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2020-11-27 2:19:41 PM  
I hate it that Nazis like the same thing I do.
 
2020-11-27 2:20:53 PM  
You couldn't get me high enough to want to go back there again
 
2020-11-27 2:46:16 PM  
The boys from Oklahoma roll their joints all wrong.  They're too damn skinny or way too long.
 
2020-11-27 3:09:55 PM  
...but not Okrahoma.
 
2020-11-27 3:47:27 PM  
FTFA: "strains of cannabis with names like Purple Punch, Cookies and Cream and Miracle Alien."

"Cookies and Cream and Miracle Alien" is a weird name.

/Oxford comma fan
 
2020-11-27 3:57:26 PM  
This is only confusing if you conflagrate modern political platforms and very old-fashioned "morality" about weed and prohibition in general.

That piece of the Venn diagram is shrinking quickly almost everywhere. It never really should have existed in the first place.
 
2020-11-27 4:15:14 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: You couldn't get me high enough to want to go back there again


I was stationed at Ft. Sill back in the mid/late '80s. I haven't set foot in Oklahoma since.

And FWIW, I could get reasonably decent weed delivered to the barracks and on-post housing back then if I had wanted to. Oklahoma has been a weed-friendly state for a long time. This is more "giving in to reality and seeing if we can make money in tax revenue" than a change of heart by state politicians
 
2020-11-27 4:46:45 PM  
But I heard that they don't smoke marijuana in Muskogee.
 
2020-11-27 6:24:17 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: But I heard that they don't smoke marijuana in Muskogee.


The Okies in Muskogee were probably too stoned to tell that person that they were too stoned to tell them otherwise.
 
2020-11-27 6:28:10 PM  
Sounds OK to me.
 
2020-11-27 6:29:42 PM  
Marijuana should be regulated like alcohol is regulated in this country.
 
2020-11-27 6:32:03 PM  
It's like pot is an ambassador of social change, man.
(......whoaaa)
 
2020-11-27 6:35:26 PM  

offacue: The boys from Oklahoma roll their joints all wrong.  They're too damn skinny or way too long.


I ain't a holy roller, so I just use a bong
Them boys from Oklahoma roll their joints all wrong
 
2020-11-27 6:35:28 PM  
If you include the people who support medical marijuana with those who support outright legalization, we are up to 90% support now.

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The vast majority of Americans supports outright legalization now.


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2020-11-27 6:35:44 PM  
Oklahoma has always been a weed capital, more often than not the past half-century marijuana has been Oklahoma #1 cash crop.

Will Rogers once opined that "Okies would vote dry (against alcohol) as long as they could stagger to the polls." But a fateful day in June 2018, many Okies lined up to vote for medical marijuana, a lot of them voting for the first time in a non-Presidential election. Voter turnout exceeded most quadrennial executive skirmishes, which have gone to the Republican since LBJ in 1964.

Fast forward to Summer 2019, and now you can't swing a cat by its tail without hitting a medical marijuana dispensary. Some strip malls have two rival companies sharing parking spaces. Billboards advertise 'doctors' (unknown if they're real or not) offering 'discount scripts' on a limited-time basis. And couriers are hard to hire because the weed-crowd already hired most of them to fill their supply channels.

End the hypocrisy. Just legalize it and sell in the liquor stores.
 
2020-11-27 6:36:50 PM  
I'd been wondering why my deeper Southern family members have been so mellow lately.
 
2020-11-27 6:38:44 PM  
Didn't read the article, but I'm gonna guess it's because weed has essentially been gentrified and the cops realized that they were arresting more and more white folks for the wacky backy?
 
2020-11-27 6:39:16 PM  

sprgrss: Marijuana should be regulated like alcohol is regulated in this country.


Last toke at 2 am
 
2020-11-27 6:41:05 PM  
They need it to rain pure MDMA every day for 10 years for OK to even begin to become a bastion of progressive values. Maybe decriminalize magic mushrooms and that could happen in 20 years instead?
 
2020-11-27 6:43:49 PM  
I don't see how all the dispensaries in my town say open!  I don't live in a very large town, and you can't drive very far without passing one.  Some corners have dispensaries on opposite corners from each other.  I don't see how they can all be making enough money to stay open.  There is only one that I drove by the other day that seems to be closed down.  Although, they may have just moved to a new location.  It would have been nice to jump in right at the start of the legal weed boom, but I can't see how doing so now would be profitable.  Too much competition.
 
2020-11-27 6:49:13 PM  
I feel a song coming on... let me get out my rhyming dictionary.
 
2020-11-27 6:49:50 PM  

Winterlight: MaudlinMutantMollusk: You couldn't get me high enough to want to go back there again

I was stationed at Ft. Sill back in the mid/late '80s. I haven't set foot in Oklahoma since.

And FWIW, I could get reasonably decent weed delivered to the barracks and on-post housing back then if I had wanted to. Oklahoma has been a weed-friendly state for a long time. This is more "giving in to reality and seeing if we can make money in tax revenue" than a change of heart by state politicians


This has nothing to do with the politicians.  The State has been under Republican control for many years, and those in power tried desperately to reverse this decision, which was approved by the voters.  Remember, this is the State with a serious brain trust that tried to sue the State of Colorado for having approved marijuana.  Oklahoma is chock full of people who scream all about 'STATES RIGHTS' but tried to force neighboring sovereign State into doing its will.  I've lived here for close to 30 years and cannot believe medical marijuana passed on the first go.
 
2020-11-27 6:51:57 PM  
i saw on reddit earlier about a dispensary that had a CRAZY black friday menu. like $10-15 gram carts, and $45/oz flower. heck, i grow my own but i don't think i'd be able to pass that up.

/missouri medical sucks--i've had my card for a year and a half and only recently have shops opened with only $60 eighths flower only-no concentrated or edibles.
//thank fsm for cultivation permits! my last 1/4 pound cost me ~$20.
///lights a joint of sativa for the third slashie.
 
2020-11-27 6:55:01 PM  

Chief Superintendent Lookout: Winterlight: MaudlinMutantMollusk: You couldn't get me high enough to want to go back there again

I was stationed at Ft. Sill back in the mid/late '80s. I haven't set foot in Oklahoma since.

And FWIW, I could get reasonably decent weed delivered to the barracks and on-post housing back then if I had wanted to. Oklahoma has been a weed-friendly state for a long time. This is more "giving in to reality and seeing if we can make money in tax revenue" than a change of heart by state politicians

This has nothing to do with the politicians.  The State has been under Republican control for many years, and those in power tried desperately to reverse this decision, which was approved by the voters.  Remember, this is the State with a serious brain trust that tried to sue the State of Colorado for having approved marijuana.  Oklahoma is chock full of people who scream all about 'STATES RIGHTS' but tried to force neighboring sovereign State into doing its will.  I've lived here for close to 30 years and cannot believe medical marijuana passed on the first go.



The program in the state was really amazing. Honestly it was across political lines in every way you could imagine. Had it been on the ballot in November or in 2016, it would have likely gotten close to 70% of the vote. OK is such a weird state. The state should really be much, much more liberal than it is, and in MANY instances the votes are much more on the liberal than conservative side... until you get to the major offices then it's the most hardcore red state in the nation depending on the year.
 
2020-11-27 6:58:07 PM  
Interesting read.
 
2020-11-27 6:58:34 PM  
You ever tried farming not high? Boring as shiat.
 
2020-11-27 6:58:45 PM  
FTFA:  "There's no set of qualifying conditions in order to obtain a medical card. If a patient can persuade a doctor that he needs to smoke weed in order to soothe a stubbed toe, that's just as legitimate as a dying cancer patient seeking to mitigate pain. The cards are so easy to obtain-$60 and a five-minute consultation-that many consider Oklahoma to have a de facto recreational use program."

So the whole concept of "medical marijuana" is bullsh*t?  Gee, who'd have guessed it?

sprgrss: Marijuana should be regulated like alcohol is regulated in this country.


As long as the market believes bootleg weed to be at least equal in quality to taxed weed--and I see no sign that this belief is going away--trying to regulate weed like booze won't work, because black marketers, who don't grow and distribute subject to regulations, and who don't pay taxes, will always be able to undercut legal producers and sellers.  It's happening in Oklahoma, too, despite what is asserted in TFA:

https://nicinvestors.com/2020/04/15/h​o​w-lax-regulations-have-allowed-oklahom​as-black-market-to-thrive/
 
2020-11-27 7:01:05 PM  
I guess Oklahoma is full of Libertarians and we know what type.

I wouldn't count on most of them being liberal or progressive on other issues.
 
2020-11-27 7:07:20 PM  

tirob: FTFA:  "There's no set of qualifying conditions in order to obtain a medical card. If a patient can persuade a doctor that he needs to smoke weed in order to soothe a stubbed toe, that's just as legitimate as a dying cancer patient seeking to mitigate pain. The cards are so easy to obtain-$60 and a five-minute consultation-that many consider Oklahoma to have a de facto recreational use program."

So the whole concept of "medical marijuana" is bullsh*t?  Gee, who'd have guessed it?

sprgrss: Marijuana should be regulated like alcohol is regulated in this country.

As long as the market believes bootleg weed to be at least equal in quality to taxed weed--and I see no sign that this belief is going away--trying to regulate weed like booze won't work, because black marketers, who don't grow and distribute subject to regulations, and who don't pay taxes, will always be able to undercut legal producers and sellers.  It's happening in Oklahoma, too, despite what is asserted in TFA:

https://nicinvestors.com/2020/04/15/ho​w-lax-regulations-have-allowed-oklahom​as-black-market-to-thrive/


Many of those Okies get their medical marijuana cardw for a perfectly legitimate reason; depression caused by having to live in OK.
 
2020-11-27 7:07:32 PM  
Yeah real spiffy, subby. Nothing like living in a state filled with people hooked on narcotics.
 
2020-11-27 7:10:06 PM  

BullBearMS: If you include the people who support medical marijuana with those who support outright legalization, we are up to 90% support now.

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The vast majority of Americans supports outright legalization now.


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So it looks like it's mostly old Republicans against it.
The group that's the cause of most bad things in America,
 
2020-11-27 7:21:02 PM  

stinkyboss: i saw on reddit earlier about a dispensary that had a CRAZY black friday menu. like $10-15 gram carts, and $45/oz flower. heck, i grow my own but i don't think i'd be able to pass that up.

/missouri medical sucks--i've had my card for a year and a half and only recently have shops opened with only $60 eighths flower only-no concentrated or edibles.
//thank fsm for cultivation permits! my last 1/4 pound cost me ~$20.
///lights a joint of sativa for the third slashie.


There was a place near where we just moved from that had those kinds of deals last year. Never a super desirable strain, things that just weren't moving were put on there, but still growing up ANY weed was good weed so I'll smoke it. Lol.

They also had a normal friday special. You could get an ounce of shake, which works great in our vape without having to grind, for $59. We got so familiar with the staff they would call us when our favorite strands were ready for the $59 shake deal. Dunno if they are still doing it now, it got kind of popular and was just a way to clear remnants.
 
2020-11-27 7:21:03 PM  

Walker: BullBearMS: If you include the people who support medical marijuana with those who support outright legalization, we are up to 90% support now.

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The vast majority of Americans supports outright legalization now.


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So it looks like it's mostly old Republicans against it.
The group that's the cause of most bad things in America,


The same ones that drive down to CVS ever to get their pain pills.  Insurance won't cover marijuana.
 
2020-11-27 7:21:40 PM  

tirob: FTFA:  "There's no set of qualifying conditions in order to obtain a medical card. If a patient can persuade a doctor that he needs to smoke weed in order to soothe a stubbed toe, that's just as legitimate as a dying cancer patient seeking to mitigate pain. The cards are so easy to obtain-$60 and a five-minute consultation-that many consider Oklahoma to have a de facto recreational use program."

So the whole concept of "medical marijuana" is bullsh*t?  Gee, who'd have guessed it?

sprgrss: Marijuana should be regulated like alcohol is regulated in this country.

As long as the market believes bootleg weed to be at least equal in quality to taxed weed--and I see no sign that this belief is going away--trying to regulate weed like booze won't work, because black marketers, who don't grow and distribute subject to regulations, and who don't pay taxes, will always be able to undercut legal producers and sellers.  It's happening in Oklahoma, too, despite what is asserted in TFA:

https://nicinvestors.com/2020/04/15/ho​w-lax-regulations-have-allowed-oklahom​as-black-market-to-thrive/


Dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
 
2020-11-27 7:25:13 PM  

fragMasterFlash: They need it to rain pure MDMA every day for 10 years for OK to even begin to become a bastion of progressive values. Maybe decriminalize magic mushrooms and that could happen in 20 years instead?


Machine Elves? In my city council!? It's more likely than you think.
 
2020-11-27 7:47:50 PM  

The Smails Kid: offacue: The boys from Oklahoma roll their joints all wrong.  They're too damn skinny or way too long.

I ain't a holy roller, so I just use a bong
Them boys from Oklahoma roll their joints all wrong


Boys from Oklahoma
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2020-11-27 7:51:42 PM  

MattytheMouse: Didn't read the article, but I'm gonna guess it's because weed has essentially been gentrified and the cops realized that they were arresting more and more white folks for the wacky backy?


Oh FFS.  I don't understand where this moronic notion that cops don't arrest white people for weed comes from.

They do, especially in Oklahoma.

/Yes, more black people get arrested.  But it does not hurt the cops' feelings to arrest whites.  At all.

This is Leland Dodd.

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He's served 30 years in Oklahoma prisons now.

He was sentenced to life without parole for trying to buy 50 pounds of pot.

He's not the only one, and as most Oklahomans are white or native, most pot lifers there are not black.
 
2020-11-27 7:57:21 PM  

fragMasterFlash: They need it to rain pure MDMA every day for 10 years for OK to even begin to become a bastion of progressive values. Maybe decriminalize magic mushrooms and that could happen in 20 years instead?


The collective teeth remaining in Oklahoma would be no more if you did that.
 
2020-11-27 7:58:14 PM  
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2020-11-27 7:59:02 PM  
it'll save them from being Broke-lahoma.
 
2020-11-27 8:11:38 PM  

Lambskincoat: I hate it that Nazis like the same thing I do.


They will always support stuff that goes against their own interests, if it hurts other people.
 
2020-11-27 8:12:00 PM  

knobmaker: MattytheMouse: Didn't read the article, but I'm gonna guess it's because weed has essentially been gentrified and the cops realized that they were arresting more and more white folks for the wacky backy?

Oh FFS.  I don't understand where this moronic notion that cops don't arrest white people for weed comes from.

They do, especially in Oklahoma.

/Yes, more black people get arrested.  But it does not hurt the cops' feelings to arrest whites.  At all.

This is Leland Dodd.

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He's served 30 years in Oklahoma prisons now.

He was sentenced to life without parole for trying to buy 50 pounds of pot.

He's not the only one, and as most Oklahomans are white or native, most pot lifers there are not black.


I didn't say they weren't arresting White people. I said they realized they were arresting too many white people!
 
2020-11-27 8:20:25 PM  

Lambskincoat: I hate it that Nazis like the same thing I do.


And vice-versa.
 
2020-11-27 8:21:40 PM  

tirob: FTFA:  "There's no set of qualifying conditions in order to obtain a medical card. If a patient can persuade a doctor that he needs to smoke weed in order to soothe a stubbed toe, that's just as legitimate as a dying cancer patient seeking to mitigate pain. The cards are so easy to obtain-$60 and a five-minute consultation-that many consider Oklahoma to have a de facto recreational use program."

So the whole concept of "medical marijuana" is bullsh*t?  Gee, who'd have guessed it?

sprgrss: Marijuana should be regulated like alcohol is regulated in this country.

As long as the market believes bootleg weed to be at least equal in quality to taxed weed--and I see no sign that this belief is going away--trying to regulate weed like booze won't work, because black marketers, who don't grow and distribute subject to regulations, and who don't pay taxes, will always be able to undercut legal producers and sellers.  It's happening in Oklahoma, too, despite what is asserted in TFA:

https://nicinvestors.com/2020/04/15/ho​w-lax-regulations-have-allowed-oklahom​as-black-market-to-thrive/


That's why it was made illegal and criminalized to such a degree for as long as it was.  Go ahead and try to make your own supply of booze and cigarettes for a year, its highly impractical.  But growing your own weed?  Not so hard.  And that takes the control of it out of the hands of Capital and that is a sin in America.  Yachts don't buy themselves. Don't get me wrong, I cannot stand tweakers but speed was pretty much legal until Uncle Festus published recipes and started a revolution that allowed anyone to produce it.  Suddenly it was a scourge upon the land, blah blah blah. Enjoy whatever Oklahoma has going on here for now, because this sort of free enterprise cannot be tolerated for long. When it gets legalized nationally that legalization will come wrapped in a deed handing all production and distribution over to Capital.
 
2020-11-27 8:22:05 PM  

sprgrss: Marijuana should be regulated like alcohol is regulated in this country.


No. Per Fark, toke up. Ain't no reliable testing. So do whatever, as high as you want.
 
2020-11-27 8:31:13 PM  

MattytheMouse: knobmaker: MattytheMouse: Didn't read the article, but I'm gonna guess it's because weed has essentially been gentrified and the cops realized that they were arresting more and more white folks for the wacky backy?

Oh FFS.  I don't understand where this moronic notion that cops don't arrest white people for weed comes from.

They do, especially in Oklahoma.

/Yes, more black people get arrested.  But it does not hurt the cops' feelings to arrest whites.  At all.

This is Leland Dodd.

[Fark user image image 443x555]
He's served 30 years in Oklahoma prisons now.

He was sentenced to life without parole for trying to buy 50 pounds of pot.

He's not the only one, and as most Oklahomans are white or native, most pot lifers there are not black.

I didn't say they weren't arresting White people. I said they realized they were arresting too many white people!


No, fark you.  You said "didn't read the article" and "cops realized".  You're wrong and deserve to be called for it.

Medi-Jane in Oklahoma became law *in spite* of the lawmakers and cops.  It was a citizen petition that got it on the ballot and it passed in spite of office-holder shenanigans.
 
2020-11-27 8:34:50 PM  

BullBearMS: If you include the people who support medical marijuana with those who support outright legalization, we are up to 90% support now.

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The vast majority of Americans supports outright legalization now.


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Eventually and, not any time soon, Democrats are going to have to ask themselves why Republican states keep voting for legal marijuana and more healthcare. But before doing that they will warn contemporaries and incumbents that "moving too far left" will abandon their voter base.
 
2020-11-27 8:42:41 PM  
The biggest scam in the last 30 years is this 'medical' use for weed.  Big Pharma already has a pill for that, if ya needed it that badly just get a script.

Smoking anything is not healthy.  Now edibles....maybe better but man smoke in the lungs?  pass.
 
2020-11-27 8:42:57 PM  
I live in a small suburb of OKC and we've had probably 12 dispensaries pop up in the last year. As a side benefit, half of them now have taco trucks in their parking lots, which I never thought I'd see in this town. I love me some street tacos.
 
2020-11-27 9:00:07 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: But I heard that they don't smoke marijuana in Muskogee.


Merle Haggard wrote that song about Muskogee ironically.  Seems most people (namely, everyone who has never been there) didn't get the joke.  There's a parallel universe where Snoop Dogg ended up as a mall rat at Arrowhead Mall, yet smokes just as much weed.
 
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