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(AZ Family)   You know your home-repair project has gone horribly wrong when it ends in a murder-suicide   (azfamily.com) divider line
    More: Sad, Domestic violence, Husband, Wife, Mesa Police Department, Ronald Makinson, home-repair project, numerous witnesses, Family  
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4848 clicks; posted to Main » on 27 Nov 2020 at 3:30 AM (7 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2020-11-27 12:24:47 AM  
Gone astoundingly right
 
2020-11-27 12:27:13 AM  
Still, beautiful Porte-cochère.
 
2020-11-27 12:51:13 AM  
Sounds like every repair project we've ever attempted

It's not a real project until someone is bleeding
 
2020-11-27 1:15:05 AM  
Police said the investigators who served the search warrant at the home found a black handgun near Makinson.

Oh sure, if it had been a white handgun they wouldn't have mentioned it
 
2020-11-27 1:17:12 AM  
Obviously you're not familiar with my home-repair projects
 
2020-11-27 3:11:52 AM  
Funny headline, ty
 
2020-11-27 3:34:55 AM  
"I told you a thousand times I wanted the TEAL tiling for the kitchen counters!!"  *BLAM*
 
2020-11-27 3:37:04 AM  
They're gonna need some Scotchgard for the carpet, now.
 
2020-11-27 3:44:10 AM  
Poor kid, thats really farked up.
 
2020-11-27 3:53:49 AM  
It's a good thing they had a gun in the house to keep them safe.
 
2020-11-27 3:55:08 AM  
FTA: It's not clear if the couple had a history of domestic violence issues.

I doubt the sales staff at either Lowes or Home Depot didn't see something. Which is nearly as snarky a reply as most will feel compelled to approach the macabre gallows of gun ownership in America. The article's last line is addressing, I think correctly, an aspect of "defunding" the police. Had there been a social work hotline to call that doesn't involve stressed law officers maintained on levels of adrenaline that could kill beasts of burden and makes them prone to ambiguous ultimatums or straight-up trigger-happy...America's outcomes with gun ownership would improve.

Meanwhile, the NRA? An organization that might have approached its charter with scientific consultation-- it has devolved into a dogfight of evangelicals.
 
2020-11-27 3:55:52 AM  

VictoryCabal: It's a good thing they had a gun in the house to keep them safe.


This
 
2020-11-27 4:02:29 AM  
I'm not saying it's right but I can understand it.
 
2020-11-27 4:04:42 AM  
Well, I'm currently renovating my apartaments. 6 months or so, me and my wife. Neither murder nor suicide are out of my books at that point. I hope I'll be strong enough to push through. Think of the children, Grahor.
 
2020-11-27 4:05:31 AM  

waxbeans: VictoryCabal: It's a good thing they had a gun in the house to keep them safe.

This


Let's pretend the gun was in the house along with everyone else that was involved, except for the dude.
No one would have been shot.  The gun didn't cause this, the dude did.
 
2020-11-27 4:06:33 AM  
I dunno. If we're repairing the evil altar, seems like at least three people should become deadites and start murdering everyone else.
 
2020-11-27 4:10:27 AM  

C18H27NO3: waxbeans: VictoryCabal: It's a good thing they had a gun in the house to keep them safe.

This

Let's pretend the gun was in the house along with everyone else that was involved, except for the dude.
No one would have been shot.  The gun didn't cause this, the dude did.


I can see that at one level.
But no gun at all and nobody gets shot no matter what regardless of there being a would-be shooter or not
 
2020-11-27 4:10:50 AM  
A murder suicide scenario actually sounds pretty good for a "fixer upper".
 
2020-11-27 4:16:14 AM  
"It's not clear if the couple had a history of domestic violence issues."

They do now.

Also, I wonder what the odds are on a loaded gun kept unsecured in a bedroom has been used in self-defence against an intruder vs killing someone who lives in the house.
 
2020-11-27 4:20:16 AM  
I wonder if murder was on the honey do list.
 
2020-11-27 4:31:05 AM  

Don Gato: I wonder if murder was on the honey do list.


Suicide may have been.
 
2020-11-27 4:36:06 AM  
"It's not clear if the couple had a history of domestic violence issues"

I'm going to make a tiny leap here and say OH HELL YEAH THEY DID.
 
2020-11-27 4:41:53 AM  
This is why it's also idiotic for people to have constant access to guns..When any petty argument can
lead to gun play and death...Especially among the ignorant mouth breathers who's only way of
expressing themselves (as in telling a toddler "use your words" kinda way)  is to have a meltdown and
start shooting out of frustration and anger...
 
2020-11-27 4:55:18 AM  

waxbeans: C18H27NO3: waxbeans: VictoryCabal: It's a good thing they had a gun in the house to keep them safe.

This

Let's pretend the gun was in the house along with everyone else that was involved, except for the dude.
No one would have been shot.  The gun didn't cause this, the dude did.

I can see that at one level.
But no gun at all and nobody gets shot no matter what regardless of there being a would-be shooter or not


Ah, but you miss the argument there. Which is "guns are more important than people". Remove the person from the situation? Easy and simple. Remove the gun? UNPOSSIBLE!
 
2020-11-27 4:56:40 AM  
That's the dark ending to the money pit.
 
2020-11-27 4:58:36 AM  

MissFeasance: Sounds like every repair project we've ever attempted

It's not a real project until someone is bleeding


Sort of a "show me your commitment" project clause...
I like it.
Lenders lead such boring lives, until you get in the octagon and explain how invested you Really are...
 
2020-11-27 5:09:09 AM  
I envision a world where home improvement stores are required to main a mental health desk on site as well as a 24 hour crisis intervention team.
Like a human hazmat law... you created this mess with your "do-it-yourself" advertisements...so clean this up...

The NRA will capitalize on this by shouting "See??  IT WASN'T OUR FAULT AFTER-ALL!!"
 
2020-11-27 5:13:38 AM  
No worries, HGTV will edit that part out before the episode airs.
 
2020-11-27 5:13:48 AM  

Smoking GNU: waxbeans: C18H27NO3: waxbeans: VictoryCabal: It's a good thing they had a gun in the house to keep them safe.

This

Let's pretend the gun was in the house along with everyone else that was involved, except for the dude.
No one would have been shot.  The gun didn't cause this, the dude did.

I can see that at one level.
But no gun at all and nobody gets shot no matter what regardless of there being a would-be shooter or not

Ah, but you miss the argument there. Which is "guns are more important than people". Remove the person from the situation? Easy and simple. Remove the gun? UNPOSSIBLE!


😔
 
2020-11-27 5:14:35 AM  
Yet more evidence that keeping a gun handy in the house is far more likely to destroy your life than it is to save it.
 
2020-11-27 5:22:19 AM  
Yeah, I'm sure it was just this one home improvement project that the wife was being a complete bee-eye-itch about. Totally nothing else in their entire marriage that she nagged about.
 
2020-11-27 5:41:29 AM  
Also gonna make a little hop and guess ALCOHOL WAS INVOLVED TOO.
 
2020-11-27 6:05:23 AM  
Was anyone else reading the article just to find out what home improvement project they were working on?

My guess was kitchen, we redid our kitchen and it was a nightmare.
 
2020-11-27 6:15:44 AM  
"It's not clear if the couple had a history of domestic violence issues."

Oh sweetie...Chances are the police were called at one point and the cops didn't do jack shiat to help either.
 
2020-11-27 6:24:01 AM  
Why couldn't it have been these two?  Why, God, why?!  Innocent people shouldn't have to die over home renovations.  These two douche canoes, on the other hand...
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2020-11-27 6:28:20 AM  
I just do what Mrs h wants done
No gun play involved
 
2020-11-27 6:29:36 AM  

C18H27NO3: waxbeans: VictoryCabal: It's a good thing they had a gun in the house to keep them safe.

This

Let's pretend the gun was in the house along with everyone else that was involved, except for the dude.
No one would have been shot.  The gun didn't cause this, the dude did.


And if there had been no gun, the guy would have strangled his wife and daughter.

/ According to moronic dipshiats
 
2020-11-27 6:40:19 AM  
Wow all this when company was visiting.
 
2020-11-27 6:50:17 AM  
AND I SAY 220, 221 WHAT EVER IT TAKES!  Stop waving that Underwriter's Electrician Guide in my face, woman.
 
2020-11-27 7:04:00 AM  

jaytkay: C18H27NO3: waxbeans: VictoryCabal: It's a good thing they had a gun in the house to keep them safe.

This

Let's pretend the gun was in the house along with everyone else that was involved, except for the dude.
No one would have been shot.  The gun didn't cause this, the dude did.

And if there had been no gun, the guy would have strangled his wife and daughter.

/ According to moronic dipshiats


And then turn his hands on himself.
 
2020-11-27 7:11:35 AM  
But, did it end up improving the home?
 
2020-11-27 7:15:12 AM  
--- on the upside, their kids will inherit a freshly renovated home and all that insurance money. sweet !
 
2020-11-27 7:23:42 AM  

VictoryCabal: It's a good thing they had a gun in the house to keep them safe.


QFT. Everyone thinks they won't end up as a suicide or homicide statistic.
 
2020-11-27 7:46:01 AM  
Maybe the fight was about who would clean the blood off the master bedroom floor?
 
2020-11-27 7:48:31 AM  

Sorelian's Ghost: Was anyone else reading the article just to find out what home improvement project they were working on?

My guess was kitchen, we redid our kitchen and it was a nightmare.


Kitchen or bathroom. Remodeling non-plumbed rooms never escalate to that level of violence.
 
2020-11-27 7:52:39 AM  

C18H27NO3: waxbeans: VictoryCabal: It's a good thing they had a gun in the house to keep them safe.

This

Let's pretend the gun was in the house along with everyone else that was involved, except for the dude.
No one would have been shot.  The gun didn't cause this, the dude did.


Houses have to have people in them. That's their purpose. To house people. They don't have to have guns in them. That part is optional, and in so many of these cases, they tend to get used more often in a flash of intense emotion (and overwhelmingly most often by a guy) than in self defense.

If you drop the self defense fantasy, they can be kept at a range or locked up in a timed safe, and there would be real harm reduction in these scenarios. But speaking of emotion, rationality and guns are like oil and water to a large number of Americans.
 
2020-11-27 7:57:37 AM  

fusillade762: "I told you a thousand times I wanted the TEAL tiling for the kitchen counters!!"  *BLAM*


The fact that someone would want tile on their kitchen counter makes me understand why he'd shoot her. Tile for backsplash yes. Counters no! This ain't the goddamed 80's!
 
2020-11-27 7:59:06 AM  

whither_apophis: Police said the investigators who served the search warrant at the home found a black handgun near Makinson.

Oh sure, if it had been a white handgun they wouldn't have mentioned it



gee............i wonder if any drugs/alcohol were involved.............what are the odds???

they say you always hurt the ones you love.
 
2020-11-27 8:00:02 AM  

Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen: Why couldn't it have been these two?  Why, God, why?!  Innocent people shouldn't have to die over home renovations.  These two douche canoes, on the other hand...
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You're just pissed because Johnathan is dating Zoey Dachenal
 
2020-11-27 8:36:00 AM  

Invalid Litter Dept: Poor kid, thats really farked up.


I would bet that mommy and daddy have had nasty arguments before this one.  Daughter followed them into the bedroom out of concern.
 
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