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(CBS New York)   Staten Island restaurant declares itself an "Autonomous Zone" in order to defy Gov. Cuomo's COVID-19 restrictions, says it will still be open with full whining   (newyork.cbslocal.com) divider line
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2020-11-27 2:59:09 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: HighOnCraic: At the bottom of the page:  Cash Rules: New York City Businesses To Face $1,000 Fine For Failing To Accept Dollars, Coins As Payment

Really?  Half the places here barely take cash due to the 'coin shortage'.


I just thought it was funny phrasing, since the Wu Tang Clan is from Staten Island.
 
2020-11-27 3:14:09 PM  

JerseyTim: There's a car parts place near me that also declared itself an Auto Zone.


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2020-11-27 3:16:09 PM  
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2020-11-27 3:17:00 PM  

NuclearPenguins: Name and shame the owners, workers, and patrons.


Ya, please no.  Enforce the laws.  I feel really bad for these businesses.  When small businesses do shiat like that, it is because government is not doing enough to address the financial impact of these closures.  Blaming the poor f$ckers at the bottom scrambling to make a living is not the right approach.
 
2020-11-27 3:44:45 PM  

Boo_Guy: Someone tried that near me, they revoked all his licenses and closed the place.

He sold food anyway.

So the next day the cops came with locksmiths and changed all the locks.

Owner tried to smash them, and away to jail he went.


This.

This is how you handle this. You don't treat their "sovereignty" as if it were legitimate. You slap them down just like you would any other violator. Don't legitimize their claim.
 
2020-11-27 3:45:04 PM  
Canada financial assistance for small businesses includes:
1) unemployment extensions to employees
2) monthly cash payments to business owners
3) zero interest business loans (actually only 80% needs to be paid back)
4) rent relief (business pays 25%, Government pays 50%, landlord eats 25%)

Most businesses should be able to survive with this type of financial support.  If businesses cannot last a few more months abiding regulations, it could mean it is insufficient in terms of financial aid or it could mean the business was not that strong to begin with or just unwilling to take the hit.
 
2020-11-27 3:52:48 PM  

mrshowrules: When small businesses do shiat like that, it is because government is not doing enough to address the financial impact of these closures.


They probably didn't budget for it.  I would bet up for a vote many taxpayers would rather businesses open up and take proper precautions than pay people's livings indefinitely.
 
2020-11-27 4:13:06 PM  

Abox: mrshowrules: When small businesses do shiat like that, it is because government is not doing enough to address the financial impact of these closures.

They probably didn't budget for it.  I would bet up for a vote many taxpayers would rather businesses open up and take proper precautions than pay people's livings indefinitely.


Indefinitely?  Nobody said anything about indefinitely.  Just for about 4 weeks while we all go through a hardcore close-down.  Afterward, some relief continuing for some businesses as others cautiously re-open with strong precautions.  And those strong precautions get relaxed over weeks as the testing in the area continues to be good.  But as soon as an outbreak shows up, clamp down on the area again and shut down everything for another 2 weeks.  That's the way it should happen, the way it should have happened 8 months ago.

Problem is: MURICA, fark YEAH.  Even if it's just a small percentage of dickheads who persist in not taking precautions, flare-ups of the virus will happen and they'll be used as proof that the hardcore lockdown didn't work.  And rightly so, because it didn't, because of those dickheads.  An invisible disease that can be transmitted from people without symptoms is custom made for science-deniers to go about business as usual, without painting even a drop of lamb's blood on their lintels.
 
2020-11-27 4:14:28 PM  

JustToLetYouKnowFriend: In two weeks we are going to be looking back on 2300 dead a day as a better time.


I miss all the pre covid Farkers who thought this would be awesome .
 
2020-11-27 4:24:12 PM  

RottenEggs: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: In two weeks we are going to be looking back on 2300 dead a day as a better time.

I miss all the pre covid Farkers who thought this would be awesome .


Why would people be in favor of 2300 dead/day before COVID?  Or after?  What nonsense are you babbling about?
 
2020-11-27 4:41:35 PM  
Daft Cafe Owners: how about "ah, nope."
 
2020-11-27 4:44:35 PM  

whitroth: Daft Cafe Owners: how about "ah, nope."


Oh, or "I declare this Monopoly money to be Real Money, here, I'll pay my bill."?
 
2020-11-27 4:51:07 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: grimlock1972: while i can understand the frustration of small business owners it is exactly this kind of attitude from trump on down that has kept this country from getting the pandemic under control.

Exactly! The commoners should not be able to make their own choices. Just shut up, submit, and comply.


If and when your decisions don't threaten those around me I won't give a fark.

Why can't I shoot my gun around outside my backdoor of my neighborhood?  It's a bad decision, but it's my decision.  The government shouldn't be able to tell me I can't shoot my guns whenever and wherever I like.

Why can't I drink and drive?  Why is the government telling me what I can't do with my body and my car i own?

Where do you live? Where do the people you love live? Mind if I drive around drunk firing rounds around your neighborhood?  You shouldn't care, its my choice, even if it is a bad choice, it's my choice.  If I kill a couple people either through drunk driving or hitting them with bullets ill just have to live with that consequence, and nobody has the right to be upset, I just made a personal choice and you have to respect that choice.  If I permanently damage people where they have to live with permanent lung damage, paralyze them, or destroy some of their organs same thing, you'd have to respect my decision.

Until there's a vaccine widely available that you and people like you can choose not to take, the choices you make negatively effect other people and put their lives and people they care about in danger, financially and physically.

You just sound like a child, not like some libertarian hero.  Choices have consequences, living in a society means participating in said society in a manner to not put burdens or threaten other people's lives with your choices.
 
2020-11-27 4:56:13 PM  

Abox: mrshowrules: When small businesses do shiat like that, it is because government is not doing enough to address the financial impact of these closures.

They probably didn't budget for it.  I would bet up for a vote many taxpayers would rather businesses open up and take proper precautions than pay people's livings indefinitely.


Wut?

Anyways.  It is not really indefinite anymore.  It should be around 6 months or less.
 
2020-11-27 5:11:07 PM  
"Cool, cool." says Gov. Cuomo while signing the order to halt all transportation to Staten Island
 
2020-11-27 5:25:12 PM  

Aquapope: RottenEggs: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: In two weeks we are going to be looking back on 2300 dead a day as a better time.

I miss all the pre covid Farkers who thought this would be awesome .

Why would people be in favor of 2300 dead/day before COVID?  Or after?  What nonsense are you babbling about?


Some pre covid Farkers woulld always go on about how one third of humans need to die off .
/ surely you have been here long enough to remember that .
 
2020-11-27 5:29:02 PM  

RottenEggs: Aquapope: RottenEggs: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: In two weeks we are going to be looking back on 2300 dead a day as a better time.

I miss all the pre covid Farkers who thought this would be awesome .

Why would people be in favor of 2300 dead/day before COVID?  Or after?  What nonsense are you babbling about?

Some pre covid Farkers woulld always go on about how one third of humans need to die off .
/ surely you have been here long enough to remember that .


No, I have never heard anybody, on or off Fark, say that we need 2.5 billion people to die.  If somebody on Fark talked that shiat, they didn't do it enough to make waves or an impression.  It's not a thing, you're just trying to make it a thing.  Why?   Nobody said that, just stop making shiat up.
 
2020-11-27 5:32:09 PM  

RottenEggs: Aquapope: RottenEggs: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: In two weeks we are going to be looking back on 2300 dead a day as a better time.

I miss all the pre covid Farkers who thought this would be awesome .

Why would people be in favor of 2300 dead/day before COVID?  Or after?  What nonsense are you babbling about?

Some pre covid Farkers woulld always go on about how one third of humans need to die off .
/ surely you have been here long enough to remember that .


OH, shiat, I get it.  You're talking about the B Ark from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.  You know that's fiction, right?  Nobody actually thinks we should build a big spaceship to send you and the telephone disinfectors off to a new home planet...  Oh my god, you thought that was a real plan!
 
2020-11-27 5:32:20 PM  

Aquapope: RottenEggs: Aquapope: RottenEggs: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: In two weeks we are going to be looking back on 2300 dead a day as a better time.

I miss all the pre covid Farkers who thought this would be awesome .

Why would people be in favor of 2300 dead/day before COVID?  Or after?  What nonsense are you babbling about?

Some pre covid Farkers woulld always go on about how one third of humans need to die off .
/ surely you have been here long enough to remember that .

No, I have never heard anybody, on or off Fark, say that we need 2.5 billion people to die.  If somebody on Fark talked that shiat, they didn't do it enough to make waves or an impression.  It's not a thing, you're just trying to make it a thing.  Why?   Nobody said that, just stop making shiat up.


Well you're not here that often otherwise I would recognize who you are .
 
2020-11-27 5:43:07 PM  

RottenEggs: Aquapope: RottenEggs: Aquapope: RottenEggs: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: In two weeks we are going to be looking back on 2300 dead a day as a better time.

I miss all the pre covid Farkers who thought this would be awesome .

Why would people be in favor of 2300 dead/day before COVID?  Or after?  What nonsense are you babbling about?

Some pre covid Farkers woulld always go on about how one third of humans need to die off .
/ surely you have been here long enough to remember that .

No, I have never heard anybody, on or off Fark, say that we need 2.5 billion people to die.  If somebody on Fark talked that shiat, they didn't do it enough to make waves or an impression.  It's not a thing, you're just trying to make it a thing.  Why?   Nobody said that, just stop making shiat up.

Well you're not here that often otherwise I would recognize who you are .


I know, I rarely post.  Sometimes a real numbnuts shows up and draws me out, and that's when I post.  Gosh, before today, I can't remember when I last posted anything on Fark.

C'mon, man.  Try harder.  Take some pride in your trolling.  Be creative, be original, say something funny or insightful if you can.  Don't just be any old turd in the punchbowl, be a turd with salted dry-roasted peanuts and sun-dried tomatoes in it, in the punchbowl.
 
2020-11-27 5:52:13 PM  

Aquapope: RottenEggs: Aquapope: RottenEggs: Aquapope: RottenEggs: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: In two weeks we are going to be looking back on 2300 dead a day as a better time.

I miss all the pre covid Farkers who thought this would be awesome .

Why would people be in favor of 2300 dead/day before COVID?  Or after?  What nonsense are you babbling about?

Some pre covid Farkers woulld always go on about how one third of humans need to die off .
/ surely you have been here long enough to remember that .

No, I have never heard anybody, on or off Fark, say that we need 2.5 billion people to die.  If somebody on Fark talked that shiat, they didn't do it enough to make waves or an impression.  It's not a thing, you're just trying to make it a thing.  Why?   Nobody said that, just stop making shiat up.

Well you're not here that often otherwise I would recognize who you are .

I know, I rarely post.  Sometimes a real numbnuts shows up and draws me out, and that's when I post.  Gosh, before today, I can't remember when I last posted anything on Fark.

C'mon, man.  Try harder.  Take some pride in your trolling.  Be creative, be original, say something funny or insightful if you can.  Don't just be any old turd in the punchbowl, be a turd with salted dry-roasted peanuts and sun-dried tomatoes in it, in the punchbowl.


You're doing a fairly good job of it . Kudos !
/ taking notes
 
2020-11-27 5:57:32 PM  

RottenEggs: Aquapope: RottenEggs: Aquapope: RottenEggs: Aquapope: RottenEggs: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: In two weeks we are going to be looking back on 2300 dead a day as a better time.

I miss all the pre covid Farkers who thought this would be awesome .

Why would people be in favor of 2300 dead/day before COVID?  Or after?  What nonsense are you babbling about?

Some pre covid Farkers woulld always go on about how one third of humans need to die off .
/ surely you have been here long enough to remember that .

No, I have never heard anybody, on or off Fark, say that we need 2.5 billion people to die.  If somebody on Fark talked that shiat, they didn't do it enough to make waves or an impression.  It's not a thing, you're just trying to make it a thing.  Why?   Nobody said that, just stop making shiat up.

Well you're not here that often otherwise I would recognize who you are .

I know, I rarely post.  Sometimes a real numbnuts shows up and draws me out, and that's when I post.  Gosh, before today, I can't remember when I last posted anything on Fark.

C'mon, man.  Try harder.  Take some pride in your trolling.  Be creative, be original, say something funny or insightful if you can.  Don't just be any old turd in the punchbowl, be a turd with salted dry-roasted peanuts and sun-dried tomatoes in it, in the punchbowl.

You're doing a fairly good job of it . Kudos !
/ taking notes


"I know you are but what am I" is your response?   C'mon, man, didn't I tell you you need to up your game?  Try harder.  Don't be a 4th grader your whole adult life.
 
2020-11-27 6:10:16 PM  

Aquapope: RottenEggs: Aquapope: RottenEggs: Aquapope: RottenEggs: Aquapope: RottenEggs: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: In two weeks we are going to be looking back on 2300 dead a day as a better time.

I miss all the pre covid Farkers who thought this would be awesome .

Why would people be in favor of 2300 dead/day before COVID?  Or after?  What nonsense are you babbling about?

Some pre covid Farkers woulld always go on about how one third of humans need to die off .
/ surely you have been here long enough to remember that .

No, I have never heard anybody, on or off Fark, say that we need 2.5 billion people to die.  If somebody on Fark talked that shiat, they didn't do it enough to make waves or an impression.  It's not a thing, you're just trying to make it a thing.  Why?   Nobody said that, just stop making shiat up.

Well you're not here that often otherwise I would recognize who you are .

I know, I rarely post.  Sometimes a real numbnuts shows up and draws me out, and that's when I post.  Gosh, before today, I can't remember when I last posted anything on Fark.

C'mon, man.  Try harder.  Take some pride in your trolling.  Be creative, be original, say something funny or insightful if you can.  Don't just be any old turd in the punchbowl, be a turd with salted dry-roasted peanuts and sun-dried tomatoes in it, in the punchbowl.

You're doing a fairly good job of it . Kudos !
/ taking notes

"I know you are but what am I" is your response?   C'mon, man, didn't I tell you you need to up your game?  Try harder.  Don't be a 4th grader your whole adult life.


Please stop failing . You are not good at this .
 
2020-11-27 6:27:17 PM  

RottenEggs: Aquapope: RottenEggs: Aquapope: RottenEggs: Aquapope: RottenEggs: Aquapope: RottenEggs: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: In two weeks we are going to be looking back on 2300 dead a day as a better time.

I miss all the pre covid Farkers who thought this would be awesome .

Why would people be in favor of 2300 dead/day before COVID?  Or after?  What nonsense are you babbling about?

Some pre covid Farkers woulld always go on about how one third of humans need to die off .
/ surely you have been here long enough to remember that .

No, I have never heard anybody, on or off Fark, say that we need 2.5 billion people to die.  If somebody on Fark talked that shiat, they didn't do it enough to make waves or an impression.  It's not a thing, you're just trying to make it a thing.  Why?   Nobody said that, just stop making shiat up.

Well you're not here that often otherwise I would recognize who you are .

I know, I rarely post.  Sometimes a real numbnuts shows up and draws me out, and that's when I post.  Gosh, before today, I can't remember when I last posted anything on Fark.

C'mon, man.  Try harder.  Take some pride in your trolling.  Be creative, be original, say something funny or insightful if you can.  Don't just be any old turd in the punchbowl, be a turd with salted dry-roasted peanuts and sun-dried tomatoes in it, in the punchbowl.

You're doing a fairly good job of it . Kudos !
/ taking notes

"I know you are but what am I" is your response?   C'mon, man, didn't I tell you you need to up your game?  Try harder.  Don't be a 4th grader your whole adult life.

Please stop failing . You are not good at this .


I'm not good at failing?  I don't think your insult was as insulting as you think it was.
 
BHK
2020-11-27 7:18:34 PM  
When I was a teenager, the left was anti-war, anti-establishment, and didn't trust authority. Now you all are a bunch of bootlicking sheep that are scared of anyone who defies your shepherds. What happened?
 
2020-11-27 7:23:49 PM  

BHK: When I was a teenager, the left was anti-war, anti-establishment, and didn't trust authority. Now you all are a bunch of bootlicking sheep that are scared of anyone who defies your shepherds. What happened?


Really makes you think.
 
2020-11-27 8:10:25 PM  

JerseyTim: BHK: When I was a teenager, the left was anti-war, anti-establishment, and didn't trust authority. Now you all are a bunch of bootlicking sheep that are scared of anyone who defies your shepherds. What happened?

Really makes you think.


Garsh, it's a real puzzler, that is.
 
2020-11-27 9:56:22 PM  

Aquapope: StoPPeRmobile: grimlock1972: while i can understand the frustration of small business owners it is exactly this kind of attitude from trump on down that has kept this country from getting the pandemic under control.

Exactly! The commoners should not be able to make their own choices. Just shut up, submit, and comply.

Of course everybody can make their own choices.  But you should pay a penalty for making the wrong choice.  Just like a chef in a restaurant could choose to not store the meat in a fridge, but he has to pay the penalty of having his restaurant shut down and pay the hospital bills of the patrons who get sick.

Health regulations aren't an assault on your civil liberties, and neither are pandemic precautions.  Grow up and turn off the Atlas Shrugged audio book.


Geez, mask-nutters can't even handle absolute submission and compliance. No wonder this country is a joke to the world. Well, at least we can blame everything on one old man and have another even older man save us all. So we have that going for us, which is nice.
 
2020-11-27 9:58:54 PM  

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2020-11-27 10:16:49 PM  

kitsuneymg: Boo_Guy: Someone tried that near me, they revoked all his licenses and closed the place.

He sold food anyway.

So the next day the cops came with locksmiths and changed all the locks.

Owner tried to smash them, and away to jail he went.

This.

This is how you handle this. You don't treat their "sovereignty" as if it were legitimate. You slap them down just like you would any other violator. Don't legitimize their claim.


They can't. The SCOTUS does not want to rule on this. It is an abridgy of free speech. One important restrictiin is in speaking to one that is hearing challenged that can read lips and facial signals. Why should one be limited to communicate with them?

It's seems that unless there is a serious push to equate with "fire in a theatre" this won't ever be heard.

So just shut the eff up, submit, and comply.
 
2020-11-27 10:30:54 PM  

ViolentEastCoastCity: mrschwen: ViolentEastCoastCity: ImpendingCynic: Cartologically speaking, it makes no sense that Staten Island is part of New York State. You should have let New Jersey deal with that floating trash heap.

Damn, did NJ sh*t in your cheerios this morning?

I wouldn't put it past NJ to actually sh*t in someone's cheerios.

You really can't put anything past us.  Just when you think we're at our most ridiculous.



If we're shiatting on your cherios, you massively f*cked up, because otherwise, we ain't got time for your shiat.
 
2020-11-27 10:53:42 PM  

grumpfuff: ViolentEastCoastCity: mrschwen: ViolentEastCoastCity: ImpendingCynic: Cartologically speaking, it makes no sense that Staten Island is part of New York State. You should have let New Jersey deal with that floating trash heap.

Damn, did NJ sh*t in your cheerios this morning?

I wouldn't put it past NJ to actually sh*t in someone's cheerios.

You really can't put anything past us.  Just when you think we're at our most ridiculous.


If we're shiatting on your cherios, you massively f*cked up, because otherwise, we ain't got time for your shiat.


It's true.  We're very busy with jersey shenanigans.
 
2020-11-28 3:45:00 PM  

mrshowrules: Abox: mrshowrules: When small businesses do shiat like that, it is because government is not doing enough to address the financial impact of these closures.

They probably didn't budget for it.  I would bet up for a vote many taxpayers would rather businesses open up and take proper precautions than pay people's livings indefinitely.

Wut?

Anyways.  It is not really indefinite anymore.  It should be around 6 months or less.


lol...tell taxpayers, see if they bite.
 
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