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2020-11-27 3:45:55 PM  
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2020-11-27 5:16:13 PM  
I'll book a table

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2020-11-27 6:12:22 PM  
Quintessence is the substance above the lunary spehere in Aristotle, you farking morons. There are the 4 elements below the lunary sphere, which combined are the siubstance of nature. Then the space above that sphere is called "supernatural" and that contains a fifth element too rare to sink below air: quintessence. One of Galilleo's important letters to a student incorporates his lecture about how his telescope proves there is no quintessence above the moon, based on observations of comets.

It's not news, indeed.
 
2020-11-27 6:30:35 PM  
Well good luck stopping time ...
 
2020-11-27 6:33:13 PM  
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2020-11-27 6:39:16 PM  
Ummmm quintessence? The space magic stuff from the Voltron reboot?
 
2020-11-27 6:44:17 PM  

MrLint: Ummmm quintessence? The space magic stuff from the Voltron reboot?


I think they mean the 5-headed spinny things from the Transformers movie
 
2020-11-27 6:58:36 PM  
Squeeze - In Quintessence (1981)
Youtube TPBWd4HMVUg


39 year old news is old;)
 
2020-11-27 7:06:50 PM  
The only problem is that dark energy only exists in the minds of scientists and hasn't been observed in nature.
The new research, published in the journal Physical Review Letters this week, suggests that quintessence might explain the process of cosmic expansion.

So you're trading one purely hypothetical idea that has never been observed or proven to exist for another purely hypothetical idea that has never been observed or proven to exist.
 
2020-11-27 8:14:01 PM  

Snapper Carr: The only problem is that dark energy only exists in the minds of scientists and hasn't been observed in nature.
The new research, published in the journal Physical Review Letters this week, suggests that quintessence might explain the process of cosmic expansion.

So you're trading one purely hypothetical idea that has never been observed or proven to exist for another purely hypothetical idea that has never been observed or proven to exist.


The article never actually says what they think this quintessence actually is. The closest we get is this: "It could potentially be responsible light that has been "twisted" on its way from the cosmic background radiation"
which is poorly written enough that I don't know what it means. What about the irresponsible light? Are they saying that the "twisting" of light makes it look like the universe is expanding when it's really not? Is there some form of matter or energy being discussed here?
 
2020-11-27 8:19:10 PM  
Aether.

It's back, baby!
 
2020-11-27 8:42:14 PM  

MrLint: Ummmm quintessence? The space magic stuff from the Voltron reboot?


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2020-11-27 8:45:14 PM  

hoyt clagwell: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/TPBWd4HM​VUg]

39 year old news is old;)


If you hadn't, I was going to.
 
2020-11-27 9:01:32 PM  
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2020-11-27 9:05:11 PM  
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2020-11-27 9:06:08 PM  
wrong thread

or maybe not
 
2020-11-27 9:23:23 PM  
So, we're gonna turn quantum mechanics into a Mage: The Ascension mechanic?

I mean, Prime IS important if you want to do some cool things with Forced or create Matter, but I was more a fan of Correspondence and Forces, so you only had to let your opponent do all the asskicking for you.
 
2020-11-27 9:26:52 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Aether.

It's back, baby!


It never went away.
 
2020-11-27 9:41:27 PM  
ah, the old 'new substance" of the gaps argument.
 
2020-11-27 10:35:54 PM  
No need to be all fancy and give it a "cool" new name, we all know it's just dephlogisticated ether.
 
2020-11-27 10:50:30 PM  
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2020-11-27 11:20:22 PM  

NotARocketScientist: Snapper Carr: The only problem is that dark energy only exists in the minds of scientists and hasn't been observed in nature.
The new research, published in the journal Physical Review Letters this week, suggests that quintessence might explain the process of cosmic expansion.

So you're trading one purely hypothetical idea that has never been observed or proven to exist for another purely hypothetical idea that has never been observed or proven to exist.

The article never actually says what they think this quintessence actually is. The closest we get is this: "It could potentially be responsible light that has been "twisted" on its way from the cosmic background radiation"
which is poorly written enough that I don't know what it means. What about the irresponsible light? Are they saying that the "twisting" of light makes it look like the universe is expanding when it's really not? Is there some form of matter or energy being discussed here?


You're reading the article from a 8th rate British rag.

Here's a more useful article from Nature. Apparently the theory is that Dark Energy comes from quintessence, which is a physical construct underpinning the universe. The Nature article doesn't sensationalize, so it quotes less reactionary physicists that other caution with the 2.5 signs result who don't speculate about Dark Matter or throw into question such would implications as the Daily Star.

To the above posters, this isn't the Quintessence debunked hundreds of years ago, but the is named after that.
 
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