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2020-11-27 10:12:49 AM  
And their kids too!
 
2020-11-27 10:25:47 AM  
So do paywalls
 
2020-11-27 10:26:18 AM  
Yeah, like they weren't already that way when they were physically in school.
 
2020-11-27 10:40:03 AM  
As I learned in the spring, multiplication cannot be taught to 8 year olds. It is impossible.

Only teachers possess the god-like ability to do so.
 
2020-11-27 10:42:02 AM  
I think we used to call that puberty when I was growing up
 
2020-11-27 10:43:26 AM  
Better than killing people as a vector.

Maybe if Americans weren't so painfully selfish we could have worn masks and kept schools open instead of bars and restaurants.
 
2020-11-27 10:50:07 AM  
Basically, we're creating a generation of Republican voters.
 
2020-11-27 10:50:28 AM  
Yay. Yet another article in WaPo about how teachers are failing the nation's children because they are frustrated and can't learn online. 

At this point, I don't know what else to do. My district won't go virtual because cOvId IsNt ReAl or some shiat. Our cases are exploding exponentially, kids are constantly in and out (with no negative test requirement to return, just their completely honest parents' word that Johnny doesn't have the china virus. *wink wink* Now let him play football like God intended!), and we teachers are told to shut up and teach or get out. 

While all of this is happening, we do not have the flexibility to adjust curriculum because hey, we gotta test in the Spring to appease the testing apparatatus! Pearson needs their money and the state lege needs their perennial whipping boy to raise money for the next campaign while doing fark all to address the issues at hand.

I have to go get tested today because I have 9 kids out on quarantine, two with symptoms, and now I am developing shortness of breath, tightness in the chest, a cough, and a sore throat. I am so farking angry right now because my family is now at risk due to these motherfarkers' ignorance and hatred of science.

So, sorry that you're a bit frustrated that the computer isn't the same as being in the classroom, little Suzy. We're doing our farking best, ok?
 
2020-11-27 10:55:34 AM  
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2020-11-27 11:03:27 AM  
Between August and November, we went from 2 days, to 4 days, to 5 days...and right back to 2 days. You need to be flexible based on the local outcomes, but this is absolute chaos for teachers and parents.

The worst realization of all is that once you strip away PE, recess, and other downtime, the school day is only about 2 hours of real material. So it's not like you can stick your kids in front of a PC from 8-3 and ignore them.

Well, unless they're in middle or high school, in which case they have a hidden tab of Roblox or porn, respectively.
 
2020-11-27 11:54:20 AM  
About half of my son's virtual school class is like this.  As a 5th grader, he and several of his friends can pretty much manage themselves and they are doing very well. Granted, it is taking a little coaching about separately recording *any* assignments or notifications from the teacher but he gets it done.

They break for PE and recess as normal and adhere to the prescribed activities - for recess, he meets a friend from the social bubble and they run around, throw the football, etc.  Our teachers are doing a great job.  It *can* be frustrating at times as it appears that some parents are using virtual school to do less....and *that* can be a pain, for sure.

Of course they (son most friends) think the situation sucks but they are handling virtual school and doing a good job.
 
2020-11-27 1:22:07 PM  
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2020-11-27 1:26:21 PM  
So they are learning to be adults.
 
2020-11-27 1:26:39 PM  

gar1013: So do paywalls


PAY FOR JOURNALISM!
 
2020-11-27 1:29:13 PM  
No, it's the way of the future! We're all just hooked up to our computers, majorly learning things and majorly earning money and majorly helping the economic processing of the planet just as much as we can. This is what you wanted! Total freedom! Total economic opportunity!

Now you gotta ruin it all talking about "feelings." Um, we're past that. We put in kids in daycare, we only talk to others on our computers, we work until our spouse divorces us, we work at jobs that give us heart attacks, we treat people like shiat because they might interfere with our cash flow. We do things that we'd be ashamed to admit to, for money.
Everyone is complicit, everyone takes part in the alienation. That's why you got your kid an ipad as soon as his eyes could focus--so that he could PARTICIPATE in the economy! This is important!!

This is what everybody wanted.
 
2020-11-27 1:30:04 PM  
Lots of parents are failures as parents. They might be great people in general, but they suck as parents. You might not notice this so much when kids are in school because that means kids are being cared for by someone other than the parents. What happens when kids can't go to school? Then you see what their parents can/can't do and will/won't do. If you're a parent and you have to go to work, this doesn't apply to you. I'm talking about the parents who either didn't have jobs before the pandemic or their work shut down. What the fark are you doing all day that you can't keep your kids occupied mentally and physically?
 
2020-11-27 1:30:08 PM  
well they let people have a hs diploma in my generation (i'm in my 40's)  by lowering standards and have been lowering them ever since , not sure how you expect young parents that got passed while knowing next to no math or english to actually teach something that's remotely useful to their kids by themselves.
 
2020-11-27 1:31:17 PM  
Remote learning is leaving children emotionally frustrated and angry

Corona virus is leaving millions dead, and many many more disabled physically and mentally.
 
2020-11-27 1:31:47 PM  

Rev.K: As I learned in the spring, multiplication cannot be taught to 8 year olds. It is impossible.

Only teachers possess the god-like ability to do so.


What?
 
2020-11-27 1:32:19 PM  

strapp3r: gar1013: So do paywalls

PAY FOR JOURNALISM!


Lol. That's what their advertisers are for.

The WSJ is worth paying for. The Washington Post? Hope their "journalists" are good at coding.
 
2020-11-27 1:33:03 PM  
An entire generation home-schooled by day-drinkers.
 
2020-11-27 1:33:21 PM  

weddingsinger: Better than killing people as a vector.

Maybe if Americans weren't so painfully selfish we could have worn masks and kept schools open instead of bars and restaurants.


This nation has always had it's priorities in the wrong place starting with breaking treaties and ending with not being able to wear a mask to protect each other.
All kind of karmic and fitting.
 
2020-11-27 1:33:27 PM  
Seventeen responses and no one's used the term "snowflake" yet?

/seem to have wandered off of fark
 
2020-11-27 1:34:19 PM  

tudorgurl: Yay. Yet another article in WaPo about how teachers are failing the nation's children because they are frustrated and can't learn online. 

At this point, I don't know what else to do. My district won't go virtual because cOvId IsNt ReAl or some shiat. Our cases are exploding exponentially, kids are constantly in and out (with no negative test requirement to return, just their completely honest parents' word that Johnny doesn't have the china virus. *wink wink* Now let him play football like God intended!), and we teachers are told to shut up and teach or get out. 

While all of this is happening, we do not have the flexibility to adjust curriculum because hey, we gotta test in the Spring to appease the testing apparatatus! Pearson needs their money and the state lege needs their perennial whipping boy to raise money for the next campaign while doing fark all to address the issues at hand.

I have to go get tested today because I have 9 kids out on quarantine, two with symptoms, and now I am developing shortness of breath, tightness in the chest, a cough, and a sore throat. I am so farking angry right now because my family is now at risk due to these motherfarkers' ignorance and hatred of science.

So, sorry that you're a bit frustrated that the computer isn't the same as being in the classroom, little Suzy. We're doing our farking best, ok?


Well... Not if you're supporting districts that are endangering children, which by your own admission you are.

It's scary to be unemployed but at least you're not party to the murder of kids. Try organizing a strike or something else useful. And don't give me some bullshiat about how hard it is to not have income, I'm living that nightmare and I prefer it to endangering my students - but maybe that's just me.
 
2020-11-27 1:35:29 PM  
Frustrating as in not physically seeing friends.  I get that.  Kids also understand the risks of Covid.  Not just death.  I've been trying to explain 'lifers' to them.  They seem to get it.

But hey, the plusses of virtual school?
-pajama day is every day
-between classes when my son is done with homework, he goes to his room and is happily playing fortnite with other classmates.
-daughter went from a C/D average to not just straight A's, she's graduating a year early. Each college she applied for has been accepted.  Now they are more or less 'fighting' which ones can offer more scholarships / perks.
-Both are graduating a year early.
-Son gets more tech ed classes by the school paying for him to go to the regional tech school. If he plays his cards right and still likes it, he will have his welding cert before he is 18;possibly 6 months before he would have graduated high school if he stayed in brick and mortar.(yeah 'regional'.  yay for being in the boondocks.  Some classes within a half hour drive.  Most welding classes are an hour drive away.  Thankfully grandma and grandpa are nearby.  he is probably spending part of those weeks staying there)
-Son has more time to work (Mcdonalds)  Some weeks are definitely over 30 hours. And he's handling it just fine balancing work and school.
 
2020-11-27 1:36:01 PM  

tudorgurl: Yay. Yet another article in WaPo about how teachers are failing the nation's children because they are frustrated and can't learn online. 

At this point, I don't know what else to do. My district won't go virtual because cOvId IsNt ReAl or some shiat. Our cases are exploding exponentially, kids are constantly in and out (with no negative test requirement to return, just their completely honest parents' word that Johnny doesn't have the china virus. *wink wink* Now let him play football like God intended!), and we teachers are told to shut up and teach or get out. 

While all of this is happening, we do not have the flexibility to adjust curriculum because hey, we gotta test in the Spring to appease the testing apparatatus! Pearson needs their money and the state lege needs their perennial whipping boy to raise money for the next campaign while doing fark all to address the issues at hand.

I have to go get tested today because I have 9 kids out on quarantine, two with symptoms, and now I am developing shortness of breath, tightness in the chest, a cough, and a sore throat. I am so farking angry right now because my family is now at risk due to these motherfarkers' ignorance and hatred of science.

So, sorry that you're a bit frustrated that the computer isn't the same as being in the classroom, little Suzy. We're doing our farking best, ok?


Climb off your cross.
 
2020-11-27 1:36:59 PM  

NikolaiFarkoff: Between August and November, we went from 2 days, to 4 days, to 5 days...and right back to 2 days. You need to be flexible based on the local outcomes, but this is absolute chaos for teachers and parents.

The worst realization of all is that once you strip away PE, recess, and other downtime, the school day is only about 2 hours of real material. So it's not like you can stick your kids in front of a PC from 8-3 and ignore them.

Well, unless they're in middle or high school, in which case they have a hidden tab of Roblox or porn, respectively.


Unfortunately, it's the child care aspect of a full school day that is missed the most.
 
2020-11-27 1:38:18 PM  
Yep. And my kids are no longer being bullied for excelling in class....no "bad guy drills" as my daughters' school called it....no wasting time with pointless social events and fundraisers...
 
2020-11-27 1:38:30 PM  
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She looks okay to me.
 
2020-11-27 1:38:52 PM  

BitwiseShift: Remote learning is leaving children emotionally frustrated and angry

Corona virus is leaving millions dead, and many many more disabled physically and mentally.


Okay? You have a thing for lording your superior intellect and reasoning over simple schoolchildren?

My kids farking hate remote learning and miss going into school a lot. The park. Out for dinner. It sucks being home all the time. They're frustrated. Whether or not remote learning is justified has nothing to do with their frustration.
 
2020-11-27 1:39:44 PM  
I am glad I don't have kids, I can only imagine the frustration kids, parents and teachers are going through. Worst I ever have it is when I have to train new people at work, some of them make me wonder how they can sleep at night and still remember to breath. Some of them have frustrated me so much I have to contain my urge to choke them. So my hats off to you brave students and educators and hopefully we can get to the end of this nightmare soon.
 
2020-11-27 1:42:16 PM  
Three young adults in the house, all losing their minds, but being good to one another. Teenaging is hard, this makes it a shiatshow. But were saving lives and that's the point of it.
 
2020-11-27 1:42:43 PM  
This is in part because we're trying to maintain a traditional classroom online in the hopes we can return kids ASAP. Online learning is inherently different but we don't want to commit to changing how we do things. It involves an admission of defeat. It's COVID's world, we're just living in it.

We would rather blame teachers and teacher's unions, even in states without unions.

/It's amazing how many people in VA blame education problems on either unions, which are effectively absent, or Common Core, which VA never adopted.
 
2020-11-27 1:43:41 PM  
Got a message from the french teacher asking that we either tell our kids to appear on camera or at least paint something interesting on the ceiling as that is where the camera is pointed to most of the time.
 
2020-11-27 1:44:08 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Yeah, like they weren't already that way when they were physically in school.


Well you see, now the parents are forced to deal with it since they can't just send them out of the house for most of the day. That's the real problem.
 
2020-11-27 1:45:04 PM  
bfh0417:
Unfortunately, it's the child care aspect of a full school day that is missed the most.

You quickly realize how much the majority of the US economy depends on little people being taken care during the workday, since the majority of working-age adults have children at home.

The part that I think hurts the most is the stories about families right on the financial edge, where one parent has to quit (or go PT) because "free" public school is canceled. Or lack of tech equipment. Or no broadband.

And child/spousal abuse has spiked dramatically.
 
2020-11-27 1:45:24 PM  

gar1013: So do paywalls


Yes we all want things for free. You are not entitled to free things.
 
2020-11-27 1:46:09 PM  
Anne Frank, you whiners.   Over two years hidden in an attic behind a secret bookcase, and then the death camps.

Buck up.
 
2020-11-27 1:48:39 PM  
To be fair, learning the remote is a lot more complicated these days.

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2020-11-27 1:49:02 PM  

gar1013: So do paywalls


Wait till the vaccines show up. Then tell us about paywalls.

/tanstaafanything
 
2020-11-27 1:51:34 PM  
 
2020-11-27 1:52:44 PM  

gar1013: strapp3r: gar1013: So do paywalls

PAY FOR JOURNALISM!

Lol. That's what their advertisers are for.

The WSJ is worth paying for. The Washington Post? Hope their "journalists" are good at coding.


Telling journalists to become coders is disgusting and vile. It requires too much accuracy.
 
2020-11-27 1:54:22 PM  
Every depiction of the future for the last 40 years showed virtual classes and meetings.   
If you gonna be about it, then be about it.... We're doing what we're supposed to do.

I've listened in on my grandson's classes, and from what i can tell, he and his classmates are participating in the lesson at LEAST as good as kids did in the old-school/in-person way, and most likely much more involved than we ever were.      Like, the teacher and kids are over-compensating for the distance, (and its a good thing).

Yes, i won't pretend there aren't drawbacks, namely the removal of the social factor, but then again.... kids in my day were miserable for those very same social aspect things.... (popular kids, loser kids, bullying... all of that is now irrelevant).    If these kids are socially distance, and grow up and work socially distant, remote jobs....  who's to say they really lost anything?
 
2020-11-27 1:57:03 PM  

gar1013: The WSJ is worth paying for.


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2020-11-27 1:57:09 PM  

Dewey Fidalgo: Anne Frank, you whiners.   Over two years hidden in an attic behind a secret bookcase, and then the death camps.


Not to mention flying across the ocean while deaf and blind.
 
2020-11-27 1:59:18 PM  

We Ate the Necco Wafers: Transcript of how remote learning frequently goes. (PDF)


The Kids Who Stare At Goats, eh?
 
2020-11-27 2:00:17 PM  
We teachers are frustrated, too. We are constantly derided for not wanting to risk our lives to teach in person and for students failing our classes. I haven't taught in person since early March.  I'd love to go back to my classroom, but y'all won't wear freaking masks or stop having large gatherings without said masks or social distancing. My students are constantly telling me about their trips to Mexico (border town) and the parties they went to over the weekend. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one I know sacrificing my social life to keep myself, and the ones I love, safe.

If they try to make me go back before it's safe to do so, I'll quit.

I've tried my best, but I will no longer lose sleep over students whose parents won't put in a modicum of effort to help me motivate their children. My mental and physical health are more important to me.
 
2020-11-27 2:01:21 PM  

Dewey Fidalgo: Anne Frank, you whiners.   Over two years hidden in an attic behind a secret bookcase, and then the death camps.



Not to mention getting  lost somewhere at sea.
 
2020-11-27 2:02:09 PM  
My kid is doing awesome, but that's because he is better than other kids.
 
2020-11-27 2:02:36 PM  
confirmation i'm old, a half my youtube subs are educational lecture serieses
 
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