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(Politico (Europe))   Coronavirus miracle drug linked to psychiatric disorders. Whoops   (politico.eu) divider line
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2020-11-27 2:35:02 PM  
I believe it
 
2020-11-27 2:59:21 PM  
Umh, I think we already established that for covid it is not a miracle drug and does nothing to treat the disease.
 
2020-11-27 3:14:21 PM  
So basically, it should be prescribed to trump supporters in large quantities, right?
 
2020-11-27 3:22:37 PM  
Everything is starting to make sense.
 
2020-11-27 4:01:14 PM  

labman: So basically, it should bewas prescribed to people who later became trump supporters in large quantities, right?


FTFY
 
2020-11-27 4:22:43 PM  

FarkaDark: Umh, I think we already established that for covid it is not a miracle drug and does nothing to treat the disease.


Most of us figured that out about 6 months ago. Even Trump himself when he actually needed treatment. And yet...

Top Scientist Left Stunned by 'Very Odd' Hydroxychloroquine Senate Hearing (11/20/20 at 11:46 AM EST)
 
2020-11-27 5:02:00 PM  
Apparently, it results in delusions of grandeur, paranoia, narcissistic tendencies, and incestuous attraction to ones daughter.
 
2020-11-27 5:08:05 PM  
If that's what they gave trump , how could we tell ??
 
2020-11-27 5:49:04 PM  
Are they still talking about bleach?
 
2020-11-27 6:03:58 PM  
I would be really concerned by someone with Covid who did not consider suicide. The long term effects are really bad. I know somone who still can't go to work because of major stomach issues despite his doctor clearing him in August. It is normal and intellectually healthy to be suicidal when faced with such a long term, possibly permanent, illness.
 
2020-11-27 6:21:28 PM  

mikalmd: If that's what they gave trump , how could we tell ??


He claimed to be taking it as a precaution back in May. When he encountered the real virus he was given a long list of stuff including expensive monoclonal antibodies from Regeneron and cheap stuff like dexamethasone (a steroid which could also affect his mental state). HCQ and bleach were nowhere on the list.
 
2020-11-27 6:22:32 PM  

GRCooper: Apparently, it results in delusions of grandeur, paranoia, narcissistic tendencies, and incestuous attraction to ones daughter.


You forgot denial of reality, even when faced with overwhelming evidence.
 
2020-11-27 6:36:20 PM  
Thank God Trump never gave a tacit approval to something like aspirin.
 
2020-11-27 6:53:03 PM  
Should give trump supporters carfentanyl instead of hydrochlorine.
 
2020-11-27 7:13:52 PM  

Al Tsheimers: GRCooper: Apparently, it results in delusions of grandeur, paranoia, narcissistic tendencies, and incestuous attraction to ones daughter.

You forgot denial of reality, even when faced with overwhelming evidence.


He lost money on a casino, so I'm guessing that was a pre-existing condition.
 
2020-11-27 9:05:15 PM  
But how would you know?
 
2020-11-28 3:27:12 AM  
Um... yeah... we've known that HCQ is linked to lots of nasty brain effects for a while. No small number of soldiers in 'Nam preferred to risk malaria rather than take it.
 
2020-11-28 11:04:41 AM  

erik-k: Um... yeah... we've known that HCQ is linked to lots of nasty brain effects for a while. No small number of soldiers in 'Nam preferred to risk malaria rather than take it.


Exactly.  Chloroquine and it's relatives are only used in cases where there are no better options, it's not like they're not problematic.
 
2020-11-29 2:38:21 AM  

FarkaDark: Umh, I think we already established that for covid it is not a miracle drug and does nothing to treat the disease.

erik-k: Um... yeah... we've known that HCQ is linked to lots of nasty brain effects for a while. No small number of soldiers in 'Nam preferred to risk malaria rather than take it.


Yeah. They finally stopped using the stuff around 1990, mostly because malaria parasites had built up resistance to HCQ and CQ in most of the world (still works in parts of Central America) and the side effects were bad.

Bennie Crabtree: I would be really concerned by someone with Covid who did not consider suicide. The long term effects are really bad. I know somone who still can't go to work because of major stomach issues despite his doctor clearing him in August. It is normal and intellectually healthy to be suicidal when faced with such a long term, possibly permanent, illness.


This article isn't about the virus itself causing depression, anxiety, and insomnia. This one's about Trump's "miracle" drug HCQ which turned out not to work but also turns out to be bad stuff.

Ivo Shandor: mikalmd: If that's what they gave trump , how could we tell ??
He claimed to be taking it as a precaution back in May. When he encountered the real virus he was given a long list of stuff including expensive monoclonal antibodies from Regeneron and cheap stuff like dexamethasone (a steroid which could also affect his mental state). HCQ and bleach were nowhere on the list.


Dexamethasone, unlike HCQ, actually does work pretty well, for definitions of "pretty well" like "cuts deaths by 1/3 among people who have bad cases", though it doesn't do anything to keep you from getting sick, and yeah, it's known to have bad side effects, so they mostly give it if you're otherwise going to be in the ICU.
 
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