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2020-11-27 5:55:08 PM  
OMFG!!!11!!!! This is it! This is the End of our Freedumbs!! Time to boogaloo everyone!!!11!!!

Wow. Some of those policies will really help me and my lower middle class friends...

WHARGARBLL!!111!!! FUXK THAT SOZIALISMS SHEEROT!!11!! BURN IT ALL DOWN!!1!!! I DON'T WANT TO PAY TAXES AND BE BURDONED BY REGULATIONS WHEN I BECOME A BILLIONAIRE CEO!!!1!!!

*GOP Narrator: In a world where everyone who  works really hard becomes a billionaire CEO...
 
2020-11-27 7:30:25 PM  

phrawgh: OMFG!!!11!!!! This is it! This is the End of our Freedumbs!! Time to boogaloo everyone!!!11!!!

Wow. Some of those policies will really help me and my lower middle class friends...

WHARGARBLL!!111!!! FUXK THAT SOZIALISMS SHEEROT!!11!! BURN IT ALL DOWN!!1!!! I DON'T WANT TO PAY TAXES AND BE BURDONED BY REGULATIONS WHEN I BECOME A BILLIONAIRE CEO!!!1!!!

*GOP Narrator: In a world where everyone who  works really hard becomes a billionaire CEO...


America's temporarily embarrassed Billionaires hate anything that would benefit them.
 
2020-11-27 8:01:23 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: phrawgh: OMFG!!!11!!!! This is it! This is the End of our Freedumbs!! Time to boogaloo everyone!!!11!!!

Wow. Some of those policies will really help me and my lower middle class friends...

WHARGARBLL!!111!!! FUXK THAT SOZIALISMS SHEEROT!!11!! BURN IT ALL DOWN!!1!!! I DON'T WANT TO PAY TAXES AND BE BURDONED BY REGULATIONS WHEN I BECOME A BILLIONAIRE CEO!!!1!!!

*GOP Narrator: In a world where everyone who  works really hard becomes a billionaire CEO...

America's temporarily embarrassed Billionaires hate anything that would benefit them.



These always come to mind...
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2020-11-27 8:09:04 PM  
UNIONIZE EVERYTHING

(except the pigs)
 
2020-11-27 8:10:27 PM  
Do not worry, the business friendly SCOTUS will strike down these reasonable measure in the name of things that are not really in the constitution.

For example, money is speech and a religion so you cannot have unions because that may decrease the freedoms of billionaires.
 
2020-11-27 8:12:37 PM  
Policies that benefit workers? That's the very definition of socialist communist fascism that will spell the immediate end of the Republic. Good thing Our Great President-God-Emperor will be removing the gold from Fort Knox for safe storage in Trump Dubai under Jesus' watchful eye.

/to those of you who voted for him, this is known as "sarcasm"
//you can look it up on google
///you don't even know there have to be three slashies, do you
 
2020-11-27 8:13:15 PM  
As Hitler said (Mein Kampf, Vol. I) - unions are very important.  Those of us who have worked for example, in an office environment as part of a huge company, will know the way in which junior supervisors or managers can prove themselves unworthy of their surprisingly powerful positions, and attempt to use unsafe disciplinary remedies to advance or restrict the prospects of those under them.   The question is whether your union laws have undergone the changes that the UK found necessary in the 1980's to ensure that they are truly representative of the workforce.   In addition, there are certain positions which should not be allowed to unionise in the normal manner:  Armed forces, Police, and Casino staff.
 
2020-11-27 8:16:02 PM  
In the US, the only thing more remarkable than the effort to disdain public health care is the de-legitimization of unions. It really is honestly and truly amazing how corporations, buying politicians, have ensured that blue collar workers will vote against their best interests again and again, year after year, decade after decade.
 
2020-11-27 8:17:20 PM  
He's sending the vanquished to labor in the salt mines?
 
2020-11-27 8:17:22 PM  

austerity101: UNIONIZE EVERYTHING

(except the pigs)


10 minutes later:
I can't afford a plumber to fix my toilet because of union rates! The government should pay for my toilet to get fixed.
 
2020-11-27 8:18:40 PM  

phrawgh: OMFG!!!11!!!! This is it! This is the End of our Freedumbs!! Time to boogaloo everyone!!!11!!!

Wow. Some of those policies will really help me and my lower middle class friends...

WHARGARBLL!!111!!! FUXK THAT SOZIALISMS SHEEROT!!11!! BURN IT ALL DOWN!!1!!! I DON'T WANT TO PAY TAXES AND BE BURDONED BY REGULATIONS WHEN I BECOME A BILLIONAIRE CEO!!!1!!!

*GOP Narrator: In a world where everyone who  works really hard becomes a billionaire CEO...


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2020-11-27 8:18:48 PM  

starsrift: In the US, the only thing more remarkable than the effort to disdain public health care is the de-legitimization of unions. It really is honestly and truly amazing how corporations, buying politicians, have ensured that blue collar workers will vote against their best interests again and again, year after year, decade after decade.


The cultlike belief among America's exploited that they are actually temporarily embarrassed millionaires is the greatest gift crony capitalists could ever have asked for, and one they are delighted to fuel.
 
2020-11-27 8:21:26 PM  

erik-k: starsrift: In the US, the only thing more remarkable than the effort to disdain public health care is the de-legitimization of unions. It really is honestly and truly amazing how corporations, buying politicians, have ensured that blue collar workers will vote against their best interests again and again, year after year, decade after decade.

The cultlike belief among America's exploited that they are actually temporarily embarrassed millionaires is the greatest gift crony capitalists could ever have asked for, and one they are delighted to fuel.


I'll never forget an anecdote my friend's dad told me. A union rep tried to tell him "we're trying to protect you from the company," and he said "I am the company!"

Anyway, Union Pacific laid him off several years ago, despite record profits.
 
2020-11-27 8:22:43 PM  
Dont worry, Trump is gonna start a war with Iran and all those plans will go right in the trash.
 
2020-11-27 8:23:49 PM  
"President-elect Joe Biden is expected to push to make it easier for workers to unionize and hold employers accountable for working conditions, a sharp U-turn from the business-friendly employment policies pursued by President Donald Trump" every single Republican since the party started.

I can't think of any Republican who has not tried to or managed to take power and rights away from workers for the past 100 years. Certainly since WWII, labor has been getting pushed off the cliff. Republicans know how to keep the boot on.

And there's this hilarious bit at the end:

Scabby the Rat

The fate of the snarling inflatable rats that often show up at picket lines as a symbol of labor strife could depend on the composition of the NLRB.

The agency is considering whether to crack down on their use, which the NLRB's Trump-appointed general counsel has argued is unlawful under the National Labor Relations Act and not protected by the First Amendment because the rats are used to "menace, intimidate and coerce."


Protests with rat-shaped balloons? Scary! Terrible! Ban 'em! No First Amendment for you!

Protests with loaded guns and death threats? Freedom! Mah rights! Shall not be infringed!

What a bunch of snowflakes.

Compromise? Give the balloon rats guns. Everybody wins!
 
2020-11-27 8:24:15 PM  
You ever notice that in basically every single ''deal'' between the government and businesses, its always the CEO and the government. The workers are NEVER EVER represented. EVER.

Until that changes and the workers have as much power as CEOs, the workers will continue to get raped.
 
2020-11-27 8:24:54 PM  
How does he plan on paying for those labor-friendly policies? He needs to worry about the National Debt. Thankfully we have Senate Majority McConnell to remind him that we can't afford... *checks notes*... to do anything Biden wants for the next 4 years.
 
2020-11-27 8:27:19 PM  

austerity101: UNIONIZE EVERYTHING

(except the pigs)


You looking for a biatch slap boy? Cause biatch slap is where you're heading

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2020-11-27 8:29:34 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: austerity101: UNIONIZE EVERYTHING

(except the pigs)

10 minutes later:
I can't afford a plumber to fix my toilet because of union rates! The government should pay for my toilet to get fixed.


Sounds more like you're butthurt because, thanks to a union, someone else has a job that pays a living wage. It's not the plumber's fault that your McJob pays dick, and you can't afford to get those Big Mac shiats unclogged.
 
2020-11-27 8:30:29 PM  
Remember when Obama's NLRB only had 2 members because the Senate kept blocking confirmation preventing them from getting anything done because they couldn't establish a quorum?

You can bet your ass Mitch remembers.
 
2020-11-27 8:30:31 PM  
 
2020-11-27 8:30:59 PM  

nyseattitude: austerity101: UNIONIZE EVERYTHING

(except the pigs)

You looking for a biatch slap boy? Cause biatch slap is where you're heading

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So, like, if you eat Miss Piggy out, does it taste like ham?

If I were Jewish, would that be kosher?
 
2020-11-27 8:31:20 PM  
The same guy that wrote a bankruptcy bill saying low wage Americans are abusing predatory banks is worried about labor?
I'm gonna have to see it to believe it.
 
2020-11-27 8:33:03 PM  
I wonder if we can make Unions a religion to confuse the fark out of conservatives.
 
2020-11-27 8:37:52 PM  

MattytheMouse: erik-k: starsrift: In the US, the only thing more remarkable than the effort to disdain public health care is the de-legitimization of unions. It really is honestly and truly amazing how corporations, buying politicians, have ensured that blue collar workers will vote against their best interests again and again, year after year, decade after decade.

The cultlike belief among America's exploited that they are actually temporarily embarrassed millionaires is the greatest gift crony capitalists could ever have asked for, and one they are delighted to fuel.

I'll never forget an anecdote my friend's dad told me. A union rep tried to tell him "we're trying to protect you from the company," and he said "I am the company!"

Anyway, Union Pacific laid him off several years ago, despite record profits.


Worked for UP 2 years ago. Saw everything was about to massively go in the crapper(despite record profits year after year) and bailed . My 99% Republic coworkers called me dumb for leaving and crazy. A year after I left 90% of the entire shop was laid off and left out in the cold after decades of service.

I guess what im getting at is rail workers are some of the dumbest mf-ers on the planet and constantly voted against their own interests.
 
2020-11-27 8:38:21 PM  

MattytheMouse: erik-k: starsrift: In the US, the only thing more remarkable than the effort to disdain public health care is the de-legitimization of unions. It really is honestly and truly amazing how corporations, buying politicians, have ensured that blue collar workers will vote against their best interests again and again, year after year, decade after decade.

The cultlike belief among America's exploited that they are actually temporarily embarrassed millionaires is the greatest gift crony capitalists could ever have asked for, and one they are delighted to fuel.

I'll never forget an anecdote my friend's dad told me. A union rep tried to tell him "we're trying to protect you from the company," and he said "I am the company!"

Anyway, Union Pacific laid him off several years ago, despite record profits.


This makes me feel the same way I do when people say "the government is the people!" without a hint of irony.
 
2020-11-27 8:38:25 PM  

nyseattitude: austerity101: UNIONIZE EVERYTHING

(except the pigs)

You looking for a biatch slap boy? Cause biatch slap is where you're heading

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2020-11-27 8:41:17 PM  
Ugh. Bernie would have made it so we don't have to work anymore.
 
2020-11-27 8:41:19 PM  
BERNIE LOST
GET OVER IT
 
2020-11-27 8:43:22 PM  

Palined Parenthood: BERNIE LOST
GET OVER IT


It isn't about Bernie. It never has been .
It is about policy Democrats profess to endorse yet abandon once the votes are counted.
 
2020-11-27 8:49:05 PM  
It is high time Democrats remind the lower-middle and tradesfolk that they are their friends.

There are many economic opportunities in the modernization of our infrastructure that will be possible, if the Senate will cooperate.

Wouldn't a nationwide program of wind-farms to provide a part of the power we eat every day be a good thing?

That's a lot of linesmen jobs, a lot of shop jobs and a farking shiat-ton of electrical maintenance jobs.

Combine that with heavy investment of rural areas for cannabis cultivation and maybe some of the legitimate pinch rural America feels will relax enough for them to start articulating what they think will fix the "farking everything" that is broken there.

Because that's the problem. I honestly don't understand what is wrong in that part of America, despite the fact I grew up in that part of America. It's real farked is all I can gather from my extended family, who stayed.
 
2020-11-27 8:50:03 PM  

Palined Parenthood: BERNIE LOST
GET OVER IT


This never fails to make me lol.
 
2020-11-27 8:50:52 PM  

sinner4ever: The same guy that wrote a bankruptcy bill saying low wage Americans are abusing predatory banks is worried about labor?
I'm gonna have to see it to believe it.


Joe Biden could talk your wife into giving you a blowjob and write you a check for a million dollars and you'd still get on Fark to biatch about how it's his fault that she only worked the tip.
 
2020-11-27 8:51:54 PM  
I knew it. Probbaly going to have to gay marry a frog too.
 
2020-11-27 8:54:29 PM  
So I have mixed feelings about unions. I like the idea of evening the negotiation power between employer and employed a great deal. The problem is unions as organizations get subverted into other things. Police unions come to mind particularly but pretty much all of them have had issues with organized crime, protecting the lowest denominator employee and making it hard for rising stars to actually rise (becomes a time in service game, not fact you're greatest talent in the building).  It leaves me conflicted in that I really want the benefits they bring but some of the detriments are just dangerous.

Sure lets unionize all the things... after we adjust a bit just what a union means and is in America.
 
2020-11-27 8:55:52 PM  
Won't somebody please think of the billionaires?!!
 
2020-11-27 8:56:49 PM  
"President-elect Joe Biden is expected to push to make it easier for workers to unionize and hold employers accountable for working conditions, a sharp U-turn from the business-friendly employment policies pursued by President Donald Trump. "

STOP CALLING THEM THIS

OLIGARCH-FRIENDLY EMPLOYMENT POLICIES
AKA
FARK YOU, I GOT MINE
AKA
DADDY NEEDS ANOTHER YACHT BECAUSE BARRY GOT ONE 2 FEET LONGER
 
2020-11-27 9:02:30 PM  

austerity101: UNIONIZE EVERYTHING

(except the pigs)



There are 30 - 50 feral hogs out here. And they've unionized.
 
2020-11-27 9:02:52 PM  
I look forward to the usual BSABSVR shills screaming about how Biden is just a corporate shill who'll never follow through...even though Biden has been blue collar since day one.
 
2020-11-27 9:05:37 PM  

Tarl3k: I look forward to the usual BSABSVR shills screaming about how Biden is just a corporate shill who'll never follow through...even though Biden has been blue collar since day one.


Rahm Emanuel,Comcast,Bloomberg,MBNA
 
2020-11-27 9:07:07 PM  

monsatano: sinner4ever: The same guy that wrote a bankruptcy bill saying low wage Americans are abusing predatory banks is worried about labor?
I'm gonna have to see it to believe it.

Joe Biden could talk your wife into giving you a blowjob and write you a check for a million dollars and you'd still get on Fark to biatch about how it's his fault that she only worked the tip.



His wife already blows him and what good is a check from someone with whom you share a bank account?

Your post is accidentally a perfect metaphor for centrist policy: be thankful we gave you something you already have.
 
2020-11-27 9:09:18 PM  

Tarl3k: I look forward to the usual BSABSVR shills screaming about how Biden is just a corporate shill who'll never follow through...even though Biden has been blue collar since day one.


B-b-b-but he was a UNITED STATES SENATOR for 40 years and VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED FUXKING STATES OF AMERICA and so people were willing to pay him some cheese for speaking and book deals and he now has a net worth of $9 million. SO HE'S A FILTHY CRIMINAL JUST LIKE TRUMP!!!11!!!!
 
2020-11-27 9:09:47 PM  

Tarl3k: I look forward to the usual BSABSVR shills screaming about how Biden is just a corporate shill who'll never follow through...even though Biden has been blue collar since day one.


In 50 years what has he done besides imprison Americans for decades with his crime bill, hurt low wage Americans abused by predatory banks and helped Obama break promises he made in the 2008 campaign as he is toasting China for the jobs they took from Americans with slave labor?
 
2020-11-27 9:09:54 PM  

Captain_Sunshine: "President-elect Joe Biden is expected to push to make it easier for workers to unionize and hold employers accountable for working conditions, a sharp U-turn from the business-friendly employment policies pursued by President Donald Trump" every single Republican since the party started.

I can't think of any Republican who has not tried to or managed to take power and rights away from workers for the past 100 years. Certainly since WWII, labor has been getting pushed off the cliff. Republicans know how to keep the boot on.

And there's this hilarious bit at the end:

Scabby the Rat

The fate of the snarling inflatable rats that often show up at picket lines as a symbol of labor strife could depend on the composition of the NLRB.

The agency is considering whether to crack down on their use, which the NLRB's Trump-appointed general counsel has argued is unlawful under the National Labor Relations Act and not protected by the First Amendment because the rats are used to "menace, intimidate and coerce."

Protests with rat-shaped balloons? Scary! Terrible! Ban 'em! No First Amendment for you!

Protests with loaded guns and death threats? Freedom! Mah rights! Shall not be infringed!

What a bunch of snowflakes.

Compromise? Give the balloon rats guns. Everybody wins!


Maybe Eisenhower, but Eisenhower claimed to be an independent his entire life, untik the moment he ran against Truman because he wanted America out of the Korean War.
 
2020-11-27 9:10:02 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: austerity101: UNIONIZE EVERYTHING

(except the pigs)

10 minutes later:
I can't afford a plumber to fix my toilet because of union rates! The government should pay for my toilet to get fixed.


I predicted that the BSABSVR morons would show up, and there they are.  You could have just posted "I don't understand how businesses set a cost for their goods or services.  I just wanted to take a shiat on this thread."  That would have saved everybody some time, including you.
 
2020-11-27 9:13:07 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: monsatano: sinner4ever: The same guy that wrote a bankruptcy bill saying low wage Americans are abusing predatory banks is worried about labor?
I'm gonna have to see it to believe it.

Joe Biden could talk your wife into giving you a blowjob and write you a check for a million dollars and you'd still get on Fark to biatch about how it's his fault that she only worked the tip.


His wife already blows him and what good is a check from someone with whom you share a bank account?

Your post is accidentally a perfect metaphor for centrist policy: be thankful we gave you something you already have.



It's only occurred to me now that you meant Joe was giving you the check and not the wife so now my snarky remark doesn't make sense.

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2020-11-27 9:13:26 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: monsatano: sinner4ever: The same guy that wrote a bankruptcy bill saying low wage Americans are abusing predatory banks is worried about labor?
I'm gonna have to see it to believe it.

Joe Biden could talk your wife into giving you a blowjob and write you a check for a million dollars and you'd still get on Fark to biatch about how it's his fault that she only worked the tip.


His wife already blows him and what good is a check from someone with whom you share a bank account?

Your post is accidentally a perfect metaphor for centrist policy: be thankful we gave you something you already have.


So he already has a million dollars and you've watched him get a blowjob from his wife? Their OnlyFans following must be huge.
 
2020-11-27 9:13:36 PM  

phrawgh: B-b-b-but he was a UNITED STATES SENATOR for 40 years and VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED FUXKING STATES OF AMERICA and so people were willing to pay him some cheese for speaking and book deals and he now has a net worth of $9 million. SO HE'S A FILTHY CRIMINAL JUST LIKE TRUMP!!!11!!!!


See, that's the necessary level of sarcasm for the Internet in this age of Russian trolls.  The sad thing is that there is a non-zero number of people who believe that idiocy.
 
2020-11-27 9:13:36 PM  

Tarl3k: the money is in the banana stand: austerity101: UNIONIZE EVERYTHING

(except the pigs)

10 minutes later:
I can't afford a plumber to fix my toilet because of union rates! The government should pay for my toilet to get fixed.

I predicted that the BSABSVR morons would show up, and there they are.  You could have just posted "I don't understand how businesses set a cost for their goods or services.  I just wanted to take a shiat on this thread."  That would have saved everybody some time, including you.


You could have said " I love slavery and capitalism" and saved as much time.
Just say the Chinese aren't real people and deserve it so even you can see who you are.
 
2020-11-27 9:17:41 PM  

NathanAllen: I honestly don't understand what is wrong in that part of America, despite the fact I grew up in that part of America. It's real farked is all I can gather from my extended family, who stayed.


Having come from a super small town in MT, I can tell you what's wrong with them...willful ignorance and fear.  They're too scared to leave their little corner and learn what's out there, so all these newfangled ideas are scary to them.  This leads to them putting up walls, creating more ignorance in a feedback loop.  Small towns are in a lot of trouble, unless they're willing to modernize...and I don't see that happening.
 
2020-11-27 9:18:24 PM  

sinner4ever: Tarl3k: I look forward to the usual BSABSVR shills screaming about how Biden is just a corporate shill who'll never follow through...even though Biden has been blue collar since day one.

In 50 years what has he done besides imprison Americans for decades with his crime bill, hurt low wage Americans abused by predatory banks and helped Obama break promises he made in the 2008 campaign as he is toasting China for the jobs they took from Americans with slave labor?


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2020-11-27 9:31:04 PM  

starsrift: In the US, the only thing more remarkable than the effort to disdain public health care is the de-legitimization of unions. It really is honestly and truly amazing how corporations, buying politicians, have ensured that blue collar workers will vote against their best interests again and again, year after year, decade after decade.


Don't let that immigrant take your cookie.
 
2020-11-27 9:33:04 PM  

phrawgh: These always come to mind...


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2020-11-27 9:34:43 PM  

I want that sauce Morty!: starsrift: In the US, the only thing more remarkable than the effort to disdain public health care is the de-legitimization of unions. It really is honestly and truly amazing how corporations, buying politicians, have ensured that blue collar workers will vote against their best interests again and again, year after year, decade after decade.

Don't let that immigrant take your cookie.


Might as well offer a visual aid,

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2020-11-27 9:40:00 PM  
I'm all for unions.  Just don't make me join one to work in your field.
 
2020-11-27 9:42:43 PM  

Weatherkiss: How does he plan on paying for those labor-friendly policies? He needs to worry about the National Debt. Thankfully we have Senate Majority McConnell to remind him that we can't afford... *checks notes*... to do anything Biden wants for the next 4 years.


Yeah thought the same - these initiatives will make a nice dust-gathering pile on turtle's desk.
 
2020-11-27 9:43:43 PM  
Soap box time

Capitalism should extend to the workers too. A business wants to get maximum returns from its expenditures. Workers should have that attitude too. They should try for maximum rewards for their time. That is not anti-capitalism. In Europe the workers are guaranteed a place on the board of directors. And it works. Business friendly does not and should not mean virtual slavery for workers. Profits are not the sole measure of success.

/Rant over
 
2020-11-27 9:44:58 PM  

phrawgh: sinner4ever: Tarl3k: I look forward to the usual BSABSVR shills screaming about how Biden is just a corporate shill who'll never follow through...even though Biden has been blue collar since day one.

In 50 years what has he done besides imprison Americans for decades with his crime bill, hurt low wage Americans abused by predatory banks and helped Obama break promises he made in the 2008 campaign as he is toasting China for the jobs they took from Americans with slave labor?

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Healthy competition = Chinese Muslim slaves equaling lower wages for American workers.
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2020-11-27 9:45:27 PM  
If you want to unionize fine, but don't make me or anyone else join your union to work and hell no to public servant unions.
 
2020-11-27 9:47:59 PM  

xaldin: So I have mixed feelings about unions. I like the idea of evening the negotiation power between employer and employed a great deal. The problem is unions as organizations get subverted into other things. Police unions come to mind particularly but pretty much all of them have had issues with organized crime, protecting the lowest denominator employee and making it hard for rising stars to actually rise (becomes a time in service game, not fact you're greatest talent in the building).  It leaves me conflicted in that I really want the benefits they bring but some of the detriments are just dangerous.

Sure lets unionize all the things... after we adjust a bit just what a union means and is in America.


I know how you feel.  In my time, I have worked for 2 of the largest unions, the NEA and the CWA.  Both were absolute garbage to me.And I stress that because, for years, i labored under the idea that all unions were bad because  teachers salaries were garbage and, once someone got tenure, it was practically impossible to fire a bad teacher (not criminally bad but burned out, useless, abusing the system, etc.).  When I worked for the phone company, I was in sales and people got the bright idea to unionize.  The higher-ups made our lives MISERABLE and gutted the commission system in retaliation.  The union was useless--we had to pay like $50/mo for nothing.  Again, that was my own experience.  I've since come around 180 degrees and am now even a very pleased union member.

I now work with 90% union folks from thousands of unions, reviewing members' benefits.  I can see what unions USED to be when i come across retirees with full health coverage, life insurance, and a decent pension.  I see current union people who get paid well for the work they do.  Talk to an iron worker one day and ask him how many people he knows died on the job last week.  They're falling off buildings, bridges, boats--it's horrible.  But they have life insurance and income protection so their families are taken care of.  And the ones who survive have free medical. the UFCW takes care of grocery workers (although the NJ office is worthless, PA's is great).  Some kid isn't getting hours because the manager's son wants a job?  Union is right on their ass.

As long as companies keep treating their employees like crap, there needs to be a level of protection between workers and management.  And HR ain't it--they're there to protect the company, not you.
 
2020-11-27 9:48:42 PM  
Unfettered free trade is not labour friendly.
 
2020-11-27 9:49:26 PM  

Abox: I'm all for unions.  Just don't make me join one to work in your field.

sprgrss: If you want to unionize fine, but don't make me or anyone else join your union to work and hell no to public servant unions.


So you want the better wages and the better working conditions. But you do not want to pay the price for them. You sound like the ones that do not want to pay one dollar in taxes. Ever. Make someone else pay.
Fark you.
 
2020-11-27 9:50:24 PM  

sprgrss: If you want to unionize fine, but don't make me or anyone else join your union to work and hell no to public servant unions.


No one believes any jerk saying " don't put me in no union" is anything other than a business owner or investor.
Search indeed.com for 18447 and see what the average wage is. You aren't fooling anyone. You want the poor to suffer for your profits. Get lost.
 
2020-11-27 9:51:04 PM  

sinner4ever: phrawgh: sinner4ever: Tarl3k: I look forward to the usual BSABSVR shills screaming about how Biden is just a corporate shill who'll never follow through...even though Biden has been blue collar since day one.

In 50 years what has he done besides imprison Americans for decades with his crime bill, hurt low wage Americans abused by predatory banks and helped Obama break promises he made in the 2008 campaign as he is toasting China for the jobs they took from Americans with slave labor?

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Healthy competition = Chinese Muslim slaves equaling lower wages for American workers.
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How many

sinner4ever: phrawgh: sinner4ever: Tarl3k: I look forward to the usual BSABSVR shills screaming about how Biden is just a corporate shill who'll never follow through...even though Biden has been blue collar since day one.

In 50 years what has he done besides imprison Americans for decades with his crime bill, hurt low wage Americans abused by predatory banks and helped Obama break promises he made in the 2008 campaign as he is toasting China for the jobs they took from Americans with slave labor?

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Healthy competition = Chinese Muslim slaves equaling lower wages for American workers.
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Biden sent not one job. Here's where your ire belongs.

The report includes three case studies focused on factories producing goods for Nike, Adidas/Fila, and Apple. A total of 83 companies have been identified as benefiting from these practices:
Abercrombie & Fitch, Acer, Adidas, Alstom, Amazon, Apple, ASUS, BAIC Motor, BMW, Bombardier, Bosch, BYD, Calvin Klein, Candy, Carter's, Cerruti 1881, Changan Automobile, Cisco, CRRC, Dell, Electrolux, Fila, Founder Group, GAC Group (automobiles), Gap, Geely Auto, General Electric, General Motors, Google, H&M, Haier, Hart Schaffner Marx, Hisense, Hitachi, HP, HTC, Huawei, iFlyTek, Jack & Jones, Jaguar, Japan Display Inc., L.L.Bean, Lacoste, Land Rover, Lenovo, LG, Li-Ning, Mayor, Meizu, Mercedes-Benz, MG, Microsoft, Mitsubishi, Mitsumi, Nike, Nintendo, Nokia, The North Face, Oculus, Oppo, Panasonic, Polo Ralph Lauren, Puma, Roewe, SAIC Motor, Samsung, SGMW, Sharp, Siemens, Skechers, Sony, TDK, Tommy Hilfiger, Toshiba, Tsinghua Tongfang, Uniqlo, Victoria's Secret, Vivo, Volkswagen, Xiaomi, Zara, Zegna, and ZTE.
 
2020-11-27 9:54:01 PM  
About time.
 
2020-11-27 9:54:44 PM  

phrawgh: sinner4ever: phrawgh: sinner4ever: Tarl3k: I look forward to the usual BSABSVR shills screaming about how Biden is just a corporate shill who'll never follow through...even though Biden has been blue collar since day one.

In 50 years what has he done besides imprison Americans for decades with his crime bill, hurt low wage Americans abused by predatory banks and helped Obama break promises he made in the 2008 campaign as he is toasting China for the jobs they took from Americans with slave labor?

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Healthy competition = Chinese Muslim slaves equaling lower wages for American workers.
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How many sinner4ever: phrawgh: sinner4ever: Tarl3k: I look forward to the usual BSABSVR shills screaming about how Biden is just a corporate shill who'll never follow through...even though Biden has been blue collar since day one.

In 50 years what has he done besides imprison Americans for decades with his crime bill, hurt low wage Americans abused by predatory banks and helped Obama break promises he made in the 2008 campaign as he is toasting China for the jobs they took from Americans with slave labor?

[preview.redd.it image 640x612]

Healthy competition = Chinese Muslim slaves equaling lower wages for American workers.
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/66-Ev5wp​dPg?start=1254]

Biden sent not one job. Here's where your ire belongs.

The report includes three case studies focused on factories producing goods for Nike, Adidas/Fila, and Apple. A total of 83 companies have been identified as benefiting from these practices:
Abercrombie & Fitch, Acer, Adidas, Alstom, Amazon, Apple, ASUS, BAIC Motor, BMW, Bombardier, Bosch, BYD, Calvin Klein, Candy, Carter's, Cerruti 1881, Changan Automobile, Cisco, CRRC, Dell, Electrolux, Fila, Founder Group, GAC Group (automobiles), Gap, Geely Auto, General Electric, General Motors, Google, H&M, Haier, Hart Schaffner Marx, Hisense, Hitach ...


Biden: China not economic threat to U.S.
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2020-11-27 9:58:57 PM  

monsatano: sinner4ever: The same guy that wrote a bankruptcy bill saying low wage Americans are abusing predatory banks is worried about labor?
I'm gonna have to see it to believe it.

Joe Biden could talk your wife into giving you a blowjob and write you a check for a million dollars and you'd still get on Fark to biatch about how it's his fault that she only worked the tip.


Democrats: *extend an olive branch to GOPers, retract a bloody stump for the N thousandth time*
All of Fark: "Why the hell do they do this? Everyone and their dog knows the GOPers don't work with anyone in good faith!"

Whenever Biden makes overtures to the liberal branch of the party, whatever they are, a certain small but extremely vocal minority (and we all know who they are) show up scimitars drawn, regardless of what Biden did.

Then these exact same handful of people have the gall to cry about how the nasty DNC Democrat Centrist Bastards never want to play ball with them.

And the rest of us are wondering, does being this dense come naturally or do you have to work at it?
 
2020-11-27 10:00:21 PM  

sinner4ever: phrawgh: sinner4ever: phrawgh: sinner4ever: Tarl3k: I look forward to the usual BSABSVR shills screaming about how Biden is just a corporate shill who'll never follow through...even though Biden has been blue collar since day one.

In 50 years what has he done besides imprison Americans for decades with his crime bill, hurt low wage Americans abused by predatory banks and helped Obama break promises he made in the 2008 campaign as he is toasting China for the jobs they took from Americans with slave labor?

[preview.redd.it image 640x612]

Healthy competition = Chinese Muslim slaves equaling lower wages for American workers.
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/66-Ev5wp​dPg?start=1254]

How many sinner4ever: phrawgh: sinner4ever: Tarl3k: I look forward to the usual BSABSVR shills screaming about how Biden is just a corporate shill who'll never follow through...even though Biden has been blue collar since day one.

In 50 years what has he done besides imprison Americans for decades with his crime bill, hurt low wage Americans abused by predatory banks and helped Obama break promises he made in the 2008 campaign as he is toasting China for the jobs they took from Americans with slave labor?

[preview.redd.it image 640x612]

Healthy competition = Chinese Muslim slaves equaling lower wages for American workers.
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/66-Ev5wp​dPg?start=1254]

Biden sent not one job. Here's where your ire belongs.

The report includes three case studies focused on factories producing goods for Nike, Adidas/Fila, and Apple. A total of 83 companies have been identified as benefiting from these practices:
Abercrombie & Fitch, Acer, Adidas, Alstom, Amazon, Apple, ASUS, BAIC Motor, BMW, Bombardier, Bosch, BYD, Calvin Klein, Candy, Carter's, Cerruti 1881, Changan Automobile, Cisco, CRRC, Dell, Electrolux, Fila, Founder Group, GAC Group (automobiles), Gap, Geely Auto, General Electric, General Motors, Google, H&M, Haier, Hart Schaffner Marx, Hisens ...


Biden was just acting like a good, mainstream republican of years gone by. And he's right. China is no threat, unless a bunch of our unscrupulous businesses practicing nearly unrestrained capitalism enable them.

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2020-11-27 10:00:51 PM  

FarkingChas: So you want the better wages and the better working conditions. But you do not want to pay the price for them. You sound like the ones that do not want to pay one dollar in taxes. Ever. Make someone else pay.
Fark you.


If you want to force workers into a union then the unions need to be significantly reformed.
 
2020-11-27 10:05:29 PM  

FarkingChas: Abox: I'm all for unions.  Just don't make me join one to work in your field.
sprgrss: If you want to unionize fine, but don't make me or anyone else join your union to work and hell no to public servant unions.

So you want the better wages and the better working conditions. But you do not want to pay the price for them. You sound like the ones that do not want to pay one dollar in taxes. Ever. Make someone else pay.
Fark you.


Not at all, I'll negotiate my own terms.  And I pay taxes.  Your judgement is poor, you should hitch your wagon to a union.
 
2020-11-27 10:18:20 PM  

sprgrss: FarkingChas: So you want the better wages and the better working conditions. But you do not want to pay the price for them. You sound like the ones that do not want to pay one dollar in taxes. Ever. Make someone else pay.
Fark you.

If you want to force workers into a union then the unions need to be significantly reformed.


That is largely the members responsibility. Except most don't bother. Just like most don't bother to vote in elections.
 
2020-11-27 10:23:29 PM  

FarkingChas: That is largely the members responsibility. Except most don't bother. Just like most don't bother to vote in elections.


Then the government shouldn't be forcing people to join a union in order to work.
 
2020-11-27 10:25:39 PM  
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2020-11-27 10:34:25 PM  

sprgrss: FarkingChas: That is largely the members responsibility. Except most don't bother. Just like most don't bother to vote in elections.

Then the government shouldn't be forcing people to join a union in order to work.


The government does not. The company does. Unless it is a government job. Some states have laws to allow people to be slimy scum-sucking POS leeches. But those are in place to hurt the unions and create the indentured servitude class.
 
2020-11-27 10:38:33 PM  
About farking time.
 
2020-11-27 10:40:14 PM  
Another comment. Rs are always screeching about the dangers of Communism and Socialism. Do they allow unions? Aren't unions like fighting against Communism?
:)
 
2020-11-27 10:40:28 PM  

FarkingChas: The government does not. The company does. Unless it is a government job. Some states have laws to allow people to be slimy scum-sucking POS leeches. But those are in place to hurt the unions and create the indentured servitude class.


The article discussed doing away with right to work.
 
2020-11-27 10:44:18 PM  

sprgrss: FarkingChas: The government does not. The company does. Unless it is a government job. Some states have laws to allow people to be slimy scum-sucking POS leeches. But those are in place to hurt the unions and create the indentured servitude class.

The article discussed doing away with right to work.


Good. the "right to work" is just newspeak for the right to be fired. For any reason at any time. Like one month before earning a retirement. Perfectly legal in those states.
 
2020-11-27 11:03:38 PM  

brigid_fitch: I know how you feel.  In my time, I have worked for 2 of the largest unions, the NEA and the CWA.


NEA here. Former iaew and iaff.

I've learned that management will never make a concession without either media or legal action.

Have a teacher on ECMO, maybe 25% chance of survival. Already have a dead sub. Admin and their friends are working from home or isolating in office. Teachers have 20-30 students breathing the same air.

They're trying to force us back to in person instruction monday.


*Militant labor feelings intensifying*
 
2020-11-27 11:27:09 PM  
If you treat your employees like serfs, you will receive sub-par performance across the board. No inspiration.

If you treat your employees well, you can deliver optimal results to your shareholders and customers.

Why is this even in question?
 
2020-11-28 12:37:23 AM  

the money is in the banana stand: austerity101: UNIONIZE EVERYTHING

(except the pigs)

10 minutes later:
I can't afford a plumber to fix my toilet because of union rates! The government should pay for my toilet to get fixed.


Ah... the plumber I use is union.  And I can afford his work, because I work at a union job.  It works out.
 
2020-11-28 12:43:02 AM  

sprgrss: FarkingChas: That is largely the members responsibility. Except most don't bother. Just like most don't bother to vote in elections.

Then the government shouldn't be forcing people to join a union in order to work.


Just like people shouldn't have to join a union to have the potential of a living wage and a better life.

If you are Johnny McSmallbusiness, you probably love to pay illegal immigrants to work for you. They'll take the least bit to work. Meanwhile you can take those "savings" you would have to pay a "normal American " which your kind champions so much to have a decent life, so you can spend $750 in fuel for your boat on the weekend.

"Well that guy that works 80/hrs a week for me should have just started his own business"

Meanwhile, you wouldn't have a farking canoe if it wasn't for that guy. So go suck a farking cack, asshole.
 
2020-11-28 12:54:30 AM  

Dr. DJ Duckhunt: I wonder if we can make Unions a religion to confuse the fark out of conservatives.


That would only work if they were Christian religions -- preferably Evangelical Protestant.
 
2020-11-28 1:13:10 AM  

floor: Do not worry, the business friendly SCOTUS will strike down these reasonable measure in the name of things that are not really in the constitution.

For example, money is speech and a religion so you cannot have unions because that may decrease the freedoms of billionaires.


Did you see the related story?  Trump's NLRB is trying to ban Scabby The Rat.
Chicago Tribune Story
They're looking for public comment! Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, they want that comment in the form of legal briefs, rather than ranting emails, but it's still a clear First Amendment right.
 
2020-11-28 1:24:33 AM  

casual disregard: If you treat your employees like serfs, you will receive sub-par performance across the board. No inspiration.

If you treat your employees well, you can deliver optimal results to your shareholders and customers.

Why is this even in question?


Because treating your employees well is a long game and profits need to be up this quarter. Also, most managers have low empathy and feel that employees should want to give 110% every day because that's what they were hired to do.

Unions came about for a reason.
 
2020-11-28 4:27:29 AM  

austerity101: UNIONIZE EVERYTHING

(except the pigs)


Defund and abolish them.  Unionize the social workers who replace them.
 
2020-11-28 4:39:23 AM  

sinner4ever: Tarl3k: I look forward to the usual BSABSVR shills screaming about how Biden is just a corporate shill who'll never follow through...even though Biden has been blue collar since day one.

In 50 years what has he done besides imprison Americans for decades with his crime bill, hurt low wage Americans abused by predatory banks and helped Obama break promises he made in the 2008 campaign as he is toasting China for the jobs they took from Americans with slave labor?


The next 4 years will cement his legacy as the most progressive President since FDR.
 
2020-11-28 7:16:04 AM  
I'm sure that fear of strong unions and labor protections are why stocks keep shooting up every time Biden makes progress toward winning the election (since it isn't over yet, much to everyone's horror).

I'm sure Mr. Wall St., A.K.A. "Mr. Let's Cut Social Security and Medicare Man" is going to do a whooooooole lot for the American worker.  You betcha.  Any day now.  Just keep waiting...

Not that this is an argument that continued GOP rule would be any better; obviously it wouldn't.  I'm just sick of being told I should be thankful for crumbs when the alternative is a savage beating.  I'm sure the African-American community has felt that way for generations.  What's going to happen when just about everyone else starts to feel that way, too?

From TFA:

- Joint Employer definitions?  The only reason this is mainstream-important is because we're all working as subcontractors to the subcontractor for the outsourced contractor for somebody explicitly so that nobody is left holding the bag when we're hurt or harassed or the like.  This is PRECISELY what Corporations were invented for in the Age of Sail.  So that no individual investor was left holding the bag to creditors when the ship sank or was taken by pirates.  This is just the human, legal version of that and nowhere do I see anyone talking about actually ENDING it.  We wouldn't need such definitions if it was illegal to nesting-doll your employees like this, explicitly to avoid liability.

- More people classified as Employees rather than Contractors?  Sounds like a start... but do you really think it's going to be more than a pittance?  Oh, yeah, these rare specialist jobs you've never heard of that have been Contract work for decades are now Employees, yay.  But strippers, rideshare drivers, delivery folks... yeah, funny how they're all still gonna be Contractors afterward. You watch.

- Making it easier to join Unions?  It's already completely legal and in everyone's best interest, so why does it need to be easier?  Oh, yeah, because the real obstacle is employer intimidation, at-will terminations and store closings.  Oh, but we're going to fine them a fraction of a second's profits!  I'm sure that will make them think twice...  They're only willing to forego the profit from entire markets to avoid unionization because it favors their bottom line in the end.  I'm sure the tiny fines will make them think twice.

- Rules for federal contractors?  It's the governnment.  Nobody who doesn't work for the government cares.  Federal employees have - with a few notable exceptions - been treated better than in the private sector, anyway.

- Outlaw Scabby the Rat?  Really?  That's what makes this list of "amazing labor reform"?  I'm not in favor (don't demonize non-union workers; demonize non-union employers), but talk about a non-issue.  How's that going to put a single dollar in any worker's pocket or add even one name or company to union rolls?  It's not, but it LOOKS good, doesn't it?

Get ready to be disappointed, America.
 
2020-11-28 8:52:13 AM  

FarkingChas: sprgrss: FarkingChas: So you want the better wages and the better working conditions. But you do not want to pay the price for them. You sound like the ones that do not want to pay one dollar in taxes. Ever. Make someone else pay.
Fark you.

If you want to force workers into a union then the unions need to be significantly reformed.

That is largely the members responsibility. Except most don't bother. Just like most don't bother to vote in elections.


This is precisely one of the problems with unions for me: instead of being able to simply negotiate my own contract with my employer, I have to participate in union meetings and be part of the union crowd to have a strong voice in the terms of my employment. It's another layer of bureaucracy and politics that I don't need.
 
2020-11-28 9:05:04 AM  
Oh yeah, I'm sure THIS TIME will be different and totally not like that time Obama abandoned employees rights 10 years ago
 
2020-11-28 12:44:26 PM  

billstewart: floor: Do not worry, the business friendly SCOTUS will strike down these reasonable measure in the name of things that are not really in the constitution.

For example, money is speech and a religion so you cannot have unions because that may decrease the freedoms of billionaires.

Did you see the related story?  Trump's NLRB is trying to ban Scabby The Rat.
Chicago Tribune Story
They're looking for public comment! Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, they want that comment in the form of legal briefs, rather than ranting emails, but it's still a clear First Amendment right.


Another example of what right thinking (far right) Americans need from their SCOTUS. My right to eat at a restaurant or but products with questionable safety practices is being infringed by an inflatable rat.

Disney is an exception.
 
2020-11-28 1:17:47 PM  

phrawgh: OMFG!!!11!!!! This is it! This is the End of our Freedumbs!! Time to boogaloo everyone!!!11!!!

Wow. Some of those policies will really help me and my lower middle class friends...

WHARGARBLL!!111!!! FUXK THAT SOZIALISMS SHEEROT!!11!! BURN IT ALL DOWN!!1!!! I DON'T WANT TO PAY TAXES AND BE BURDONED BY REGULATIONS WHEN I BECOME A BILLIONAIRE CEO!!!1!!!

*GOP Narrator: In a world where everyone who  works really hard becomes a billionaire CEO...


But what about the suffering at home stock owners getting less free capital gains money bec employees get more for their labor???

It sounds so scary!!
 
2020-11-28 1:24:46 PM  

Gloucester: As Hitler said (Mein Kampf, Vol. I) - unions are very important.  Those of us who have worked for example, in an office environment as part of a huge company, will know the way in which junior supervisors or managers can prove themselves unworthy of their surprisingly powerful positions, and attempt to use unsafe disciplinary remedies to advance or restrict the prospects of those under them.   The question is whether your union laws have undergone the changes that the UK found necessary in the 1980's to ensure that they are truly representative of the workforce.   In addition, there are certain positions which should not be allowed to unionise in the normal manner:  Armed forces, Police, and Casino staff.


The military and police are socialist as they are funded by taxes.
 
2020-11-28 1:25:56 PM  

starsrift: In the US, the only thing more remarkable than the effort to disdain public health care is the de-legitimization of unions. It really is honestly and truly amazing how corporations, buying politicians, have ensured that blue collar workers will vote against their best interests again and again, year after year, decade after decade.


That process began in the reagan 80s and continues to this day.
 
2020-11-28 1:28:01 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: austerity101: UNIONIZE EVERYTHING

(except the pigs)

10 minutes later:
I can't afford a plumber to fix my toilet because of union rates! The government should pay for my toilet to get fixed.


Plumbers already cost quite a bit unionized or not.

Stop transfering
 
2020-11-28 1:31:50 PM  

erik-k: starsrift: In the US, the only thing more remarkable than the effort to disdain public health care is the de-legitimization of unions. It really is honestly and truly amazing how corporations, buying politicians, have ensured that blue collar workers will vote against their best interests again and again, year after year, decade after decade.

The cultlike belief among America's exploited that they are actually temporarily embarrassed millionaires is the greatest gift crony capitalists could ever have asked for, and one they are delighted to fuel.


The poor dopes think they r the next lottery winners too.

Capital gains from stocks is taxed at 15% yet the labor that produces the profits that go to stocks is taxed at double that.

Labor means nothing in murca.

Labor creates wealth. Labor came before wealth and deserves the higher regard.  A. Lincoln
 
2020-11-28 1:33:20 PM  

MattytheMouse: erik-k: starsrift: In the US, the only thing more remarkable than the effort to disdain public health care is the de-legitimization of unions. It really is honestly and truly amazing how corporations, buying politicians, have ensured that blue collar workers will vote against their best interests again and again, year after year, decade after decade.

The cultlike belief among America's exploited that they are actually temporarily embarrassed millionaires is the greatest gift crony capitalists could ever have asked for, and one they are delighted to fuel.

I'll never forget an anecdote my friend's dad told me. A union rep tried to tell him "we're trying to protect you from the company," and he said "I am the company!"

Anyway, Union Pacific laid him off several years ago, despite record profits.


Dad found out who the company is and is not.

The lazy sit at home stock owner is the company now.
 
2020-11-28 1:35:44 PM  

lolmao500: You ever notice that in basically every single ''deal'' between the government and businesses, its always the CEO and the government. The workers are NEVER EVER represented. EVER.

Until that changes and the workers have as much power as CEOs, the workers will continue to get raped.


Yep

Only the product of Labor matters now.
Those who create the profits that go to sit at home stock owners can shut up and get back to work.
 
2020-11-28 1:37:23 PM  

Weatherkiss: How does he plan on paying for those labor-friendly policies? He needs to worry about the National Debt. Thankfully we have Senate Majority McConnell to remind him that we can't afford... *checks notes*... to do anything Biden wants for the next 4 years.


Ole turtlehead sticks his head out at more places than toilets.

Like capital hill for example.
 
2020-11-28 1:40:08 PM  

Snapper Carr: Remember when Obama's NLRB only had 2 members because the Senate kept blocking confirmation preventing them from getting anything done because they couldn't establish a quorum?

You can bet your ass Mitch remembers.


Mitch is a biatch

Nothing time wont fix.

How old is turtlehead anyway??
 
2020-11-28 1:42:43 PM  

Shakes999: MattytheMouse: erik-k: starsrift: In the US, the only thing more remarkable than the effort to disdain public health care is the de-legitimization of unions. It really is honestly and truly amazing how corporations, buying politicians, have ensured that blue collar workers will vote against their best interests again and again, year after year, decade after decade.

The cultlike belief among America's exploited that they are actually temporarily embarrassed millionaires is the greatest gift crony capitalists could ever have asked for, and one they are delighted to fuel.

I'll never forget an anecdote my friend's dad told me. A union rep tried to tell him "we're trying to protect you from the company," and he said "I am the company!"

Anyway, Union Pacific laid him off several years ago, despite record profits.

Worked for UP 2 years ago. Saw everything was about to massively go in the crapper(despite record profits year after year) and bailed . My 99% Republic coworkers called me dumb for leaving and crazy. A year after I left 90% of the entire shop was laid off and left out in the cold after decades of service.

I guess what im getting at is rail workers are some of the dumbest mf-ers on the planet and constantly voted against their own interests.


Yep

They got pile driven by murcan freedomman.
 
2020-11-28 1:44:32 PM  

austerity101: MattytheMouse: erik-k: starsrift: In the US, the only thing more remarkable than the effort to disdain public health care is the de-legitimization of unions. It really is honestly and truly amazing how corporations, buying politicians, have ensured that blue collar workers will vote against their best interests again and again, year after year, decade after decade.

The cultlike belief among America's exploited that they are actually temporarily embarrassed millionaires is the greatest gift crony capitalists could ever have asked for, and one they are delighted to fuel.

I'll never forget an anecdote my friend's dad told me. A union rep tried to tell him "we're trying to protect you from the company," and he said "I am the company!"

Anyway, Union Pacific laid him off several years ago, despite record profits.

This makes me feel the same way I do when people say "the government is the people!" without a hint of irony.


Is the rich people.

The sit at home stock owners eagerly waiting for the next quarter capital gains money to come in at 15% tax rate.
 
2020-11-28 1:45:00 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Ugh. Bernie would have made it so we don't have to work anymore.


Another gop lie
 
2020-11-28 1:48:37 PM  

Palined Parenthood: BERNIE LOST
GET OVER IT


That is true.

America lost too when it figures out 4 years from now nothing has changed.

Biden will lessen the bleeding but fundamental change is needed to stop it and dress the wound so it has a chance to heal.

The next gop president will rip open the wound again.

This has been the case since the reagan 80s.

How do i know??

I was there.  First time voted in 1980.
 
2020-11-28 1:50:31 PM  

sinner4ever: Palined Parenthood: BERNIE LOST
GET OVER IT

It isn't about Bernie. It never has been .
It is about policy Democrats profess to endorse yet abandon once the votes are counted.


Thank you.

The Democrats used to be the party of labor.

Until they got their hands into wall street and corporate boardroom cookie jars.

Then they werent.
 
2020-11-28 1:51:59 PM  

NathanAllen: It is high time Democrats remind the lower-middle and tradesfolk that they are their friends.

There are many economic opportunities in the modernization of our infrastructure that will be possible, if the Senate will cooperate.

Wouldn't a nationwide program of wind-farms to provide a part of the power we eat every day be a good thing?

That's a lot of linesmen jobs, a lot of shop jobs and a farking shiat-ton of electrical maintenance jobs.

Combine that with heavy investment of rural areas for cannabis cultivation and maybe some of the legitimate pinch rural America feels will relax enough for them to start articulating what they think will fix the "farking everything" that is broken there.

Because that's the problem. I honestly don't understand what is wrong in that part of America, despite the fact I grew up in that part of America. It's real farked is all I can gather from my extended family, who stayed.


The gop senate will not cooperate.

That has been the case since the reagan 80s.
 
2020-11-28 2:05:50 PM  

Weatherkiss: Palined Parenthood: BERNIE LOST
GET OVER IT

This never fails to make me lol.


Until 4 or 8 or 12 years from now and very little has changed.

Which is how big business and the 1% like it.
 
2020-11-28 2:06:52 PM  

Notabunny: Won't somebody please think of the billionaires?!!


Finally someone gets it!

Well done
 
2020-11-28 2:08:07 PM  

Ginnungagap42: austerity101: UNIONIZE EVERYTHING

(except the pigs)


There are 30 - 50 feral hogs out here. And they've unionized.


The hogs are on capital hill and wall street.

Not to mention corporate board rooms.
 
2020-11-28 2:09:31 PM  

Tarl3k: I look forward to the usual BSABSVR shills screaming about how Biden is just a corporate shill who'll never follow through...even though Biden has been blue collar since day one.


I think he has good intentions but the corporate owned senate will shut biden down just like they shut obama down.
 
2020-11-28 2:12:34 PM  

I want that sauce Morty!: starsrift: In the US, the only thing more remarkable than the effort to disdain public health care is the de-legitimization of unions. It really is honestly and truly amazing how corporations, buying politicians, have ensured that blue collar workers will vote against their best interests again and again, year after year, decade after decade.

Don't let that immigrant take your cookie.


Automation and AI is the biggest reason why jobs dissapear.
 
2020-11-28 2:16:12 PM  

Shaggy_C: Unfettered free trade is not labour friendly.


One of the tenents of free trade is a free labor force that can move at will.

Capital can move around but labor cant

Touche'
 
2020-11-28 2:16:58 PM  

FarkingChas: Abox: I'm all for unions.  Just don't make me join one to work in your field.
sprgrss: If you want to unionize fine, but don't make me or anyone else join your union to work and hell no to public servant unions.

So you want the better wages and the better working conditions. But you do not want to pay the price for them. You sound like the ones that do not want to pay one dollar in taxes. Ever. Make someone else pay.
Fark you.


Taxes r for the little people.
 
2020-11-28 2:19:18 PM  

FarkingChas: sprgrss: FarkingChas: The government does not. The company does. Unless it is a government job. Some states have laws to allow people to be slimy scum-sucking POS leeches. But those are in place to hurt the unions and create the indentured servitude class.

The article discussed doing away with right to work.

Good. the "right to work" is just newspeak for the right to be fired. For any reason at any time. Like one month before earning a retirement. Perfectly legal in those states.


George orwell thanks you.
 
2020-11-28 2:20:42 PM  

casual disregard: If you treat your employees like serfs, you will receive sub-par performance across the board. No inspiration.

If you treat your employees well, you can deliver optimal results to your shareholders and customers.

Why is this even in question?


Because capitalist used car salesmen are dumb self centered and greedy.
 
2020-11-28 2:23:51 PM  
For all the comments bashing the Dems for no progress:

That makes the Rs a better choice?
The Rs are totally blameless?
The Rs would have allowed the Dems to make progress if the Dems had wanted to?
We should just not vote for anyone?

There are many ways to block progress even when you don't have a majority. Our political system is not simplistic.

All this talk will be moot if even one of the GA senators is an R. But you all will STILL blame it 100% on the "moderate Dems".
 
2020-11-28 2:41:16 PM  

Linux_Yes: phrawgh: OMFG!!!11!!!! This is it! This is the End of our Freedumbs!! Time to boogaloo everyone!!!11!!!

Wow. Some of those policies will really help me and my lower middle class friends...

WHARGARBLL!!111!!! FUXK THAT SOZIALISMS SHEEROT!!11!! BURN IT ALL DOWN!!1!!! I DON'T WANT TO PAY TAXES AND BE BURDONED BY REGULATIONS WHEN I BECOME A BILLIONAIRE CEO!!!1!!!

*GOP Narrator: In a world where everyone who  works really hard becomes a billionaire CEO...

But what about the suffering at home stock owners getting less free capital gains money bec employees get more for their labor???

It sounds so scary!!


I know, right? I mean a good business that brought in a solid $1 billion net profit a day would be considered a failure. There must also be perpetual growth every quarter at all costs on top of that! Even if this requires knee capping the golden goose in the long run.
 
2020-11-28 4:06:39 PM  

Linux_Yes: The military and police are socialist as they are funded by taxes.


Why do people so cavalierly display their complete ignorance in such manners?
 
2020-11-28 4:27:43 PM  

sprgrss: Linux_Yes: The military and police are socialist as they are funded by taxes.

Why do people so cavalierly display their complete ignorance in such manners?


And yet here you are.
 
2020-11-28 7:51:23 PM  

Linux_Yes: NathanAllen: It is high time Democrats remind the lower-middle and tradesfolk that they are their friends.

There are many economic opportunities in the modernization of our infrastructure that will be possible, if the Senate will cooperate.

Wouldn't a nationwide program of wind-farms to provide a part of the power we eat every day be a good thing?

That's a lot of linesmen jobs, a lot of shop jobs and a farking shiat-ton of electrical maintenance jobs.

Combine that with heavy investment of rural areas for cannabis cultivation and maybe some of the legitimate pinch rural America feels will relax enough for them to start articulating what they think will fix the "farking everything" that is broken there.

Because that's the problem. I honestly don't understand what is wrong in that part of America, despite the fact I grew up in that part of America. It's real farked is all I can gather from my extended family, who stayed.

The gop senate will not cooperate.

That has been the case since the reagan 80s.


And the GOP senate would have magically cooperated with Bernie?
 
2020-11-29 6:39:24 AM  

Cokezeroinacan: Linux_Yes: NathanAllen: It is high time Democrats remind the lower-middle and tradesfolk that they are their friends.

There are many economic opportunities in the modernization of our infrastructure that will be possible, if the Senate will cooperate.

Wouldn't a nationwide program of wind-farms to provide a part of the power we eat every day be a good thing?

That's a lot of linesmen jobs, a lot of shop jobs and a farking shiat-ton of electrical maintenance jobs.

Combine that with heavy investment of rural areas for cannabis cultivation and maybe some of the legitimate pinch rural America feels will relax enough for them to start articulating what they think will fix the "farking everything" that is broken there.

Because that's the problem. I honestly don't understand what is wrong in that part of America, despite the fact I grew up in that part of America. It's real farked is all I can gather from my extended family, who stayed.

The gop senate will not cooperate.

That has been the case since the reagan 80s.

And the GOP senate would have magically cooperated with Bernie?


No

The difference is that bernie would be calling them out every day or week in public and on TV letting the american public know who the shiatters are and what theyre up to.  The Presidency is the perfect platform to do that.

Biden may do some of that but he owes too many favors. Hes in the beltway loop so hes not likely to rock too many apple carts.

Bernie lives to rock apple carts. Just watch on youtube the shiatters hes called out over the last 30 to 40 years.
 
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