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2020-11-27 11:37:57 PM  
That show failed to earn its place in this crowded world.
 
2020-11-27 11:51:59 PM  
I watched the first episode. It wasn't dogshiat, but it wasn't quite enough to get me to go back to the well for more episodes. The most memorable part was a montage of a half-dozen comic convention attendees opening their hotel doors when a stranger knocks, so they could all be shot in the head, which was just so absolutely hilarious in a "this is not at all how people work" way.
 
2020-11-28 12:00:27 AM  
The UK version was far superior. But they cancelled that one too.
 
2020-11-28 12:02:59 AM  
I watched it all the way to the end because, frankly, there ain't much else new... which probably isn't the best endorsement
 
2020-11-28 12:14:24 AM  

RminusQ: I watched the first episode. It wasn't dogshiat, but it wasn't quite enough to get me to go back to the well for more episodes. The most memorable part was a montage of a half-dozen comic convention attendees opening their hotel doors when a stranger knocks, so they could all be shot in the head, which was just so absolutely hilarious in a "this is not at all how people work" way.


I saw random parts in the middle at a friend's place. Because I boycott most television. I only watch it if someone else puts it on.

The episode with a pandemic hoax involving twin girls and one with DHS as a protective blue fairy.

Show gave me the creepy feeling that my boyfriend at the time was actually my handler. Dude dumped the Saturday after the election too, which didn't make that paranoid thought subside.

/New television aggravates psychotic symptoms in me. Makes me feel like it's a response to things I write. I don't like that delusion and I disagree philosophically with the current copyright laws. So I just don't pay to watch and I don't torrent either.
//if I found a used DVD collection of Utopia, I'd buy it for about $15 or less. Must be used.
 
2020-11-28 2:01:53 AM  
I'm just going to assume this was another one of those shiatty remakes where the original UK version was far superior and everyone knew it, not "people were too dumb to get it".

Because 99 times out of a hundred, the original UK version is always superior to the shiatty US remake.
 
2020-11-28 4:49:19 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: I'm just going to assume this was another one of those shiatty remakes where the original UK version was far superior and everyone knew it, not "people were too dumb to get it".

Because 99 times out of a hundred, the original UK version is always superior to the shiatty US remake.


The biggest exception I can think of is All in the Family.
 
2020-11-28 5:00:02 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: FirstNationalBastard: I'm just going to assume this was another one of those shiatty remakes where the original UK version was far superior and everyone knew it, not "people were too dumb to get it".

Because 99 times out of a hundred, the original UK version is always superior to the shiatty US remake.

The biggest exception I can think of is All in the Family.


Sanford & Son (Steptoe & Son)
Three's Company (Man About The House)
 
2020-11-28 5:17:42 AM  
Well I was gonna start watching it next week, guess I don't have to now.
 
2020-11-28 5:44:07 AM  

groppet: Well I was gonna start watching it next week, guess I don't have to now.


Depends. It's still engaging, but the sequel hook at the end will feel a bit shiatty now.

/I liked it
//Will check out the UK version at some point
///The third slashie earned its place in this crowded world.
 
2020-11-28 5:48:34 AM  
I thought Cusack was great.
 
2020-11-28 5:59:54 AM  
Personally, I enjoy the show and now bummed it is canceled.
 
2020-11-28 6:04:08 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: FirstNationalBastard: I'm just going to assume this was another one of those shiatty remakes where the original UK version was far superior and everyone knew it, not "people were too dumb to get it".

Because 99 times out of a hundred, the original UK version is always superior to the shiatty US remake.

The biggest exception I can think of is All in the Family.


The Office.
 
2020-11-28 6:21:37 AM  
 
2020-11-28 7:43:47 AM  
I watched a few episodes and then I got to the "twins" episode and realized it was going to be one of those shows that is a mystery wrapped in a conspiracy buried in a meatball sub, where everything is the opposite of what it seems, sometimes twice*, and the bad guys are always inexplicably one step ahead and indestructible except when the plot requires the Scooby gang to temporarily outsmart or outfight the Bond villain.

David Fincher should stick to directing music videos, that's really his level, and it doesn't matter that nothing makes sense.


*Yes, I know. But it really does do that.

/Also John Cusack is horribly miscast.
 
2020-11-28 7:47:35 AM  
Gee, maybe the world wasn't really farking interested in a show about heroic fringe conspiracy theorists fighting a global conspiracy of Illuminati using a man-made flu pandemic to depopulate the planet right farking now?
 
2020-11-28 7:51:05 AM  

kryptoknightmare: Gee, maybe the world wasn't really farking interested in a show about heroic fringe conspiracy theorists fighting a global conspiracy of Illuminati using a man-made flu pandemic to depopulate the planet right farking now?


Yes, and: maybe we were also not up for a show where the crazy conspiracy theorists were right all along?
 
2020-11-28 7:54:58 AM  
I watched the entire 1st season, and can't say I am going to miss a 2nd season. Best thing I can say is they should have just made this a short series, no way this story could or should have continued into a 2nd, 3rd, etc. The cast, the writing, the story, all of that just was not there. Especially the cast, I got tired of them after 1st ep
 
2020-11-28 8:19:04 AM  
I didn't like a single one of the characters, especially not the main girl.
 
2020-11-28 8:25:05 AM  
...Thought it was actually pretty decent, and John Cusack was great - somebody needs to tag him as the villain for Bond 26, assuming any of us live that long.
 
2020-11-28 8:42:01 AM  
I've found that when people claim others aren't smart enough to get their favorite show or movie they themselves aren't very smart. I'm looking at you Matrix/Fight Club fans.
 
2020-11-28 8:48:36 AM  
*sigh*
It was another one of those stories in which supposedly smart characters do the stupidest thing possible to make the plot create situations. I F*CKING HAAAAAAAAATE THAT SH*T!
Additionally it had John Cusack *still* channeling his character from Grosse Point Blank for reasons unknown.
 
2020-11-28 9:00:12 AM  
*shrug* I liked it well enough, so did my daughter.  she'll be bummed it got cancelled.
 
2020-11-28 9:26:49 AM  
Meh, it was a fun show to watch stoned.
 
2020-11-28 9:31:48 AM  
I stopped watching after the first big twist. It was gratuitous and unnecessary to prove a stupid point, and showrunners have learned the wrong lesson about building in stakes and removing plot armor.
 
2020-11-28 10:02:48 AM  

born_yesterday: I thought Cusack was great.


He was fantastic but he couldn't carry the show (I made it through all the episodes).  It started OK but then it just started going off the rails as crappily written shows often do where characters make absurd decisions that make no sense for them just to move the plot along.

I wasn't go watch season 2 anyway so they made the right decision.

/Bring Upload back for Season 2
//Resurrect Alpha House
 
2020-11-28 10:15:08 AM  

Bslim: *sigh*
It was another one of those stories in which supposedly smart characters do the stupidest thing possible to make the plot create situations. I F*CKING HAAAAAAAAATE THAT SH*T!
Additionally it had John Cusack *still* channeling his character from Grosse Point Blank for reasons unknown.


Then why do I have you farkied as a Last Jedi fan?
 
2020-11-28 10:19:05 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: I'm just going to assume this was another one of those shiatty remakes where the original UK version was far superior and everyone knew it, not "people were too dumb to get it".

Because 99 times out of a hundred, the original UK version is always superior to the shiatty US remake.


The UK version was definitely better (at least better than the handful of US episodes I saw) but I wouldn't pin that as the reason for lack of interest. The UK version is not very well known, and isn't easily available to watch.
 
2020-11-28 10:22:09 AM  

sleze: born_yesterday: I thought Cusack was great.

He was fantastic but he couldn't carry the show (I made it through all the episodes).  It started OK but then it just started going off the rails as crappily written shows often do where characters make absurd decisions that make no sense for them just to move the plot along.

I wasn't go watch season 2 anyway so they made the right decision.

/Bring Upload back for Season 2
//Resurrect Alpha House


I second alpha house
 
2020-11-28 10:23:38 AM  

Bslim: *sigh*
It was another one of those stories in which supposedly smart characters do the stupidest thing possible to make the plot create situations. I F*CKING HAAAAAAAAATE THAT SH*T!
Additionally it had John Cusack *still* channeling his character from Grosse Point Blank for reasons unknown.


Hah!
 
2020-11-28 11:00:30 AM  
I liked the show. I liked the UK version as well, and particularly the eerie, cool score by Christobal Tapia De Ver. I kept waiting for that theme to kick in and was sad when it didn't.

But John Cusak was a good villain and the lead actress was convincingly ruthless. It's hard to say that one version was better than the other.
 
2020-11-28 11:21:15 AM  
You see me caring? You see me caring about some vapid entertainment that I never heard of, and will never miss?

Because I sense some kind of guilt trip in the headline, like subby wants everyone to feel indebted to Amazon or something, for providing us so much empty-headed entertainment, and empty-headed things to spend our money on. I should feel like I am missing out on the big wide world of entertainment, and possibly I should feel bad about not supporting Amazon and its amazing innovations that make us captives of empty-headed consumption and bad decisions.

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Utopia? That's the opposite of where we're heading, with this kind of thinking. We're headed to the big black hole of shortage and tragedy, but who wants to watch that story? It's just not uplifting enough, with its tale of humans who didn't rise to the occasion, who didn't do the right thing, who didn't heed the warnings, and decided to watch TV and little screens, instead of dealing with the real world.

But who wants to hear that story? Your world likes things that are popular.
 
2020-11-28 11:37:09 AM  

Purple_Urkle: RminusQ: I watched the first episode. It wasn't dogshiat, but it wasn't quite enough to get me to go back to the well for more episodes. The most memorable part was a montage of a half-dozen comic convention attendees opening their hotel doors when a stranger knocks, so they could all be shot in the head, which was just so absolutely hilarious in a "this is not at all how people work" way.

I saw random parts in the middle at a friend's place. Because I boycott most television. I only watch it if someone else puts it on.

The episode with a pandemic hoax involving twin girls and one with DHS as a protective blue fairy.

Show gave me the creepy feeling that my boyfriend at the time was actually my handler. Dude dumped the Saturday after the election too, which didn't make that paranoid thought subside.

/New television aggravates psychotic symptoms in me. Makes me feel like it's a response to things I write. I don't like that delusion and I disagree philosophically with the current copyright laws. So I just don't pay to watch and I don't torrent either.
//if I found a used DVD collection of Utopia, I'd buy it for about $15 or less. Must be used.


if you're not receiving mental health counseling you would really benefit by it. no doubt you've been told this by people close to you. don't ignore it. happy holidays.
 
2020-11-28 11:41:00 AM  
Good concept, but this might be the wrong time to air a show about a deadly virus.
just sayin'
 
2020-11-28 11:47:08 AM  

sinko swimo: Purple_Urkle: RminusQ: I watched the first episode. It wasn't dogshiat, but it wasn't quite enough to get me to go back to the well for more episodes. The most memorable part was a montage of a half-dozen comic convention attendees opening their hotel doors when a stranger knocks, so they could all be shot in the head, which was just so absolutely hilarious in a "this is not at all how people work" way.

I saw random parts in the middle at a friend's place. Because I boycott most television. I only watch it if someone else puts it on.

The episode with a pandemic hoax involving twin girls and one with DHS as a protective blue fairy.

Show gave me the creepy feeling that my boyfriend at the time was actually my handler. Dude dumped the Saturday after the election too, which didn't make that paranoid thought subside.

/New television aggravates psychotic symptoms in me. Makes me feel like it's a response to things I write. I don't like that delusion and I disagree philosophically with the current copyright laws. So I just don't pay to watch and I don't torrent either.
//if I found a used DVD collection of Utopia, I'd buy it for about $15 or less. Must be used.

if you're not receiving mental health counseling you would really benefit by it. no doubt you've been told this by people close to you. don't ignore it. happy holidays.


That comment was so insane I had to make sure Harleyquin Hypnotic didn't write it.
 
2020-11-28 11:55:26 AM  
That girl Jessica always look like she need a shower
 
2020-11-28 12:08:53 PM  
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Oops! Wrong planet.
 
2020-11-28 12:28:31 PM  
That's a shame. Was looking forward to season two.
 
2020-11-28 1:48:21 PM  
It was a mess of remake, the UK version was great. It had so much potential but it was wasted.
 
2020-11-28 2:24:44 PM  

HugeMistake: I watched a few episodes and then I got to the "twins" episode and realized it was going to be one of those shows that is a mystery wrapped in a conspiracy buried in a meatball sub, where everything is the opposite of what it seems, sometimes twice*, and the bad guys are always inexplicably one step ahead and indestructible except when the plot requires the Scooby gang to temporarily outsmart or outfight the Bond villain.

David Fincher should stick to directing music videos, that's really his level, and it doesn't matter that nothing makes sense.


*Yes, I know. But it really does do that.

/Also John Cusack is horribly miscast.


It was about as complicated as an episode of scooby doo.

I did enjoy the off screen, totally against established character, conversion of one character.

Cusack was the only one who managed to act.
 
2020-11-28 2:45:35 PM  
I binged it in a day. It was interesting at times and I did enjoy the premise but it had some fairly irritating characters that I found myself fast forwarding through because it was too tedious.  I feel it could be salvaged with another season as the premise was just mysterious enough for me. Oh well, there's other stuff to watch.
 
2020-11-28 2:53:19 PM  

sinko swimo: Purple_Urkle: RminusQ: I watched the first episode. It wasn't dogshiat, but it wasn't quite enough to get me to go back to the well for more episodes. The most memorable part was a montage of a half-dozen comic convention attendees opening their hotel doors when a stranger knocks, so they could all be shot in the head, which was just so absolutely hilarious in a "this is not at all how people work" way.

I saw random parts in the middle at a friend's place. Because I boycott most television. I only watch it if someone else puts it on.

The episode with a pandemic hoax involving twin girls and one with DHS as a protective blue fairy.

Show gave me the creepy feeling that my boyfriend at the time was actually my handler. Dude dumped the Saturday after the election too, which didn't make that paranoid thought subside.

/New television aggravates psychotic symptoms in me. Makes me feel like it's a response to things I write. I don't like that delusion and I disagree philosophically with the current copyright laws. So I just don't pay to watch and I don't torrent either.
//if I found a used DVD collection of Utopia, I'd buy it for about $15 or less. Must be used.

if you're not receiving mental health counseling you would really benefit by it. no doubt you've been told this by people close to you. don't ignore it. happy holidays.


That won't make any difference fyi.  It takes internal motivation to actually go get help.  He/she knows there is a problem but won't go get help.  It's like a cancer patient watching the tumor grow but not going to a doctor.  Aka watching stupid in action.

And yeah dealt with enough people who refused to seek help. *Waves at (peoples) graves* And personally seen half a dozen different mental health specialists over the years, because life is hard and complex and you are never taught how to deal with it.  God farking forbid i use a professional.
 
2020-11-28 2:56:46 PM  
 I look forward to the future stories of aliens, zombies or viruses where half the population call it a hoax and do everything they can to make things worse/help the invaders. Nobody will believe that during a global crisis, humanity will pull together to defeat the common threat.
 
2020-11-28 3:08:19 PM  
A total waste of the girlfriend from Raising Hope whose name I won't look up.
 
2020-11-28 3:09:34 PM  
I did like the guy from Easy A and that shoe about the middle eastern exchange student in Wisconsin. Neither of whose names I will look up.
 
2020-11-28 3:16:04 PM  

schubie: A total waste of the girlfriend from Raising Hope whose name I won't look up.


Shannon Woodward wasn't in Utopia.
 
2020-11-28 3:18:58 PM  

schubie: A total waste of the girlfriend from Raising Hope whose name I won't look up.


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2020-11-28 3:21:08 PM  

cryinoutloud: You see me caring? You see me caring about some vapid entertainment that I never heard of, and will never miss?

Because I sense some kind of guilt trip in the headline, like subby wants everyone to feel indebted to Amazon or something, for providing us so much empty-headed entertainment, and empty-headed things to spend our money on. I should feel like I am missing out on the big wide world of entertainment, and possibly I should feel bad about not supporting Amazon and its amazing innovations that make us captives of empty-headed consumption and bad decisions.

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Utopia? That's the opposite of where we're heading, with this kind of thinking. We're headed to the big black hole of shortage and tragedy, but who wants to watch that story? It's just not uplifting enough, with its tale of humans who didn't rise to the occasion, who didn't do the right thing, who didn't heed the warnings, and decided to watch TV and little screens, instead of dealing with the real world.

But who wants to hear that story? Your world likes things that are popular.


A species that firms friendships and tribes to cooperate likes things that are popular, which is literally just a word that means "liked by a lot of people"?

Quite the insight.

/Should people save for retirement?
 
2020-11-28 4:18:30 PM  
That reminds me, I'm really sad they cancelled Patriot after two seasons.  I love that  we got two seasons, but a third would have allowed the show to wrap it all up.  I can't blame Amazon wholly for their choice, the show's really difficult to sum up for people and no one wants to watch it.

/I'm not doing Double Great thinking about it
 
2020-11-28 4:24:54 PM  
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