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2020-11-27 12:29:32 AM  
The number of people taking this seriously number in the low several.
 
2020-11-27 3:53:40 AM  
  HOLY FARK, that was quite the episode.
 
2020-11-27 4:00:04 AM  

Falco09: HOLY FARK, that was quite the episode.


Agreed. that was one of the best they've done.
 
2020-11-27 4:10:22 AM  
What is said towards the very end...theory confirmed. Nerd gasm.
 
2020-11-27 4:21:05 AM  

The_EliteOne: What is said towards the very end...theory confirmed. Nerd gasm.


If it isn't spoilery what is the theory?

/Saw the episode
 
2020-11-27 4:22:24 AM  
Was that a lothcat?
 
2020-11-27 4:39:31 AM  

TheJadedJester: The_EliteOne: What is said towards the very end...theory confirmed. Nerd gasm.

If it isn't spoilery what is the theory?

/Saw the episode


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2020-11-27 4:39:40 AM  
Did they let George Lucas name the child?
 
2020-11-27 4:46:54 AM  

mrparks: TheJadedJester: The_EliteOne: What is said towards the very end...theory confirmed. Nerd gasm.

If it isn't spoilery what is the theory?

/Saw the episode

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Awesome - I thought you might be hinting at the possibility of someone with an item colored blue or purple showing up.

/The reveal was amazing.
 
2020-11-27 4:47:24 AM  

MessyDwarf: Did they let George Lucas name the child?


BABY YODA is a perfectly comrulent name

(Wonder if Din is going to use his new name- he seemed reluctant)
 
2020-11-27 6:04:45 AM  
When she held his hand and then leaned in and whispered his name into his ear I was all like

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But then she mentioned Vader and then I was like

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2020-11-27 6:35:40 AM  

mrparks: Was that a lothcat?


That us what I thought though I have not freeze framed it to be sure. One wax shown close up last season.
 
2020-11-27 6:45:35 AM  
Dang. That was Dave Filoni's fingerprints everywhere on that episode. I mean, yeah, Ahsoka is his baby girl, but it brought in all the elements. Even the visuals from KOTOR on the interior of the compound. He pulled it all together. It had stealthy Jedi action. It had hard boiled Mandalorian Yojimbo juju. It had talk about children being too old and angry to train. Even a dang Loth-cat. And the reveal on who Ahsoka was after...and the fuzziness of the timeline, given how Ezra Bridger took said piece off the board before Endor, it's a great blend of Filoni's flavor of Star Wars.

If Ahsoka is looking for a returned General, that means that there's a chance to find out what happened with Sabine, Ezra, and square the Filoni circle of story elements.

And on top of all the breadcrumbs, the episode is paced well and is all around tight.
 
2020-11-27 7:04:50 AM  
So how was the dictator of the planet able to fight a former Jedi at all? Ahsoka could just yank the spear from her grasp with the force.

/Much the same problem as Gen. Grievous in Ep. III.
 
2020-11-27 7:34:35 AM  
Rosario Dawson is a good actor but that was not a good portrayal of Asko Tano. The inflection and body language were all wrong. She was way to monotone in her speech and languid in her movements. Asko is more earnest and even at her lowest full of energy.

Still a damn good episode though.
 
2020-11-27 8:06:22 AM  

taintbaggins: Rosario Dawson is a good actor but that was not a good portrayal of Asko Tano. The inflection and body language were all wrong. She was way to monotone in her speech and languid in her movements. Asko is more earnest and even at her lowest full of energy.

Still a damn good episode though.


"Commander...You got old!"
"Had to happen some time"
 
2020-11-27 8:23:58 AM  

ng2810: taintbaggins: Rosario Dawson is a good actor but that was not a good portrayal of Asko Tano. The inflection and body language were all wrong. She was way to monotone in her speech and languid in her movements. Asko is more earnest and even at her lowest full of energy.

Still a damn good episode though.

"Commander...You got old!"
"Had to happen some time"


My thoughts exactly. "earnest and even at her lowest full of energy" She was always protrayed as a teenager, or at most late 20s.... how I wish for my energy at that time!
 
2020-11-27 8:53:37 AM  

taintbaggins: Rosario Dawson is a good actor but that was not a good portrayal of Asko Tano. The inflection and body language were all wrong. She was way to monotone in her speech and languid in her movements. Asko is more earnest and even at her lowest full of energy.

Still a damn good episode though.


Did you see her as Fulcrum in Rebels?

Or at the very end of Rebels as she walked off, and Sabine vowed to keep looking for Ezra?

This Ahsoka is older than Rebels era Ahsoka. She can NOT be a ball of nervous energy. She's a damn grown up.
 
2020-11-27 9:25:25 AM  

hubiestubert: taintbaggins: Rosario Dawson is a good actor but that was not a good portrayal of Asko Tano. The inflection and body language were all wrong. She was way to monotone in her speech and languid in her movements. Asko is more earnest and even at her lowest full of energy.

Still a damn good episode though.

Did you see her as Fulcrum in Rebels?

Or at the very end of Rebels as she walked off, and Sabine vowed to keep looking for Ezra?

This Ahsoka is older than Rebels era Ahsoka. She can NOT be a ball of nervous energy. She's a damn grown up.


I saw all of it and I stand by my assessment.
 
2020-11-27 9:43:55 AM  

hubiestubert: taintbaggins: Rosario Dawson is a good actor but that was not a good portrayal of Asko Tano. The inflection and body language were all wrong. She was way to monotone in her speech and languid in her movements. Asko is more earnest and even at her lowest full of energy.

Still a damn good episode though.

Did you see her as Fulcrum in Rebels?

Or at the very end of Rebels as she walked off, and Sabine vowed to keep looking for Ezra?

This Ahsoka is older than Rebels era Ahsoka. She can NOT be a ball of nervous energy. She's a damn grown up.


Not to mention, she has watched as her master turned to the Dark Side and lived through order 66.
 
2020-11-27 9:57:47 AM  
Hah! Its like this show is bringing back the Expanded Universe bit by bit, and it's staring at the movies and saying "Oh, you don't need us? We'll fine. We don't need YOU! We can tell these same stories without your OT characters."

And they're pulling it off. I'm actually enjoying Star Wars again. I can't farking believe it.
 
2020-11-27 11:00:19 AM  
I'm loving the Eastern and Western fusion and all the nods to material that Star Wars is inspired by. Spaghetti Westerns, Samurai Epics, and Space Operas: three great tastes that taste great together.
 
2020-11-27 11:12:08 AM  
So Disney+ just introduced a Thrawn sized spinoff possibility and I'm happily going to keep giving them money. Hell with your SW movies
 
2020-11-27 11:34:29 AM  

eagles95: So Disney+ just introduced a Thrawn sized spinoff possibility and I'm happily going to keep giving them money. Hell with your SW movies


Right? It feels like the sequels are in a completely different universe (and I didn't hate them the way a lot of folks do).  THIS is Star Wars.
 
2020-11-27 11:36:35 AM  
Now, why couldn't they do something like this instead of the last three movies?

I LOVED this episode.

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2020-11-27 11:37:26 AM  
I love the Sequels, but DAMN this was good, and if this slow-paced, gritty old-school show is the template for the new era of Star Wars, we are SO damn fortunate.

Suck it dry, every single Star Wars hater.  Star Wars is eternal.
 
2020-11-27 11:39:01 AM  
_ _ _ _ _  Gogurt coming to a supermarket near year you.....
Can't wait!!!!!

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2020-11-27 11:59:26 AM  
Now we know what happened to Gorgor!
 
2020-11-27 12:07:52 PM  
So yeah, I'm ready for an Ahsoka Tano spin-off series. Bring it on. Especially if you get Lars Mikkelson to reprise his role as Grand Admiral Thrawn.
 
2020-11-27 12:08:05 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: So how was the dictator of the planet able to fight a former Jedi at all? Ahsoka could just yank the spear from her grasp with the force.

/Much the same problem as Gen. Grievous in Ep. III.


A Long Long Time Ago
In a Galaxy Far Far Away...


Everyone sucked at meele
 
2020-11-27 12:29:27 PM  
Ahsoka was awesome. I haven't seen any of the cartoons, but I knew of her and thought Rosario Dawson did a fantastic job. I hope we get to see more of her before season two is over and was a little miffed that she did the YOUR PRINCESS IS IN ANOTHER CASTLE thing at the end that every side character in this show does. The Michael Biehn cameo was cool as well.

The cinematography was fantastic, too. It felt very Kurosawa-esque, with a particular shout-out to the cold open that had Ahsoka's lightsabers disappearing and reappearing like a vengeful ghost. The muted green palette was a great stylistic choice, but I feel bad for anyone watching this episode on a bad edge or direct-lit LED TV that likely washed out 75% of the detail.

I'd love to see them stay in one place for a few episodes- maybe Gideon's tracking beacon leads him to attacking Din and Grogu at the Jedi Temple and the latter reaches out to swoop in and save the day.
 
2020-11-27 12:41:50 PM  
As an aside, has anyon noticed the timin
 
2020-11-27 12:42:46 PM  

hoodiowithtudio: As an aside, has anyon noticed the timin


Timing of when Giancarlo Esposito was on sesame street and when Mr Hooper died?
 
2020-11-27 12:57:12 PM  
I hope Sabine shows up.  She's Mandalorian and used to have the dark saber.  Surely she could be worked into the story.  She'd be in her mid 40s, I think.  Emily Blunt should play her, especially if she's still in shape like in that Tom Cruise Groundhog Day alien war movie.

Maybe have very artistic graffiti in the background of a couple of scenes...  or show a spaceship that's painted all up in bright colors.  Hint that Sabine is around for a bit before she shows up.  I'm a sucker for that kind of thing.
 
2020-11-27 1:12:16 PM  
So we all just agreed to pretend at some point that Yaddle never existed?
 
2020-11-27 1:26:09 PM  

NeoCortex42: So we all just agreed to pretend at some point that Yaddle never existed?


Who else do you think the baby momma is?
 
2020-11-27 1:27:34 PM  
Hate hate hate the name, but I'm so in love with this episode and the show that I refuse to let it bother me.
 
2020-11-27 1:41:11 PM  

LesserEvil: NeoCortex42: So we all just agreed to pretend at some point that Yaddle never existed?

Who else do you think the baby momma is?


I'm just going off of the statement from Ahsoka that Yoda is the only other one of the species that she's seen.  Yaddle was on the Jedi Council.  She absolutely would have noticed her.
 
2020-11-27 1:55:10 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: So how was the dictator of the planet able to fight a former Jedi at all? Ahsoka could just yank the spear from her grasp with the force.

/Much the same problem as Gen. Grievous in Ep. III.


At the start of the episode I remarked to my wife "Ahsoka is holding her lightsabers wrong."

During the fight with the evil samurai lord magistrate I had the thought that "she's got to be toying with her".

Then the magistrate knocked one saber away... and Ahsoka flipped her other saber into the back-handed grip that she is best known for. And ended the fight pretty much right away.

My take is that Ahsoka wanted the magistrate to be utterly defeated, and to know how easy it could have been, in order to break her and get an answer. Rather than just killing everybody right away and leaving her in a defiant position.
 
2020-11-27 1:57:28 PM  

NeoCortex42: LesserEvil: NeoCortex42: So we all just agreed to pretend at some point that Yaddle never existed?

Who else do you think the baby momma is?

I'm just going off of the statement from Ahsoka that Yoda is the only other one of the species that she's seen.  Yaddle was on the Jedi Council.  She absolutely would have noticed her.


At least according to Wookieepedia, Yaddle withdrew from jedi affairs and stepped down from the council some time after Episode I. Ahsoka may have never encountered her.
 
2020-11-27 1:58:40 PM  

NeoCortex42: LesserEvil: NeoCortex42: So we all just agreed to pretend at some point that Yaddle never existed?

Who else do you think the baby momma is?

I'm just going off of the statement from Ahsoka that Yoda is the only other one of the species that she's seen.  Yaddle was on the Jedi Council.  She absolutely would have noticed her.


Yaddle was gone before Ahsoka was taken in by the Jedi.

You'll notice you don't see Yaddle anywhere after The Phantom Menace. That was 10 years before the events of Attack of the Clones, and Yaddle clearly disappeared some time in that decade. Young tween Ahsoka wasn't made Anakin's apprentice until after the start of the Clone Wars, long after Yaddle's departure.
 
2020-11-27 2:12:07 PM  

JayCab: TheMysteriousStranger: So how was the dictator of the planet able to fight a former Jedi at all? Ahsoka could just yank the spear from her grasp with the force.

/Much the same problem as Gen. Grievous in Ep. III.

At the start of the episode I remarked to my wife "Ahsoka is holding her lightsabers wrong."

During the fight with the evil samurai lord magistrate I had the thought that "she's got to be toying with her".

Then the magistrate knocked one saber away... and Ahsoka flipped her other saber into the back-handed grip that she is best known for. And ended the fight pretty much right away.

My take is that Ahsoka wanted the magistrate to be utterly defeated, and to know how easy it could have been, in order to break her and get an answer. Rather than just killing everybody right away and leaving her in a defiant position.


Up until now. the last recorded appearance of Ahsoka in canon was 4 ABY (the epilogue in Star Wars Rebels). But she wasn't doing any fighting in that epilogue.

Consider, though that she spent 28 years on the run from the Empire, forming and fighting for the Rebellion, and no doubt facing Inquisitors and Imperial-paid bounty hunters during all that time. She's now in her late 40s and she's fighting a little differently, and people are confused... but I think it makes perfect sense.

She's older. She's been through countless battles we never witnessed. She has injuries on top of injuries. She's less flexible and speedy than she was a young woman. She's been living without the benefits of a Jedi Temple for a long time. During her time on the run she probably had to make do with living in the wild, on barren planets, or in places most people wouldn't dare. She hasn't had access to the best in health care, food, or comfort for the majority of her life, and she's been fighting since she was a tween. TWO wars. And who-knows-how-many fights against Imperial Jedi-hunters.

I say that a woman in her late 40s, Jedi training or not, would be feeling the weight of all that age and battle on her shoulders, in her bones, and in her muscles. Ahsoka must surely be tired. She's not in her prime anymore, and she's not living well. She never has. The last time she knew comfort and true peace was when she was a youngling. She's weary as fark, because she has been through nearly 40 years of hell.

So yeah, she adapted. The old style was for a young, agile, acrobatic woman. The style she uses now focuses on other strengths to adapt to her earned weaknesses.

Kenobi did the same thing. He got older and he switched his style. Same with Darth Maul, who couldn't do the acrobatic stuff he did when he was Sidious' apprentice (owing to having half his body removed), and adapted to a more brute-force form of combat (compare his fighting in TPM to his fighting in Rebels).

And let's face it: Yoda wasn't exactly flipping around and looking spry on Dagobah. Jedi aren't gods. They age. They lose a step. They get stiff joints just like anyone else. Sure, they remain in shape as best they can, but the fact is that the force doesn't stop someone from aging and feeling the effects of their accumulated injuries.
 
2020-11-27 2:13:02 PM  

JayCab: TheMysteriousStranger: So how was the dictator of the planet able to fight a former Jedi at all? Ahsoka could just yank the spear from her grasp with the force.

/Much the same problem as Gen. Grievous in Ep. III.

At the start of the episode I remarked to my wife "Ahsoka is holding her lightsabers wrong."

During the fight with the evil samurai lord magistrate I had the thought that "she's got to be toying with her".

Then the magistrate knocked one saber away... and Ahsoka flipped her other saber into the back-handed grip that she is best known for. And ended the fight pretty much right away.

My take is that Ahsoka wanted the magistrate to be utterly defeated, and to know how easy it could have been, in order to break her and get an answer. Rather than just killing everybody right away and leaving her in a defiant position.


alternately, holding the saber "front facing" as she did works better for lighting the face for TV
 
2020-11-27 2:18:07 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: I'm actually enjoying Star Wars again.


Same.  After the abortion bookends around the original trilogy, I am thoroughly enjoying Mando.

I realize, however, they must forge a new story arc and stop fellating nostalgia.

/best part of my week
//watched it twice today
///let Filoni do what he pleases
 
2020-11-27 2:22:37 PM  

WilderKWight: NeoCortex42: LesserEvil: NeoCortex42: So we all just agreed to pretend at some point that Yaddle never existed?

Who else do you think the baby momma is?

I'm just going off of the statement from Ahsoka that Yoda is the only other one of the species that she's seen.  Yaddle was on the Jedi Council.  She absolutely would have noticed her.

Yaddle was gone before Ahsoka was taken in by the Jedi.

You'll notice you don't see Yaddle anywhere after The Phantom Menace. That was 10 years before the events of Attack of the Clones, and Yaddle clearly disappeared some time in that decade. Young tween Ahsoka wasn't made Anakin's apprentice until after the start of the Clone Wars, long after Yaddle's departure.


I guess I can accept that. I tend to forget a lot of the prequel details. It's all just one very dull blur to me.
 
2020-11-27 2:44:27 PM  
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2020-11-27 2:44:55 PM  
OK episode.  I did find Rosario Dawson wooden as Ashoka.  She seemed a bit more of an exposition piece than a character.  Or more of a boring prequel trilogy character than a fun OG trilogy character.

Also a criminal waste of Micheal Biehn.  He should have stolen Mando's armor and then rode off to fight xenomorphs or something.
 
2020-11-27 2:53:44 PM  

Aquapope: I hope Sabine shows up.  She's Mandalorian and used to have the dark saber.  Surely she could be worked into the story.  She'd be in her mid 40s, I think.  Emily Blunt should play her, she should be whitewashed especially if she's still in shape like in that Tom Cruise Groundhog Day alien war movie.


Sabine is clearly Asian/part Asian-looking in Rebels.

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This is her voice actress:

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/and Blunt is only 37
 
2020-11-27 3:23:35 PM  

peterthx: Aquapope: I hope Sabine shows up.  She's Mandalorian and used to have the dark saber.  Surely she could be worked into the story.  She'd be in her mid 40s, I think.  Emily Blunt should play her, she should be whitewashed especially if she's still in shape like in that Tom Cruise Groundhog Day alien war movie.

Sabine is clearly Asian/part Asian-looking in Rebels.

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This is her voice actress:

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/and Blunt is only 37


I'm pretty sure Sabine Wren is Mandalorian and not Asian.  I doubt if she's ever even heard of Asia, being in a galaxy that's far, far away and such a long time ago.  Similarly, Lando is not African American, since neither Africa nor America exists for him.  He's just a black guy who had a good scam going on Bespin and farked it up.

Actors often portray people that they aren't, of ages that they aren't.  I'm sure Emily Blunt is more than capable of playing a character that's 3-6 years older than she really is.  Golly, I bet she'll have to be in the makeup chair for hours to portray somebody so much older.
 
2020-11-27 3:34:29 PM  
I watched the new Halloween movie yesterday night.  Ashoka seems to have taken lessons from Micheal Meyers.

Pro Tip: If you are a henchman or horny teenager, and its suddenly really quiet, you are about to die from someone materializing right behind you.
 
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