 AM  
Spotted at the scene:

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2020-11-29 1:25:34 PM  
To all the people saying that shoes weren't made left or right until later: once a shoe has been worn for a while, it is quite easy to tell which foot it was worn on.
 
2020-11-29 1:43:42 PM  

Tex570: "People believed that by leaving out items, such as shoes, witches or demons would be attracted to the scent left by the wearer and, once they entered the shoe or boot, they were unable to reverse back out and were therefore trapped."

"Other theories suggest that perhaps they would become so distracted by the novelty of the find that they would leave the family alone."

The seal is broken and an unspeakable evil is unleashed - on a rampage of blood and lust.


You say that like it will be a bad thing, but, I like it when lust is unleashed.
 
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