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2020-11-27 2:32:33 PM  
So, do I have to get them all to make sure I'm covered, or what?

Also, which ones cause teh 'tisms? I'm not against it, I'd just like the knowledge beforehand.
 
2020-11-27 2:44:16 PM  
So, of course, the one that's the least effective (but probably the cheapest) is the one your insurance company will pay for.
 
2020-11-27 2:48:52 PM  
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2020-11-27 2:53:39 PM  
So how does this work? You go to the pharmacy and say "I'd like the COVID vaccine" and all the sudden it turns into the Spam sketch from Monty Python with the person behind the county naming 10 different COVID vaccines?
 
2020-11-27 3:50:13 PM  
THERE IS NO VACCINE!
 
2020-11-27 3:52:10 PM  
All these competing vaccines should drive the price down, unless the CDC only approves one in which case expect to sell off your first born to afford it
 
2020-11-27 4:13:34 PM  
 
2020-11-27 5:24:20 PM  

Walker: So how does this work? You go to the pharmacy and say "I'd like the COVID vaccine" and all the sudden it turns into the Spam sketch from Monty Python with the person behind the county naming 10 different COVID vaccines?


Oops
*counter
 
2020-11-27 5:31:09 PM  

whither_apophis: All these competing vaccines should drive the price down, unless the CDC only approves one in which case expect to sell off your first born to afford it


I'm guessing that some will have advantages other others. Some might provide cross immunity to mutated COVIDS, some might not make you as sick, some might last longer, some might work better.
 
2020-11-27 5:39:43 PM  

KarmicDisaster: whither_apophis: All these competing vaccines should drive the price down, unless the CDC only approves one in which case expect to sell off your first born to afford it

I'm guessing that some will have advantages other others. Some might provide cross immunity to mutated COVIDS, some might not make you as sick, some might last longer, some might work better.


I will get whichever one you get a free toaster with
 
2020-11-27 5:41:33 PM  

KarmicDisaster: whither_apophis: All these competing vaccines should drive the price down, unless the CDC only approves one in which case expect to sell off your first born to afford it

I'm guessing that some will have advantages other others. Some might provide cross immunity to mutated COVIDS, some might not make you as sick, some might last longer, some might work better.


Government has already promised they'll all be free (not that I exactly trust the Trump Administration, but Biden will take over quite early into the distrubution), so the price can't be driven down from zero.  Also insurance has a VERY large incentive to cover it, even if it isn't... because the risk that you get severe covid and end up in the hospital for a month... the amount that costs is the cost of probably 10,000 vaccines.  For one person.

As far as the competing nature, yeah.

We may discover some are better for compromised immune systems, some may have less side effects, some are easier to distribute to poorer nations (or rural areas), some may last longer, etc.  I feel like it'll be like cancer treatments.  Based on a bunch of different criteria, doctors will be able to choose the right one for you.  And like all competition, some will just be not as good (if 10 have 90% and 2 have 60%, those 2 will quickly get pushed out)

But for the first round?  We just need to get it to as many people as realistically and responsibly as possible.   We can worry about more tailored experiences for the future.
 
2020-11-27 5:46:29 PM  
It has been suggested to pay people to take it.
 
2020-11-27 5:49:58 PM  
Do any of these vaccines have side effects includes that weight loss and hair regeneration? I'm asking for a friend.
 
2020-11-27 5:53:57 PM  
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2020-11-27 5:54:34 PM  
"But first their inventors need patent protection."

Because there's nothing like profiting on the cure to a deadly disease.
 
2020-11-27 5:55:14 PM  
Be sure to think of this little tune while you're getting your jab.

Shaun Of The Dead Soundtrack
Youtube nhO7ebCbcsI
 
2020-11-27 5:56:06 PM  
As a vaccine enthusiast should I take each vaccine twice?
 
2020-11-27 5:59:08 PM  
Ten COVID-19 vaccines could be available by the middle of next year if they win regulatory approval, but their inventors need patent protection

Patent protection??? Really?? In a global pandemic? Take your patents and shove them up your asses.
 
2020-11-27 6:00:11 PM  
I'm just going to take the one that's advertised as being the best during the Superb Owl.

/ you mean they don't all work the same?
// you mean forming an opinion based on ads during an overhyped TV show is wrong?
/// did I maybe, just maybe, vote for the wrong presidential candidate?
 
2020-11-27 6:03:34 PM  

lolmao500: Ten COVID-19 vaccines could be available by the middle of next year if they win regulatory approval, but their inventors need patent protection

Patent protection??? Really?? In a global pandemic? Take your patents and shove them up your asses.


I think they are injections, not suppositories.
 
2020-11-27 6:09:39 PM  

ar393: lolmao500: Ten COVID-19 vaccines could be available by the middle of next year if they win regulatory approval, but their inventors need patent protection

Patent protection??? Really?? In a global pandemic? Take your patents and shove them up your asses.

I think they are injections, not suppositories.


Good news! It's a suppository!
 
2020-11-27 6:11:38 PM  

Lord Dimwit: Good news! It's a suppository!


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2020-11-27 6:14:49 PM  
It's a shame, as others have pointed out already, that these companies won't compare notes with each other and forget about the whole patent/competition thing. But hang in there; it's just a matter of time before the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines get the FDA nod and they'll start to be mass-distributed to all 50 states. The destinations that have the technology to keep the Pfizer vaccine mega-frozen will get it; those that don't can get the Moderna vaccine, which only requires a normal level of refrigeration.

My understanding is that they will indeed be free. I sincerely hope that both Trump and Biden will be willing to work together to transition this effort and not run into any political problems that will delay the process. I also sincerely hope that we can all somehow change the minds of those that do not want it, so that we get as many friggin' people as possible to get vaccinated.

Smooth bipartisan transition of this effort, and a reversal of apprehension...do I dare hope for these things, or is it just a pipe dream?
 
2020-11-27 6:16:50 PM  

psilocyberguy: THERE IS NO VACCINE!


AND NO LIEUTENANT YAR!

/No treaty either
 
2020-11-27 6:24:05 PM  
In 10 years there will only be 1 company selling the vaccine in the US. Since they have no domestic competition and no regulations on drug pricing they will charge $1000 for the vaccine and insurance won't cover it because reasons.

That is my faith in the US health system.
 
2020-11-27 6:25:20 PM  

MattyBlast: It's a shame, as others have pointed out already, that these companies won't compare notes with each other and forget about the whole patent/competition thing. But hang in there; it's just a matter of time before the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines get the FDA nod and they'll start to be mass-distributed to all 50 states. The destinations that have the technology to keep the Pfizer vaccine mega-frozen will get it; those that don't can get the Moderna vaccine, which only requires a normal level of refrigeration.

My understanding is that they will indeed be free. I sincerely hope that both Trump and Biden will be willing to work together to transition this effort and not run into any political problems that will delay the process. I also sincerely hope that we can all somehow change the minds of those that do not want it, so that we get as many friggin' people as possible to get vaccinated.

Smooth bipartisan transition of this effort, and a reversal of apprehension...do I dare hope for these things, or is it just a pipe dream?


Pipe dream. I live in the heart of dixie and it's ridiculous how many people I know who won't even take the flu shot.
 
2020-11-27 6:27:13 PM  
Can't wait for all the TV ads

/kidding, I don't watch ads
 
2020-11-27 6:41:51 PM  
How are they going to get volunteers to sign up for and continue on in their trials, risking getting placebos when proven vaccines are already rolling out?
 
2020-11-27 6:45:59 PM  

jjorsett: How are they going to get volunteers to sign up for and continue on in their trials, risking getting placebos when proven vaccines are already rolling out?


Is anyone starting a trial now?
 
2020-11-27 6:53:25 PM  

Wily Wombat: "But first their inventors need patent protection."

Because there's nothing like profiting on the cure to a deadly disease.


Surprisingly, the companies that are working balls out to save us have employees with mortgages and tuition for their kids to pay for, too.
I know that gets you communist feathers all ruffled.
 
2020-11-27 6:54:59 PM  

Wesdog: In 10 years there will only be 1 company selling the vaccine in the US. Since they have no domestic competition and no regulations on drug pricing they will charge $1000 for the vaccine and insurance won't cover it because reasons.

That is my faith in the US health system.


Fine. Opt out.
 
2020-11-27 6:58:04 PM  

studebaker hoch: jjorsett: How are they going to get volunteers to sign up for and continue on in their trials, risking getting placebos when proven vaccines are already rolling out?

Is anyone starting a trial now?


Number of Covid vaccines in clinical trials: 53.
Phase 1: 38
Phase 2: 17
Phase 3: 13

Source

The majority of candidates haven't gone to stage 3 yet, which requires thousands of test subjects. Also, how many people who are in mid-trail will be willing to pass up inoculation with a known-good vaccine, knowing that they have a 50-50 chance of being vulnerable, having received a placebo? If too many bail, that'll completely screw up the testing.
 
2020-11-27 7:00:27 PM  
I read that as ten vacancies.
 
2020-11-27 7:07:35 PM  
I'm going to get all 10.  Can I get them in shot glasses, lined up on the counter?

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2020-11-27 7:19:58 PM  
Thank you President Donald J. Trump, for Operation Warp Speed and for potentially saving millions of lives!
 
2020-11-27 7:22:46 PM  
I plan to take every one

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2020-11-27 7:28:19 PM  
Will I get a $5 coupon from CVS for each one I get?
 
2020-11-27 7:45:24 PM  

TorpedoOrca: KarmicDisaster: whither_apophis: All these competing vaccines should drive the price down, unless the CDC only approves one in which case expect to sell off your first born to afford it

I'm guessing that some will have advantages other others. Some might provide cross immunity to mutated COVIDS, some might not make you as sick, some might last longer, some might work better.

I will get whichever one you get a free toaster with


I'm holding out for the rifle.
 
2020-11-27 7:48:07 PM  

Wesdog: In 10 years there will only be 1 company selling the vaccine in the US. Since they have no domestic competition and no regulations on drug pricing they will charge $1000 for the vaccine and insurance won't cover it because reasons.

That is my faith in the US health system.


When does Pharma Bro get out?
 
2020-11-27 8:06:05 PM  

psilocyberguy: THERE IS NO VACCINE!


Maybe there's some in this truck!
/I'm cured
//ow
 
2020-11-27 8:18:40 PM  
Oo! Oo! I want the one that makes you violently ill anyway!
 
2020-11-27 8:22:53 PM  
Fark hates this. Good news is bad news.
 
2020-11-27 8:24:37 PM  

fragMasterFlash: As a vaccine enthusiast should I take each vaccine twice?


You probably shouldn't take one, it's better for everyone.
 
2020-11-27 8:26:35 PM  

psilocyberguy: THERE IS NO VACCINE!


We are not talking about your mother's cooch. We are talking about the virus.
 
2020-11-27 8:27:46 PM  

whither_apophis: All these competing vaccines should drive the price down, unless the CDC only approves one in which case expect to sell off your first born to afford it


JFC. The vaccines recommend by the CDC will be those that "contribute" the most to the CDC.
 
2020-11-27 8:33:01 PM  
Just think, if everybody wore a mask and we had a differebt President probably 160,000 lives would have been saved already.
 
2020-11-27 8:34:21 PM  

bfh0417: psilocyberguy: THERE IS NO VACCINE!

We are not talking about your mother's cooch. We are talking about the virus.


I'm here to tell you his mom has a cooch.

I wouldn't recommend it again though.
 
2020-11-27 8:43:36 PM  

bfh0417: fragMasterFlash: As a vaccine enthusiast should I take each vaccine twice?

You probably shouldn't take one, it's better for everyone.


Fine. I'll make my own vaccine with hookers and blackjack.

/harrumph
 
2020-11-27 8:53:32 PM  

Walker: Walker: So how does this work? You go to the pharmacy and say "I'd like the COVID vaccine" and all the sudden it turns into the Spam sketch from Monty Python with the person behind the county naming 10 different COVID vaccines?

Oops
*counter


As long as there're Vikings I'm cool with it.
 
2020-11-27 8:55:33 PM  
Are these all single antigen vaccines?  How much does a virus have to mutate to avoid surveillance with one of these single antigen vaccines.  I noticed the Chinese testing 11,000,000 people over a single point mutation.

Pfizer's representative said that their vaccine made it possible for T-cells to see the virus inside the cells.  That's good.  It's a reference to cytotoxic T-cells.  It describes an absolutely necessary benefit to immune surveillance.  If Moderna made similar claims, I missed it.  Don't expect any sort of lasting protection from a vaccine that doesn't counter SARS-CoV-2's inhibition of MHC-I.
 
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