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(Washington Post)   As we celebrate Thanksgiving, 26 million Americans are going hungry, with 12 million more likely to follow by end of year. This worsening human disaster somehow barely registers as news, while Trump's insane conspiracies get nationwide coverage   (washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2020-11-26 7:18:46 PM  
Somehow Trump managed to convince everyone that if the stock market is doing well, that means we aren't still in an economic crisis.
 
2020-11-26 7:21:30 PM  

Emposter: Somehow Trump managed to convince everyone that if the stock market is doing well, that means we aren't still in an economic crisis.


As much as I'd love to lay that mentality solely at the feet of Donald Trump...that's just not true.  You can spread that around all over the place.  Mostly on the right, but I'll admit that some of it has even splattered on to me.
 
2020-11-26 7:41:01 PM  
Trump was a disaster. Who saw this coming? Oh, most of us, except those stigginit to the libs. Who knew we needed some liberalism. Try socalism, it works for Canada. I don't pay shiat for medical, I worry about nothing. America is now a total mess because freedumb.
 
2020-11-26 7:45:49 PM  
It's not just Trump. His enablers in Congress have just as much blood on their hands.
 
2020-11-26 7:46:09 PM  
Don't worry, I'm sure we'll call the coming homeless camps "Bidenvilles"

/And Fox will push that name like crack.
 
2020-11-26 7:46:32 PM  
The House passed the Heroes Act months ago, I wonder what is holding it up.
 
2020-11-26 7:47:29 PM  

Emposter: Somehow

Trump Reaganmanaged to convince everyone that if the stock market is doing well, that means we aren't still in an economic crisis.

FTFY
 
2020-11-26 7:48:04 PM  

iheartscotch: It's not just Trump. His enablers in Congress have just as much blood on their hands.


Why is there no blame for the states? Bear they no responsibility for the welfare of their citizens?

This assumption that the only solution is federal is nature is how we got into this mess in the first place.
 
2020-11-26 7:48:09 PM  

kudayta: Emposter: Somehow Trump managed to convince everyone that if the stock market is doing well, that means we aren't still in an economic crisis.

As much as I'd love to lay that mentality solely at the feet of Donald Trump...that's just not true.  You can spread that around all over the place.  Mostly on the right, but I'll admit that some of it has even splattered on to me.


Yeah, Trump didn't do this. This shiat's been around for a while, and it's long past time that Americans develop some class consciousness.
 
2020-11-26 7:48:41 PM  
Honestly, so many of my Countrymen are obese; going hungry a bit might actually be a good thing.
 
2020-11-26 7:49:37 PM  
Millions of starving Americans doesn't bring in the ratings and money like Trump does.
 
2020-11-26 7:53:08 PM  

Shaggy_C: iheartscotch: It's not just Trump. His enablers in Congress have just as much blood on their hands.

Why is there no blame for the states? Bear they no responsibility for the welfare of their citizens?

This assumption that the only solution is federal is nature is how we got into this mess in the first place.


Obviously, the states bear some responsibility... but masks, precautions and testing didn't need to be political issues.
 
2020-11-26 7:54:03 PM  
Hey Subby,
A few likeminded assholes control the nationwide coverage and the self proclaimed job creators don't want to see poor, hungry people, they want hope about more tax cuts.

Media cross ownership as permitted by the 1996 Telecommunications act is a problem.
 
2020-11-26 7:54:24 PM  
That vile piece of shiat Mitch McConnell absolutely refuses to help out the common American. He will not even vote on another stimulus check unless the bill gives businesses 100% immunity from Covid. In the last month 8 million people have been pushed into poverty and Republicans don't give a shiat.

The Republican party needs to be destroyed. They are not working for the people, they are not governing for the country, they actively fight tooth and nail against democracy and should be put in jail for it.
 
2020-11-26 7:54:34 PM  
Oh subby, dont worry its about to get much worse.

December 11 : government shuts down
December 26 : 12 million lose unemployment benefits
December 31 : end of eviction moratorium, sending 30+ million people into the streets (or close  to it)
 
2020-11-26 7:55:45 PM  

Shaggy_C: iheartscotch: It's not just Trump. His enablers in Congress have just as much blood on their hands.

Why is there no blame for the states? Bear they no responsibility for the welfare of their citizens?

This assumption that the only solution is federal is nature is how we got into this mess in the first place.


Did you mean to post this in another thread? I don't see anyone making such an assumption; not just in this thread, but in general. Who says "the feds are responsible for everything and the states have no responsibilities"? On Fark we see tons of criticism of state and local leaders. There's even a thread live right now about a shiathead mayor setting a lousy example.
 
2020-11-26 7:56:28 PM  

Emposter: Somehow Trump managed to convince everyone that if the stock market is doing well, that means we aren't still in an economic crisis.


Everyone?

Ok, I'll admit, there's maybe one old dude in the family that's still going on about how the economy is booming.  But even the other conservatives I share blood with just see good stonks as an investment opportunity if you read the tea leaves right, not a true indicator of the economy.
 
2020-11-26 7:57:36 PM  
I don't remember any GOP Senator candidates, among many other races, saying anyone was hungry, and it was a very long political campaign with enough time to discuss anything under the sun.  They were more concerned about witchcraft and communists, although it was hard to discern which was more powerful.  The local media did a fine job, never failing to mention Black Lives Matter could be a conspiracy.
 
2020-11-26 7:57:54 PM  
Corporate media, which is nearly all we have, is committed to the suggestion that our system absolutely works. There are no endemic or systemic problems. They are build to discussing the Dow; otherwise, they'd have to do the work of discussing inequality, nutrition, declining health and life expectancy, declining opportunity, and they simply are not going to do this.
 
2020-11-26 7:58:43 PM  

lolmao500: Oh subby, dont worry its about to get much worse.

December 11 : government shuts down
December 26 : 12 million lose unemployment benefits
December 31 : end of eviction moratorium, sending 30+ million people into the streets (or close  to it)


So Trumpville or Trumpboro? What should we call the homeless camps?
 
2020-11-26 8:00:41 PM  
Give to your local food bank then. Next time you go grocery shopping throw an extra 20 bucks worth of stuff in your cart and drop it off for the needy

Beats arguing on the internet
 
2020-11-26 8:00:46 PM  
A good EcOnOmY isn't about you. In fact, your well-being is antithetical to tHe EcOnOmY, since you take money from ThE EcOnOmY.

ThE EcOnOmY is really just a handful of investors who're always on the verge of throwing everything out the window when they realize having no upwards limit of money they can have is physically impossible. It's why the fed can conjure into existence 2 trillion dollars to help relieve economic uncertainty, and we don't see a single cent of that as we're on the verge of having millions of Americans kicked out of their homes for not being able to pay rent. And no politician is ever going to fix that. Not Trump. Not Obama. Not Biden.
 
2020-11-26 8:02:58 PM  
If the rich had gotten more tax cuts, this wouldn't have happened.
 
2020-11-26 8:02:58 PM  
Don't worry, tax breaks for coding classes are on their way
 
2020-11-26 8:03:08 PM  
Jesus, I worry so much about people who don't have anybody. F*ck.
 
2020-11-26 8:05:42 PM  
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I stole this from a brethren farker.
 
2020-11-26 8:06:17 PM  
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2020-11-26 8:07:32 PM  
Yes, but my vote doesn't matter.

(read this as truth or sarcasm)
 
2020-11-26 8:08:03 PM  
"In God We Trust" was just another way is saying "I got mine.  It's your fault if you didn't get yours."
 
2020-11-26 8:08:39 PM  

MattytheMouse: A good EcOnOmY isn't about you. In fact, your well-being is antithetical to tHe EcOnOmY, since you take money from ThE EcOnOmY.

ThE EcOnOmY is really just a handful of investors who're always on the verge of throwing everything out the window when they realize having no upwards limit of money they can have is physically impossible. It's why the fed can conjure into existence 2 trillion dollars to help relieve economic uncertainty, and we don't see a single cent of that as we're on the verge of having millions of Americans kicked out of their homes for not being able to pay rent. And no politician is ever going to fix that. Not Trump. Not Obama. Not Biden.


But....we must sacrifice the elderly to make magic line go up!
 
2020-11-26 8:09:40 PM  

nyseattitude: That vile piece of shiat Mitch McConnell absolutely refuses to help out the common American. He will not even vote on another stimulus check unless the bill gives businesses 100% immunity from Covid. In the last month 8 million people have been pushed into poverty and Republicans don't give a shiat.

The Republican party needs to be destroyed. They are not working for the people, they are not governing for the country, they actively fight tooth and nail against democracy and should be put in jail for it.


Its all controlled by big business. They write the law to suit them, and buy off politicians. The people have no choice or influence. This has to change. Take money out of politics. Until then, we all get better bend over and get farked.
 
2020-11-26 8:09:50 PM  

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This.
 
2020-11-26 8:11:12 PM  
Hollywood is doing more for the hunger crisis than the President and Senate.  Let that sink in.
 
2020-11-26 8:11:17 PM  
Some simple math puts that at over 11% of US population going hungry. At what point do enough people reach the end of their rope and decide they aren't gonna take it anymore? One way or another change is coming to the USA. I hope the change is positive.
 
2020-11-26 8:12:05 PM  

Emposter: Somehow Trump managed to convince everyone that if the stock market is doing well, that means we aren't still in an economic crisis.


I don't even understand how people can be duped by market performance.
I've been investing for the past 15 years. I throw money in periodically and watch my accounts grow. It's a nice feeling, but at no time do I sit there and think "Well, the market is doing well, and I'm doing well, so everyone must be doing well".
A majority of Americans aren't even invested. Plus, the money I have invested is worthless until I sell and plunk the cash in my bank account.
Market performance is not the sole indicator of economic health, and we have to break that mentality.
 
2020-11-26 8:12:21 PM  

freakdiablo: Emposter: Somehow Trump managed to convince everyone that if the stock market is doing well, that means we aren't still in an economic crisis.

Everyone?

Ok, I'll admit, there's maybe one old dude in the family that's still going on about how the economy is booming.  But even the other conservatives I share blood with just see good stonks as an investment opportunity if you read the tea leaves right, not a true indicator of the economy.


My stonk portfolio is righteous.
 
2020-11-26 8:15:11 PM  
Then again, you might not want to listen to me on the economy, since my degree in economics came from playing the marketplace in Warcraft and RuneScape.

Speaking of which, I just started playing RuneScape again! Old School RuneScape, to be precise. And I was shocked to learn that party hats are no longer a thing!

For those of you who don't know: party hats were an item that were dropped only a handful of times at the beginning of the game's run and then discontinued, and because of that, they're now worth millions of gold, and thousands of real-world dollars due to their scarcity. A lot of players treat them as them as investments.

Economics is weird, and it's all made up garbage.
 
2020-11-26 8:15:23 PM  
Has anyone tried misspelling things or producing paperwork that has a bunch of sentences running together?

I've been reading how that's a secret plan to get the media to pay attention to your plight when they are ignoring you
 
2020-11-26 8:16:04 PM  
Most Americans who voted for the past forty years voted for more of this, one way or the other.

Can't fix sociopathy.
 
2020-11-26 8:16:41 PM  
And almost half of the voting public is just fine with that.
 
2020-11-26 8:17:05 PM  
Without intervention the people who aren't paying attention will eventually be forced to notice.

It might not happen for a while, but as things get worse the likelihood that we'll be able to "bootstrap" our way out of this while the officials who are supposed to prevent/help fix this don't really do anything gets less and less.
 
2020-11-26 8:18:46 PM  

Alebak: Without intervention the people who aren't paying attention will eventually be forced to notice.

It might not happen for a while, but as things get worse the likelihood that we'll be able to "bootstrap" our way out of this while the officials who are supposed to prevent/help fix this don't really do anything gets less and less.


I'm just gonna say: the wealth disparity in America now is broader than it was back during the French Revolution. =)
 
2020-11-26 8:24:20 PM  
More tax cuts ought to fix that right up.
 
2020-11-26 8:25:20 PM  
I said this in a previous thread and will do so again:

If you need help, or are close to needing it, ASK.

If you don't, those in your life cannot and know you require a helping hand. I've helped a lot of friends and family over the years, but only ever knew who wasn't doing ok because they swallowed their pride and asked. Then if I feel they cannot pay back a loan I make silly bets like "all the money you owe me vs a fancy starbucks coffee that trump loses in 2016" and lose thousands.

But ya gotta ask. People will help. If they don't... Ask the next guy. These are tough times and people will understand you aren't just a lazy bum or whatever they might normally assume. We all know folks are out of work without options. And people will help.
 
2020-11-26 8:27:07 PM  
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We're experiencing late stage capitalism.

enjoy your gains in the equity markets and don't wear a mask, citizen. it's not like most of you aren't a month or two of bad luck away from being in that food line.
 
2020-11-26 8:31:25 PM  

Shaggy_C: Why is there no blame for the states


Trumpy came in he caught Pence red handed
Peeing on the people and the poor.
Picture this he was up on stage muttering that Kamala was a whore.
How could I for get that Trump had made him the COVID chair.
All this time he's been standing there with nothing but a fly in his hair.
Mother, it's me
 
2020-11-26 8:32:05 PM  

Emposter: Somehow Trump managed to convince everyone that if the stock market is doing well, that means we aren't still in an economic crisis.


That's not a Trump thing. The stock market has always been the measure of how the economy is doing, because it's a nice convenient number to point to so that the parts of society that are comfortable enough can ignore all of the problems of those barely able, if not completely unable to make ends meet. The news has always presented it as "If the stock market is doing well, the economy is doing well". 

It's an economy and a way of looking at economy that intentionally serves to keep the rich rich and keep the vast majority enthralled to them just to be able to survive. Yay capitalism.

I wonder what it would be like to have economic systems and laws governing them that measured their success based on the wealth or lack-there-of of those worst off in society (and applied laws accordingly to that), rather than that of those few who have used every trick, loophole, and even broken law they can get away with to pillage the rest of society. 

But basing an economy on how the worst off are doing rather than how the most well off are doing (especially while ignoring just how those who are the most well off became so) would be highly un-American. ;-/
 
2020-11-26 8:37:14 PM  

MattytheMouse: Then again, you might not want to listen to me on the economy, since my degree in economics came from playing the marketplace in Warcraft and RuneScape.

Speaking of which, I just started playing RuneScape again! Old School RuneScape, to be precise. And I was shocked to learn that party hats are no longer a thing!

For those of you who don't know: party hats were an item that were dropped only a handful of times at the beginning of the game's run and then discontinued, and because of that, they're now worth millions of gold, and thousands of real-world dollars due to their scarcity. A lot of players treat them as them as investments.

Economics is weird, and it's all made up garbage.


I never played runescape. I was a tauren druid on magtheridon though.

The thing is, the economy in those games is actually extra interesting; it is almost completely without need.

It shows how values interact in a purely want based environment.

I remember in Aion I was crafting some kind of energy jelly. I was one of the first with the recipe. Unbeknownst to me, some other guy had been selling them close to cost, but was on vacation the couple weeks I got the recipe.

I made bank. He came back, undercut me, and the price went from like 20g (I don't even remember if that was the currency, but that was about 10x the materials cost) to 2.1. then because he was mad I though cooking should be profitable, he sold them below cost for months. He seemed to believe I was obligated to sell at the price he wanted (3g) and that his selling them for 3 instead of 20 wasn't undercutting. But me posting some at 2.9 was.

Economics is not made up, but it's definitely weird.
 
2020-11-26 8:41:40 PM  
So the population of Australia is going hungry in the USoA.  Not good.
 
2020-11-26 8:44:45 PM  

Smackledorfer: MattytheMouse: Then again, you might not want to listen to me on the economy, since my degree in economics came from playing the marketplace in Warcraft and RuneScape.

Speaking of which, I just started playing RuneScape again! Old School RuneScape, to be precise. And I was shocked to learn that party hats are no longer a thing!

For those of you who don't know: party hats were an item that were dropped only a handful of times at the beginning of the game's run and then discontinued, and because of that, they're now worth millions of gold, and thousands of real-world dollars due to their scarcity. A lot of players treat them as them as investments.

Economics is weird, and it's all made up garbage.

I never played runescape. I was a tauren druid on magtheridon though.

The thing is, the economy in those games is actually extra interesting; it is almost completely without need.

It shows how values interact in a purely want based environment.

I remember in Aion I was crafting some kind of energy jelly. I was one of the first with the recipe. Unbeknownst to me, some other guy had been selling them close to cost, but was on vacation the couple weeks I got the recipe.

I made bank. He came back, undercut me, and the price went from like 20g (I don't even remember if that was the currency, but that was about 10x the materials cost) to 2.1. then because he was mad I though cooking should be profitable, he sold them below cost for months. He seemed to believe I was obligated to sell at the price he wanted (3g) and that his selling them for 3 instead of 20 wasn't undercutting. But me posting some at 2.9 was.

Economics is not made up, but it's definitely weird.


When I said economics is made up garbage, I was being a little overly dramatic.

But yeah, economics is weird.

I think my best story was how I accidentally got the reins of poseidus before Blizzard nerfed its spawn rate, so I put it up on the auction house with a starting bid of 1 copper and then told trade chat, just so I could spend the next twelve hours watching the bidding war.
 
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