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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2020-11-28 5:36:35 AM  
My insurance, which I believe to be typical, only replaces cracked windshields if the crack is large or in front of the driver. Otherwise they repair.
 
2020-11-28 5:49:02 AM  
"Some folks, unfortunately, need to be prodded, and that's part of the idea here too, as the application goes onto explain"

GFY, dude.
 
2020-11-28 6:47:23 AM  
Can we still find out who won the volleyball game?

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2020-11-28 6:52:42 AM  
I could see this being useful for things like fleets of Johnny Cabs.
 
2020-11-28 7:41:19 AM  

ZAZ: My insurance, which I believe to be typical, only replaces cracked windshields if the crack is large or in front of the driver. Otherwise they repair.


In MA any crack over an inch has to be fixed, regardless of location.  I had a crack in the front corner driver side that could only be seen from the exterior.  Insurance covered the cost but I had to get it replaced
 
2020-11-28 8:49:49 AM  
Apple Windshields would work by self-detecting cracks, even ones so small you can't see them. It will then revert to the default, power-off windshield setting of "iOpaque." You'll have to get the car towed to the nearest Apple windshield dealership for replacement of your $5000 windshield.
 
2020-11-28 9:08:55 AM  
It bricks the car until it is fixed?
 
2020-11-28 9:11:48 AM  
This would drive Jeep owners crazy.
 
2020-11-28 9:16:26 AM  
The patent doesn't say anything about automotive windshields. Just vehicle windows, which is a much broader concept. This idea makes sense for airplanes or space vehicles that would benefit from ensuring the structural integrity and clartity of the windows.
 
2020-11-28 9:20:02 AM  
I thought my windshield was cracked but it turned out I was just holding it wrong.
 
2020-11-28 9:26:34 AM  

edmo: You'll have to get the car towed to the nearest Apple windshield dealership for replacement of your $5000 windshield.


Apple won't replace defective parts on old hardware. You'll have to throw your car away and buy the new one.
 
2020-11-28 9:52:32 AM  

edmo: Apple Windshields would work by self-detecting cracks, even ones so small you can't see them. It will then revert to the default, power-off windshield setting of "iOpaque." You'll have to get the car towed to the nearest Apple windshield dealership for replacement of your $5000 windshield.


Microsoft Windshields turn blue and everyone inside dies.
They call it the Blue Windshield of Death.
 
2020-11-28 9:57:06 AM  
Y'all laugh, but I could see manufacturers implementing this on ADAS equipped vehicles that have front cameras that look through the windshield.

My employer does ADAS calibration for collision shops and anything that has a windshield mounted front camera requires the system to be recalibrated after windshield replacement, and every time an aftermarket windshield is used the vehicles won't pass calibration.  The windshield is considered the final lens for the front camera.
 
2020-11-28 10:10:03 AM  
scanman61:

the system to be recalibrated after windshield replacement, and every time an aftermarket windshield is used the vehicles won't pass calibration

Yikes
 
2020-11-28 10:14:04 AM  
So, as a former glass-replacer-dude, this idea sounds mostly absurd to me. We already have windshields with metallic coatings (you'll occasionally notice windshields with a bright blueish or purplish sheen on a sunny day) and fine wire meshes (Land Rovers and Jaguars in particular often come with heated windshields-obnoxious to drive on a sunny day, all the little squiggly wires catch the sunlight). If a rock chip doesn't interfere with these features, the resin used to repair the rock chips surely will. When it comes to glass claims, insurance companies will still try to push chip repairs, but I've never seen an insurance company say no when replacement was insisted upon because you're not supposed to repair them.

A feature like this might render every windshield non-repairable, so what's the benefit? Okay, you get a chip around the edges of the glass or down low. Now you can know it's damaged before you can see it, but you can't repair it anyways. Just one more thing to nag you about? I got in my car this morning and started driving. I couldn't change the station or otherwise operate the radio until I took my eyes off the road long enough to acknowledge that my tire pressure was low (it was a cold morning), that my brakes would need replacement soon, and that I shouldn't let myself become distracted by the computer that was demanding my attention.

I feel like all we're really doing with all these "smart" features is inventing more stupid problems.
 
2020-11-28 10:15:02 AM  
Last time I got a windshield replaced, it cracked about three weeks later.  The company refused to honor the 90-day warranty because reasons.

And then there's the guy in the cul-de-sac who is in the middle of a divorce and his soon to be ex smashed the windshields in both of his vehicles.  He said he'd replace them once the divorce is finalized and he can move out of the area.
 
2020-11-28 10:20:36 AM  

snarfblam: So, as a former glass-replacer-dude, this idea sounds mostly absurd to me. We already have windshields with metallic coatings (you'll occasionally notice windshields with a bright blueish or purplish sheen on a sunny day) and fine wire meshes (Land Rovers and Jaguars in particular often come with heated windshields-obnoxious to drive on a sunny day, all the little squiggly wires catch the sunlight). If a rock chip doesn't interfere with these features, the resin used to repair the rock chips surely will. When it comes to glass claims, insurance companies will still try to push chip repairs, but I've never seen an insurance company say no when replacement was insisted upon because you're not supposed to repair them.

A feature like this might render every windshield non-repairable, so what's the benefit? Okay, you get a chip around the edges of the glass or down low. Now you can know it's damaged before you can see it, but you can't repair it anyways. Just one more thing to nag you about? I got in my car this morning and started driving. I couldn't change the station or otherwise operate the radio until I took my eyes off the road long enough to acknowledge that my tire pressure was low (it was a cold morning), that my brakes would need replacement soon, and that I shouldn't let myself become distracted by the computer that was demanding my attention.

I feel like all we're really doing with all these "smart" features is inventing more stupid problems.


And yet, all those, expensive, annoying AF features and people aint driving any better.
 
2020-11-28 10:43:26 AM  

Bslim: scanman61:

the system to be recalibrated after windshield replacement, and every time an aftermarket windshield is used the vehicles won't pass calibration

Yikes


Yeah, the glass in the aftermarket windshields isn't optically "correct" for the ADAS system.

I don't know if it's the wrong color, wrong refractive index or just not the correct "lens" for the camera but the won't calibrate correctly.

Optical ADAS calibration is done with special sized & patterned optical targets placed at a specific pattern & distance around the vehicle.  Since it uses the cameras to make driving decisions they're REALLY picky about calibration.

ADAS windshields start at around $1600 and we charge a minimum of $400 for a system cal (varies by platform).
 
2020-11-28 10:45:52 AM  
I think a replacement windshield wiper is about $40 now, when I used to buy little plastic blades that cost about $4.
And you know, my windshields have never been worth more.

edmo: Apple Windshields would work by self-detecting cracks, even ones so small you can't see them. It will then revert to the default, power-off windshield setting of "iOpaque." You'll have to get the car towed to the nearest Apple windshield dealership for replacement of your $5000 windshield.


That's not funny. It's true. And you idiots will buy it too. There's nothing funny about any of it.

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2020-11-28 10:53:02 AM  

cryinoutloud: I think a replacement windshield wiper is about $40 now, when I used to buy little plastic blades that cost about $4.
And you know, my windshields have never been worth more.


I want whatever you're on.  Last time I grabbed wipers at Costco they were $14ish, and they were the fancy rainx ones that applied the coating whenever you used them.


Hell even got desperate one year and grabbed one from the dealer, still came out to $18.
 
2020-11-28 11:24:03 AM  

edmo: Apple Windshields would work by self-detecting cracks, even ones so small you can't see them. It will then revert to the default, power-off windshield setting of "iOpaque." You'll have to get the car towed to the nearest Apple windshield dealership for replacement of your $5000 windshield.


I know that this is illustrating absurdity by being absurd, but this is Apples' endgame.
 
2020-11-28 11:53:06 AM  

freakdiablo: cryinoutloud: I think a replacement windshield wiper is about $40 now, when I used to buy little plastic blades that cost about $4.
And you know, my windshields have never been worth more.

I want whatever you're on.  Last time I grabbed wipers at Costco they were $14ish, and they were the fancy rainx ones that applied the coating whenever you used them.


Hell even got desperate one year and grabbed one from the dealer, still came out to $18.


If you dig around you can still find replacement wiper edges for about 1/3 the price of a full replacement wiper blade ($10 to do both blades)
For about $5 you can buy a tool that will recut the wiper edge, extending the useful life of a wiper blade

For 90% of drivers this window tech will just result in another ignored warning light on the dash.
 
2020-11-28 12:33:41 PM  
Remember when Chevrolet had the radio antenna in the windshield?
 
2020-11-28 1:01:37 PM  

fat boy: Remember when Chevrolet had the radio antenna in the windshield?


If the radio didn't work did the president of Chevrolet say "you're driving it wrong."?

IDRTFA, but if this for some type of HUD, it should be projected onto the windshield not be contained in the windshield itself.
 
2020-11-28 1:06:43 PM  

Jones_Boy: The patent doesn't say anything about automotive windshields. Just vehicle windows, which is a much broader concept. This idea makes sense for airplanes or space vehicles that would benefit from ensuring the structural integrity and clartity of the windows.


Well, of course. Subby was busy twisting this into an anti-Apple headline. Facts don't matter to him.
 
2020-11-28 2:30:01 PM  
Folks do know that having a patent is a bit more than 'I plan to make this', but more 'I plan to profit should someone make this', right?
 
2020-11-28 2:46:29 PM  

Bslim: "Some folks, unfortunately, need to be prodded, and that's part of the idea here too, as the application goes onto explain"

GFY, dude.


It's not very difficult to connect the device to a cattle prod.
 
2020-11-28 5:34:31 PM  

snarfblam: So, as a former glass-replacer-dude, this idea sounds mostly absurd to me. We already have windshields with metallic coatings (you'll occasionally notice windshields with a bright blueish or purplish sheen on a sunny day) and fine wire meshes (Land Rovers and Jaguars in particular often come with heated windshields-obnoxious to drive on a sunny day, all the little squiggly wires catch the sunlight). If a rock chip doesn't interfere with these features, the resin used to repair the rock chips surely will. When it comes to glass claims, insurance companies will still try to push chip repairs, but I've never seen an insurance company say no when replacement was insisted upon because you're not supposed to repair them.

A feature like this might render every windshield non-repairable, so what's the benefit? Okay, you get a chip around the edges of the glass or down low. Now you can know it's damaged before you can see it, but you can't repair it anyways. Just one more thing to nag you about? I got in my car this morning and started driving. I couldn't change the station or otherwise operate the radio until I took my eyes off the road long enough to acknowledge that my tire pressure was low (it was a cold morning), that my brakes would need replacement soon, and that I shouldn't let myself become distracted by the computer that was demanding my attention.

I feel like all we're really doing with all these "smart" features is inventing more stupid problems.


What are your thoughts on this product?
https://madico.com/dealers/automotive​/​windshield-protection/clearplex

It's an aftermarket product that adheres to the existing windshield.  Thinking of putting one on my Jeep since I've been through two windshields in the past year.
 
2020-11-28 8:06:53 PM  

scanman61: I don't know if it's the wrong color, wrong refractive index or just not the correct "lens" for the camera but the won't calibrate correctly.


OEMs cite distortions from curvature that deviates from the OE standard as well as inferior mounting hardware. Mounting hardware is a more common issue. You can buy a windshield from the same manufacturer the car maker uses, but the pre-installed mounting hardware is still aftermarket. It's commonly misaligned or poorly secured. On the other hand, optical quality is something you can't really gauge with the naked eye, though these days there's a lot of cheapo glass with easily noticeable distortion looking through the glass.

BunkyBrewman: What are your thoughts on this product?
https://madico.com/dealers/automotive/​windshield-protection/clearplex

It's an aftermarket product that adheres to the existing windshield.  Thinking of putting one on my Jeep since I've been through two windshields in the past year.


For most cars I probably wouldn't recommend it, but if you have a vehicle with an upright windshield (Wrangler, Element, G-Class, etc.) and it makes sense price-wise it's probably a good investment. A lot of Jeep owners just wait until they're due for a safety inspection to keep it down to one replacement per year.
 
2020-11-29 8:05:36 AM  

SumoJeb: freakdiablo: cryinoutloud: I think a replacement windshield wiper is about $40 now, when I used to buy little plastic blades that cost about $4.
And you know, my windshields have never been worth more.

I want whatever you're on.  Last time I grabbed wipers at Costco they were $14ish, and they were the fancy rainx ones that applied the coating whenever you used them.


Hell even got desperate one year and grabbed one from the dealer, still came out to $18.

If you dig around you can still find replacement wiper edges for about 1/3 the price of a full replacement wiper blade ($10 to do both blades)
For about $5 you can buy a tool that will recut the wiper edge, extending the useful life of a wiper blade

For 90% of drivers this window tech will just result in another ignored warning light on the dash.


Yup, this. I replace my two front and one rear blades with OEM parts from an online Honda reseller. Comes out to about 15$ with shipping. Much cheaper than replacing the entire thing.
 
2020-11-29 8:30:58 AM  

snarfblam: scanman61: I don't know if it's the wrong color, wrong refractive index or just not the correct "lens" for the camera but the won't calibrate correctly.

OEMs cite distortions from curvature that deviates from the OE standard as well as inferior mounting hardware. Mounting hardware is a more common issue. You can buy a windshield from the same manufacturer the car maker uses, but the pre-installed mounting hardware is still aftermarket. It's commonly misaligned or poorly secured. On the other hand, optical quality is something you can't really gauge with the naked eye, though these days there's a lot of cheapo glass with easily noticeable distortion looking through the glass.

BunkyBrewman: What are your thoughts on this product?
https://madico.com/dealers/automotive/​windshield-protection/clearplex

It's an aftermarket product that adheres to the existing windshield.  Thinking of putting one on my Jeep since I've been through two windshields in the past year.

For most cars I probably wouldn't recommend it, but if you have a vehicle with an upright windshield (Wrangler, Element, G-Class, etc.) and it makes sense price-wise it's probably a good investment. A lot of Jeep owners just wait until they're due for a safety inspection to keep it down to one replacement per year.


lol, exactly what I did... wait until the inspection to replace the windshield.

Thanks for the advice, for the cost of that product it seems worth the risk.  It's sure a lot cheaper than a Jeep Gorilla glass windshield if I were to upgrade to that.
 
2020-11-29 1:08:31 PM  

Another Government Employee: It bricks the car until it is fixed?


Its all about Freedom

Apples stock owners Freedom anyway.
 
2020-11-29 1:11:32 PM  

snarfblam: So, as a former glass-replacer-dude, this idea sounds mostly absurd to me. We already have windshields with metallic coatings (you'll occasionally notice windshields with a bright blueish or purplish sheen on a sunny day) and fine wire meshes (Land Rovers and Jaguars in particular often come with heated windshields-obnoxious to drive on a sunny day, all the little squiggly wires catch the sunlight). If a rock chip doesn't interfere with these features, the resin used to repair the rock chips surely will. When it comes to glass claims, insurance companies will still try to push chip repairs, but I've never seen an insurance company say no when replacement was insisted upon because you're not supposed to repair them.

A feature like this might render every windshield non-repairable, so what's the benefit? Okay, you get a chip around the edges of the glass or down low. Now you can know it's damaged before you can see it, but you can't repair it anyways. Just one more thing to nag you about? I got in my car this morning and started driving. I couldn't change the station or otherwise operate the radio until I took my eyes off the road long enough to acknowledge that my tire pressure was low (it was a cold morning), that my brakes would need replacement soon, and that I shouldn't let myself become distracted by the computer that was demanding my attention.

I feel like all we're really doing with all these "smart" features is inventing more stupid problems.


Its called Over Engineering.

It benefits companies and their sit at home stock owners more than customers.
 
2020-11-29 1:13:26 PM  

Bslim: snarfblam: So, as a former glass-replacer-dude, this idea sounds mostly absurd to me. We already have windshields with metallic coatings (you'll occasionally notice windshields with a bright blueish or purplish sheen on a sunny day) and fine wire meshes (Land Rovers and Jaguars in particular often come with heated windshields-obnoxious to drive on a sunny day, all the little squiggly wires catch the sunlight). If a rock chip doesn't interfere with these features, the resin used to repair the rock chips surely will. When it comes to glass claims, insurance companies will still try to push chip repairs, but I've never seen an insurance company say no when replacement was insisted upon because you're not supposed to repair them.

A feature like this might render every windshield non-repairable, so what's the benefit? Okay, you get a chip around the edges of the glass or down low. Now you can know it's damaged before you can see it, but you can't repair it anyways. Just one more thing to nag you about? I got in my car this morning and started driving. I couldn't change the station or otherwise operate the radio until I took my eyes off the road long enough to acknowledge that my tire pressure was low (it was a cold morning), that my brakes would need replacement soon, and that I shouldn't let myself become distracted by the computer that was demanding my attention.

I feel like all we're really doing with all these "smart" features is inventing more stupid problems.

And yet, all those, expensive, annoying AF features and people aint driving any better.


So

Sit at home stock owners are getting more free capital gains money.

Everyone wins!!
 
2020-11-29 1:14:31 PM  

cryinoutloud: I think a replacement windshield wiper is about $40 now, when I used to buy little plastic blades that cost about $4.
And you know, my windshields have never been worth more.

edmo: Apple Windshields would work by self-detecting cracks, even ones so small you can't see them. It will then revert to the default, power-off windshield setting of "iOpaque." You'll have to get the car towed to the nearest Apple windshield dealership for replacement of your $5000 windshield.

That's not funny. It's true. And you idiots will buy it too. There's nothing funny about any of it.

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Fools and their money are soon parted.
 
2020-11-29 1:16:31 PM  

ColdFusion: Folks do know that having a patent is a bit more than 'I plan to make this', but more 'I plan to profit should someone make this', right?


Free money for stock owners.
 
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