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2020-11-27 8:52:47 PM  
Typical move. Cut taxes on the rich and spend more while they have power, biatch about the debt crisis but refuse to raise taxes when the democrats have the advantage. The time bomb for the non-rich in their tax cut is due to go off soon, and the democrats will get the blame. And, of course, they'll be going after Social Security and Medicare.
 
2020-11-27 9:04:03 PM  
It'll be a typical move on their part and they've been making noise to that effect for the better part of six months. Somehow I think this has gone far enough that it may garner an a - typical response.
 
2020-11-27 9:04:18 PM  
The $64 billion question is how legitimate are the worries? You can ignore a lot of shiat for four years but there are some things you eventually have to square.

It's going to take at least another 12-18 months just to accurately gauge the impact of the prior four years.
 
2020-11-27 9:05:49 PM  
We don't have a spending problem, we have a revenue problem. The GOP broke the bank - Time to raise taxes on their wealthy donor base.
 
2020-11-27 9:34:12 PM  
A deficit is a word that a Republican says because they can't say the "N" word instead.
 
2020-11-27 10:35:21 PM  
Remember how every 6-9 months, or so, we were facing the debt limit under Obama.  Not hardly a peep about it since Trump has been in office.  (I think they've mostly just been suspending it instead of or raising it to a specific number these last 4 years).

Get ready to start hearing that fight over, and over, and over again now...
 
2020-11-27 11:37:22 PM  
Great. Let's raise taxes to take care of it.
 
2020-11-28 1:15:30 AM  
eat shiat you cocksuckers.
 
2020-11-28 5:26:17 AM  
Lol. - no one who threw unlimited stupid money at the Iraq War never gets to complain about deficits again.
 
2020-11-28 6:21:00 AM  
Laugh them out of the room.
 
2020-11-28 6:24:20 AM  
Fortunately for the gop the goldfish like memory of the American public will enable this to work. Again.
 
2020-11-28 6:28:19 AM  
Republicans are practitioners of Dine & Dash economics.  Spend money, run off without paying for it.
 
2020-11-28 6:29:01 AM  
Biden should simply recite the following list of names whenever one of these douchebags even mentions the word "debt" or "deficit."

https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2017699​
 
2020-11-28 6:29:17 AM  
Entitlement reform? Go away. Now more than ever, Americans need government assistance to make ends meet. And the disabilities caused by Covid will make everybody's lives more expensive, and with less earning potetnial, for the next 4 or 5 decades.
 
2020-11-28 6:30:23 AM  
Tax cuts for the rich defunded America.
 
2020-11-28 6:36:03 AM  

Purple_Urkle: Tax cuts for the rich defunded America.


Elephant out front shoulda told ya.
 
2020-11-28 6:37:41 AM  
Excellent. Kennedy era tax rates on the top ten percent and Democrats don't shiat in your face on the floor by bringing up all your spending bills you voted for under Trump that saw it go to no one but Trump Inc. and his cronies.
 
2020-11-28 6:39:06 AM  
Keep reaching across the aisle Biden, they are just about to come around to giving you part of what you want. Sucker.
 
2020-11-28 6:40:04 AM  
If you want to negotiate with conservatives, you have to shank them in their kidneys first.
 
2020-11-28 6:40:46 AM  
"I think that's kind of getting back to our DNA. ...I think spending, entitlement reform, growth and the economy are all things that we're going to have to be focused on next year and, yeah, I would expect you'll hear a lot more about that," said Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), the No. 2 Senate Republican.

I find it difficult to express my disgust for Thune in words. Perhaps an small animated image could help me get my point across.

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/Yes, we realize everyone has been left hurting by the disaster left behind by president... hmm, don't recall, think it started with a "T," but there's just no money left to help.
 
2020-11-28 6:45:33 AM  
I wish journalists would just call these lying assholes out by explaining that the only welfare Republicans have any interest in targeting is that which helps Joe/Jane Average.  All regurgitating this mealy mouthed bullshiat about "entitlements" does is spread the lie farther.
 
2020-11-28 6:46:56 AM  
I guess the GOP never tires of being predictable.  Sad.
 
2020-11-28 6:48:42 AM  
Kevin Cramer (R): "To be honest with you, you've seen the last of Republicans passing giant packages."

Let me stop you right there.
 
2020-11-28 6:58:46 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: Entitlement reform? Go away. Now more than ever, Americans need government assistance to make ends meet. And the disabilities caused by Covid will make everybody's lives more expensive, and with less earning potetnial, for the next 4 or 5 decades.


If you want to know their plan for how they want the COVID disabled to be supported, look at how they supported the disabled before COVID.

They didn't.
 
2020-11-28 6:58:55 AM  
Get back to me on this after the Georgia run-offs.
 
2020-11-28 7:04:29 AM  
So about the time the  vaccine is ready for distribution, a government shutdown will prevent it from being distributed (except to the Right People of course). That's my $20 bet.
 
2020-11-28 7:07:31 AM  
F***. Them. In the ear.
 
2020-11-28 7:07:46 AM  
Tell them to go piss up a rope. If the GOP blocks a tax hike in the Senate, make up the revenue with unilateral agriculture export tariffs.

The president can impose tariffs if he's feeling pissy, without Congressional consent. That's the rule we agreed to under Donald.
 
2020-11-28 7:07:47 AM  
1. Raise taxes on the wealthy.

2. Cut growth in military spending. Notice I didn't say "Cut military spending".

3. Profit.
 
2020-11-28 7:12:26 AM  
Well, you care about the deficit mostly when you're not getting most of it.
 
2020-11-28 7:15:02 AM  
Binge and purge, the GOP mandate, at the cost of tax payers.
 
2020-11-28 7:16:45 AM  
I must say, I am very disappointed in the Biden administration's failure to balance the budget over the last four years.
 
2020-11-28 7:19:40 AM  
Can we also cut out a bunch of tax loopholes for the rich?

I seem to remember Lee Iaccoca's book where he talks about how Henry Ford laughed about not paying a ton of taxes. According to the book IIRC, the tax rate at the time was 90%.
 
2020-11-28 7:25:43 AM  

A General Disdain For All Of Humanity: Can we also cut out a bunch of tax loopholes for the rich?

I seem to remember Lee Iaccoca's book where he talks about how Henry Ford laughed about not paying a ton of taxes. According to the book IIRC, the tax rate at the time was 90%.


Biden is undoing the Trump* tax-cuts in the first 100 days.

/they just said so
 
2020-11-28 7:29:06 AM  
GOP senators say they expect to refocus on curbing the nation's debt and reforming entitlement programs starting in 2021

Well, they can't afford to fix entitlement programs NOW. Some asshole ran up the debt!
 
2020-11-28 7:36:57 AM  

NobleHam: I must say, I am very disappointed in the Biden administration's failure to balance the budget over the last four years.


This is funny until you realize that there's a substantial portion of your population who actually think this way, and this is the group that roughly half your senate is elected from.
 
2020-11-28 7:39:24 AM  

A General Disdain For All Of Humanity: Can we also cut out a bunch of tax loopholes for the rich?

I seem to remember Lee Iaccoca's book where he talks about how Henry Ford laughed about not paying a ton of taxes. According to the book IIRC, the tax rate at the time was 90%.


The problem isn't that the tax rates are too low on anybody who works for a living - even athletes and movie stars.
The problem is that those who live by owning things instead of working pay only a fraction of the stated tax rates on earnings.
 
2020-11-28 7:41:18 AM  
This cycle of spend like drunken sailors until (D) is in office is going to catch up, well it already is catching up to us. Tragedy here is that it works on millions of Americans, just like millions actually thought Man-baby was a good choice in 2016, and millions more again in 2020.

Open democracy just does not work, letting everyone vote no matter how ignorant or deplorable they are gives you the ignorant and deplorable government you deserve. Except there are millions who innocently suffer because of it. Tyranny of the stupid should not exist, I hope future generations realize to roll back this free for all voting and let those qualified and competent vote. This may benefit one party for an election or two, but it is the only way to have a democracy where debate relies on intelligence and not on how much one side can whip up the ignorant and stupid.
 
2020-11-28 7:41:59 AM  
It's so predictable for these hypocritical cloacas.
 
2020-11-28 7:44:08 AM  
"We tried to get working class Americans more relief to deal with the COVID-19 crisis. But Republicans will not allow any relief from the pandemic they ignored. Senator McConnell would rather see Americans die than negotiate."
- President Joe Biden

Go ahead and fark around Republicans and see what happens.
 
2020-11-28 7:44:33 AM  

Stands With A Tiny Fist: NobleHam: I must say, I am very disappointed in the Biden administration's failure to balance the budget over the last four years.

This is funny until you realize that there's a substantial portion of your population who actually think this way, and this is the group that roughly half your senate is elected from.


Same idiots who criticised Obama for not doing enough for those affected by Hurricane Katrina.
 
2020-11-28 7:45:22 AM  

ssa5: This cycle of spend like drunken sailors until (D) is in office is going to catch up, well it already is catching up to us. Tragedy here is that it works on millions of Americans, just like millions actually thought Man-baby was a good choice in 2016, and millions more again in 2020.

Open democracy just does not work, letting everyone vote no matter how ignorant or deplorable they are gives you the ignorant and deplorable government you deserve. Except there are millions who innocently suffer because of it. Tyranny of the stupid should not exist, I hope future generations realize to roll back this free for all voting and let those qualified and competent vote. This may benefit one party for an election or two, but it is the only way to have a democracy where debate relies on intelligence and not on how much one side can whip up the ignorant and stupid.


Who decides who is ignorant and stupid?
 
2020-11-28 7:46:41 AM  
The solution to this is executive orders.  The Democrats main problem is that they want to be liked by the republicans.  They want to reach across the isle and find common ground.  Trump showed us the way.  Don't even talk to them, and don't care what they want.  Ignore them and start the executive order avalanche
 
2020-11-28 7:47:16 AM  
Besides deficits they will also become very concerned about COVID deaths, mask mandates and no doubt be screaming about why no one is ordering a nationwide lockdown.
 
2020-11-28 7:47:51 AM  

ssa5: This cycle of spend like drunken sailors until (D) is in office is going to catch up, well it already is catching up to us. Tragedy here is that it works on millions of Americans, just like millions actually thought Man-baby was a good choice in 2016, and millions more again in 2020.

Open democracy just does not work, letting everyone vote no matter how ignorant or deplorable they are gives you the ignorant and deplorable government you deserve. Except there are millions who innocently suffer because of it. Tyranny of the stupid should not exist, I hope future generations realize to roll back this free for all voting and let those qualified and competent vote. This may benefit one party for an election or two, but it is the only way to have a democracy where debate relies on intelligence and not on how much one side can whip up the ignorant and stupid.


This is why we have a republic.
The idea is to elect qualified and competent people who vote on your behalf.

But as the public sector grew larger, more powerful, and more monied, the people discovered that, although they couldnt vote themselves money directly, they could vote for people who vote them money. Not necessarily quslified or competent though.

And so we have a Speaker of the House who has never proposed a budget, and a president who exploded the deficit after promising to eliminate it.  Yes he actually promised that.
 
2020-11-28 7:49:55 AM  

IamTomJoad: Besides deficits they will also become very concerned about COVID deaths, mask mandates and no doubt be screaming about why no one is ordering a nationwide lockdown.


And say they will fight to the death to resist a lockdown when it gets here.. while doing nothing but tweeting from home.
 
2020-11-28 7:57:23 AM  
I rubbed a Republican co-worker's face in this recently. Whenever he complained about the deficit under Obama, I pointed out the record deficits under Bush II and how quiet the complaint went under Trump.

The best he could reply was: "both parties are hypocritical about the deficit."

"Democrats don't pretend it's a gigantic problem when they're out of power." I replied. "It's time to recognize the Republican's deficit-complaining for what it is."

And he still won't.
 
2020-11-28 7:59:56 AM  

Alphax: IamTomJoad: Besides deficits they will also become very concerned about COVID deaths, mask mandates and no doubt be screaming about why no one is ordering a nationwide lockdown.

And say they will fight to the death to resist a lockdown when it gets here.. while doing nothing but tweeting from home.


I disagree, since they believe that lockdowns are only in place to punish small business and make they President look bad....they will be all for them.
 
2020-11-28 8:00:37 AM  
Aaaaand all of the centrists who held their nose and voted for Biden because they didn't like Trump now go right back to being Republicans. Say what you will about their evil tactics but they are certainly shrewd operators.
 
2020-11-28 8:01:04 AM  
Cool, we're cutting the military.  Especially the factories in GOP districts.  Suck it.
 
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